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Offline lionelandjen

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Re: Vera Native Integration for Google Home
« Reply #90 on: January 28, 2019, 09:51:44 am »
I'm starting to get a little discouraged by the delay and lack of communication.

Folks in this group would be thrilled to offer their services for a beta test.  we all understand what beta means!

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Re: Vera Native Integration for Google Home
« Reply #91 on: January 28, 2019, 09:55:39 am »
I'm starting to get a little discouraged by the delay and lack of communication.

Folks in this group would be thrilled to offer their services for a beta test.  we all understand what beta means!

Me too.
I will start to consider to change my ZWave controller brand :(

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Re: Vera Native Integration for Google Home
« Reply #92 on: January 28, 2019, 09:57:01 am »
Same here .. Maybe what other controllers could be considered?  Fibaro ? They have Google integration?

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Re: Vera Native Integration for Google Home
« Reply #93 on: January 28, 2019, 08:10:44 pm »
Me too.
I will start to consider to change my ZWave controller brand :(

Every time I time I think along the same line, I start doing some research and then conclude that I should stick with what I have.  Things seem to point to Smartthings, but then I read some of the reviews and am put off.  I am starting to get a bit flustered (I also feel that there haven't been that many improvements overall to my Vera). 

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Re: Vera Native Integration for Google Home
« Reply #94 on: January 28, 2019, 09:37:59 pm »

Every time I time I think along the same line, I start doing some research and then conclude that I should stick with what I have.  Things seem to point to Smartthings, but then I read some of the reviews and am put off.  I am starting to get a bit flustered (I also feel that there haven't been that many improvements overall to my Vera).

Smartthings seems to be what my research points to giving a try to next as well.  The big thing with them are the troubles related to their cloud service; but I think that's going to be an issue with any cloud service.  I have decided though if Vera abandons local processing and goes cloud based (as their new devices at CES seem to be pointing towards), I'll be giving Smartthings a try.  With the resources Samsung has and the experience Smartthings already has at doing this in the cloud and yet their still having problems, I'd hate to see the sh*t show the first cloud based Vera will be.  I was hopeful when the new ownership took over, but instead of seeing IFTTT and Google Home finally launch (since both were "nearly done" months ago) I'm no longer seeing any forward progress at all.  All of their products to date being concepts instead of in production, actually purchasable and useable products; which doesn't give me any more confidence.

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Re: Vera Native Integration for Google Home
« Reply #95 on: February 07, 2019, 08:29:26 pm »
I switched to Smartthings and couldn't be happier with my Google Home integration. I have had no issues at all.

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Re: Vera Native Integration for Google Home
« Reply #96 on: February 25, 2019, 02:03:32 am »
OMG!!  Any news here. This is horrible. The whole world is on Google. Except Vera.


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Re: Vera Native Integration for Google Home
« Reply #97 on: February 25, 2019, 02:37:09 am »
OMG!!  Any news here. This is horrible. The whole world is on Google. Except Vera.


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Re: Vera Native Integration for Google Home
« Reply #98 on: February 25, 2019, 08:12:11 am »
Just purchased Smartthings. Done with it.


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Re: Vera Native Integration for Google Home
« Reply #99 on: February 25, 2019, 09:33:13 am »
OMG!!  Any news here. This is horrible. The whole world is on Google. Except Vera.


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Not any good news.  I asked in the 7.29 Core Firmware Release thread if Google integration was coming before UI8 and received no response.  I take that to mean it won't come until UI8, whenever they actually release that.  Or, considering Vera's track record, possibly never.

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Re: Vera Native Integration for Google Home
« Reply #100 on: February 25, 2019, 01:07:14 pm »

Every time I time I think along the same line, I start doing some research and then conclude that I should stick with what I have.  Things seem to point to Smartthings, but then I read some of the reviews and am put off.  I am starting to get a bit flustered (I also feel that there haven't been that many improvements overall to my Vera).

Smartthings seems to be what my research points to giving a try to next as well.  The big thing with them are the troubles related to their cloud service; but I think that's going to be an issue with any cloud service.  I have decided though if Vera abandons local processing and goes cloud based (as their new devices at CES seem to be pointing towards), I'll be giving Smartthings a try.  With the resources Samsung has and the experience Smartthings already has at doing this in the cloud and yet their still having problems, I'd hate to see the sh*t show the first cloud based Vera will be.  I was hopeful when the new ownership took over, but instead of seeing IFTTT and Google Home finally launch (since both were "nearly done" months ago) I'm no longer seeing any forward progress at all.  All of their products to date being concepts instead of in production, actually purchasable and useable products; which doesn't give me any more confidence.

Based on my experience over the past year or so, anything cloud is inherently fragile. Companies and servers go out of business or get taken over. You don't know whether the service will stay up, get obsoleted or if they will force you to upgrade devices, charge you for services and what happens to your data. I have been actively getting rid of any device which is unnecessarily relying on the cloud. The native integration to google home or echo you are asking for would be a cloud to cloud service just like IFTT which are both complete nonsense if you have a local alternativ. The fact that Google home is forcing a cloud to cloud only control for the hue basically eliminated google devices from my home. My nest protect is next on the list of items to get rid of. The downside of cloud reliance are pretty well known as SmartThing users have experienced: Latency, reliability, privacy, security and long term sustainability. It is why a group of ST hardcore users ended up founding hubitat which is a local based ST. There are and will always be functionalities which will be in the cloud because they make sense. Home device control, monitoring and automation is not one of them. I understand many of you have not looked much into this and just got sold on google home and just want it to work. Just be sure you know what you are getting into with it.

Cloud makes sense only if the
1. The processing power and time required for what you want to do exceeds the power and time it takes to send the data out, get it processed and get the result back.
2. The source of the data is outside the house to begin with and therefore you would need to rely on an external connection anyway.
In any other case, we are just adding unnecessary liability and failure points to the system.
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Re: Vera Native Integration for Google Home
« Reply #101 on: February 25, 2019, 07:51:15 pm »
OMG!!  Any news here. This is horrible. The whole world is on Google. Except Vera.


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Not on Google here, so not the whole world.
Vera 3, 1.7.1040, CT101, Everspring Motion, GE/Jasco Switch/Dimmer, Leviton outlet, AeonLabs sensor, NuTone garage door, Blue Iris, Sricam SP011, iPhone locator, APCUPSD, VeraMate, VeraAlerts, PLEG, House Modes, Countdown Timer, DVR, Virtual/Multi Switch, LB60Z-1 bulb, Hue, Alexa, Zooz 4-1

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Re: Vera Native Integration for Google Home
« Reply #102 on: March 03, 2019, 07:41:20 am »
Soo .. Smartthings isn't supported yet in the Netherland .. So no luck there :( :(

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Re: Vera Native Integration for Google Home
« Reply #103 on: March 04, 2019, 07:09:32 am »
Hi,

Melith indicated that Google integration would be in the upcoming release.

Cheers Rene
2xVeraLite, VeraEdge, openLuup, ALTUI, 20 switches, 10 dimmers, 20 sensors, 10 scene controllers, 1 Harmony Hub, many plug-ins. Not enough time.

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Re: Vera Native Integration for Google Home
« Reply #104 on: March 05, 2019, 02:39:46 am »
Hi,

Melith indicated that Google integration would be in the upcoming release.

Cheers Rene


Is there an (rough) ETA for that release?
Havent seen any batas yet? Or am i wrong?


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