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Offline christianhau

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Using INSTEON LED Bulb 8 Watt with Vera Lite
« on: June 25, 2012, 07:28:59 am »
Have anyone tried if the new remote controlled light bulb from Insteon can be controlled through Vera?

http://www.insteon.net/bulb.html

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Re: Using INSTEON LED Bulb 8 Watt with Vera Lite
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2012, 10:07:04 am »
Considering this is a new product and availability is limited. It might be a while before anyone will report their findings.

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Re: Using INSTEON LED Bulb 8 Watt with Vera Lite
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2012, 11:45:34 am »
Hi,
I have a similar device from Elix but with basic remote control, I guess RFX. See image attached.
The RFXpluggin in auto-discovery didn't detect it (tested with and old version of the pluggin).

By the way, is there any recognized RGB light device on Vera ? It should be cool :)

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Re: Using INSTEON LED Bulb 8 Watt with Vera Lite
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2012, 12:36:43 pm »
What the Inteon Light bulb does not tell you is that you need an insteon controller to control it. The marketing makes it sound like there is no need for a controller. I am not sure how the basic Vera insteon support would work with this, but if the bulb shows itself as a device that has been around e.g. light switch of some sort, it could work. It would be interesting to see how altsteon would handle it.

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Re: Using INSTEON LED Bulb 8 Watt with Vera Lite
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2012, 12:54:04 pm »
What the Inteon Light bulb does not tell you is that you need an insteon controller to control it.
Exactly.  It's why I'm waiting for the next round of WiFi and/or [raw]802.15.4 bulbs, with an open (and free, and no NDA) protocol. 

ie. Something we'll be able to get from multiple vendors, something you want when you bust a bulb...

It's interesting to see that, given all the fan-fare last yr, none of the other vendors have actually released product yet (Google's HA Partner, NXP's GreenChip etc, etc)
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Re: Using INSTEON LED Bulb 8 Watt with Vera Lite
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2012, 01:09:10 pm »
I am hoping to see @Home take off again at this coming Google IO. Not sure what happened with the project and why no new information has turned up about it. I guess time will tell.

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Re: Using INSTEON LED Bulb 8 Watt with Vera Lite
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2012, 02:10:19 pm »
I just pulled the data sheet for the new bulb to see what the command set looks like.   The bulb is an I2CS device.  (Device version will show up as 2.)  I am not sure if the Vera supports these devices or not.   If it does, then I would expect that the bulb should show up as a dimmer switch based on the DevCat that it reports.

Altsteon should be able to drive the basic functionality in these bulbs with no problem.   However, there are some new commands to allow control of certain features and the ramp rate table has changed.   I don't believe setting the ramp rate works in either Altsteon or the Vera, so that shouldn't be a big problem.  So, the only issue I can see is if the new features that are exposed are required in some way.  (Which I doubt.)


I too have been wondering what happened to Google's @Home stuff.   Seems like there was lots of fanfare, and then complete silence.   I'll see if I can track anyone down at I/O and find out what is up.   If you have specific questions, feel free to PM me and I'll see if I can get answers for you.
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Re: Using INSTEON LED Bulb 8 Watt with Vera Lite
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2012, 02:40:17 pm »
Thanks for the responses! Been waiting to see if anything came from the @home camp as well since buying a Fibaro controller for every lamp in the house just seems too expensive.. Looking forward to seeing how this progresses, but I might just order one of them and see how it goes :)

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Re: Using INSTEON LED Bulb 8 Watt with Vera Lite
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2012, 08:57:35 pm »
alternatively, wait for Z-Wave LED Bulbs.. looks like they may be coming out soon..

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Re: Using INSTEON LED Bulb 8 Watt with Vera Lite
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2012, 09:42:00 pm »
Unfortunately, I don't have much to report about @Home after Google IO.   The line to get in was really long, and I needed to attend a different session for my job.   What I can say, is that it appears to be alive and well.  I heard from some of the other attendees that a new hardware kit was given out at the session that contained a nice array of sensors on it.

Who knows though.. Maybe the Nexus Q is a result of @Home.  Or maybe an initial step in that direction.  (It is a neat little device at any rate.)
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Re: Using INSTEON LED Bulb 8 Watt with Vera Lite
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2012, 09:39:51 am »
Have anyone tried if the new remote controlled light bulb from Insteon can be controlled through Vera?

http://www.insteon.net/bulb.html

Got a couple of them for myself and it took some time to add them to my Vera Lite. I still don't have Altsteon installed and they worked fine even without a linked switch/dimmer.

My system is a little slow tough... will check whether the lamps have something to do with that.

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Re: Using INSTEON LED Bulb 8 Watt with Vera Lite
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2013, 08:20:42 am »
Hi, I bought one of these devices and it works great without issue using Veralite without Altsteon.

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Re: Using INSTEON LED Bulb 8 Watt with Vera Lite
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2014, 02:12:35 am »
Hi, I bought one of these devices and it works great without issue using Veralite without Altsteon.

How did you get it to work if you don't mind me asking?
I have a Vera Lite and bought an Insteon 8Watt LED bulb to play with and I'm having trouble.
I entered the device code and hit add and nothing really happens. Any help but be appreciated !



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Re: Using INSTEON LED Bulb 8 Watt with Vera Lite
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2014, 10:12:12 am »
Hi, I bought one of these devices and it works great without issue using Veralite without Altsteon.

Are they capable of voltage sensing for switched operation?  I am trying to figure out a reason to buy one, but if it cannot be turned on with the lamp's switch then it isn't much use for me.

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Re: Using INSTEON LED Bulb 8 Watt with Vera Lite
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2014, 10:13:01 pm »
I was looking into buying some of these bulbs , would these work with Vera lite out of the box or do I need to pay 79.99 for the insteon modem? or would they even work if I connected a insteon modem to the Vera ? ??? I was thinking of going with these or hue which ever is easiest to work with my Vera lite. thanks for any help .