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Offline kveibell

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GE switch vs. Evolve
« on: October 04, 2012, 07:36:23 pm »
Which lighting switch do you prefer and why? GE switch or evolve. I will be using this for both single and three way applications.

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Re: GE switch vs. Evolve
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2012, 11:54:56 am »
I like the GE/Jasco because they are inexpensive and pretty reliable. 
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Re: GE switch vs. Evolve
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2012, 06:00:29 pm »
+1 for GE: good range and usually cheaper.

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Re: GE switch vs. Evolve
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2012, 06:48:38 pm »
+1 for GE - I have some Intermatic ones as I got a deal on 6 for $100 but the GE ones are far quieter and need less pressure if using the switch itself. Also the GE units are all compatible with the secure protocol used for eg locks.

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Re: GE switch vs. Evolve
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2012, 01:35:37 pm »
I have all Evolve switches.
Good quality and 0 issues. They come with a neutral connection which was necessary for me since I have all LEDs. They also support beaming which is important if you want them to repeat encrypted signals for your locks.
If I browse through the board there seem to be some people having issues with the GEs (breaking within a year).

+1 on Evolve....

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Re: GE switch vs. Evolve
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2012, 09:16:38 pm »
If I understood the guys at Automated Outlet today, they were saying that if you are planning on adding a Kwikset Z-wave lock the Evolve switches/dimmers might be a better option than the Intermatics since the Evolve units will do the security beaming that the locks require. I'm not sure if the GE equipment supports the security beaming or not... or if you would even consider adding on the locks at some point, but I figured it was worth mentioning.

I have mostly Intermatic equipment for all my switches and outlets, but I have bought a few Evolve lamp dimmers since I can get them for roughly the same price as the GE lamp dimmers at Automated Outlet.

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Re: GE switch vs. Evolve
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2012, 09:31:55 pm »
At first I had some complaints about the evolve in particular with that neutral wire on the dimmers.  But it is starting to appear that the Evolve are slightly better.

The GE's are having tendency to fall off the network and 3 have already failed.

All the evolves stay on the network and no a single failure.

Just my 2 cents :)

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Re: GE switch vs. Evolve
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2012, 02:29:34 am »
[...] I'm not sure if the GE equipment supports the security beaming or not... [...]

they do.

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Re: GE switch vs. Evolve
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2012, 10:14:40 am »
I have installed some GE switches and dimmers and are very good..
but leviton I have problems...are difficulty to install with vera3 and no have clear instructions for that and vera3.
and are very expensive.

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Re: GE switch vs. Evolve
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2012, 10:49:41 am »
[...] I'm not sure if the GE equipment supports the security beaming or not... [...]

they do.

Do they really?
I heard they have to have a certain type of firmware installed and that older stock might not have the beaming feature enabled???
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Re: GE switch vs. Evolve
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2012, 11:06:20 am »
kinda off topic, but does the LEd constantly light up on the evolve switches and if so, what color?

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Re: GE switch vs. Evolve
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2012, 11:22:12 am »
kinda off topic, but does the LEd constantly light up on the evolve switches and if so, what color?

The LED light up when the switch is off.
Color is green. The LED is not too bright which is a good thing....
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Re: GE switch vs. Evolve
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2012, 01:59:44 am »
Argh!  Just had a complaint about her baby spots not coming on.  Sure enuff another GE has bought it.  Can't even use the switch and vera thinks its on (and cannot shut it off.)

Also she complained about 3 other lights that were not responding to vera, again GE's all had fallen off the network.  However a heal did cure this but with some interesting results.

Of the 3 lights that "dropped off" 2 of them only came back with 2 stars.  1 in particular has lots of neighbors and is no more than 20 feet from the controller - this is getting interesting.

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Re: GE switch vs. Evolve
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2012, 07:32:43 am »
[...] I'm not sure if the GE equipment supports the security beaming or not... [...]
they do.
Do they really?
I heard they have to have a certain type of firmware installed and that older stock might not have the beaming feature enabled???
They do; but it does depend on the (firmware) version. It's my impression they were one of the firsts to have this when devices that require beaming came out. The GE's that were sold by Radio Shack seem to have been manufactured in late 2009 and support beaming. (There's some threads, and the Schlage wiki page, on the GE version numbers;  I believe key is that the version has a letter suffix, like 2.0a.)
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Re: GE switch vs. Evolve
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2012, 02:34:53 pm »
At first I had some complaints about the evolve in particular with that neutral wire on the dimmers.  But it is starting to appear that the Evolve are slightly better.

The GE's are having tendency to fall off the network and 3 have already failed.

All the evolves stay on the network and no a single failure.

Just my 2 cents :)

I have about a dozen or so GE dimmers and on/off switches, including several 3-way, and going on 2 years without a single problem.

And they definitely support secure beaming.  At least the new style (terminals rather than pigtail leads) do.  And I wouldn't buy old stock because the pigtail leads make it hard to fit into a standard box.