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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2012, 06:11:21 pm »
I wonder if this Duwi is also available in the US for 120V

I am not familiar with all the USA Z-wave stores? But the few I have seen only seem to have rather expensive $200 - $250 modules for controlling blinds like these here.

Can you get the Aeon Labs Micro Smart Motor Controller in the US ?

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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2012, 06:22:52 pm »
Wow the postage is a killer for one 8 foot unit they want $128 for International Fedex to the UK. Seems very expensive!

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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2012, 09:51:07 pm »
Wow the postage is a killer for one 8 foot unit they want $128 for International Fedex to the UK. Seems very expensive!

Next time Im in Germany I can bring one for you  :D :D
Yeah I saw the z-wave controllers available here in the US... I would not pay that much for it....
Still looking....
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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2012, 10:00:14 pm »
Btw,
I would be careful with this Aeon Labs Company....
Check out the board here, lot of people have issues with this device!
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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2012, 03:55:04 am »
I've not used that Aeon Labs motor control module before. I have used other Aeon Labs products with no problems though.

This is a link to what Z-wave blind modules are available from our Euro distributor. I have asked them if they have any USA versions ? I doubt it but its worth asking as I could drop ship one to you.

EDIT: EU only  >:(



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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2012, 10:25:34 am »
Thanks for checking :)
Anyways, let me know if you get one of the tracks.
For me, spending $$$ on the Z-Wave interface alone is too much.... unfortunately....
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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2012, 10:31:11 am »
Look at this one.... Maybe we can "built" one :) They also have a EU version....
http://www.whwharton.cn/product/618372795-213085870/NWD_z_wave_smart_home_US_Curtain_motor.html
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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2012, 10:50:35 am »
Look at this one.... Maybe we can "built" one :) They also have a EU version....
http://www.whwharton.cn/product/618372795-213085870/NWD_z_wave_smart_home_US_Curtain_motor.html

Yeah I stumbled across that same website this morning and saw those Z-wave NWD curtain motors. Seems odd they just have a motor and not the rest of the kit. What would you connect it to? If you bought one. Maybe there are other curtain kits out there that I have not seen yet.

I might wait and do more research, if the postage wasn't so high I might have gone for one of those CL-820 curtain rails to check it out.

Those "HC China Limited" HT-100 ones still might be an option? I emailed them as well for more information but have had no reply yet.

EDIT: I just emailed NWD to ask the question if there are compatible curtain rails for their Z-wave curtain motors ?
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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2012, 10:58:41 am »
I am going to shoot them an email to see how to actually connect them!
I will let you know!  ;D
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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2012, 11:28:06 am »
On this first link it shows a very similar looking motor:

http://www.tradevv.com/chinasuppliers/dooya32_p_1ddae0/china-Curtain-Motor.html

Motor models: DT52E & DT52S

Looking at their other products on tradevv.com lead me to this website: Dooya

http://www.dooya.com/products_3.html

So maybe Dooya makes the standard motors and curtain rail kits etc and NWD have just added Z-wave to one of the motors?

Trying to track stuff down like this is a nightmare. I only found the first link via a Google image search for "electric curtain motor" and looked at the pictures until I saw one the same as the NWD motor.

Here is a better link in English:

http://en.dooya.com/products_3.html
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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2012, 11:38:32 am »
Think I have found one of the Dooya curtain kits for sale on Aliexpress here and here on Tradekey

If you can get that curtain rail and the NWD z-wave motor and the price is right? That's another solution right there! Assuming the Z-wave motor shows up in Vera OK?


Google images for "Dooya curtain"
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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2012, 12:30:24 pm »
Thanks for all the links!!

I think I might order the motor and then the track from here to give it a try!  http://en.dooya.com/products_3.html

Fingers crossed  :)
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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2012, 03:18:25 pm »
Thanks for all the links!!

I think I might order the motor and then the track from here to give it a try!  http://en.dooya.com/products_3.html

Fingers crossed  :)

If you manage to get pricing / shipping costs for the NWD / Dooya kit? please let me know. It could work out cheaper for you as those USA z-wave blind controllers are well expensive compared to the ones we can get in Europe!

EDIT: I've emailed the Dooya trade sales, will let you know if I hear anything.
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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2012, 05:42:52 am »
I've had a reply from Dooya and lots of product information sent to me (No prices) which I have not read as yet. However they did not answer my question about using the NWD Z-wave motor with the Dooya curtain track ?

Even if you were able to replace the motor with the NWD Z-wave one you would then lose the ability to use the Dooya Zig-bee wall controller and hand held remote control and you would only be able to control the curtain motor via Z-wave and Vera.

"From your inquiry mail., Z-wave is old network protocol, and we are using Zig-bee network protocol which is new protocol. It is more powerful than old one. I am sure you know this ^^  I don't think Z-wave and Zig-bee system are compatible, because they are different protocol.
 
For the curtain motor, attached is our curtain motor introduction. You may take for reference. Pls kindly let us know if you are interested in AC or DC motors. I think you can tell us more of your requirement."


I have several motor product documents to look through that they sent to me.

So they are using Zig-bee in their standard motors and remote controllers etc. Ideally we would want a curtain motor with both Z-wave and Zig-Bee so you could use the Dooya remote / wall controllers and also control it via the Vera Home Automation box.

Attached is the first image out of several:
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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2012, 06:29:48 am »
Although thinking about it, if the Z-wave motor was compatible and worked with the Dooya track and also with Vera you would not even need the Dooya remote control and wall controller. You could replace them with an Aeon Labs Mini Mote and pretty much any Z-wave wall switch (using association group) to control the curtains. Or even a Z-wave wall scene controller like the Duwi one.

So that leaves three questions.

1. Is the NWD Z-wave motor compatible with the Dooya curtain track?
2. Can you buy the Dooya curtain track on its own? Without their Zig-bee motor and remote / wall controller.
3. What is the price?
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