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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #60 on: October 25, 2012, 04:23:43 am »
If it is not possible to purchase the NWD Z-wave motor?

I am wondering if the Dooya DT52E (Zig-bee) motor could be used with the Duwi blind module ?

The first image below shows Dry Contact wiring, could these be wired in to a Z-wave blind control module ?
The second image is the Z-wave duwi module wiring for 230v motors.

In this setup you would have the Dooya RF (Zig-bee) hand held remote control and possibly the Dooya wall controller as well. And then hard wire a Z-wave blind module in to the wall and connect to the DT52E motors dry contact for Home Automation control via Vera.

Any thoughts ?

EDIT: Duwi-Module-Wiring.jpg is from the Duwi user manual i.e. not the Z-wave.me version.
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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #61 on: October 25, 2012, 04:38:02 am »
Trying to consolidate some of this information, I have added a table .doc to the first post here.
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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #62 on: October 25, 2012, 06:58:46 am »
I am currently talking to technical at HC China Limited, hopefully they are working out a HT-100 system / solution for me.

My requirements are:

230V Curtain Motor - Can be hard wired in to the wall / house electrics. (I don't like the idea of having to plug-in a DC power adapter with cables visible.)

Hand held Remote Control - IR (Infra-Red) preferred, so I can program my Logitech Harmony universal remote controls to open / close curtains.

3rd Party Home Automation Control - Need to be able to wire in the Z-wave blind control module. I will then be able to automate the curtains using VeraLite.

Single curtain track / Center opening curtains / Motor on the left / Wall mount brakets


Optional:

Wall Controller - I may not need a wall controller from them. Because if we can integrate the Z-wave module I can use my existing Z-wave wall controllers to open / close the curtains.

Note: Although there is a HT-100 wall controller with in-built IR. If I use this I will not put a paddle switch cover on the Duwi blind module and would instead hide the Duwi blind module in a back-box inside the wall.

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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #63 on: October 25, 2012, 12:02:40 pm »
Sent NWD a second inquiry directly via email.
If I don't get a response again - I will scratch that company... :-X
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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #64 on: October 25, 2012, 12:12:45 pm »
Sent NWD a second inquiry directly via email.
If I don't get a response again - I will scratch that company... :-X

Yeah I get that feeling as well, which is why I am looking at other options again and using a Z-wave blind module.

I think I might settle on the HC China LTD company & HT-100 system. They mainly offer 12V DC motors but they have got a 230V AC motor which I would prefer. It will cost more $ but it will be quieter and I can hide the wires better in the wall.

They have some decent looking IR receivers / wall controllers and remote controls as well. They also have RF remotes. I can buy them locally in the UK, should be fairly easy to wire in the Duwi module. Their guys can speak English and I understand what they are saying and their 2M track
(DC Motor) is only 105 GBP
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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #65 on: October 29, 2012, 10:31:33 am »
Got this email back from NWD abfter 4 days, I think Im gonna pass :)

Hello,

 

I AM  Q Li ,

 

Ok  you want a NZ-C01  US  for test.

yes , we also have track that fits this motor .

 

BUT now  we only have 220V for China ,if you want to use in USA,You should be a transformer , to  110V.

 

I will send  products to you By UPS ,and To pay the freight

 

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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #66 on: November 19, 2012, 09:03:11 am »
Hello folks in this topic !

some solution for integration of www.remotecontrolcurtain.com ?

I have one running and I'm trying to put zwave control in that.

I was speaking about with Shady, but he is out for a time...

my doubt is if the only solution is install 2 evolve lfm-20 controllers ( one for up and one for down) (is a roller shade)
or if exist one controller with the 2 functions...


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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #67 on: November 20, 2012, 09:31:40 am »
Hello folks in this topic !

some solution for integration of www.remotecontrolcurtain.com ?

I have one running and I'm trying to put zwave control in that.

I was speaking about with Shady, but he is out for a time...

my doubt is if the only solution is install 2 evolve lfm-20 controllers ( one for up and one for down) (is a roller shade)
or if exist one controller with the 2 functions...


thanks !

I am not familiar with the Evolve LFM-20 as I am based in the UK, however it looks to be a simple ON/OFF relay switch. I would think you would need two of them. You might be better using a proper Z-wave blind controller like these ESI ABMHZ modules:

http://www.smarthome-products.com/c-64-motorized-blinds-and-drapery.aspx

Have you tried contacting CurtainCall for help?

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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #68 on: November 20, 2012, 02:45:12 pm »
thanks Cw-kid !

I emailed to Tony in curtaincall. he sold for me the curtain...

back to the subject of evolve...it has a yellow wire... this yellow wire is not the common wire I need to runs the curtain...
I plug the common in yellow and up and down in each blue wire.

if this is not correct, what the function of the yellow wire in lfm-20 ?

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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #69 on: November 20, 2012, 03:13:22 pm »
thanks Cw-kid !

I emailed to Tony in curtaincall. he sold for me the curtain...

back to the subject of evolve...it has a yellow wire... this yellow wire is not the common wire I need to runs the curtain...
I plug the common in yellow and up and down in each blue wire.

if this is not correct, what the function of the yellow wire in lfm-20 ?

thanks !

I dont think the yellow wire has any function.
The blue wires are used for the relay imo. I think it should state that in the directions it came with.
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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #70 on: November 20, 2012, 03:35:22 pm »
The user manual for the Evolve LFM-20 can be seen here
The wiring diagram is not that clear.

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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #71 on: November 20, 2012, 03:51:51 pm »
I think the yellow can send a command to a switch and turn on something.
would be very good if there was a dry contact with a common wire. giving 2 options only changing the contact for a side and another with zwave enable for sure... :)
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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #72 on: November 23, 2012, 11:26:15 am »
The yellow wire Is for adding auxiliary switches, for 3-way and 4-way control.  Like in a hallway you can have a switch on either end controlling the same light, same concept but accomplished with a low voltage trigger on the yellow wire.

I think these are the aux switches:
http://www.smarthome-products.com/p-170-homepro-as101-z-wave-3-way-companion-switch.aspx

Here is a post from someone putting it all together:
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=10201.0
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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #73 on: January 12, 2013, 07:43:36 pm »
Hi CW-Kid,

Cracking job on this (and others). 

Did any one get it up and running? would love to know if any one here in the UK has a working motorised curtain with zwave.

I shall watch with a keen eye  ;D

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Re: Affordable Electric Curtain Tracks - Z-wave integration
« Reply #74 on: January 12, 2013, 07:46:07 pm »
No I never made a purchase in the end I got side tracked with other little projects that took up the cash. Still on my todo list.