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Offline big517

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Re: Pseudo-discovery of new Sonos zones
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2013, 08:15:06 am »
Here is expanded view on mine (Living Room 2 Has been disconnected for a few days btw)

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Zone Players
Zone Name Coordinator Group Location UUID Version MinCompatVer Compat
Whole Home false RINCON_000E58D339F601400:4 http://192.168.1.95:1400/xml/device_description.xml RINCON_000E58D337BE01400 21.4-61160c 21.1-00000
BRIDGE true RINCON_000E58E4E8C801400:0 http://192.168.1.75:1400/xml/device_description.xml RINCON_000E58E4E8C801400 21.4-61160c 21.1-00000
Portable false RINCON_000E58D339F601400:4 http://192.168.1.70:1400/xml/device_description.xml RINCON_000E587DE3F601400 21.4-61160c 21.1-00000
CONNECT true RINCON_000E582E1D7E01400:121 http://192.168.1.73:1400/xml/device_description.xml RINCON_000E582E1D7E01400 21.4-61160c 21.1-00000
Living Room2 true RINCON_000E58D339F601400:4 http://192.168.1.98:1400/xml/device_description.xml RINCON_000E58D339F601400 21.4-61160c 21.1-00000


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Re: Pseudo-discovery of new Sonos zones
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2013, 08:20:03 am »
Here is expanded view on mine (Living Room 2 Has been disconnected for a few days btw)

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Zone Players
Zone Name Coordinator Group Location UUID Version MinCompatVer Compat
Whole Home false RINCON_000E58D339F601400:4 http://192.168.1.95:1400/xml/device_description.xml RINCON_000E58D337BE01400 21.4-61160c 21.1-00000
BRIDGE true RINCON_000E58E4E8C801400:0 http://192.168.1.75:1400/xml/device_description.xml RINCON_000E58E4E8C801400 21.4-61160c 21.1-00000
Portable false RINCON_000E58D339F601400:4 http://192.168.1.70:1400/xml/device_description.xml RINCON_000E587DE3F601400 21.4-61160c 21.1-00000
CONNECT true RINCON_000E582E1D7E01400:121 http://192.168.1.73:1400/xml/device_description.xml RINCON_000E582E1D7E01400 21.4-61160c 21.1-00000
Living Room2 true RINCON_000E58D339F601400:4 http://192.168.1.98:1400/xml/device_description.xml RINCON_000E58D339F601400 21.4-61160c 21.1-00000



Weird that "Living Room 2" didn't disappear for you.. When I disconnected one (of the stereo-paired units) it was removed from the topology immediately...
 

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Re: Pseudo-discovery of new Sonos zones
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2013, 08:31:25 am »
Forgot my VPN.

Here comes the descriptor files for left/right channel.

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Re: Pseudo-discovery of new Sonos zones
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2013, 08:50:53 am »
A bit hackish but

http://192.168.178.33:1400/status/zp

Gives the following which contains "(L)" in ZoneName. This could be used to distiguish groups from pair.


ZoneName   K?k (L)
ZoneIcon   x-rincon-roomicon:kitchen
Configuration   1
LocalUID   RINCON_000E587E838C01400
SerialNumber   00-0E-58-7E-83-8C:9
SoftwareVersion   21.4-61160c
MinCompatibleVersion   21.1-00000
HardwareVersion   1.8.1.2-2
IPAddress   192.168.178.33
MACAddress   00:0E:58:7E:83:8C
Copyright   ? 2004-2007 Sonos, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
ExtraInfo   OTP:
HTAudioInCode   0
IdxTrk   


This might be even more interesting.

http://192.168.178.34:1400/status/jffs/localsettings.txt

contents of /jffs/localsettings.txt
Version: [1.0]
HouseholdID: [Sonos_GuXqZszxZ3pwixYDli3Y6ZuMea]
BootSeq: [23]
RegisteredCustomerID: [--------]
ZoneName: [K?k]
Icon: [x-rincon-roomicon:kitchen]
EQ: [AMV55 LV100 RV100 B0 T0 LY FN SS4 LEV0 SWY SC0 SP0]
GroupID: [17]
ChannelMapSet: [RINCON_000E587E838C01400:LF,LF;RINCON_000E587E83B801400:RF,RF]
Invisible: [1]
UnpairedZoneName: [Vardagsrum]
UnpairedIcon: [x-rincon-roomicon:living]
LED: [Off]
Configuration: [1]
UnpairedConfiguration: [1]


http://192.168.178.33:1400/status/jffs/localsettings.txt

contents of /jffs/localsettings.txt
Version: [1.0]
HouseholdID: [Sonos_GuXqZszxZ3pwixYDli3Y6ZuMea]
BootSeq: [17]
ZoneName: [K?k]
Icon: [x-rincon-roomicon:kitchen]
RegisteredCustomerID: [-------]
EQ: [AMV55 LV100 RV100 B0 T0 LY FN SS4 LEV0 SWY SC0 SP0]
GroupID: [2]
ChannelMapSet: [RINCON_000E587E838C01400:LF,LF;RINCON_000E587E83B801400:RF,RF]
Invisible: [ 0 ]
UnpairedZoneName: [K?k]
UnpairedIcon: [x-rincon-roomicon:kitchen]
LED: [Off]
Configuration: [1]
UnpairedConfiguration: [1]
« Last Edit: March 15, 2013, 08:53:47 am by hek »

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Re: Pseudo-discovery of new Sonos zones
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2013, 11:21:29 am »
Here is expanded view on mine (Living Room 2 Has been disconnected for a few days btw)

Code: [Select]
Zone Players
Zone Name Coordinator Group Location UUID Version MinCompatVer Compat
Whole Home false RINCON_000E58D339F601400:4 http://192.168.1.95:1400/xml/device_description.xml RINCON_000E58D337BE01400 21.4-61160c 21.1-00000
BRIDGE true RINCON_000E58E4E8C801400:0 http://192.168.1.75:1400/xml/device_description.xml RINCON_000E58E4E8C801400 21.4-61160c 21.1-00000
Portable false RINCON_000E58D339F601400:4 http://192.168.1.70:1400/xml/device_description.xml RINCON_000E587DE3F601400 21.4-61160c 21.1-00000
CONNECT true RINCON_000E582E1D7E01400:121 http://192.168.1.73:1400/xml/device_description.xml RINCON_000E582E1D7E01400 21.4-61160c 21.1-00000
Living Room2 true RINCON_000E58D339F601400:4 http://192.168.1.98:1400/xml/device_description.xml RINCON_000E58D339F601400 21.4-61160c 21.1-00000


Are you absolutely sure that your Living Room2 Sonos zone is unplugged ?
Reading your information, I would have concluded that it is even the master of a group including Whole Home zone and Portable zone.

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Re: Pseudo-discovery of new Sonos zones
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2013, 11:31:50 am »
Forgot my VPN.

Here comes the descriptor files for left/right channel.

What I need now is the same file for one of your 2 Sonos when they are unpaired.
I will then compare the two files.

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Re: Pseudo-discovery of new Sonos zones
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2013, 11:37:07 am »
A bit hackish but

http://192.168.178.33:1400/status/zp

Gives the following which contains "(L)" in ZoneName. This could be used to distiguish groups from pair.


ZoneName   K?k (L)
ZoneIcon   x-rincon-roomicon:kitchen
Configuration   1
LocalUID   RINCON_000E587E838C01400
SerialNumber   00-0E-58-7E-83-8C:9
SoftwareVersion   21.4-61160c
MinCompatibleVersion   21.1-00000
HardwareVersion   1.8.1.2-2
IPAddress   192.168.178.33
MACAddress   00:0E:58:7E:83:8C
Copyright   ? 2004-2007 Sonos, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
ExtraInfo   OTP:
HTAudioInCode   0
IdxTrk   


This might be even more interesting.

http://192.168.178.34:1400/status/jffs/localsettings.txt

contents of /jffs/localsettings.txt
Version: [1.0]
HouseholdID: [Sonos_GuXqZszxZ3pwixYDli3Y6ZuMea]
BootSeq: [23]
RegisteredCustomerID: [--------]
ZoneName: [K?k]
Icon: [x-rincon-roomicon:kitchen]
EQ: [AMV55 LV100 RV100 B0 T0 LY FN SS4 LEV0 SWY SC0 SP0]
GroupID: [17]
ChannelMapSet: [RINCON_000E587E838C01400:LF,LF;RINCON_000E587E83B801400:RF,RF]
Invisible: [1]
UnpairedZoneName: [Vardagsrum]
UnpairedIcon: [x-rincon-roomicon:living]
LED: [Off]
Configuration: [1]
UnpairedConfiguration: [1]


http://192.168.178.33:1400/status/jffs/localsettings.txt

contents of /jffs/localsettings.txt
Version: [1.0]
HouseholdID: [Sonos_GuXqZszxZ3pwixYDli3Y6ZuMea]
BootSeq: [17]
ZoneName: [K?k]
Icon: [x-rincon-roomicon:kitchen]
RegisteredCustomerID: [-------]
EQ: [AMV55 LV100 RV100 B0 T0 LY FN SS4 LEV0 SWY SC0 SP0]
GroupID: [2]
ChannelMapSet: [RINCON_000E587E838C01400:LF,LF;RINCON_000E587E83B801400:RF,RF]
Invisible: [ 0 ]
UnpairedZoneName: [K?k]
UnpairedIcon: [x-rincon-roomicon:kitchen]
LED: [Off]
Configuration: [1]
UnpairedConfiguration: [1]

Same thing: can you give the result when they are unpaired ?
Maybe "Invisible" when set to 0 means "paired" ?
I would prefer avoid sending a new HTTP request
I am confident that the information "paired" or not is somewhere in the description file.

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Re: Pseudo-discovery of new Sonos zones
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2013, 01:10:48 pm »
Ok, here follows the same for two grouped play:3.

http://192.168.178.33:1400/status/jffs/localsettings.txt

Code: [Select]
contents of /jffs/localsettings.txt
Version: [1.0]
HouseholdID: [Sonos_GuXqZszxZ3pwixYDli3Y6ZuMea]
BootSeq: [17]
ZoneName: [K?k]
Icon: [x-rincon-roomicon:kitchen]
RegisteredCustomerID: [----]
EQ: [AMV4 LV100 RV100 B0 T0 LY FN SS4 LEV0 SWY SC0 SP0]
GroupID: [2]
ChannelMapSet: []
Invisible: [0]
UnpairedZoneName: [K?k]
UnpairedIcon: [x-rincon-roomicon:kitchen]
LED: [Off]
Configuration: [1]
UnpairedConfiguration: [1]


http://192.168.178.34:1400/status/jffs/localsettings.txt

Code: [Select]
contents of /jffs/localsettings.txt
Version: [1.0]
HouseholdID: [Sonos_GuXqZszxZ3pwixYDli3Y6ZuMea]
BootSeq: [23]
RegisteredCustomerID: [------]
ZoneName: [Vardagsrum]
Icon: [x-rincon-roomicon:living]
EQ: [AMV2 LV100 RV100 B0 T0 LY FN SS4 LEV0 SWY SC0 SP0]
GroupID: [18]
ChannelMapSet: []
Invisible: [0]
UnpairedZoneName: [Vardagsrum]
UnpairedIcon: [x-rincon-roomicon:living]
LED: [Off]
Configuration: [1]
UnpairedConfiguration: [1]


Attached device_description for the devices aswell.
So invisible = 1 means a paired set of speakers. The Speaker with invisible=1 should also be "disabled" in vera.

But as you mention this means another http-request for each unit. This is also undocumented "features" of the sonos.. so they might change in the future.. But what the heck ;)
« Last Edit: March 15, 2013, 01:16:48 pm by hek »

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Re: Pseudo-discovery of new Sonos zones
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2013, 01:11:32 pm »
And could you please give me the description file of your BRIDGE ?
parkerc provides me this information one day but unfortunately in a not usable form...

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Re: Pseudo-discovery of new Sonos zones
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2013, 01:16:08 pm »
 :( The description file can not help for the pairing detection  :(
« Last Edit: March 15, 2013, 01:18:32 pm by lolodomo »

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Re: Pseudo-discovery of new Sonos zones
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2013, 01:19:36 pm »
Bridge.. also see my updated comment above...

http://192.168.178.30:1400/status/jffs/localsettings.txt

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contents of /jffs/localsettings.txt
Version: [1.0]
HouseholdID: [Sonos_GuXqZszxZ3pwixYDli3Y6ZuMea]
BootSeq: [17]
ZoneName: [BRIDGE]
Icon: [x-rincon-roomicon:viper]
RegisteredCustomerID: [-------]

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Re: Pseudo-discovery of new Sonos zones
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2013, 01:24:30 pm »
So we have this solution:

A bit hackish but

http://192.168.178.33:1400/status/zp

Gives the following which contains "(L)" in ZoneName. This could be used to distiguish groups from pair.


ZoneName   K?k (L)

Or this solution:

Quote
This might be even more interesting.

http://192.168.178.34:1400/status/jffs/localsettings.txt

Invisible: [1]

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Re: Pseudo-discovery of new Sonos zones
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2013, 01:33:55 pm »
I vote for #2.

(L), (R) appending of zone-names is more likely to change in the future .


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Re: Pseudo-discovery of new Sonos zones
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2013, 01:46:57 pm »
Four grouped zones, I am curious to know if the status displayed on the dashboard (or in front of "Playing..." in the Control tab) and all the media information in the Player tab are updated on the "slave" zones. Or do you have exactly the same information on all the devices belonging to the group ? Or have you only few differences ?
Can someone check please ?

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Re: Pseudo-discovery of new Sonos zones
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2013, 05:50:14 pm »
Yes it is, sorry for delay!


You have 4 Sonos and 3 of them are grouped with the one named "UtilityRmBridge" being the coordinator for this group.
Is it correct ?