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Offline waltzer11

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Re: Evolve Dimmer Switch LRM-AS and LTM-5
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2013, 06:19:18 pm »
Understood, but my point stands, current GE/Jasco switches don't support associations according to all available documentation on the Internet (plus I own several GE switches). So if you are trying to test using them in your Groups they simply will not work. Hopefully I'm not misunderstanding your testing scenario.

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i understand. GE/Jasco will not associate to any zwave switch if you use them as the primary source of association (I tried that already). i used CA3000 intermatic switch as the primary source and associated two GE 45609 and they work fine until now. so when i take my dog out to the backyard, all i have to do is turn on the CA3000 intermatic switch and the 2 GE 45609 will simultaneously turn on their respective lights (porch light and swimming pool light)  Just this afternoon. i used LTM-5 as my main source and associated GE 45612 dimmer (kitchen) and LRM-AS (also dimmer) in the dining room in Group 1. They all worked.

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Re: Evolve Dimmer Switch LRM-AS and LTM-5
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2013, 07:46:16 pm »
@TC1 - Most, if not all, GE/Jasco devices do not support associations. This means that A GE/Jasco switch cannot be used to control other devices via association. However, any Z-Wave device can be controlled by another device that does support associations.

Think of it in terms of devices that support associations are controllers. They can control other devices. GE/Jasco devices are not controllers, but they can be controlled.

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Re: Evolve Dimmer Switch LRM-AS and LTM-5
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2013, 07:59:39 pm »
However, any Z-Wave device can be controlled by another device that does support associations.



Thanks, that explains it. Wasn't quite seeing it, but yes, it's clear now.

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Re: Evolve Dimmer Switch LRM-AS and LTM-5
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2013, 01:28:58 pm »
I'm unable to locate an Evolve manual. It is possible that they are using a different firmware than Linear and that it only supports 1 group. Does your manual not discuss groups?

i tried to send you the scanned manual but the file is too large (pdf or jpeg). but the manual mentioned about 4 groups without any further details. it just says "the LED of LTM-5 will flicker when transmitting commands to any of its 4 groups. check this out: http://www.evolvecontrols.com/http://www.evolvecontrols.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/specs/LTM-5_3-Way%20Switch.pdf

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Re: Evolve Dimmer Switch LRM-AS and LTM-5
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2013, 02:19:54 pm »
I've seen the Evolve spec sheets that you linked to, but they aren't helpful in this case.

Observe the section on association groups in page 2 of the Linear manual. If your Evolve manual has had this section removed, it may be that Evolve has removed multi-group association support from the switch. It sounds like this is the case. If so, you're stuck with a single GroupID 1.

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Re: Evolve Dimmer Switch LRM-AS and LTM-5
« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2014, 01:23:41 pm »
I've seen the Evolve spec sheets that you linked to, but they aren't helpful in this case.

Observe the section on association groups in page 2 of the Linear manual. If your Evolve manual has had this section removed, it may be that Evolve has removed multi-group association support from the switch. It sounds like this is the case. If so, you're stuck with a single GroupID 1.

I have managed to source all the manuals for both product lines.  It seems that the Evolve version of both the WD500Z-1 (LSM-15) and the WT00Z-1 (LTM-5) do not support more than one group where the Linear versions support 3 and 4 groups respectively, with 5 devices per group.

See links below

LSM-15: ftp://act-solutions.com/Megaworld/Quotes/Zwave/ZRW153%20and%20LSM15/Evolve%20300%20Series%20(LSM-15)/Instructions/LSM-15_2.pdf

WT00Z-1: http://www.linearcorp.com/pdf/manuals/WT00Z1_manual.pdf

LSM-5: ftp://act-solutions.com/Megaworld/Quotes/Zwave/LTM-5/Instruction%20Sheet/Archive/LTM-5%20S300%20R5.1_Inst.pdf

WD500Z-1: http://www.linearcorp.com/pdf/manuals/WD500Z1_manual.pdf
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