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Offline greenhighlighter

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Blue iris vs DVR?
« on: November 17, 2013, 01:59:08 pm »
Hi all --

If I understand correctly, Blue Iris is basically a software package that turns your computer into a dvr plus it also links with Vera.  Is that correct?  If so, what's the downside of this?  Having to have a computer at home and on all the time?  We have an older laptop that we can use, so this seems fine for us.  Anything else I should consider? 

Will Blue Iris work with any camera?  Here are the cameras we're planning to get based on the recommendation of the AO salesperson:

2-Indoor:  Indoor dome camera with IR $70
     http://www.automatedoutlet.com/s.nl/it.A/id.66002/.f
3-Outdoor:  Eyeball dome camera $90
     http://www.automatedoutlet.com/Home/Cameras/PVD-700EBN

Would this work?  And be recommended?

Thanks!!!!

Offline BrianLBeaton

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Re: Blue iris vs DVR?
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2013, 09:52:02 pm »
I use Blue-Iris 3--however, I don't have your listed cameras.  See http://www.blueirissoftware.com/6.html for Tested Network IP Cameras.  Also see the note on that page "If you don't see your camera listed, please email for assistance in getting it to work."

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Re: Blue iris vs DVR?
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2013, 10:54:32 pm »
Ah, great idea!  Thank you!

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Re: Blue iris vs DVR?
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2013, 10:27:20 am »
This is the Blue iris forum:
https://ipcamtalk.com
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Re: Blue iris vs DVR?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2013, 12:25:20 pm »
This is the Blue iris forum:
http://www.cam-it.org
Thanks!  I just registered :)

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Re: Blue iris vs DVR?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2013, 01:11:18 pm »
I use BlueIris and it works great for the price. I have yet to find any other NVR that will allow you to have 64 cameras for $50.

It would be nice to have a BlueIris plugin for Vera but no one has built one "yet". Since BlueIris is pulling the video from my cameras already I would rather have Vera (and everyone else) get the video from BlueIris, the more devices you have connect to your IP Cameras the more load it puts on them. Computers have more power to handle that extra load but the IP Cameras tend to have issues when they have to many. Plus I would rather have the better motion detection from BlueIris vs the camera built-in motion detection.
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Re: Blue iris vs DVR?
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2013, 01:28:36 pm »
I use BlueIris and it works great for the price. I have yet to find any other NVR that will allow you to have 64 cameras for $50.

It would be nice to have a BlueIris plugin for Vera but no one has built one "yet". Since BlueIris is pulling the video from my cameras already I would rather have Vera (and everyone else) get the video from BlueIris, the more devices you have connect to your IP Cameras the more load it puts on them. Computers have more power to handle that extra load but the IP Cameras tend to have issues when they have to many. Plus I would rather have the better motion detection from BlueIris vs the camera built-in motion detection.

Can you connect BI to your security system and then use that to link to Vera?  I'm setting up a DSC 1864.

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Re: Blue iris vs DVR?
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2013, 01:55:41 pm »
You should use the EVL-3 to link your DSC Alarm system to Vera. For $100 you will get every sensor to show up in Vera with instant status and you will be able to Arm and Disarm from within Vera.

At my house, when one of us enters our PIN code, Vera will disarm the alarm and if it is night time Vera will also turn on all the lights on the first floor. Also if you leave a door open for longer than 2 minutes Vera will send alerts to our phones letting us know we left the door open. And if you open the back door, Vera will send us an alert in 10 minutes asking if we left the dog outside.

For anyone getting an alarm, get as many sensors and motion detectors as you can. The alarm system motion sensors and door/window sensors are much cheaper than Z-Wave devices plus there is no delay, the notification is instant. See if you can also get sensors for the Garage door, this will be needed to control it with the Garage Door plugin which works great.

I haven't really used BlueIris to much to send messages to Vera but I am about to for the reason I mentioned before. Camera's will normally have a motion detection feature but they are limited. I plan on using BlueIris to send http commands to Vera to toggle motion detection just like my current cameras are doing. If someone else is already doing this chime in, but I have seen other threads where there are some examples on doing this.
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Re: Blue iris vs DVR?
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2013, 04:32:23 pm »
Chris,
Are you using PLEG for your scenes?  Would love to see the code behind them... I'm about to start doing the same things.

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Re: Blue iris vs DVR?
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2013, 04:45:34 pm »
Just got my first camera and have Blue Iris. i'd love to see the settings page for accessing BI from Vera, nothing i've tried so far gets a response.
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Re: Blue iris vs DVR?
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2013, 05:27:12 pm »
You should use the EVL-3 to link your DSC Alarm system to Vera.

Yep, I will be setting this up.  However, can BI link to DSC? 

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Re: Blue iris vs DVR?
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2013, 10:26:32 pm »
It would be nice to have a BlueIris plugin for Vera but no one has built one "yet". Since BlueIris is pulling the video from my cameras already I would rather have Vera (and everyone else) get the video from BlueIris,

That would be awesome , I have now some cameras which don't want to to show up in vera, but working fine in blue iris.

I wish I could programm, unfortunately this programming language , I cannot make heads or tail from it.

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Re: Blue iris vs DVR?
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2013, 10:56:42 pm »
You should use the EVL-3 to link your DSC Alarm system to Vera.

Yep, I will be setting this up.  However, can BI link to DSC?

Why would you want to link BlueIris to your DSC? The idea is to have all the control in Vera and BlueIris monitor and record the video. If you need to send something to the DSC, you can do it from Vera.
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Re: Blue iris vs DVR?
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2013, 10:59:25 pm »
Chris,
Are you using PLEG for your scenes?  Would love to see the code behind them... I'm about to start doing the same things.

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here is what I have using PLEG to act based on one of the PIN codes being entered at night time:

Triggers

Name   Description   Last Trigger   State
PIN1Entered    PIN Code #1 is entered on Front Door Lock   2013-11-18 19:13:15.426   true
PIN2Entered    PIN Code #2 is entered on Front Door Lock   2013-11-18 15:13:02.296   false
PIN3Entered    PIN Code #3 is entered on Front Door Lock   2013-11-16 23:23:36.204   false
PIN4Entered    PIN Code #4 is entered on Front Door Lock   2013-11-17 17:46:00.153   false
isNightTime    DayNightPlugin indicates Night time.   2013-11-18 17:27:26.119   true
Conditions

Name   Expression   Last True   State
_PinCodeEntered   PIN1Entered OR PIN2Entered OR PIN3Entered OR PIN4Entered   2013-11-18 19:13:15.432   true
_UnLockAtNight   isNightTime AND (isNightTime;_PinCodeEntered)   2013-11-18 19:13:15.435   true
Actions

Actions for Condition: _UnLockAtNight

Immediate

Device   Action   Arguments
Breakfast Room Light   SetLoadLevelTarget    newLoadlevelTarget=100
Dinning Room Light   SetLoadLevelTarget    newLoadlevelTarget=100
Kitchen Light   SetTarget    newTargetValue=1
Living Room Light   SetLoadLevelTarget    newLoadlevelTarget=100
Stairs Light   SetLoadLevelTarget    newLoadlevelTarget=100
Nightstand Lamp - Sandra   SetTarget    newTargetValue=1
Nightstand Lamp - Chris   SetTarget    newTargetValue=1
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Re: Blue iris vs DVR?
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2013, 03:45:40 pm »
Chris, how are you handling the scenes with timings?

thx for sharing!