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Offline nolos

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Re: IR
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2008, 05:28:44 pm »
Not to push, but is there any headway on the USBUIRT support yet? I am really anxious to get the IR end lined out at my house and that is going to be the backbone.

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Re: IR
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2008, 02:20:21 pm »
Not yet.  We're working to resolve any outstanding glitches in the Z-Wave stuff before moving on to wrap up this support.

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Re: IR
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2008, 10:21:37 pm »
IR, see ya in 2009! :)

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Re: IR
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2009, 10:39:30 am »
I'm surprised nobody but 'rickg' has ever mentioned using the IRTrans unit with Vera...
http://www.irtrans.de/en/shop/lan.php

Is it too pricey?  EU-only?  Not as feature-rich as more preferred IR transceivers?

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Re: IR
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2009, 11:05:04 am »
I guess I just don't understand why everyone is thinking of running wire or buying more routers and flashing them to make satellites.  What's wrong with getting a USBUIRT and pointing it at a remote extender?  That's what I did and I just put a remote extender receiver by each TV/Stereo/Etc, hid it, and used a sticky IR extender wire. extra receivers cost $16 each
Easy as pie.  I do Like the satellite idea but the only benefit over the extenders for me would be the usb ports

Link to extenders
http://www.automatedoutlet.com/Home?search=powermid

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Re: IR
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2009, 11:09:10 am »
Speaking of which (though I agree with your overall assessment, nolos), I just ran across the IRTrans model with USB interface ... for what it's worth:

http://www.irtrans.de/en/shop/usb.php

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Re: IR
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2009, 10:51:20 pm »
I guess I just don't understand why everyone is thinking of running wire or buying more routers and flashing them to make satellites.  What's wrong with getting a USBUIRT and pointing it at a remote extender?  That's what I did and I just put a remote extender receiver by each TV/Stereo/Etc, hid it, and used a sticky IR extender wire. extra receivers cost $16 each
Easy as pie.  I do Like the satellite idea but the only benefit over the extenders for me would be the usb ports

Link to extenders
http://www.automatedoutlet.com/Home?search=powermid

I think we discussed it last year... :) I guess you're lucky not to have neighbours using the same model. Something tells me radio communication between the pyramids is not encrypted, so if someone else' transceiver is located relatively close they will affect each other. Besides, I have few AV systems I would like to control, how exactly should I do it using these transceivers? It will turn on all my TVs when I want just one! :)

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Re: IR
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2009, 10:19:21 am »
 
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It will turn on all my TVs when I want just one!
Only if you have multiple AV equip that is the same as the other.  If one remote (not universal) will control both units then you might have some problems but I have 2 stereos, 2 tv's,2 Cable receivers, and a projector and no problems here.  I won't be using vera to change channels really and, if I do, it might be possible that one of my cable box remotes works for both and in that case you are correct; it will be changing on both units, but I only keep one TV on at a time so it doesn't really matter to me. 

P.S. My neighbors are far enough away that their RF wouldn't be able to reach me.  Plus one is so old I don't even think she has a TV. lol

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Re: IR
« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2009, 10:40:57 am »
Not to change the subject in the least... but I have to share a chuckle:

When I first set up X10 at my old house, every time I turned off the hall light, it would come back on again moments later.  Light off...wait...light back on.  Turns out this was caused by the neighbor across the street (whose house shared a transformer with mine).  Turning off my light also turned off his television!!

My classic mistake was leaving my X10 modules set to the default House Code ('A'), and my hall light module ('A2') shared the same unit code as his TV's appliance module!

I don't recall how many months this went on, or who was more exasperated....  :-)
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Re: IR
« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2009, 02:01:04 pm »
That's hillarious.  Like that guy in the commercial asking his wife what that switch went to and she didn't know so he started flipping it on and off and it was opening and closing the garage door on the neighbor's car

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Re: IR
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2009, 11:12:05 pm »
That's hillarious. 

It is. This is why I prefer to use properly engineered gadgets, not the ones based on 70-s technology :)

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Re: IR
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2009, 12:08:43 am »
... yet strangely IR the interfaces for TV's started in the [late] 1970's, go figure...

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_control

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@nolos, for some it's about using the Wiring they already have, to provide something robust.  I have some powermid's, but haven't used them in eon's due to the interference problems...  I lived in the city where things were really dense.  (I could see ~96 WiFi Routers from my apartment)

At my current place, I have Vera USB-tethered to the Alarm panel, and all tucked away in a [sealed, metal] Structured Wiring Closet.  Getting radio out of this requires extenders and extra cabling.

On the other hand, I already have Ethernet hard-wired down to the TV, so if USBUIRT became ETHUIRT, or WIFIUIRT, then I'd buy one in a heartbeat, as I know it would work reliably (even in a world of Wifi and other general Radio interference). 

Then there's the GC100, but it falls short in so many ways, esp for the $$ spent (IMHO)

If someone built a cheap USB "extender", running over standard Switched Ethernet (not just over CAT-5 Cabling), that could support/MUX all USB Devices (including Hubs, USBUIRT, RS232-Ports) and it was relatively cheap then they'd likely have a winner.  Bonus points if they can make it PoE compliant to avoid the extra plug-pack.  There are some that come close, but miss...

btw, I dont think this "thing" should be another [remoted] Vera.  That's overkill in oh-so-many ways

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Re: IR
« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2009, 12:25:28 am »
btw, I dont think this "thing" should be another [remoted] Vera.  That's overkill in oh-so-many ways

I don't think you can do better (feature/price ratio) then $25 Asus 520GU set up as access point for Wifi, Serial, and IR.

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Re: IR
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2009, 12:42:34 am »
The new .899 firmware supports the USB UIRT plug and play.

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Re: IR
« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2009, 12:55:15 am »
Exactly, but I'd prefer something much more compact, with extremely low power use, and without the bits that'll likely get me in trouble (yet-another-router to config, more wires to cable-tie, another ugly plug-pack, etc)

I was hacking an old Linksys NSLU2 with OpenWRT to do the job in the short term, since it was the closest match, until I found it wouldn't auto-boot upon power loss (unless I wanted to drag out the old 'Weller) and I had to build the whole tooling chain to get the serproxy bits working.

My thoughts were more consumer packaged:

  • For Wifi, or non PoE, think Apple Airport Express sized and "all in one"
  • For PoE, think "Gumstix" sized, where it's effectively inlined into the end of an Ethernet Cable, and has a USB connector on the other end.


I hate clutter in the Home theater ;)


Unfortunately, my Vera is tethered "upstairs" by the Alarm panel so there really isn't an option to use the USBUIRT "directly", but good to see MCV's comment just now that 1.0.899 supports that for those that can.



btw, where are you getting the '520 for $25, I see them mostly for $50.