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Hi

I've just noticed a new Danfoss Living Connect Z valve was released last month, new part number and firmware version. Has anyone got one of these. I would be interested to hear how they are performing?

http://heating.danfoss.com/PCMPDF/Danfoss%20Link_living_software-versions_VFIDC102.pdf

I've also attached a screenshot of a really nice table that Danfoss have done to show the differences in firmware versions.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2014, 06:05:03 pm by parkerc »

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Re: New Danfoss Living Connect Z - Code 014G0013 - Firmware 1.00 (Jan 2014)
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2014, 03:03:56 pm »
I understand from Vesternet that this new version addresses the panic issues seen and includes an updated z-wave chip - they also seem to think the price is going up too :(

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Re: New Danfoss Living Connect Z - Code 014G0013 - Firmware 1.00 (Jan 2014)
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2014, 07:13:58 am »
Are they available yet?  Vesternet didn't mention the version they are selling; my own stockist has them on the website as a separate item (next to the older Danfoss version, and indeed more expensive), listed as "expected soon".  Wouldn't mind picking 1 up.
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Re: New Danfoss Living Connect Z - Code 014G0013 - Firmware 1.00 (Jan 2014)
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2014, 08:15:43 am »
Hi,

The new version 014G0013 is now on our site - http://www.vesternet.com/z-wave-danfoss-lc-13-living-connect-radiator-thermostat

We will keep it as a separate item to avoid any confusion with customers.

First stock will be with us during next week - we already have them on order and will announce this new version today or Monday.

The new one is based on the v4.5 Z-Wave SDK and as far as we know will address the "Panic" issues that we've seen with the current version.

We've not tested this yet, but we will take one from the first batch and run it through our tests to confirm that all works fine. And I'll report back here.

Parkerc is correct that the price has increased, this is a price increase from Danfoss.

Hope this helps.

Mark
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Re: New Danfoss Living Connect Z - Code 014G0013 - Firmware 1.00 (Jan 2014)
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2014, 12:13:23 pm »
Very curious on vera compatibility. And also if temperature can read and set remote.
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Re: New Danfoss Living Connect Z - Code 014G0013 - Firmware 1.00 (Jan 2014)
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2014, 04:44:49 am »
If Danfoss had spent a bit more time documenting how to use the existing version it would probably have a lot better reputation. After one and a half year of experimentation with these things and with the Stellaz my conclusion is that they actually work very well as long as you stay with zwave firmware 2.78. In my experiences that is not a limitation. Danfoss have really been useless at reporting issues. The older firmwares on the units account for lot of the troubles whit slow changes failures etc. but they don't seem to want to admit that they initially sold a prototype...

Regarding the reading of temperature there I actually prefer the present Danfoss approach of not reporting temperature. On the Stellaz the temperature is displayed on the UI but since these things are mounted on a hot or cold pipe next to the radiator the temperature reported has nothing to do with room temperature. The Stellaz will report approximately one degree less than the set temperature since that is what the regulator does... Actual room temperature can be 20 but the Stellaz report 24 or more.
I use 433Mhz battery sensors for temperature and the nifty script on mios wiki to update the current temperature.

As I have written in some other threads the main issue with the Danfoss and Stellaz is the way they are handled by the Vera and there is not too much that can be solved in the valve end regardless of new firmware.

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Re: New Danfoss Living Connect Z - Code 014G0013 - Firmware 1.00 (Jan 2014)
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2014, 05:25:33 am »
I miss an indication of the danfoss is connected. It can be out of order for days and weeks witout I know about it.
And when I set a new temperature on phone, lets say 2 hours before I come home with guests, the rooms are cold.
I would like an indication "hey, ther has not been contact with the thermostat in the guestroom since xxxx" or/and a test "you have send a change to xx there has been no contact within 30 min".
And I do use 2.78.
They are a paine in the..
I use a lot of time checking them.
They are unrelayable. I hope the new one is better. I hope mcv will do something about it. Why cant they make it work on more than 2.78.
In the new ui 6/7 you may have to go back to do something else ?
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Btw. did they drop the vent. excersice in the new one ??
« Last Edit: February 08, 2014, 05:27:20 am by svaleb »

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Re: New Danfoss Living Connect Z - Code 014G0013 - Firmware 1.00 (Jan 2014)
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2014, 08:23:22 am »
The check on connection can be done fairly easily in PLEG. There are a few examples if you search around here a bit. This is otherwise a flaw in the UI and not the thermostats.

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Re: New Danfoss Living Connect Z - Code 014G0013 - Firmware 1.00 (Jan 2014)
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2014, 04:56:35 pm »
Does anyone know, did they solve in new version problem with slow reacting of valve on the temperature change?

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Hello Guys
I have bought one.But I do not know how it works.  :(

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Re: New Danfoss Living Connect Z - Code 014G0013 - Firmware 1.00 (Jan 2014)
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2014, 02:58:46 am »
Bought one for my bathroom.
Looks good; clean design. Mounted just fine on a original Danfoss crane with the use of the included M30 adapter.
Inclusion gave no problem, it showed up fine and I already knew the (soft)-device doesn't show the ambient temperature so no surprise there. The disappointment came while reading the 'manual' because there is nothing in it about scheduling. Later I found out this can only be done via Z-Wave and MCV doesn't support that as far as I know. I'm still renovating so the Danfoss is not mouted on the radiator yet. It is just lying in my livingroom so I can toy around with it and it does seem to react as aspected on changes via Vera. Although this can take up to half an hour because that is the default wakeup-interval. So if you want to change temparature right now your better off pushing the buttons on the Danfoss itself rather then waiting for the wake-up.
If you listen closeby you can here the valve move when changing the setpoint.
But, it would be great to be able to controle a schedule via Vera. The Danfoss is capable of scheduling and holding 9 setpoints/day. Does anyone have any idea how to apply a climate schedule to the DLC? I know there was a project for an app that was starting to look good but then was withdrawn and never heard of again. Too bad.
Would it be possible to use a scene or PLEG to send Z-Wave-commands to the Danfoss? Rather crude, no nice interface but just a list of scheduling commands. That would be a start to be able to control the DLC.
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Re: New Danfoss Living Connect Z - Code 014G0013 - Firmware 1.00 (Jan 2014)
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2014, 10:23:40 am »
I've just installed eleven of these. Feedback so far:

Installation was very straightforward. Each device picked up instantly on a Vera Lite running ZWave 3.2.

Changing the setpoint via the UI works. Eventually. The default wake up interval is 30 minutes and I think I'll need to experiment with this to find a good balance between battery life and usability.

Changing the setpoint via
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luup.call_action works. As does an HTTP call using
Code: [Select]
data_request?id=action.

After being away for the weekend I found several of the devices in E5 error state ("the thermostat is not receiving the expected replies from the control system"). Popping a battery out, replacing it and then performing a connection test resolved the problem in each case. As yet I don't know what caused the error state. It's either bad signal (but it really shouldn't be, they're all near mains-powered repeaters) or it may be that I was keeping Vera too busy. I have been restarting Z-Wave very frequently whilst working on plugins.

I'll monitor carefully for any more E5 states in the next couple of days and post back findings.

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Re: New Danfoss Living Connect Z - Code 014G0013 - Firmware 1.00 (Jan 2014)
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2014, 01:15:49 pm »
You may be interested in this post from earlier. I have had very minimal problems with  my Danfoss valves since, including one if the latest.
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=16723.msg131407#msg131407

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Re: New Danfoss Living Connect Z - Code 014G0013 - Firmware 1.00 (Jan 2014)
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2014, 06:01:33 pm »
Am tempted to buy some of these but there has not been any activity on this thread for a while. How are people getting on with them?

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Re: New Danfoss Living Connect Z - Code 014G0013 - Firmware 1.00 (Jan 2014)
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2014, 12:49:49 pm »
It works fine but there is no measuring of ambiant temperature because that is not implemented in the device. Vera lacks support for all functions of this device except for setpoint. It does report battery status. I had a support-request wit MCV but they gave up. So don't expect to be able to use schedules unless you make them yourself.
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