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Offline Da_JoJo

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Re: Vera UI7 Beta Program
« Reply #45 on: May 02, 2014, 07:39:22 pm »
has anyone tried HomeWave with UI7 yet?
funny you mention, I am waiting for someone to jump into UI7 and report their Homewave progress... only because of my concern of compatibility with HomeWave.
well, if it works with UI6 it also does in UI7..
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Re: Vera UI7 Beta Program
« Reply #46 on: May 02, 2014, 08:01:26 pm »
Are you using it then? 

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Re: Vera UI7 Beta Program
« Reply #47 on: May 02, 2014, 08:07:15 pm »
Are you using it then? 
no i use authomationhd 3.1 ... but if you look at the homewave section if it works for UI6 then it should work in UI7 too.
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Re: Vera UI7 Beta Program
« Reply #48 on: May 02, 2014, 08:37:19 pm »
Ok. Good.

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Re: Vera UI7 Beta Program
« Reply #49 on: May 02, 2014, 10:47:51 pm »
I've been compiling a list to give to MCV of little issues I've seen so far...
But I hope to nail down any ignorance on my part, and be able to reproduce my issues, before troubling them with it...

So after an overnight heal... and a manual heal...

Man is there allot of work ahead...

-Looks like their SQL server has cratered... I cannot make user specific settings(alerts, notifications..etc)
-I cannot get USB logging to function at all... It will not see my USB device(regardless of how it's formatted)(Vera 3)...I also have a Lite, but unable to test ATM..
-Any scenes that involve motion detection seem to be broke... Could actually be a bug within delays and/or being able to turn lights back off???
-No love on both the Aeon Labs 4-in-1(no surprise) and/or BRK/First Alert Smoke/CO2 detector...(REALLY guys)? <-- I also miss "Configure Node Now"... I've managed to make this happen, but there is little info as to if it's actually doing anything...
-Where do I insert LUA/LUUP for specific scenes now? I see some additional options under Dev Apps??? <--I did only apply for basic Beta?
-Thermostat(EvolVe) is off by 2 degrees F, This was true in UI6 as well.. I set the temp to 73F using the Web, IOS, and/or Android, the thermostat get's 75F.. I've tried removing from the network and re-adding... still the same..<--- This is not real-time data issue... I tell it to set to 75F, the device receives it as 77F<--- there is a problem there...
-I'm not so sure that the new scene creation process is any less complex...
-There seems to be some reminisce of old scenes from previous versions... IE, I delete an older scene... I can create a new one that does nothing but arm a motion sensor(solely)... and it somehow magically turns on a light that I had an action for in the old scene???<-- Never told it to turn that light on, nor gave it any association within the new UI...<-- possible problem with local settings? And given that the MIOS is broke as of this time?

Android app still crashes frequently(just a few clicks browsing the app)....
IOS App seems pretty stable... Even on IPad...<---LTE




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Re: Vera UI7 Beta Program
« Reply #50 on: May 02, 2014, 11:34:46 pm »
Took the plunge tonight...Most everything came back up, then the trouble started. First, I got stupid and added the app for Honeywell Vista alarm panel, which is wrong, I have a DSC.  Don't know why I did that. Anyway, I can't remove the app.  Actually, I can't remove any app. I went ahead and added a few more apps, but they aren't shown on the "My Apps" page. But they are installed, because I can see their LUUP files in Develop Apps.

A few other niggly things, but everything except my alarm panel are back (Yale lock, Kwikset lock, light switches, CT-100 thermostat, camera)

It's late.  I'll probably reset to factory in the morning (which I did when I did the upgrade) and start over.

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Re: Vera UI7 Beta Program
« Reply #51 on: May 02, 2014, 11:46:53 pm »
On of the errors that occurred during the UI4 to UI5 was a change to the App Store or market place and a number of apps numbers where reused which caused a later conflict. I hope the lesson learnt aren't forgotten.

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Re: Vera UI7 Beta Program
« Reply #52 on: May 03, 2014, 01:16:24 pm »
Looks like we can kiss another deadline goodbye. They publicly stated UI7 released by 1st half of Q2 (May 15th). From the feedback here so far, end of Q2 is questionable also.

Same old MCV. They can change their name, but they can't change how they operate.

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Re: Vera UI7 Beta Program
« Reply #53 on: May 03, 2014, 11:43:52 pm »
I wouldn't be so negative with them... This is Beta...
From what little I know, they have made the most customized/future proof system/engine to date...

And having said that, it could be possible that they kind of got caught with their pants down, when this (ZWave/Zigbee/Smart Home) market got blown up with much competition... And not just normal competition, But with some pretty hefty corps...  :o

IMO, they still have the leg up on this... As it's low cost and no contracts being a great selling point...
They are piping Nat traversal through their servers at no cost to the users(other than buying their hardware)...<--at this day and age, we should be using IPv6 and/or hardware VPNs/firewalls....

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Re: Vera UI7 Beta Program
« Reply #54 on: May 04, 2014, 01:06:53 pm »
hmmm yeah same problem with scenes here. i got a scene that turns on a flashing light when battery power is low on battery-operated devices and it all of a sudden changed to motion detecting instead of battery below 5% detect.  android app is crashing as soon as i login and local connect pressing does nothing. no on/off switches in my UI7 to find.. the space for control of a device is empty. and i still have to login locally with my old login from UI5. so if u upgrade to UI7 make sure enhanced security is turned off before u do.
the old firmware was beta also but this is really more alpha if u ask me. IPv6 would be nice but a lot of routers and providers people have do not support this. free remote login and piping is a nice feature indeed but one has to pay for storing video/pics on their servers and this still doesnt work properly. as for deadlines... i don't see a final UI7 soon as there is a lot to do, but the idea is pretty good and i like the new style and option to make a custom interface for plugins and the use of jquery.
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Re: Vera UI7 Beta Program
« Reply #55 on: May 05, 2014, 04:31:50 am »
UI7 is almost unworkable....

No LUUP options, all temperatures are in F (i live in EU), light sensors report >100% (in 1 case >1000%), i can't work with scenes modes because i can't run the whole setup wizard, i can't change my location (daylight data is not OK), its not possible to remove apps, account and user info is not working, unit settings can't be saved, and MUCH MORE.....

I'm very curious to the development path and when the next beta or RC will be available.... For now i won't test anymore because my system is completely down.... :'( >:(

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Re: Vera UI7 Beta Program
« Reply #56 on: May 05, 2014, 05:38:51 am »
Hi Freemann
Same situation here.
I cannot log in (addres not valid..)
No user information...
Can no longer acces the vizard
I could finish the "vizard" the first time I saw it.
It would not accept my phone number (in my country we have 8 digits, vera requiers 9)
I cannot change anything
And so on...
It is a mess right now.
Hope they will look into it soon.
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Re: Vera UI7 Beta Program
« Reply #57 on: May 05, 2014, 07:02:23 am »
Don't it work on this beta to make vera 3 a slave? I can't find the settings to setup my vera 3 to be a slave


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Re: Vera UI7 Beta Program
« Reply #58 on: May 05, 2014, 07:41:00 am »
you can uninstall apps by pressing details and right top there is a uninstall button.
repair individual node in z-wave settings repair is not working and repairs all.
no remote control from outside coz UI7 uses different auth server addresses.
battery operated devices run out of batterypower in 1/3 of the time it took with UI5.
login and userinfo works but you have to make a new account here : http://getvera.stg.mios.com  can set info after in http://<vera-ip>/cmh/#accountInfo (also pointed out in the mail got from betateam) .. unit settings can only be changed after u have a valid login and are logged in.
if u happen to have old UI5 enhanced security ON then you should have turned it off before upgrading to UI6/7 or you have to close browser and re-connect to local vera-ip and login with old login u had for UI5. if after making a new UI7 account you cannot login to local vera then you have to wait 24 hrs to be able to login again.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2014, 07:44:42 am by Da_JoJo »
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Re: Vera UI7 Beta Program
« Reply #59 on: May 05, 2014, 07:47:00 am »
Don't it work on this beta to make vera 3 a slave? I can't find the settings to setup my vera 3 to be a slave
http://<vera-ip>/cmh/#zwaveSettings  in advanced section u can Copy Z-Wave network from a master controller and Get network update from SUC/SIS
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