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Offline 416to305

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Question about speed of z wave motion sensors
« on: October 26, 2014, 12:03:00 pm »
Hi everyone hoping for some help. I am switching my house from Insteon to the Vera and so far most things work but I'm having issues with Insteon compatibility to the point that I might try to sell what I have and replace it.
 
The question I have though is when I would use motion sensors with Insteon and have a program set to turn lights on when motion is detected, there would always be a 1 to 2 second delay before they would turn on. The only way to fix this was to link the motion sensor and light switch together so that the motion sensor is a controller of the scene, basically direct control without going through a controller. This turns the lights on immediately but you can't do anything advanced like set beyond level or schedule.
 
Anyway I don't have any z wave motion sensors yet, but I have my Insteon ones added to the Vera. The problem is they almost never work, or rather they do but the lights don't come on for sometimes 5 or more seconds after you enter the room.
 
What i was just wondering, was if I buy an actual Z wave motion sensor, how do they typically work in terms of speed? Like this big delay with the light coming on, is that probably because Insteon really isn't all that compatible? Or what I expect the same results? I have an Insteon hidden door sensor that turns the lights on, and they come on the instant that the door opens. It's just the motion sensor that is incredibly slow. Thanks everyone!

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Re: Question about speed of z wave motion sensors
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2014, 12:09:56 pm »
Of course as soon as I post this everything starts working. I walk into the kitchen and the motion sensor turns the lights on right away. When I wrote my first message I couldn't get it to do anything even rebooting the Vera. It seems like with Insteon and altsteon it's almost like if you make too many changes like adding devices and what not which I just did (I added 2 dimmer modules) it's almost like it goes offline for awhile while it sets things up or something. I had given up and now suddenly it works. I would still be interested to find out though about the other motion sensors, mainly in terms of if they trigger lights quickly. Thanks!

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Re: Question about speed of z wave motion sensors
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2014, 12:27:46 pm »
Z-Wave motion sensors that are hard wired to a main power source (typically 5v) are quite reliable and subsecond.

Battery powered can take 2-5 seconds to react as saving power means it only comes on every few seconds.
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Re: Question about speed of z wave motion sensors
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2014, 01:35:08 pm »
I have battery powered zwave motion sensors in my house. Very reliable, I use them to turn on lights as well as for security. The delay is only noticeable when the sensor is far away from the controller and needs to route it's signal through other nodes on your network. I have 5 of these throughout my house and the reaction time is like 750ms for the kitchen, 500 ms for the bedroom, 700ms for the dining room, 800ms for the living room and about 1500ms for my foyer light.

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Re: Question about speed of z wave motion sensors
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2014, 02:24:46 pm »
Thanks guys that helps. Are there any recommended powered ones that aren't battery? Don't think I've come across them before

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Re: Question about speed of z wave motion sensors
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2014, 04:02:21 pm »
I use HSM100v3's.  There are others but I'm not an expert.
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