@doctorkb:
I beg to differ. Nest is limiting the number of users a certain developer can route through their servers and even the rate of commands you can send to your thermostat. If you're not certified there's no access or the access is severely limited.
You now all have access to this functionality precisely because we got certified by Nest! Going the other way will just break things. We were even forced to get an unofficial plugin down from our store because we were held accountable by Nest and it was using "unofficial" or obsolete API. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to use Nest with Vera right now.
You can say all you want but I know for a fact that we're doing it the right way with Nest on board. Maybe we don't get things as fast as we would like so but this is because we're not cutting any corners.
If you're curious you can register as a developer on their portal and start looking at their review process, guidelines and API because nothing is hidden. You'll immediately notice that everything I said here is true.
I don't think that holding us accountable for something that Nest isn't providing for you as users in the first place is fair. You can use any 3rd party app out there, it's not Vera specific and you'll see the same thing, as for the fact that we didn't specifically told you that you can't do something with Nest and Vera... yes, we didn't do that but at the same time I think there's an bigger list of things that you can't do with Nest and Vera.
For example we chose to implement all the things that you can do with it and a bit more because we're working with Nest to convince them that we should be able to change the device name (room actually) with the ones you customize from Vera so it works both ways symmetrically because we think it's fair for our common users to do so and we're going to continue improving what we're providing to you guys. Have a little faith in us and you'll see that we're going to make it great for all of you.
You clearly aren't reading my posts thoroughly.
I gave you VERY clear instructions, referencing the Nest Official API on how you can "turn fan off" - a feature you say Nest hasn't implemented. You continue to pass the buck.
Whether you had a take-down order or not about an unofficial plug-in is the subject of lore. The fact is, an unofficial API exists, and it WORKS BETTER THAN THE OFFICIAL.
I'll note that in the several years that I have been using that unofficial API, the longest it stops working for is a day or two when Nest updates. Cumulatively, I've had more downtime in the Vera WWN in the past *year* than I have in about 3 years with the unofficial API. I'll reference the weeks-long issues you had following Christmas 2016.
The bottom line is that you're making decisions that seem to be "good" ones, but Nest isn't playing fair. As most Vera users appear to be hobbyists that would also enjoy getting a Raspberry Pi set up and run the unofficial API that I referenced, I think you'll see lower uptake of the Vera WWN plug-in. I should also point out that you still haven't managed to integrate Nest Cams with Vera - even displaying the live feed would be appreciated.
