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Offline SRACP

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Re: NEW MultiWave Pool Controller
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2010, 01:35:43 pm »
This is all nice. What about those of us who need a simple pump on/off like the Intermatic CA3750? I can't beleive we still don't have a simple device to turn a pool pump on or off.

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Re: NEW MultiWave Pool Controller
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2010, 08:37:46 am »
Ok, I'm back with more...

I just got the Beta firmware from Intermatic.  All of the switches report the proper status feedback and are controllable as expected.  There is still not a Heat Pump Set Point and Current Temp being displayed in Vera but this may just be a modification request with Vera at this time so I will try to push the ball back to their court and keep the dialog open between MCV and Intermatic.

Also, those still looking for a CA3750 should know that apparently RCS picked up the unit and are selling it under the model PMC30-ZW.

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Re: NEW MultiWave Pool Controller
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2010, 12:06:42 pm »
Ok, and as for the heat pump control, MCV has responded (very quickly I might add :)) to adding this to the code and hopefully they will be able to start working on this in 2-3 weeks after some other current bugs are dealt with. 

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Re: NEW MultiWave Pool Controller
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2010, 12:34:47 pm »
Great news! Are they working on Current Temp display too?

Will we be able to create a scene such as "Spa on" that will trigger it to go to its spa mode vs "Spa off" that will return it to the pool mode? Or if we can't access the device's modes can we at least make a scene that says "turn pump 1 on, switch valves 1 and 2 to the left, and set temp to x"? Thanks for any info.

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Re: NEW MultiWave Pool Controller
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2010, 03:43:40 pm »
They will work on current temp as well.

As for now, you can already handle the Spa mode with one switch.  It is already something that you set up locally within the PE653. It automatically switches your actuators and switches your heat pump from the pool set temp to the spa set temp.

So if you have your heat pump settings already set on the PE953 remote and switch your pool to spa mode on Vera, then you will see the heat pump automatically turn on as well.  So in a sense the Vera will tell you when the pool is heating.  We are just waiting on the ability to know the current temp and be able to adjust the temp settings within Vera.

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Re: NEW MultiWave Pool Controller
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2010, 12:16:30 pm »
I have a running dialog with the Multi-wave tech support/developers (815) 675-7000 and they recently told me that they completed tests with Vera and that their pool controller system can (1) read and set temperatures (2) change actuators - like "pool to spa" and "filter pump on/off as well as (3) turn on pool/spa/aux lights.

This is really good news for me.

I specifically asked what I would need to control my Goldline Control AQL-PS4 controller and they are getting back to me.

They did mention that Vera needed a software upgrade to make the features run and that was a Micasaverde task.  Any news on when that may be available?

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Re: NEW MultiWave Pool Controller
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2010, 01:24:00 pm »
Remote Owner,
It has been two weeks since I posted about MCV being able to start working within 2-3 weeks on the project.  So I will see if I can get an update. 

Incidentally,  you reminded me that Intermatic has been testing against a Vera2 that I sent them so I need to ask for that back, now that they are done with it, before I forget! :)

Let you know as soon as I know anything new.

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Re: NEW MultiWave Pool Controller
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2010, 02:20:32 pm »
Any idea when the software is going to be released? I'm trying to decide if I should keep these units or not right now. So far they are really disappointing me. They work together quite well but I’ve found a couple of show-stoppers for me and I’m wondering if any of them are being fixed.  One is that the controller won’t work with any of the Intermatic Z-Wave older units (HA02 etc.), I spoke to their tech support and they tell me “sometimes it they work and sometimes they don’t”, I have about 20 of these units and none of them work with the controller I have, why call it “Z-Wave compatible” if it’s not?. The second and more serious thing to me is the fact that you can’t set the temperature of the spa or pool below 50 degrees on the controller. So if the water falls below that temperature in either the pool or the spa (which even in Arizona where I live it will do in winter) the heater will kick in and try to keep the water at 50 degrees, which could be quite costly 24/7 with propane. I just spoke to Intermatic tech support and their answer was “you’ll have to pull the breaker in winter if you don’t want the heater to come on under 50 degrees”. So what’s the point of having a control unit if every time I want to go in the spa in winter I have to walk around and manually switch on the breaker (doh!).

If any of you folks know anything I don’t about these problems I would really appreciate your input.

Thanks,

Mark
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Re: NEW MultiWave Pool Controller
« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2010, 12:38:05 pm »
I am still waiting to hear back on whether or not MCV will be working out these issues anytime soon. 

MarkC,
I have had a couple of HA02's behave flaky but I only use plugin modules for testing so I do not rely on them long term but I could see that being a problem for your setup.  Perhaps someone has a handle on other plugins that behave consistently. 

As for the Pool Controller you do have the 50 degree limit locked in.  I am in south Florida where they are marketing these units locally so we do not have a problem with the temp that low as many of the pool heat pumps only dial down to 60 degrees if you ran them directly.  What you could do is add a 220 Zwave switch to the power side of the Heater and flip it off and on (enable/disable).


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Re: NEW MultiWave Pool Controller
« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2010, 04:55:30 pm »
Has anyone actually installed one of these yet?  I'm very intrigued, and the roughly $350 price point seems excellent.

One other question--does the remote control work independent of Z-wave?  In other words, I'm wondering if Vera/Z-wave network went down whether this could be controlled using the primary remote controller, which appears to have built-in timer functions.

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Re: NEW MultiWave Pool Controller
« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2010, 05:08:05 pm »
Has anyone actually installed one of these yet?  I'm very intrigued, and the roughly $350 price point seems excellent.

One other question--does the remote control work independent of Z-wave?  In other words, I'm wondering if Vera/Z-wave network went down whether this could be controlled using the primary remote controller, which appears to have built-in timer functions.

I have one installed and it works for the most part. It just has some dumb settings and doesn't work well with other z-wave devices. I would not buy one again.

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Re: NEW MultiWave Pool Controller
« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2010, 06:25:26 pm »
The Multi-wave training person insisted they would not prohibit workinig with other Zwave devices. He went further to cliam that they will work well with other Zwave products.

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Re: NEW MultiWave Pool Controller
« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2010, 07:25:18 pm »
The Multi-wave training person insisted they would not prohibit workinig with other Zwave devices. He went further to cliam that they will work well with other Zwave products.

They told me the same thing before I bought the unit, then it was "oh deal, that doesn't seem to work does it". I have 20 if the Intermaitc appliance modules (indoor and outdoor) and my unit won't work with any of them. Made by the same company as the pool controller.

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Re: NEW MultiWave Pool Controller
« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2010, 07:27:50 pm »
so what modules do work!

Why did I waste my time in the training class. That's what you get on the internet.

Is there any product  in Zwave that works without a hastle?

Cmon FOLKS.... GEEZ.

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Re: NEW MultiWave Pool Controller
« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2010, 07:51:18 pm »
so what modules do work!

Why did I waste my time in the training class. That's what you get on the internet.

Is there any product  in Zwave that works without a hastle?

Cmon FOLKS.... GEEZ.


Hey, none of my business, why did you waste your time in training class?  You asked a question, I answered it.  If you don't want answers you don't like, don't ask questions.

I won't bother answering next time, that's for sure.