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Offline rlmalisz

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Schlage BE599 lever lock has gone a bit off the tracks...
« on: May 27, 2017, 09:22:35 pm »
We have several of these around the house, all facing out from outbuildings.  Use Eneloops for batteries in them...we get to change them more frequently, but aren't producing battery waste.

The unit on one of the greenhouse doors gave me the "low battery" beep two days back.  But opened.  My SO had it blink red and not open that evening.  I dutifully went out the next day and put a set of freshly charged batteries in it, and assumed it would all be fine.  But did not test.

This morning tried to unlock it using the keypad.  No beeps on button presses, but the pressed buttons light.  Finish the PIN and the "schlage" button lights green for a second or two (but does not unlock), then turns red, and then goes out.  Highly repeatable.  The lock/unlock buttons on the inside work as expected.  Lock/unlock via Vera works fine.

I've tried removing the problematic PIN and readding it...no luck.  I'd say it was just a PIN management problem,  but the lack of beeps on button press is weird.  Have checked the little internal connector between the two lock halves...fully seated.  Removed a battery and waited 30 seconds and replaced...no change.

Has anyone here seen anything like this?  It seems bizarre that it worked the day before, and then went silent and stubborn when the batteries dropped too low.

--Richard

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Re: Schlage BE599 lever lock has gone a bit off the tracks...
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2017, 11:04:17 pm »
See my thread on Schlage Longevity. I lost 2 of them in a month. Even worse than yours...
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Re: Schlage BE599 lever lock has gone a bit off the tracks...
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2017, 05:26:39 pm »
You might also try regular alkaline batteries.
Each battery type has a different Voltage discharge pattern ... and some electronics may be sensitive to the voltage drop  even though the total stored energy in the battery is high.
The % of battery life is tied to the voltage decay pattern for an alkaline battery (or what ever battery type they recommend/design for) and will be inaccurate for all other battery families.
Not only is voltage decay different for each battery family it's also NOT linear ...

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Re: Schlage BE599 lever lock has gone a bit off the tracks...
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2017, 06:04:54 pm »
You might also try regular alkaline batteries.
Each battery type has a different Voltage discharge pattern ... and some electronics may be sensitive to the voltage drop  even though the total stored energy in the battery is high.
The % of battery life is tied to the voltage decay pattern for an alkaline battery (or what ever battery type they recommend/design for) and will be inaccurate for all other battery families.
Not only is voltage decay different for each battery family it's also NOT linear ...

That's the thing I am headed out to do now...but it was on Eneloops for the last year or so, so I'm not hopeful.  If this is a bust, then it's on to a factory reset, exclude, include, yada, yada.  And then replacement shopping, if that's of no avail.

Thanks for the suggestion.  It's worth a try.

--Richard

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Re: Schlage FE599 lever lock has gone a bit off the tracks...
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2017, 01:47:26 pm »
Corrected the model number.

But on a brighter note, while swapping in real batteries made no difference, I was able to track down (thank you, SmartHome!  No longer something easy to find at Schlage's pages) the keypad programming + troubleshooting doc for this family of locks.  Troubleshooting table seemed to indicate that the lock was in vacation mode.  Went out and punched in the PC, and voila!  Entry codes resumed working.  Entered the sequence to toggle keypad beeps, and voila!  Those came back as well.

A relief.  I had the V3 battery pack charged up and was ready to go out and reset, exclude, include, and then spend a few hours hunting down and repairing scenes, LUA code, and web queries that knew the lock's current device number.  Assuming the lock got better on reset.  This was a lot less painful.

--Richard

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Re: Schlage BE599 lever lock has gone a bit off the tracks...
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2017, 06:22:33 pm »
Maybe you can edit your post with the URL for that nugget.

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Re: Schlage BE599 lever lock has gone a bit off the tracks...
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2017, 06:41:30 pm »
from my favorites.
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Re: Schlage BE599 lever lock has gone a bit off the tracks...
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2017, 08:40:27 pm »
I had a similar lock on my front door at my old house. Cannot remember the make, but it worked well. Pre-Vera so no z-wave.
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