You are misunderstanding this .. Z-Wave nodes are identified by the AltId in a vera device.
You need to find the Vera Devices that have an AltId of 5 and 135
Richard,
what is the difference between a device number and an altid?
Just in case anyone needs clarification here is the answer here.
Thread:
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=27218.0A Z-Wave device has two identities: Within the Z-Wave network, it has a Node number; Within Vera, it has a Device number. When you add a new device it usually gets the next number of each type - one higher than the last added device.
When you are controlling and programming devices with Vera you usually refer to them by Device number. The actual control via the Z-Wave network uses the Node number.
On the Settings tab, ID refers to the Node number.
On the Advanced tab, id refers to the Device number and altid refers to the Node number.
Neighbors are the Node numbers that are within communications range of a device.
In AutoRoute, there may be several routes separated by commas. Each route is a Node number - or multiple Nodes separated by periods - followed by a dash and a score. The score indicates the latency of the route and small numbers are better. There may also be an x suffix which indicates that the route failed when last tried. Note: This does not necessarily mean that it doesn't work...