We have moved at community.getvera.com

Author Topic: Wall Switches  (Read 9078 times)

Offline MarkC

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 86
  • Karma: +0/-0
Wall Switches
« on: August 17, 2010, 02:54:15 pm »
What wall switches do you guys use? I just need switches to control CFL lights. fans etc. so they don't need to be dimmable. All the ones I'm finding are $50-$150 each which can get kind of expensive when you have over 100 of them in the house (not that I'm going to replace them all but it would be nice to find a reasonable priced switch).

Just wondering if I'm missing anything.

Thanks for your help,

Mark

Offline strangely

  • Beta Testers
  • Master Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3722
  • Karma: +34/-2
  • Vera 1,3 & V light
Re: Wall Switches
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2010, 12:25:01 am »
For CFL's or Fans then there isn't much choice if you want cheap. I have a couple of GE/Jasco that are good multi purpose switches. The only cheaper switches than this are intermatic ones and don't be fooled by the price of these things as they are all obsolete products that probably wouldn't work for your use. Link below the GE/Jasco switch via ASI

http://www.asihome.com/ASIshop/product_info.php?cPath=564_574&products_id=4232
« Last Edit: August 18, 2010, 01:05:15 am by strangely »
Kwickset locks, HA01C, HA14C, HA02C, HA03C, HA05C, HA04C, HA07C, HA09C, Aeon HEM, GE 45604, 45606, 45609, ZDP100, VRF01-1LZ, WDTC-20, HA18WD, WDHA-12R, HRDS1, HM-TS001, AC1-ZW, TV-IP110, BL-C210A, LUUP control- EtherRain8, DSC Alarm, HDMI matrix, HR24-200, Panasonic TV, SQblaster

Offline garrettwp

  • Master Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 6371
  • Karma: +227/-128
  • Vera 3, Lite, ISY994
Re: Wall Switches
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2010, 12:52:51 am »
I was in the same situation when I wanted to get started with z-wave. I was kind of put off by the prices of the switches. But I then decided I wanted to do things right. I went with the Leviton switches. The on/off type will run you about $78. I do have to say that these switches are very nice and are worth the money. They come with a 5 year warranty. All in all, you get what you pay for. If I were you, I would just buy a few for lights that you use all of the time, and slowly work your way into incorporating more switches when funds permit.

By the way, the levition switch I am referring to is:
Leviton VRS15-1LX or Leviton VRS15-1LZ. They both offer three color plates e.g. almond, ivory or white.

Another thing to take into consideration is that the GE/Jasco switches are only in white. This was not an option for me as I have ivory switches and outlets in my home.

- Garrett

Offline zean

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 70
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Wall Switches
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2010, 01:03:38 am »
Leviton also sells color change kits for about $2.50 for the vizia rf line. I really like my black z wave Leviton dimmers.
vera 2 + 3; (2) tz43; (2) vrp03-1lw; (10) vrI06-1lx; ivera

Offline CMRancho

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1008
  • Karma: +1/-0
Re: Wall Switches
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2010, 09:41:32 am »
I have some of everything in my system. They all work but they are definitely not all created equal. In my home I find the Levitons to be the most responsive, flexible, and reliable. If you are extremely budget conscious, you'll be happy with the Intermatics and GEs. If you're a millionaire, buy Cooper. If you're on a budget, but looking for quality, then it's Leviton FTW.
Vera123beta; Schlage, Kwikset, TZEMT400; Linksys cams, Smarteye cams, HSM100; Aeon, Everspring, Cooper, Leviton, Intermatic, FortrezZ, Global Caché, USB-UIRT, Somfy, etc.

Offline MarkC

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 86
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Wall Switches
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2010, 10:34:31 am »
Thanks for all the advice folks, that really helps.

Mark

Offline tlueker

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 19
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Wall Switches
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2010, 03:42:17 pm »
I've got a mix of Leviton and Intermatic.  I went with the Leviton's for dimmers, three-way, four-way, and  and the Intermatic for basic switches.  I got the Intermatics on closeout last year for under $30 each, and paid about $65 for each Leviton dimmer.  Auxillary switches are much less, and scene controllers are much more.  I found the best prices on Leviton from tselectronic.com, but it was about a year ago when I made the big purchase. 

I've had some issues with Vera not recognizing the manufacturer for the Intermatics, sometimes it say's "Intermatic" and sometimes it says "Zensys".  But they still work.  The Leviton are definitely a better quality switch and come with three color choices "White, Ivory and Almond". 

Make sure you check the wiring for any 3-way or 4-way switches.  Some brands are very flexible while others are not.

Also, be sure that if you look at dimmers, you get switches rated for the correct wattage of all the lights you are dimming.
My network: Vera2, (2) Wayne Dalton ProDrive 3224C-Z (not connected yet), (7) Wayne Dalton/Intermatic HA18WD, (1) Leviton VRCS4-1L, (2) Leviton VRCZ4-1L, (3) Leviton VRI06-1L, (1) Leviton VRI10-1L, (3) Leviton VP00R-1L, (2) Leviton VRS05-1L, (4) Leviton VP0SR-10, ELK M1 w/Z-Wave, iPHONE

Offline mario23

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 281
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • V2|V3
Re: Wall Switches
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2010, 08:05:13 pm »
I have a mix of Leviton and GE and both work fine.  Leviton is definitely less finicky than the GE though.

I wish there were some more options for fan control...specifically fan/light combos!!!
Vera 3 Lite | Kwikset lever Lock (3) | 45609 ON/Off (9) | 45603 Module (1) | VRI10 Dimmer (1) | VP00R Match Dimmer (1) | VRI06 Dimmer (2) | VRS15 (5) | Intermatic HA01C Outlets (3) | Trane Thermostat | HSM100 3in1 Sensor | Foscam FI8905W ipcam (1) | Foscam FI8904W (2) | Foscam FI8918W (3)

Offline lescombs

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 83
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Wall Switches
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2010, 06:39:42 pm »
I purchased in excess of 20 Intermatic switches, and I had to return three in the last year. They're pretty good about honoring their warranty, and you don't have to get prior approval to return them. The warranty addresses is on the instructions. What really set me back where the low voltage light switches from Leviton. I think they were about 150 or 160 dollars each.
Vera2;6-HA04c outdr mods; 2 WD thermostats; Schlage lock; 7 GE 45606 dimrs; >20 HA06 dimmers; 4 Vizia Remote dimrs; 4 HA14 dimrs; 3 Leviton RZ1101L dimrs; HA18 15 amp switch; 3 VRM10-1L low volt dimrs; ; HRDS1 door sensor; 2 HRMD1 motion detector; iPhone; iPad; Dragon NatSpeaking

Offline strangely

  • Beta Testers
  • Master Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3722
  • Karma: +34/-2
  • Vera 1,3 & V light
Re: Wall Switches
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2010, 07:33:18 pm »
Ouch the leviton ones are expensive! :) The GE/Jasco relay based one would have worked if you didnt want dimming I guess?!
Kwickset locks, HA01C, HA14C, HA02C, HA03C, HA05C, HA04C, HA07C, HA09C, Aeon HEM, GE 45604, 45606, 45609, ZDP100, VRF01-1LZ, WDTC-20, HA18WD, WDHA-12R, HRDS1, HM-TS001, AC1-ZW, TV-IP110, BL-C210A, LUUP control- EtherRain8, DSC Alarm, HDMI matrix, HR24-200, Panasonic TV, SQblaster

Offline ballroller

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 286
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Wall Switches
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2010, 06:22:02 pm »
what exactly is the difference between those 2 switches? I am looking a buying a number of them, and don't see any difference.


.....................

By the way, the levition switch I am referring to is:
Leviton VRS15-1LX or Leviton VRS15-1LZ. They both offer three color plates e.g. almond, ivory or white.

...........

- Garrett

Offline zmistro

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 966
  • Karma: +1/-0
Re: Wall Switches
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2010, 08:23:41 pm »
from Leviton :

Ivory, White and Almond (-X) or Ivory, White and Light Almond (-Z).

Offline ballroller

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 286
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Wall Switches
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2010, 10:12:03 am »
Thanks. I saw almond twice and figured they were the same switch.

Offline zmistro

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 966
  • Karma: +1/-0
Re: Wall Switches
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2010, 12:23:26 pm »
I purchased in excess of 20 Intermatic switches, and I had to return three in the last year. They're pretty good about honoring their warranty, and you don't have to get prior approval to return them. The warranty addresses is on the instructions. What really set me back where the low voltage light switches from Leviton. I think they were about 150 or 160 dollars each.

Yea Low voltage are pricey in any brand or flavor. But remember if you have low voltage you will need a special dimmer. Damage to dimmer or light fixture will result. ( early failure)

Offline shady

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1331
  • Karma: +11/-0
  • This monkey knows his Window Coverings!
Re: Wall Switches
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2010, 03:15:50 pm »
I am considering the retrofit options that mount behind the standard switched that you already own, as an option.  I haven't been able to convince the wife with the current Z-Wave switch offerings, so it might be better to do it all behind the scenes.  I'll have to test one to see if I like it though.

Aeon Labs was showing some of these at CEDIA and WinTop has them for both US and Euro.  They aren't on the Aeon Labs site yet, but here is the link to Wintop (same idea):

http://www.wintop.com/switchdiy/product.php?catid=189

Vera3 1.5.346, Schlage (3)DB (2)Lever, Kwikset (1)Lever, RCS TZ43 Thermo, (2) Vizia RZI06-1LX 600W Dimmers, (17) Monster (Leviton) Dimmers (6) Monster (Leviton) IWC Scene Controllers (1) Etherrain-8, (3) HSM 100's (1)GE 3-Way set