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Re: "Play nice" devices list
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2017, 08:53:28 am »
Thank you for your contribution, Reneboer.
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Re: "Play nice" devices list
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2017, 06:16:34 pm »
Just added a couple of NEO Coolcam devices. Their power plugs (PN E-P16-A02-301) work, but when including them you must select the Generic Z-Wave device, do the inclusion as instructed (click button 3 times) and wait for the 60 second time to expire. Then pull the plug out of the socket, put it back in and the inclusion process will continue. Bit odd, but was the case with all three I added.

In my case it just got included without any tricks needed (EU version).
Have about 6 different units around the house

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Re: "Play nice" devices list
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2017, 06:27:37 pm »
What about devices which are known to work (they are on the list of pre-defined devices during pairing), but aren't mentioned in compatibility list on the website?

Like Fibaro Smoke sensor, Door Sensor (1), Universal Binary sensor...

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Re: "Play nice" devices list
« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2018, 03:13:38 pm »
Most of them works great (everything tested in EU version, most devices from my list are in everyday use, but some tests have not been very long till now).


door/window sensor:

Sensative Strips Guard (model Strips Ma-Zw)
works good

Schweiger ZHS09 Door/Window Sensor (probably branded Vision ZD2102)
works good, I can reccomend it for use with 2,3,4-leaf window (supports external passive sensors)

Zipato vs-zd2102.eu (probably branded Vision ZD2102)
works good, I can reccomend it for use with 2,3,4-leaf window (supports external passive sensors)

Fibaro FGK-10x (it means models from FGK-101 to FGK-107 - they differ only by casing colors)
works good, can be used also with external temperature sensor DS18B20 (or as 1-in binary sensor but it can't be used as dooor/window sensor in this config)

Aeotec ZW112 Door/Window Sensor 6 *
works good


door sensor:

Aeotec ZW089 Recessed Door Sensor Gen5*
works good, but hard to mount (fitting only specific door frame)


smart plug on/off:

NEO Coolcam NAS-WR01Z Power plug
works good

Aeotec ZW096 Smart Switch 6 *
works great

Fibaro FGWPE/F-102 ZW5
works great


smart plug dimmer:

Aeotec ZW099 Smart Dimmer 6 *
works great, but the only device I had, was selfdamaged after only half a year of use


LED RGBW bulbs:

Aeotec ZW098 LED Bulb Gen5 *
works good, but I do NOT reccomend this, because of an unpleasant shade of white light


LED white bulbs (on/off/dim):

Domitech ZE27EU *
works great, best shade of warm white (2700K)


multisensors:

Vision ZP3102eu-5 Security PIR Motion Sensor Gen5  (PIR+temp) *
works good, but temp is inaccurate (+-2 degrees C)

Aeon Labs ZW100 MultiSensor 6 (PIR+temp+humidity+light+UV+tamper) *
works great

Aeon Labs ZW074 MultiSensor Gen5 (PIR+temp+humidity+light) *
works good, but I do NOT reccomend this, this is obsolete product (powered by AAA batteries and drains them quick!)


remote controllers:

Nodon CRC-3-1-0x Octan Remote 4-key
works good

Nodon CRC-3-6-0x remote 4-key
works good

Nodon CWS-3-1-0x wall switch (remote) 4-key
works good

x - at Nodon means color of casing, 1=white

siren:

Popp POPE005107 External solar siren
works good, but needs to be exposed to Sun one day before installation or some days if they are cloudy (and has errors in manual, but real life installation is easier  then described)


smoke sensor:

Popp POPE004001 Smoke sensor with siren
works good

water leak sensor:

Everspring ST812 Flood Sensor
works good, but I do NOT reccomend this, this is obsolete product (powered by AA cells)

RFID:

Zipato wt-rfid.eu Mini RFiD Keypad
works good, but  I do NOT reccomend this, because of VERY high battery drain (and powered by AA batteries)


to be continued... (I will add much more devices to this list, when I will have more time)

I haven't check compatibility list a long time, so...
* - devices with asterisk near type/model are officially suported and could be find there:
http://getvera.com/compatibility/



There are some of devices which should be supported (in spite of I/others would or wouldn'n reccomend them because of other reasons), so there should be second list of devices, where Vera support could reply: "this device will not be supported"="don't buy it" or "we have this device in our future support plans"

short list of devices NOT working/working partially (some of them just need working template) - this list may not be actual (I'm copying this from my notes)
- D-Link DCH-Z510
- NEO Coolcam NAS-PD01Z PIR/light sensor
- NEO Coolcam NAS-PD02Z PIR/light sensor
- NEO Coolcam NAS-DS01Z door/window sensor
- NEO Coolcam NAS-WS01Z Water Sensor
- Fibaro Swipe
- Danfoss LC-13
- Eurotronic Comet Z
- Popp POPE005206 Z-weather (this is probably the only weather station with z-wave?)
- Popp POPE700168 pluviometer (as above)
- Zipato BULB2 (model: rgb2) this could be great - best shade of warm white (2700K), but out of the box works only as "on/off/dim"




And last thougt: about non-z-wave devices - last (december 2017) situation with plugins supporting ie. TP-Link, Yeelight or Broadlink devices shows me that I can NOT rely on  external plugins?
I've bought some of that devices when I saw working plugins, but now I'm alone with working stuff which could not be integrated with Vera (I'm not programmer...)
« Last Edit: January 09, 2018, 07:39:18 pm by szopen »

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Re: "Play nice" devices list
« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2018, 04:43:09 am »
Just added a couple of NEO Coolcam devices. Their power plugs (PN E-P16-A02-301) work, but when including them you must select the Generic Z-Wave device, do the inclusion as instructed (click button 3 times) and wait for the 60 second time to expire. Then pull the plug out of the socket, put it back in and the inclusion process will continue. Bit odd, but was the case with all three I added.

In my case it just got included without any tricks needed (EU version).
Have about 6 different units around the house
I found that I was not clicking the button fast enough to include. You really need to click three times fast.
However, by now I have blew out three of these. They do not seem to like being on the same line as TL lights. When without a load and you turn of the TL lights they may blow and take the fuses out too. So I will not buy them anymore.

Cheers Rene
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Re: "Play nice" devices list
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2018, 06:20:26 am »
When without a load and you turn of the TL lights they may blow and take the fuses out too. So I will not buy them anymore.

What are TL lights?
I didn't encounter such problems having various equipment connected to the plug (heater, led lamps, impulse charger, etc.)
However, some of the devices were stuck shortly after installing (no connection to the controller, red light on the unit). Unpluging and pluging again into the socked solved the problem and from that time no problems here (the oldest one has about 1 year)

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Re: "Play nice" devices list
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2018, 06:51:48 am »
When without a load and you turn of the TL lights they may blow and take the fuses out too. So I will not buy them anymore.

What are TL lights?
TL lighting is fluorescent tube lighting as used in offices or a garage in my case.

Cheers Rene
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Re: "Play nice" devices list
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2018, 11:08:11 am »
thermostat Popp POPE010101 (=danfoss with actual temperature display)
->inclusion as generic zwave device, no problem since 2 y
!! poll interval has to be set to 0 (otherwise every 2nd wakeup fails)

universal sensor Fibaro FGBS321
->inclusion as generic zwave device, no problem since 2 y

wall plug switch Popp POPE009006
->inclusion as generic zwave device, no problem since 1 y (but no inductive workload allowed)

wall dual relay Philio PAN06-1B and PAN06-1B (inductive workload works)
-> inclusion as generic zwave device, no problem since 2 y
!! factory reset only successfull without switch workload

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Re: "Play nice" devices list
« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2018, 10:18:52 am »
Has anynone tested the Philo Smart Dimmer Socket PAD02 ?
https://products.z-wavealliance.org/products/2355

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Re: "Play nice" devices list
« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2018, 05:31:33 am »
Devolo wall switch/controller (clone of the POPP 009303 wall controller)
Works fine with 4 buttons (short press), didn't manage it to respond to double or long press.

Should be similar for the keyfob (also a clone of POPP device)

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"Play nice" devices list
« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2018, 05:08:59 pm »
Did this list get updated with the most recent push?

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Re: "Play nice" devices list
« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2018, 07:56:05 am »
...wall dual relay Philio PAN06-1B and PAN06-1B (inductive workload works)
-> inclusion as generic zwave device, no problem since 2 y
!! factory reset only successfull without switch workload

Any idea how to do secure inclusion with Vera?

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Re: "Play nice" devices list
« Reply #42 on: June 01, 2018, 06:31:09 am »
...wall dual relay Philio PAN06-1B and PAN06-1B (inductive workload works)
-> inclusion as generic zwave device, no problem since 2 y
!! factory reset only successfull without switch workload

Any idea how to do secure inclusion with Vera?
It should do that when keeping to close enough (1 meter, 3 feet) to your Vera when including. It may not when it is further away and does a network inclusion via a third device.

Cheers Rene
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Re: "Play nice" devices list
« Reply #43 on: June 03, 2018, 10:00:38 pm »
...wall dual relay Philio PAN06-1B and PAN06-1B (inductive workload works)
-> inclusion as generic zwave device, no problem since 2 y
!! factory reset only successfull without switch workload

Any idea how to do secure inclusion with Vera?
It should do that when keeping to close enough (1 meter, 3 feet) to your Vera when including. It may not when it is further away and does a network inclusion via a third device.

Cheers Rene

Humor me but I actually experienced the opposite. Taking the device too close to the vera makes the secure key exchange fail because... the vera is too slow and the device sends its key faster than the vera can be ready to take it. I am now having to be at least 2 nodes away to be able to do a secure inclusion on some devices. This adds lag to the communication through the mesh which then gives the vera a chance to get the key. That being said, all the nodes in between need to support secure transmission too or it will just fail.
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Re: "Play nice" devices list
« Reply #44 on: June 04, 2018, 04:42:56 am »
...wall dual relay Philio PAN06-1B and PAN06-1B (inductive workload works)
-> inclusion as generic zwave device, no problem since 2 y
!! factory reset only successfull without switch workload

Any idea how to do secure inclusion with Vera?
It should do that when keeping to close enough (1 meter, 3 feet) to your Vera when including. It may not when it is further away and does a network inclusion via a third device.

Cheers Rene

Humor me but I actually experienced the opposite. Taking the device too close to the vera makes the secure key exchange fail because... the vera is too slow and the device sends its key faster than the vera can be ready to take it. I am now having to be at least 2 nodes away to be able to do a secure inclusion on some devices. This adds lag to the communication through the mesh which then gives the vera a chance to get the key. That being said, all the nodes in between need to support secure transmission too or it will just fail.
That sounds too 'funny' indeed. Weird for sure.
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