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Re: DSC plugin
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2011, 12:21:53 pm »
Thanks. Everything is within a few inches of each other on a little rack. I've got Vera hooked up to a netgear switch that also feeds the rest of the house. The switch is connected to the router and then to the cable modem. Does that mean I am better off with the USB to 232 adapter connected to the IT-100 and the Vera?

I noticed that the electrician selected a pretty cheap dsc (I should have supervised this purchase). We have 12 doors and 15 windows hard wired plus 2 glass breaks and 3 keypads. Should I upgrade the box to a better one (1864?)? It looks like he currently has this wired to 6 zones which won't give us a lot of information...

On the power, we have a backup generator that kicks on after 3-5 minutes so I was planning to put a battery backup in for all of this stuff to keep it going until the gen kicks on.

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Re: DSC plugin
« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2011, 05:55:47 pm »
You may want to consider either the 1832 or 1864 (you'll still need zone expanders also though)  as I think the 1616 only supports 16 hardwired zones and even then with the use of zone expanders. The key pads also support an extra zone or output.

Just be aware that if the contact switches have been wired in series, then you'll perhaps have to think about home running extra cabling to support the individual zones!

If your Vera is close, then go with the USB to serial adapter that I linked in my post as you won't have to worry about power to the WIZnet.
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Re: DSC plugin
« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2011, 06:18:52 pm »
Thanks! That is awesome. I will get to work on this and let you know how it goes... (Now if I could just find a decent dimmer switch that would work with our recessed LEDs  ???)

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Re: DSC plugin
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2011, 12:01:02 am »
Ouch!

Maybe look at dimming capable LED's?
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Re: DSC plugin
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2011, 12:37:24 am »
@ strangely...So I installed the IT100...custom made the alarm box to have the IT100 sit right below the alarm panel, the serial to usb is plugged in but Vera will not recognize that something is there. Could it be the USB to serial causing Vera not to recognize the alarm panel? I do have the DSC plugin already installed and have already done the reboot on the Vera. Thanks

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Re: DSC plugin
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2011, 01:06:29 am »
Here are some pointers to check:

Is the LED on the IT100 flashing?
Is your serial adaptor a supported one?
Have you configured the plugin to use the USB to serial adapter in the MiOS developers serial tab?

You may also need a null modem cable or adaptor between the USB serial adapter and the IT100. I have mine plugged in via a cat5 cable and DB9 adapters back to a wiznet at the moment and I cant remember if the cat5 adapters I have are either wired straight, or as a null modem! From memory when I had mine wired to a USB adapter it needed the null modem adapter.
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Re: DSC plugin
« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2011, 02:32:23 pm »
Here are some pointers to check:

Is the LED on the IT100 flashing?
Is your serial adaptor a supported one?
Have you configured the plugin to use the USB to serial adapter in the MiOS developers serial tab? Yes, configured the plugin and I now have tabs listed as partitions. I have no idea where to go from here.  ???

You may also need a null modem cable or adaptor between the USB serial adapter and the IT100. I have mine plugged in via a cat5 cable and DB9 adapters back to a wiznet at the moment and I cant remember if the cat5 adapters I have are either wired straight, or as a null modem! From memory when I had mine wired to a USB adapter it needed the null modem adapter.

The IT100 is blinking once a second.
Not entirely sure if my adapter us supported, its an I/O crest usb to DB9 adapter. Product 3726 on Monoprice.
I have configured the plugin (not sure if correct however) and I now have partitions that are editable. I simply have no idea what info to put in. I have "Away" "Stay" "No Delay" "w/Code" and "Disarm" all listed as options in one of these partitions but they do nothing when selected.

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Re: DSC plugin
« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2011, 03:25:41 pm »
Can you see the serial port when you go to MiOS developers and the serial port configuration tab? Its in there that you need to set it to use the plugin.

If you don't see your serial adapter listed in there, then it's likely that its not supported.
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Re: DSC plugin
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2011, 04:23:38 pm »
It shows PL2303 in the name field. Not sure if the attachment is visible but I added on in.

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Re: DSC plugin
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2011, 04:58:48 pm »
Ok that's good!
In the used by device dropdown where its currently written as "Serial_Portlist xxx..." you need to select the plugin which will be whatever the DSC is named as ( I renamed mine so not sure what it was).

You'll also need to change the baud rate to 9600 which should be IT100 default. Don't forget to save after changing both these items.
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Re: DSC plugin
« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2011, 01:14:43 pm »
Hey Strangely,

I changed everything over, saved, and still no dice. The issue must be in my settings within the Vera dashboard but I don't have a comprehensive way to tell if I have them right as Vera sees the DSC but won't control it. About 60% of the time I get the "Luup starting I/O" for that device but even then I dont have any control.

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Re: DSC plugin
« Reply #41 on: January 31, 2011, 03:25:29 pm »
Did you try a Null modem cable between the IT100 and your serial adapter ?

Null modem means the pins within the DB9 connectors have pins 2 and 3 (TX and RX) crossed so that the TX of one is connected to the RX of the other and vice versa. If you have a cable between the two then you should check how its wired.
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Re: DSC plugin
« Reply #42 on: February 01, 2011, 08:37:43 am »
I have a DSC PC4020 alarm panel and a PC4401 data link module.  After looking at the IT100 it looks like it is not for my DSC board but its function is similar to the PC4401.  Has anyone with a PC4020 tried to use the PC4401 to interface with Vera?  If not can someone who has the IT100 look at the PC4401 to see if there would be any compatibility problems using the DSC plugin with this hardware.

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Re: DSC plugin
« Reply #43 on: February 01, 2011, 12:25:34 pm »
From what I've read there isn't a world of difference, but none the less I guess theres enough to warrant different drivers when you look at other systems like charmed quark:

http://www.charmedquark.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=9606

Based on the above you have two options and thats to either edit the existing (or upcoming rewritten plugin). Do you have the developers guide for the PC4401?  Or alternately think about updating the panel to one of the power series ones perhaps? 
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Re: DSC plugin
« Reply #44 on: February 03, 2011, 12:52:55 pm »
Did you try a Null modem cable between the IT100 and your serial adapter ?

Null modem means the pins within the DB9 connectors have pins 2 and 3 (TX and RX) crossed so that the TX of one is connected to the RX of the other and vice versa. If you have a cable between the two then you should check how its wired.

I will have the null modem tonight and I'll give it a go! Hopefully I plug it in and it all plays nice. BTW thanks for all of your help on this. ;)