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Offline jonstrasser

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Re: Water shut off valve
« Reply #45 on: July 02, 2015, 09:28:16 pm »
Hi
I'm trying to setup my Fortrezz valve -
I changed the device type and device file to what's posted above.....but then I get no switches.    I changed it back and now I just have on/off - when set up as binary light, etc.   Is there a typo above?

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Re: Water shut off valve
« Reply #46 on: July 02, 2015, 11:05:37 pm »
Post some pictures of what you are seeing and post the exact steps you are taking.
What model and version of Vera are you using?

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Re: Water shut off valve
« Reply #47 on: July 03, 2015, 10:45:22 am »
There's a typo in the earlier post that says xmll.    Once corrected, it works as open/close - but still displays a light bulb in UI5 - is that correct?
Also, is there an easy way to set the timeout period to less than 60 minutes?  The manual says Parameter 1 - water level timeout - size:2 bytes, configuration value 1=0x0000 to 0x7FFF (0-32,767 minutes).   
To do that, would I set config settings to:
config variable:1    2 byte hex     3       - to get it to allow reopening after 3 minutes?

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Re: Water shut off valve
« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2015, 11:38:42 am »
meant 2 bytes dec - not hex in above post?

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Re: Water shut off valve
« Reply #49 on: July 04, 2015, 01:39:44 pm »
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Re: Water shut off valve
« Reply #50 on: July 14, 2015, 07:45:56 am »
an attractive price point as well

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Re: Water shut off valve
« Reply #51 on: July 14, 2015, 11:41:37 am »
Yeah got one installed on a drip irrigation system. It works well. A bit of work to install if your ball valve does not have a standard collar sizing but, I figured it out.
The biggest advantage of this is that you don't need to worry about not being able to turn the valve on or off in case of power outage: There is a bypass. It can also be on and off for a long time since it does not consume power after the valve is rotated unlike a solenoid.
A solenoid with a relay may have been a lot cheaper but would require to break the line... a bit more plumbing work. With this, I stayed dry.
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Re: Water shut off valve
« Reply #52 on: July 14, 2015, 11:58:39 am »
an attractive price point as well

No kidding.  I just saw the price of the WV-01 and about died!  >:(

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Re: Water shut off valve
« Reply #53 on: July 14, 2015, 01:11:08 pm »
Indeed, no justification for such a price. You can DIYa solenoid with:

solenoid valve off of ebay $15-$30 depending on size. You get to pick between normally open and closed and how to power it. If you go 110V AC, you don't need a transformer
A z-wave relay (Monoprice for $25 this week).
Miscellaneous wiring and power plug for $5

Total would be $65 tops.
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Re: Water shut off valve
« Reply #54 on: July 14, 2015, 04:16:56 pm »
But then it uses power to keep the valve open.
This only uses power to change state.

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Re: Water shut off valve
« Reply #55 on: July 14, 2015, 04:36:12 pm »
Yes as I explained above.
The options are:

DIY solenoid ~$65
The econet actuater $125
The Fortezz WV-01 ~$3-400

I was comparing the DIY solenoid with the WV01 went talking about pricing. I myself went with the econet which indeed has the advantage of still being able to turn on and off during power failure and also not having to do any plumbing work.
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Re: Water shut off valve
« Reply #56 on: July 14, 2015, 09:52:03 pm »
I myself went with the econet which indeed has the advantage of still being able to turn on and off during power failure and also not having to do any plumbing work.

Interesting. I assume the econet works fine with Vera. BTW, the WV-01 has a knob that can be opened/closed manually if power goes out.

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Re: Water shut off valve
« Reply #57 on: July 15, 2015, 10:03:58 am »
Yes it is a generic on/off switch.
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Re: Water shut off valve
« Reply #58 on: December 12, 2015, 03:28:26 pm »
After doing some analysis, i think i will buy a Fortrezz one instead of a diy solution or econet. I have a 1000$ a year budget for my fancy home automation. This valve will eat into 80% of my budget :(.

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Re: Water shut off valve
« Reply #59 on: December 13, 2015, 02:05:07 am »
After doing some analysis, i think i will buy a Fortrezz one instead of a diy solution or econet. I have a 1000$ a year budget for my fancy home automation. This valve will eat into 80% of my budget :(.

Why? What analysis?
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