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Re: Z-Wave AEON Labs Motor Controller
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2011, 03:01:50 am »
In a week my Merten controller to open/close my sunscreen  (motorized)  will arrive.
It should open /close and stop when released......
Will report back if it does as expected....
Maybe a good alternative if it does?
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Re: Z-Wave AEON Labs Motor Controller
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2011, 03:11:59 am »
Depends on where he lives I guess!?

I have Lagotek AC1-ZW (US) that @Shady hooked me up with. Its controlling my awning.

"it just works" ;)
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Re: Z-Wave AEON Labs Motor Controller
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2011, 03:18:45 am »
Depends on where he lives I guess!?

I have Lagotek AC1-ZW (US) that @Shady hooked me up with. Its controlling my awning.

"it just works" ;)

Duh! my mistake, i assumed Merten would be available for US use as well.... i stand corrected.... you're right @strangely!
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Re: Z-Wave AEON Labs Motor Controller
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2011, 03:22:59 am »
It would be nice if the manufactures sold more devices that worked in all flavours of Zwave and power etc.
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Re: Z-Wave AEON Labs Motor Controller
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2011, 03:23:46 am »
It would be nice if the manufactures sold more devices that worked in all flavours of Zwave and power etc.
I second that BIG time!!!
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Re: Z-Wave AEON Labs Motor Controller
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2011, 03:42:30 am »
I like the scrolling text, funny I never noticed that button before :)
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Re: Z-Wave AEON Labs Motor Controller
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2011, 08:20:21 pm »
Has anyone had any luck with these devices?

I am just about to ready to return it to the vendor for a refund.


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Re: Z-Wave AEON Labs Motor Controller
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2011, 05:38:06 am »
Readw.....Did you have anyluck with your motor controller?

I just purchased two (in Australia also) and I am having the same problem as you had but with mControl. Is there any software out there that works correctly with these motor controllers?

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Re: Z-Wave AEON Labs Motor Controller
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2011, 07:06:02 am »
No unfortunately no luck with this.

I have tried a number of times to contact Aeons Labs to get them to assit.   

Try emailing winston  wcheng@aeon-labs.com

Maybe if he is bombarded with email he might do something.

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Re: Z-Wave AEON Labs Motor Controller
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2011, 07:35:49 pm »
I have tried all possible combinations and timers , and scripts to initiate a partial closing , but failing miserably .

the micro motor controller follows the Class A Motor specification from Z wave.

it states the following:

0: direction A
99-100: direction B
1-98 : ignored

if the motor is going into direction A and u send 99, the motor should stop. ( in the case of the aeon labs micro motor, it goes automatically in the reverse direction)

if the motor is going into direction B and u send 0, the motor should stop. ( int the case of the aeon labs micro motor , it goes automatically in the reverse direction)

I know I am late to the party, and excuse me if this is obvious or known, but are you sure the Aeon device is using the Class A Motor Specification?  All Z-Wave motor controls that I know of use the Multi-level Switch Class, so they are esssentially dimming a motor to a certain position and using on for open and off for close.  Because it is using the Dimmable Switch Class there is no way to stop the motor typically, just as you can't 'stop' a dimmbale light.  There is a trick to acheiving a stop, possibly through scene deactivation or something because when I control the AC1-ZW that @Strangely mentions with an Aeon Labs' Minimote (a scene controller), you can stop the motor's movement by pressing and holding the scene button (to I assume deactivate the scene).  You have to time it just right to get the motor to stop 'near' where you want it, but it does stop.

I can't imagine that the sliding control for that device would work either.  The controller doesn't have load sensing like the AC1-ZW, so you can't run an automated calibration sequence to determine motor run time like you can on the ABMHZ or the AC1-ZW.  If the controller doesn't know the motor runtime, then it can't determine what 70% open should be.   Also without load sensing there is no way to return the relays to a neutral position after the motor reaches its internal limits, or be able to confirm movement that it reached its limit (the whole purpose of having Z-Wave motor controllers, for confrimation).   This is where a lot of people assume that a shading motor controller is just a set of relays, but there is some logic in there for calibration, logic to prevent both relays from being on at the same time, etc.  While Aeon Lab's device may not make a good motorized window covering controller as it is now, it should be a great set of Z-Wave relays and possibly an on command could provide sequential action for one relay and an off command for the other relay (toggling on/off states for each).
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Re: Z-Wave AEON Labs Motor Controller
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2011, 11:43:41 pm »
Thanks for the info chaps.

@readw...what other software have you tried?

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Re: Z-Wave AEON Labs Motor Controller
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2011, 11:56:44 pm »
Hi shady,  Is it possible to find out what specification the motor uses?

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Re: Z-Wave AEON Labs Motor Controller
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2011, 06:49:30 am »
Is it possible to find out what specification the motor uses?
I don't have any experience with this device, but found a manual a while back that seemed to indicate the Basic CC and Multilevel Switch CC, like at @shady suggested.

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Re: Z-Wave AEON Labs Motor Controller
« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2011, 05:44:27 pm »
Hi shady,  Is it possible to find out what specification the motor uses?

The motors used with these controllers are know as "standard motors" in the window covering industry.  They are bi-directional 4-Wire (2 Hot, 1 Neutral, 1 Ground) motors with internal limit switches.  Typically the relays inside the controllers can handle any size window covering motor.  One hot wire runs the shade in one direction, the other is for the other direction, cutting power stops the shade or when the shade hits its set limit an internal microswitch disconnects power to that directional wire (stopping the motor).

Load sensing on some controllers will sense when a motor reaches its limit and stops, and it will return the relay to a neutral position and report confirmation of stop via Z-Wave to Vera.
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Re: Z-Wave AEON Labs Motor Controller
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2011, 06:44:18 am »
Currently the device incorrectly shows up as a light dimmer and not a blind control.

If some way exists to show it up as a blind device it should work properly.  Any help to get to that state would be great.