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Offline teonebello

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UI5: New interface coming?
« on: June 15, 2011, 08:53:09 am »
Hi,

I saw that in the forum somebody is talking about the UI5.

Are there some news? Some screen shot? Release date?

Thank you!!!!
Matteo

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Re: UI5: New interface coming?
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2011, 04:37:40 pm »
@teonobello

How bout this thread:
http://forum.mios.com/index.php?topic=4801.0

And this page on UI development?
http://alexusart.com/ui5/

Hi,

I saw that in the forum somebody is talking about the UI5.

Are there some news? Some screen shot? Release date?

Thank you!!!!
Matteo

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Re: UI5: New interface coming?
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2011, 12:02:46 am »
I would love to see those interfaces integrated into Vera that are mentioned above, they look pretty slick.
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Re: UI5: New interface coming?
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2011, 02:55:58 pm »
Please take out all the clutter. The UI shouldn't look like the cockpit of a Boeing 747. People will run and Grandma gets confused.

Simple and minimalistic design please.
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Re: Re: UI5: New interface coming?
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2011, 08:52:59 pm »
Wow, v5 does not look good on Dolphin HD browser. The top weather plug is all messed up!

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Re: Re: UI5: New interface coming?
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2011, 08:55:50 pm »
Correction nor the android 2.3 stock browser either.

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Re: UI5: New interface coming?
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2011, 09:19:40 pm »
Please take out all the clutter. The UI shouldn't look like the cockpit of a Boeing 747. People will run and Grandma gets confused.

Simple and minimalistic design please.

I agree whole-heartedly, please think clean and functional.  Easy to read buttons/labels, intuitive icons, clean customizable layout, and easy to quickly monitor and check for status.  Get rid of any employee who suggests wild, garish colors or spaceship graphics (unless you use LCARS, Star Trek is OK by me, kidding) or wasting valuable screen space for rounded controls and/or oddly propagating pop-outs that borrow inspiration from nature.  Dump all of that, for a clean, highly polished version of UI4 or UI2.

The thing that really scares me about the propsed UI renderings, is that they seem to be just skins.  Nothing seems to be changing to make the menus better organized or more intuitive, it looks to be the same information, links, buttons as before with a bunch of crappy graphics over them.  No offense to anyone's hard work but it really should be designed by the people who are going to use it everyday.
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Re: UI5: New interface coming?
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2011, 09:30:11 pm »
When I load up the front page, I want to be able to check the status of a device, operate it, or run a scene within 2 seconds of loading. This has to be done within 1 or 2 clicks or I might as well walk over to the switch and manually do it.

It's also important that anyone not familiar with the system can easily identify and operate a device or run a scene.

A simple gear or wrench icon up in the top corner of the screen should be the single method to configure anything. It should almost be hard to find the settings page to reconfigure any of the interface.

Please keep the colors simple. Use proven color themes. Apple chose the Industrial theme for their devices because in an industrial environment things need to be easy to identify and there should very little room for user error. The industrial environment has proven itself effective for years. Long before Apple made it popular. Please mimic this design strategy. I want the items I am looking for to pop out at me. I don't want to hunt for anything. The current blue themes make me feel like a drunken frat boy stumbling through Las Vegas.
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Re: UI5: New interface coming?
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2011, 02:07:58 pm »
Enough with the fancy color scemes already. Fix the core system problems first !
This is another open-sores product. Endless discussions about UI , colorschemes and other irrelevant nonsense. Meanwhile the serious problems are not tackled.

- password security
- z-wave that doesn't work correctly
- dead links in the current UI4  ( trashcan does not work, eula is blank , some pages have missing images )
- nonexisting documentation , outdated wiki showing screenshots from older ui...
 

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Re: UI5: New interface coming?
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2011, 03:18:34 pm »
Enough with the fancy color scemes already. Fix the core system problems first !
This is another open-sores product. Endless discussions about UI , colorschemes and other irrelevant nonsense. Meanwhile the serious problems are not tackled.

- password security
- z-wave that doesn't work correctly
- dead links in the current UI4  ( trashcan does not work, eula is blank , some pages have missing images )
- nonexisting documentation , outdated wiki showing screenshots from older ui...
 

You're right Vincent. The product could quickly turn into a drag queen.
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Re: UI5: New interface coming?
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2011, 01:16:28 pm »
@vincentimple wholeheartedly agree, other than eye-candy I can't seem to find out any infor if UI5 core code is built using UI4 as a baseline or it's new core code with a whole set of new bugs and issues for the user community to resolve. Also has anyone seen a release date for UI5?
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Re: UI5: New interface coming?
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2011, 01:31:16 pm »
[...]other than eye-candy[...]
Sounds like UI5 will have some interesting conceptual changes:

[...]We also have an agency working on UI5.  You can preview the concepts here: http://alexusart.com/ui5/  the goal is to eliminate having all these separate UI's like we do now (ie local Ui4, cp.mios portal, separate energy and video archiving, etc.).  In this case there's 1 and only 1 UI which blends both the local stuff and online stuff together, so it's exactly the same whether you access it remotely or locally.  For example, to view the device properties now you go to a local UI.  To view the device's events, you log onto cp.mios.  This confuses users to no end.  So now they're all in the device control and if you're operating locally without a cp.mios account, the 'event' tab just prompts you to login to your account.
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Re: UI5: New interface coming?
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2011, 08:14:42 pm »
I bought into Vera 18 months ago at UI2, numerous firmware versions ago, and a set of painful memories on failed upgrades since then.  Change is good but only once you have a totally solid foundation upon which to build.   Having gone thru the UI2 -> UI3 -> UI4 dance, I'm dreading a potential repeat performance. 

Vera needs a totally solid and dependable platform with well written documentation and a highly intuitive interface.   If that can truly happen in conjunction with UI5, I'm behind you 100%.  But your history has me ... skeptical.   

The concept behind UI5 looks very promising.  Just be sure it is *all* rock solid before making it available outside a formal and bounded beta program.

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Re: UI5: New interface coming?
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2011, 03:40:35 pm »
I would love to see those interfaces integrated into Vera that are mentioned above, they look pretty slick.
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Re: UI5: New interface coming?
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2011, 01:25:14 pm »
@MCV, any news as to were VERA is at with UI5 in regards to development, testing and release date?
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