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Help with Roller motors
« on: July 06, 2011, 02:19:52 pm »
will someone help with which roller motors work with ESI ABMHZ & ESI DBMZ, Eu verson ?

is there a specific model from Somfy or other brands where it will work with this ?

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Re: Help with Roller motors
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2011, 07:33:03 pm »
What you want to use are called "Standard Motors" (aka dumb motors).  For the ABMHZ you would use a 4-Wire Standard AC Motor.  For the DBMZ you would use a DC 2-Wire Motor.  Both motors should have mechanical limit buttons on them (at the motor head).  The good news is that Standard Motors are the least expensive.  With Somfy an AC Motor would be the 504S2 (not Altus, not RTS, not ILT) and for DC you'd use their LT-28 or a DC Simu Motor from their sister company Simu.  The sky is the limit really with motor choices as there are now a lot of motors coming out of China. 

The ABMHZ and DBMZ are motor controllers, so you just want to make sure that the motor you buy DOES NOT have an internal controller.  Radio controlled motors and Smart motors all have internal controllers and WILL NOT work with the Z-Wave Motor Controllers.   You can use a Somfy ILT or Sonesse 30 RS485 with their Z-Wave add-on (which isn't really a controller, but more like an interface).  The ABMHZ and DBMZ use internal relays to switch the power of the motor to operate it up/down, so that is why you need a Standard Motor (either AC or DC for the appropriate controller) which is a motor that would typically be operated by a hard-wired switch or wired to a controller.

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Re: Help with Roller motors
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2011, 02:27:04 am »
hey

Thanks alot for the info, very helpful and detailed.

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Re: Help with Roller motors
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2011, 04:38:01 pm »
I'm thinking of adding some powered blinds, most likely Somfy as they have people near by and are actually made not far from me.

If I understand the above correctly I should get a blind with a "standard motor" (i.e no control system) and then get a zwave blind switch to control it, is that correct ?

If it's a venitian type blind would there be one motor for up / down and one for open / close of slats ?

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Re: Help with Roller motors
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2011, 04:59:13 pm »
You are correct, that if you want to use a Z-Wave shade motor controller you need to use it with a Standard 4-Wire motor.  You can buy your own Z-Wave controllers online and get the shades from your guy.

Venetian blinds are motorized one of two ways, either lift and tilt or tilt only.  Lift and tilt is generally handled by a tubular motor similar to what is used with roller shades and it should be easy to get a standard version of that motor.  Tilt only is handled by a smaller motor which means it fits in a slightly smaller headrail.  You might have a bit more of a challenge getting standard motors for Venetian or slatted blinds, but it is still possible.  A lot of Somfy's stuff is RTS or their Radio Technology Somfy so those motors have internal radio controllers that are not compatible with Z-Wave or external controllers (in the near future Somfy should be releasing a Z-Wave to RTS bridge to make integration possible).
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