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Offline cybrmage

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Re: Honeywell Ademco Vista Alarm Panels Plugin via AD2USB
« Reply #900 on: January 28, 2015, 02:49:42 pm »
Cybrmage,
I have the Vista 20P.  Would that be difficult to setup?  I pretty much have everything setup the way I like it,  except for the motion detector not working when in stay mode.  Would it involve just going into zone programming and switch the partition to "2"? Could the AD2USB be used for 2 partitions?  I would want the motion detectors to arm in "away" mode.

It's not difficult... BUT you can not get a sensor report in an armed partition...  in any armed mode...

so either place the sensor in your unused partition 2 and have it monitor only, or place it in the used partition 1 and only monitor it when the partition is disarmed...

The only way to get what you want is with two motion sensor (rather expensive is you are using wireless)... You stated that you are using a wired motion sensor... If you have an unused zone then you can jumper the motion sensor input from the existing zone terminal to the unused zone terminal... This will cause the motion sensor to fault both zones when tripped... The original zone is in partition 1 and will trip the alarm when the partition is armed... The (formerly) unused zone you will program to partition 2, and it will fault even when partition 1 is armed (as long as you don't arm partition 2).

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Re: Honeywell Ademco Vista Alarm Panels Plugin via AD2USB
« Reply #901 on: January 28, 2015, 03:15:33 pm »
Cybrmage,
Thanks for the information.  Not sure what I'm going to do.  I do have 2 wired zones available.  Would the AD2USB be able to listen to both partitions at the same time?
Would I be able to leave my two 6160 keypads set on partition 1? 

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Re: Honeywell Ademco Vista Alarm Panels Plugin via AD2USB
« Reply #902 on: January 28, 2015, 03:38:22 pm »
Cybrmage,
Thanks for the information.  Not sure what I'm going to do.  I do have 2 wired zones available.  Would the AD2USB be able to listen to both partitions at the same time?
Would I be able to leave my two 6160 keypads set on partition 1?

The AD2USB should be able to listen to all available partition simultaneously (The EVL3 does), as it listens to keypad messages from the panel and the plugin does support multiple partitions...

Yes, you will be able to leave your existing panels set as they are.... It is actually better to leave them, as you will not be able to accidentally arm the "monitor" partition that way.

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Re: Honeywell Ademco Vista Alarm Panels Plugin via AD2USB
« Reply #903 on: January 29, 2015, 04:47:56 pm »
I think I might just switch the motion detector over to partition 2 in zone programming.  That way when I arm partition 1 in "stay" mode I should be able use the motion detector to trigger scenes I've created in vera(Vista 20P doesn't use the motion detector in "stay" mode anyways).  And when I leave my home I would arm both zones in "away" mode(No ones home so no need to trigger scenes).  A couple of questions though for anybody that knows the answer.  Would I have to go into the AD2USB plugin and change the number of partition settings under the advance tab to 2 or since the zone already existed before the plugin would still recognize it? Also, is there a way to arm both zones in "away" mode with a function key?  I don't plan on having a dedicated Keypad for partition 2.  Thanks for any help.

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Re: Honeywell Ademco Vista Alarm Panels Plugin via AD2USB
« Reply #904 on: January 29, 2015, 05:19:05 pm »
There is a way to make the AD2USB see a sensor trip when the panel is armed. I have not done it myself but if you go back 30 or 40 pages there is some talk about enabling the virtual relay feature of the AD2USB.  I'm on my phone so it's not so easy to find.

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Re: Honeywell Ademco Vista Alarm Panels Plugin via AD2USB
« Reply #905 on: January 30, 2015, 10:15:57 am »
Thanks SteveZ, I found it.  Not sure what I'm going to do though.  I think just changing my motion detectors over to partition 2 would be easier than
making all the changes to the settings on the alarm panel and the AD2USB.  I feel I could easily mess something up making all those changes. 

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Re: Honeywell Ademco Vista Alarm Panels Plugin via AD2USB
« Reply #906 on: January 30, 2015, 11:55:11 am »
Yeah that's one of the reasons I never did it. I got a wireless motion sensor and just use that because that will report when the panel is armed, and it doesn't even need to be enrolled into the panel if you don't want it to be, just enter in the serial and loop numbers into the cheat sheet and it will work.

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Re: Honeywell Ademco Vista Alarm Panels Plugin via AD2USB
« Reply #907 on: January 30, 2015, 12:06:03 pm »
You can have motion sensors that trigger when the Vista panel is armed.  It requires you to configure relays, which although not difficult it does require some work.  Everything you need is in this thread.  I have 7 Honeywell sensors ( 3 outdoor and 4 indoor) configured as zone type 23 (no alarm response - don't call the monitoring center) in my Vista 20p panel and everything works great.  I use PLEG to control motion-lights with all the sensors plus a simple perimeter alarm with the outdoor sensors. As mentioned before, the alarm sensors are much more reliable than the z-wave models.

JP

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Re: Honeywell Ademco Vista Alarm Panels Plugin via AD2USB
« Reply #908 on: February 01, 2015, 04:17:17 pm »
Not sure that i am using the most efficient method, but...I am using the authomation plugin to arm/disarm my system.  My issue is with stay mode.  The selection for stay actually says "iStay" and does nothing when selected.  Is this misspelled on purpose?  Would it also be misspelled in the actual command?  "Stay Instant" and "Night Instant" work fine, but they do not have an entry delay timer.  Thanks.

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Re: Honeywell Ademco Vista Alarm Panels Plugin via AD2USB
« Reply #909 on: February 15, 2015, 11:44:38 am »
Hi All,
Still trying to trigger an event when I open the door and the alarm is armed. Setting up relayes and following all the various threads fixed 90%.
The issue is (I Think): When opening the front door while armed, the AD2USB does NOT throw the relay message - it simply shows ""DISARM SYSTEM   or alarm occurs ""

So I can't trigger on my front door while armed because entry delay isn't caught by the plugin and no virtual relay is tripped? Am I correct and, if so, is there anything I can do? I have no free zones in my box to jumper to like was just suggested above.

Here's the raw data from the AD2USB as seen by Vera:
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Open and Close Front Door
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[1000000110000000----],008,[f700000f1008001c28020000000000]," DISARMED CHIME   Ready to Arm  "
!REL:12,01,01
[0000030110000000----],001,[f700000f1001030028020000000000],"FAULT 01                        "
!REL:12,01,00
[1000000110000000----],008,[f700000f1008001c28020000000000]," DISARMED CHIME   Ready to Arm  "
--

Open and Close Front Door while ARMED
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[0010000110000000----],008,[f700000f1008008c28020000000000],"ARMED ***STAY***                "
=== This is where I opened my door ===
[0011050110000000----],008,[f700000f1008058c28020000000000],"DISARM SYSTEM   or alarm occurs "
[0011050110000000----],008,[f700000f1008058c28020000000000],"DISARM SYSTEM   or alarm occurs "
=== This is where I disarm the alarm ===
[0001010110000000----],008,[f700000f1008010c28020000000000]," DISARMED CHIME Hit * for faults"
!REL:12,01,00
--
Thanks,
Mike
« Last Edit: February 15, 2015, 11:51:16 am by Stefam »

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Re: Honeywell Ademco Vista Alarm Panels Plugin via AD2USB
« Reply #910 on: February 16, 2015, 11:38:19 am »
As an FYI I updated to firmware 1.7.961 and the serial proxy is still broken.  The workaround I posted earlier still works but the update blows away the changes so they have to be re-applied after the update:
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,7266.msg209964.html#msg209964

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Re: Honeywell Ademco Vista Alarm Panels Plugin via AD2USB
« Reply #911 on: February 18, 2015, 09:32:40 pm »
You do not need new firmware for your AD2USB, you almost never need new firmware for AD2USB - at this point we're only adding support for new panels and matching featuresets with ademco.  Other than some things I'm hesitant to talk about just yet and are a long time from now to come, you won't need to update your firmware.  2.2a.6 is stable and "feature complete"
Relay support for SE panels is relatively new.   Most of you with newer panels won't need an update to get that working.

Quite true, I forgot we added that in the newest betas.
Could someone please confirm that Virtual Relay support is added for 20SE (ADT Safewatch Pro 2000) in the latest beta 2.2a.8? I updated my AD2USB to this beta firmware, went into config and enabled virtual relays (set "Y" for all four) but when I go to programm *79 I get "Not Used EE" displayed. Do I need to do anything else to enable them in AD2USB or are they not supported on 20SE? Thanks

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Re: Honeywell Ademco Vista Alarm Panels Plugin via AD2USB
« Reply #912 on: February 20, 2015, 04:42:05 pm »
Virtual relays for SE panels were added in that beta, yes - you will need to program your alarm accordingly.

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Re: Honeywell Ademco Vista Alarm Panels Plugin via AD2USB
« Reply #913 on: February 22, 2015, 02:19:51 pm »
Virtual relays for SE panels were added in that beta, yes - you will need to program your alarm accordingly.
Thanks for the confirmation. The menus on 20SE are apparently very different from 20P so that was why *79 was not working. If someone has panel programming experience, I would really appreciate some help on adding a virtual relay for one motion sensor. Since the menus are different from what is outlined for 20P in nutech thread, I am a bit lost with 20SE *80 and *81 options. I tried to follow the manual but it is not clear to me. Could really use some help from someone with more experience.

My *80 and *81 menus looks like in the attachment. My motion detector that I want to add virtual relay for is Zone#5 and I have only one partition.

Link to full programming manual for 20SE is here. Any assistance/hints would be really appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: Honeywell Ademco Vista Alarm Panels Plugin via AD2USB
« Reply #914 on: February 23, 2015, 03:13:17 pm »
Progress! I think I was able to figure it out and I am now getting messages in my log when alarm is armed to stay and the motion sensor is tripped. When it is tripped, I get this message:

!REL: 01,01,01

and when it is untripped I get this in the log:

!REL: 01,01,00

So I think it is setting the relay correctly. To add this virtual sensor to Vera plugin what do I enter in the cheat sheet? Is the first "01" serial and the second "01" loop value?