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mcoulter

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What is going on at Lowe's?
« on: March 11, 2012, 03:34:59 am »
Is anyone following the news with the Lowe's Iris system that is slated to come out the middle of this year?  I am wondering if this is something altogether new or if Lowe's is just rolling the Schlage/Trane equipment into a centralized brand umbrella.  Just seems strange that they would push out their own units when they are already carrying the Schlage products.  Any one know for sure?

http://djcoregon.com/news/2012/03/07/new-device-allows-affordable-remote-control-of-home-energy/

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Re: What is going on at Lowe's?
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2012, 04:32:47 am »
jeeej another clone of the vera
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Re: What is going on at Lowe's?
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2012, 07:51:02 pm »
jeeej another clone of the vera
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Lol, I know my first post shouldn't be antagonizing someone. . . .but really? There are not even any specs released yet, you sound like a Vera fanboy.

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Re: What is going on at Lowe's?
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2012, 08:26:22 am »
jeeej another clone of the vera
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Lol, I know my first post shouldn't be antagonizing someone. . . .but really? There are not even any specs released yet, you sound like a Vera fanboy.

It doesn't take being a Vera fan to add 2+2.  At CES, everyone saw what MCV was capable of doing at this price point and jumped on it with their own products.  Some of the companies emerging as competitors have massive R&D budgets.

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Re: What is going on at Lowe's?
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2012, 09:38:31 am »
jeeej another clone of the vera
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Lol, I know my first post shouldn't be antagonizing someone. . . .but really? There are not even any specs released yet, you sound like a Vera fanboy.

It doesn't take being a Vera fan to add 2+2.  At CES, everyone saw what MCV was capable of doing at this price point and jumped on it with their own products.  Some of the companies emerging as competitors have massive R&D budgets.

That may well be the case, but it is more likely that they have been working on it for awhile. Companies, even big corporations, don't throw stuff like this together in a few months just because they have "massive R&D budgets."

More importantly, the post is merely whining based on an assumption, adds zero to the thread, and fails to provide any additional insight to the OP's inquiry.

I might add, that I do in fact own a Veralite, so it is not like I'm siding with a particular vendor here  :)

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Re: What is going on at Lowe's?
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2012, 05:53:56 pm »
I'm under the impression that this isn't MCV's first CES show.  It's been what, about 3 years since Vera1?

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Re: What is going on at Lowe's?
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2012, 05:24:25 pm »
Well then,  I'll just answer my own questions :)

Apparently, Lowe's is developing a solution with a UK-based company called AlertMe.  Strangely all the info I have found on AlertMe points to Zigbee technology.  So I am not sure if Lowe's is pushing that platform now. That could be rough on Z-Wave with Zigbee getting a big push from Lowe's... or maybe just good competition. 

Also, Belkin is getting into the game but I am not sure what communication technology will be used in there WeMo solution either: http://www.belkin.com/wemo/

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Re: What is going on at Lowe's?
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2012, 06:16:20 pm »
Various news agencies reported that the Belkin Wemo uses Wifi as the comms medium instead of ZigBee or Z-Wave.  If true, it removes one layer of "bridging-networks" from the infrastructure in the home.
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Re: What is going on at Lowe's?
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2012, 06:36:45 pm »
They have seemingly lined up GE/Jasco for the z-wave for this Iris system together with Pella windows for controllable blinds between the glass. Should be interesting if it is z-wave which should help drive down the cost. I doubt that their solution will have the flexibility to add some of the devices that can be controlled by Vera via plugins.

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Re: What is going on at Lowe's?
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2012, 02:29:32 am »
well yes im a fan-boy (38 years old but hey im fine being called a boy lol) 
i even write the dutch and german translations for mcv as we speak. so yes, to answer your question. it is build on a z-wave.me alike software with z-wave/zigbee hardware. it is build on z-wave and all the new outcoming systems gives us vera people the benefit that this devices they produce as side-hardware are also of use to the vera. This is very good for the market. the zigbee system is nice and vera can also talk to this, so do major brand clones. zigbee is open source version,  it can do nearly as much as the big company supported z-wave. heck even LG dumped their zigbee plans and goes z-wave. zigbee is bound to die early, allmost 4 years have past and nothing come out.
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Re: What is going on at Lowe's?
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2012, 10:59:12 am »
So has anyone picked up an Iris device and paired it with Vera?  The Smart Plug (which says it has energy monitoring) seems like a good deal at $30.  The only competitive product that I know of is the Aeon Labs/Mi Casa verde SmartSwitch for $60.  The motion sensor ($25) and door sensor ($20) look good, too.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_388564-41166-SPG902_0__?productId=3735315

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Re: What is going on at Lowe's?
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2012, 12:58:12 pm »
Is it possible it uses both Zigbee and Z-wave??
I might pick up a sensor tonight on my way home...
This is from their website:

How Iris Works
The Iris Hub captures signals put out by smart home devices. When you connect the Iris Hub to your home's broadband router, you're creating a net of devices that can talk to each other and pass messages to and from the hub. If you have WiFi, Iris can use that, too, for Iris compatible WiFi devices. The Iris Hub relays smart home device signals to the Iris cloud and from there they can be accessed and controlled via your smartphone or web-connected tablet or computer.
Iris takes advantage of multiple well-proven technologies: Z-wave, ZigBee and WiFi. Since different devices use different technologies, using these most popular technologies means Iris can control a broader array of devices than competitors. That's why it's so easy to add new devices to your smart home — Iris uses the technology appropriate for each device. Look for the "Works with Iris" logo on smart devices before you buy.
Your devices maintain contact with the Iris Hub, sending signals as required. If a device is triggered, for example a contact sensor triggered by a door opening, the device immediately sends a signal to the Iris Hub where it is sent to the cloud and processed based on instructions you have set up.
Iris uses the cloud to remember all your instructions and send each device instructions via Z-wave, ZigBee, or WiFi signal (depending on which protocol the device uses). When alerts are triggered, Iris can send email, text and voice messages to you and your designated contacts' smartphones, tablets, or computers.
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Re: What is going on at Lowe's?
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2012, 01:14:26 pm »
So has anyone picked up an Iris device and paired it with Vera?  The Smart Plug (which says it has energy monitoring) seems like a good deal at $30.  The only competitive product that I know of is the Aeon Labs/Mi Casa verde SmartSwitch for $60.  The motion sensor ($25) and door sensor ($20) look good, too.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_388564-41166-SPG902_0__?productId=3735315

Not to mention the GE switches; $35 is at least $10 cheaper than I have ever seen them before, assuming they are the standard z-wave switches.

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Re: What is going on at Lowe's?
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2012, 01:21:40 pm »
So has anyone picked up an Iris device and paired it with Vera?  The Smart Plug (which says it has energy monitoring) seems like a good deal at $30.  The only competitive product that I know of is the Aeon Labs/Mi Casa verde SmartSwitch for $60.  The motion sensor ($25) and door sensor ($20) look good, too.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_388564-41166-SPG902_0__?productId=3735315

Not to mention the GE switches; $35 is at least $10 cheaper than I have ever seen them before, assuming they are the standard z-wave switches.

I am sure that the GE dimmers are Z-wave.
Look at this manual, it is modifies (says Iris) however if you read through it you will notice that the model number changes and it should be representing their normal Z-Wave dimmer....
http://www.lowes.com/campaign/iris/pdf/45639%20manual%20ENG.pdf

Also, the repeater is both Zigbee and Z-wave.
The Iris system should be available at my local store so I will definitely check it out!
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Re: What is going on at Lowe's?
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2012, 01:27:27 pm »
Is it possible it uses both Zigbee and Z-wave??
I might pick up a sensor tonight on my way home...

The hub I believe supports both, but I highly doubt that individual devices would support both protocols as that would add quite a bit to their price tag.  As for picking one up, all the Lowe's near me don't have it stocked yet, so if yours has it then please let us know!  The press release says they will have it in 500 stores by the end of August.  I'm tempted to pay the extra for shipping just to check it out and return it to the store if it doesn't work but I'd figure I'd at least ask here first.

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