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New Veralite - Thermostat opinions?
« on: March 14, 2012, 08:41:51 pm »
Sorry if this has been beaten to death but I figured I would ask the very knowledgeable group on this forum. I need 2 and I have 24V powered HVAC units.

I have found 3 possible Themostats that seem to be front runners, one very cheap and not very useful without the veralite running scenes
GE Z-Wave ($65 including shipping)
http://www.safemart.com/GE-Security-Wireless/GE-Z-Wave-Wireless-Thermostat-IS-ZW-TSTAT-100.htm?utm_source=gbase
Doesn't look like it does much more than min low max high temp at the unit itself, does 24V and has battery backup.

2Gig ($88)
http://www.amazon.com/2-Gig-Go-Control-2GIG-ZStat/dp/B007C8U0H6
Seems to only run off of batteries and doesn't do local scheduling if hooked to Z wave scheduling

Trane ($130)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0052MHPP4/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B007C8TWNE&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0VH1VMXAD87887F8KDGX
Seems to be able to do both ZWave and local scheduling and runs off of the 24 volts I have.

So I could get 2 of the GE ones for the price of 1 Trane, not sure if that is worth it if it doesn't work well.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: New Veralite - Thermostat opinions?
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2012, 09:09:01 pm »
I can not vouch for the GE or 2GIG, but I own the trane tstat and have not had any issues with it. Schedules can be set via either the tstat or via Vera. It has been operating my heating and cooling for almost two years. Search around as you can find them a little cheaper. Have a look around ebay as well. Another option would be to check out the 3M wifi tstat. A user by the name of: hugheaves created a plugin that can communicate with the tstat. It can be had for under 100.

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Re: New Veralite - Thermostat opinions?
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2012, 10:04:49 pm »
Thanks for the info.

I forgot this one
CA8900 Zwave Thermostat ($45)
http://www.automatedoutlet.com/Specials/CA8900-Zwave-Thermostat
looks functional as well.

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Re: New Veralite - Thermostat opinions?
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2012, 03:41:17 am »
I have the Trane and the CT30; and prefer the Trane over the CT30. The Trane's report changes you make locally on the t-stat instantly (and as you said, can run the local schedule and Z-Wave access simultaneously).
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Re: New Veralite - Thermostat opinions?
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2012, 06:39:50 am »
Sorry if this has been beaten to death but I figured I would ask the very knowledgeable group on this forum. I need 2 and I have 24V powered HVAC units.

I have found 3 possible Themostats that seem to be front runners, one very cheap and not very useful without the veralite running scenes
GE Z-Wave ($65 including shipping)
http://www.safemart.com/GE-Security-Wireless/GE-Z-Wave-Wireless-Thermostat-IS-ZW-TSTAT-100.htm?utm_source=gbase
Doesn't look like it does much more than min low max high temp at the unit itself, does 24V and has battery backup.

2Gig ($88)
http://www.amazon.com/2-Gig-Go-Control-2GIG-ZStat/dp/B007C8U0H6
Seems to only run off of batteries and doesn't do local scheduling if hooked to Z wave scheduling

Trane ($130)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0052MHPP4/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B007C8TWNE&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0VH1VMXAD87887F8KDGX
Seems to be able to do both ZWave and local scheduling and runs off of the 24 volts I have.

So I could get 2 of the GE ones for the price of 1 Trane, not sure if that is worth it if it doesn't work well.

Thanks in advance.

I have been using the CT30 for a while now. I would suggest going with the Trane. While I like the design of the CT30 and the Touchscreen better, I have to set up an automatic Poll via Vera in LUUP  in order for the CT30 to work properly (VeraLight and UI5). Otherwise the CT30 will just stop talking to Vera after a couple of hours (which I think is caused by the Z-wave dongle in the CT30). Anyways.... still like my CT30 :)

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Re: New Veralite - Thermostat opinions?
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2012, 07:53:43 pm »
Hey Puap (and anyone else),

What did you decide to go with?  I am also a new Vera Lite user and am interested in getting the best value Thermostat.

Is the consensus that the Trane is best?

Any opinions on the Honeywell Z-Wave?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005EJ7YO2/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_z3uApb1GHFRXX

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Re: New Veralite - Thermostat opinions?
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2012, 08:06:33 pm »
Is the consensus that the Trane is best?
Make sure the Trane will work for your actual HVAC setup; and that you have the 24V available.

What I also like about the Trane is the dot matrix display with the ambient temperature as a big fat number, and the status/mode LEDs.

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Re: New Veralite - Thermostat opinions?
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2012, 11:25:44 am »
Hey Puap (and anyone else),

Is the consensus that the Trane is best?

Any opinions on the Honeywell Z-Wave?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005EJ7YO2/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_z3uApb1GHFRXX

I originally bought the Honeywell when I bought my Vera II but when I hooked it up it did not work correctly.  I could pair it with Vera and everything, but it actually didn't control my system correctly.  Turned on the furnace when in "Cool" mode.  I tried contacting Honeywell for help but since I'm not a dealer they wouldn't even talk to me.  Returned the Honeywell, bought the Trane, paired it with the Vera and it's been working great ever since (about 6 months or so now).

I highly recommend the Trane (from the available Z-wave choices).

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Re: New Veralite - Thermostat opinions?
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2012, 08:47:47 pm »
Just quoting @smilligan:
I guess i am spoiled by the performance of the TRANE EMS..

So i am sure the next question is "Well, then why are you using CT30 instead of Trane"
And the reason is because the CT30 is more versatile .   It has dry contacts or 24vAC capability on "Y" thereby making it a great thermostat for controlling "mini splits" that accept dry contact to "call for cool".   Also, the CT30 can be used with 24vAC, 24vDC or Battery.   Making it a "one thermostat" fits all of our hotel applications.   Yes, we could use relays with TRANE but this drives up the integration and support costs.

After two+ months of testing the CT30 with zWave uSnap module we continue to experience problems. [...]

Here are the results of our tests:
1) zWave communication stops:   This requires a physical visit to the t-stat to reset (button or power recycle; but power recycle will only work if not using battery).   This seems to happen at least once every two weeks.
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Re: New Veralite - Thermostat opinions?
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2012, 08:27:02 pm »
Thanks for all the replies.

I bought the Trane thermostats, I haven't hooked them up yet, I'll post results when I do. From all the research I did the only negative thing I saw about the Trane thermostats was something about a 55 degree minimum temperature.

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Re: New Veralite - Thermostat opinions?
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2013, 08:50:26 am »
Any news? Just got the VeraLite and was going to get the Trane TZEMT400BB3...

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Re: New Veralite - Thermostat opinions?
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2013, 10:52:18 pm »
I really hope you have better success than I did with the Trane.   A lot of people have success.

 However, my two BB32 thermostats have been terrible on the zwave side. They work fine as thermostats, however I have been having serious problems on the control side with both of my thermostats falling off the network within a couple of days and requiring a reboot.
I can handle bugs sometimes.  However, Trane's support is completely non-existent.   If you can find their support number and eventually call, the very friendly but non-helpful support representative cheerfully refers you to a Trane dealer that "can support and fix the firmware" .. When you call a dealer, they expect you to authorize an expensive service call to look at your thermostat for warranty support.   

I will eventually just move to the Nest. It is more expensive, Wifi only, and the plugin is a bit of a hack.  However, even if Vera support eventually fails because they change their API, I still end up a with a great device, good community, and a high WAF for the home.  I may lose the zwave repeater functionality, but I can work around it with other devices.
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Re: New Veralite - Thermostat opinions?
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2013, 02:57:43 pm »
Vera 2 is running a Trane TZEMT400BB3 just fine. I just bought an elusive TZEMT500BB3 today to replace it. I have a dual fuel hvac and the 400's wont work with it. I have to swap it out before heating season.
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Re: New Veralite - Thermostat opinions?
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2013, 11:13:30 pm »
what firmware do you have on the current Trane TZEMT400BB3 ?
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