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General / Re: Goodbye Vera
« Last post by rafale77 on June 19, 2018, 10:42:28 pm »

Good Luck!

I ran with Home Assistant for a while with Vera as the device controller.  A VeraPlus with NO apps and only devices runs ok.  I had issues with Home Assistant controlling devices that Open Zwave does NOT currently support.  (Barrier Class Devices.... ie Garage Door).  The support is coming and it's in Beta... but just FYI.  Home Assistant is great, but it's still in massive development mode and it's hard to pin down a stable release.  But it's fun to mess with I still have HA on an rPI.

I have since moved on to HomeSeer and I wrote a plugin to interface with Vera for devices that HomeSeer does not support (ie Zigbee).

I was just thinking about your comment on "massive development mode" of home assistant which ironically is still more stable and mature than where vera is. Any version whether dev or release I have tested going back several 3 months now has been more reliable than the vera!

I may now have to go hunt for a really solid zwave controller with an API. I have waited long enough for the vera.

Lighting & Load Control / Re: Fibaro Double Switch (FGS-223) Lag
« Last post by Tillsy on June 19, 2018, 08:32:02 pm »
Don't forget one of the biggest advantages of Z-wave is that everything works in a standard way so all Z-Wave devices and controllers automatically work together in harmony.  Bahahahaha... reality is a completely different story!

I've come up with two ways of getting devices included unsecurely on the Vera and get can it reacting to Fibaro switches very fast - but with complete seriousness I honestly think I'll just be causing you more pain, if you were to start getting your Fibaro devices working properly in Vera you'll just then run into more problems such as Vera intermittently failing your scenes or crashing or whatever... honestly your solution is finding a better platform, Vera has some fundamental issues that aren't getting the priority they need... but don't worry they're busy adding exciting new functionality on top of all this :(
Getting Started & Initial Setup / Re: New Alarm or Vera security???
« Last post by Tillsy on June 19, 2018, 08:23:09 pm »
Oh my gosh, at this point in time Vera is struggling with home automation... don't even think of having it manage your security!!!

As others have said, use a dedicated security system and then interface it to your HA platform of choice.
General / Re: Forcing Vera to update device config settings
« Last post by Tillsy on June 19, 2018, 08:14:29 pm »
configured in HS hoping the setting would carry over if the device hadn't been factory reset-no go, which I believe is possible as it was only unpaired.

All the Z-Wave devices I own all do an automatic factory reset when they are unpaired from a controller - all config is reset, the only retained data are counters like power usage.
General / Re: Vera Edge - major regression - thinking about throwing it away
« Last post by Tillsy on June 19, 2018, 08:10:17 pm »
Sadly everything you describe is what so many people have been suffering and trying to raise in these forums - Vera has become incredibly slow and unstable.

However, Vera apparently have some great new features in the pipeline... nevermind they are being added on top of a slow and unstable platform :(

There are other products out there though.  Since moving on I am still blown away that I have events/scenes that work so fast - yet under Vera I had to use direct Z-Wave associations to make things happen that quickly.  And that multiple items can instantly take place - I arm my security and I instantly hear my blinds going down, can see the power turn off all my TV gear, see multiple lights all turn off, etc... instantly, as in the very second I have pushed the button to arm I see and hear the clicks of all this taking place all at the same time in that very same instant.  It's been a few weeks and I'm still so excited like a little kid each time this stuff happens - bit spoilt after months of incredible pain with Vera.
General / Re: Goodbye Vera
« Last post by Minok on June 19, 2018, 07:03:36 pm »
I've had the Vera Plus for a few years now and only run it at a basic level, and am also frustrated by the lack of ability by the company to get its basic built in features working.

I've been 'testing' the geofence feature for over  a year and get the alerts I've left/entered pretty reliably.
But that the usage of that data is pointless because Vera's own app won't change the house mode as it says it will (ie I'm the only user, I leave, I get the notification that I left, I'm sitting at work and see my dashboard has me in "NIGHT" mode )  <facepalm>

So I'll continue to use it to do the most basic things and only that - be a conduit between my iPhone and turning on my outdoor and some indoor/hue lighting, and thats it.  It all seems so promising in the marketing paper and spec sheet, but the execution is just lacking.

That said, there's yet another new update begging to be installed (1.7.3831) so I'll do that and see.
General / Re: Securing and stabilizing the Vera by taking it off the grid
« Last post by rafale77 on June 19, 2018, 05:22:54 pm »
Removing more and more content from the vera. I am continuing to find new elementary issues with data corruption this morning with the vera going into infinite loop of vera reloads until I did a factory reset and recovered from backup without any apparent error in the logs. I have practically given up on vera now. My architecture is continuously changing and going away from vera dependance:
Homekit bridge and Xandem now connected to openLuup instead of the vera. Number of scenes down from over ~120 to 34. Devices down from ~280 to 200.

Next: moving Homewave and HABridge away from the Vera
Lighting & Load Control / Re: Energy Monitor
« Last post by jswim788 on June 19, 2018, 04:09:46 pm »
Vera can show you whatever values your Z-wave sensor is reporting.  There are plugins for saving the history such as DataMine.  You can also look at AltUI:,35860.0.html

Nothing built into Vera for storage that I'm aware of.
Upgrading / Re: Beta 7.0.27b (1036/3917/3918/3919)
« Last post by rafale77 on June 19, 2018, 03:56:24 pm »
ran the upgrade too as I somehow got my 7.0.26 suddenly corrupted by editing a scene and ended up having to do a factory reset... I have not observed any changes.
General / Re: Goodbye Vera
« Last post by rafale77 on June 19, 2018, 03:49:23 pm »
@jeubanks this is good input. Thank you! I might consider running homeseer on the pine instead.
I am already running Home assistant on my own fork for a large number of integration.

As I continue to migrating more of my logic from the vera to openLuup, I ran into a massive data corruption this morning on the vera. Editing some scenes and deleting devices lead to the vera suddenly go into an infinite Luup reload process (every 30s). Rebooting, recovering from a known good backup did nothing. I ended up having to run a factory reset, firmware reload and recover from that same backup. I have no idea what got corrupted. I suspect that I may also be getting bad sectors on the storage NAND of the VP which I will check later.
I am left with only 1 plugin: System Monitor. No more virtual devices, only zwave and zigbee and their child devices and a small subset of scenes which sync with openLuup.
Luup reload frequency have significantly decreased. I am still dealing with devices going "can't detect" even though they work fine. I am really looking forward to get rid of the vera.
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