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General => Upgrading => Topic started by: Sammy2 on May 02, 2018, 04:30:34 pm

Title: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Sammy2 on May 02, 2018, 04:30:34 pm
Has anyone installed this yet? How'd it go if you did?

I'm a bit leary after the last update fiasco.

BTW, still no updated to the CRAPPY Android App.

https://goo.gl/qz9rLe - Release notes

Code: [Select]
I7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799) ▾ May 2, 2018
Last Updated: May 2, 2018

Firmware
Vera3, VeraLite, & VeraLite G: 1.7.1028
VeraEdge: 1.7.3797
VeraPlus: 1.7.3798
VeraSecure: 1.7.3799

New Features
VeraEdge, VeraPlus, and VeraSecure (Series 500 controllers) compatible with the latest Z-Wave SDK (6.81, Z-Wave version 6.1).
Easier migration from Vera 3, VeraLite (Series 300 controllers), and the process is now a regular backup and restore.
Z-Wave routing of large networks improved, and redesigned backup and restore functionality.
Note: The backup and restore functionality may not work in some cases. Please contact Customer Care for assistance.
New Security Settings:
This option is mostly for developers which create or change MiOS plugins: Enable potentially unsafe Lua code, like wget and RunLua. Having this option enabled might cause unexpected behavior with some plugins or Lua code.
Enable UPnP. This will make your Vera discoverable and controllable by other UPnP devices.

Fixes and Improvements
Better handling of simultaneous recording uploads
Improved network connectivity detection for faster 3G backup connections
Fixed a synchronization issue that was preventing proper relay configuration to be applied to the controller
Updated notifications (cloud fix)
Affects all customers, regardless of beta status, or live status  or older controllers
Now when a basic user is present in the list, other users remain listed (cloud fix)
Now door lock pins added manually from the door lock are visible in the interface
Now special characters are accepted when using the VeraEdge and switching Wi-Fi Access Points
Email notifications display the correct temperature format
Scenes editor improvements for Lua code section
Improved scene trigger editing flow allows changes without asking the user to re-enter time restrictions
API improvements for Zigbee devices (lu_jobstatus fixed)

 Known Issues
Only on controllers that have an external USB Z-Wave dongle (USB plugged), communication with devices is lost after upgrade in some cases.
When using Google Chrome versions starting with v59, live streaming no longer works on local connections due to new Adobe Flash Player policy restricting the stream
Minor issue when adding some cameras in some cases using only a VeraPlus and SYNC (WPS) button
Unable to record video in Foscam FI9821W (Mjpeg)
Only in a bridge environment, NodOn Wall Switch disappears from the web UI
"Controller Down" alerts are sent when the relay servers are merely switching
 Note: Controllers switch from one relay server to another as a backup only when the controller cannot communicate with the main server assigned to it. Reasons why a controller switches depend on external factors like the customer's network, ISP or server issues, etc. If the connection drops, the controller jumps to another server
[VeraSecure] Even with the Wi-Fi option re-enabled, the UI displays the "Manually configure" option as being selected
Samsung Appliances are not yet available for usage in Scene actions.

Newly integrated devices

Scene controller
Aeotec WallMote Dual ZW129*

Sensor
Fibaro Door/Window Sensor 2 FGDW-002*

Switches and Dimmers
Philio Smart Energy Plug-In Switch PAN15*
Philio Z-Wave Smart Dimmer Socket PAD02*

Garage door opener​
Linear Pro Access Smart Garage Door WFWS-8XX​

*Note: For full compatibility of the newly integrated or hot-fixed devices, we recommend excluding and re-including them from the unit, after the upgrade is complete.


MOBILE APPS

WINDOWS

New Features
New setup flow: Easier Vera account setup and controller activation
My Controller: A new way to easily add a new controller or remove existing ones from your account
Settings→ Users: Now manage additional users for your Vera controller
New Software Update Card: Prompts you to upgrade the latest firmware

Fixes and Improvements
New Login screen
Now easily see your controllers that are online, offline or on Cellular Backup via My Controller
Faster load time and scrolling on Devices Page
Geofencing: Improved communication of Geofencing events when Internet connection is slow or switching from Wi-Fi to cellular
Camera images are now correctly shown when using "Manual Camera Wizard"
Philips Hue Bridge Presets can now be triggers in Scenes
Philips Hue bulb sliders are available in Preset Modes
The loader / empty list message is now visible on all screens
Preset Modes are now populated in all situations
The device height is now correctly set on Preset Modes when Devices are in List Mode
The warning icon appears on a device now only when it is in an error state
Thermostat state and temp can now be changed using Preset Modes
Many other fixes and improvements

Known Issues
At this time there are no reported blocking issues

iOS
New Features
New setup flow: Easier Vera account setup and controller activation
Settings→ Users: Now manage additional users for your Vera controller
New watch features (Note: after you connect to the controller via the iOS app, the watch app can be used):
    New: From your watch, see devices added to your favorites list.
    New: Switch devices on/off with your watch app only (without a phone). Note: watch must be internet connected
    New: See views from your cameras from your watch.  Note: cameras must be added to favorites list
Now control devices and Scenes with your voice, using the new microphone button in the app

Fixes and Improvements
Now door lock pins added manually from the door lock, are visible in the app
Fixed an issue where the account was blocked for 5 minutes after entering a wrong password twice
Now controller always appears online and offline accurately
Now editing is available behind the fourth button of Aeotec Wallmote Quad
Fixed an issue where the values of the dimmers weren?t saved in preset modes

Known Issues
There could be performance issues on older devices such as iPad 4 or iPhone 5. Clearing the in-memory apps and reloading the app is recommended in case of missing devices.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: HSD99 on May 02, 2018, 04:45:47 pm
Installed on the test Vera Plus (which only has a few devices) with no problems.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Sammy2 on May 02, 2018, 06:01:13 pm
I have over 100 devices and some of them are controlled via http commands and plugins etc.

I hope this is solid f/w. I'll wait a little bit longer.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: HSD99 on May 02, 2018, 06:16:11 pm
I have over 100 devices and some of them are controlled via http commands and plugins etc.

I hope this is solid f/w. I'll wait a little bit longer.

My main Vera Plus is similar to your setup---I'm going to wait a while myself.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Tsviper on May 02, 2018, 08:09:46 pm
I have over 100 devices and some of them are controlled via http commands and plugins etc.

I hope this is solid f/w. I'll wait a little bit longer.

My main Vera Plus is similar to your setup---I'm going to wait a while myself.

Similar setup as well.  Going for it...will keep you guys posted.  Tried the last beta and was not good.  Had to revert back without any ill effects.  So I suppose I can always downgrade again. Crossing my fingers.  ;D
Title: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Don Phillips on May 02, 2018, 09:55:53 pm
I'll probably skip this update. I seem to have better luck every other update. AMG0 is reporting icon issues.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: PrincessCleavage on May 03, 2018, 02:16:05 am
Anyone have a link to what?s included in this stable release?
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Sorin on May 03, 2018, 05:36:09 am
here are the release notes:

https://goo.gl/qz9rLe

Has anyone installed this yet? How'd it go if you did?

I'm a bit leary after the last update fiasco.

BTW, still no updated to the CRAPPY Android App.

https://goo.gl/qz9rLe - Release notes

iOS app with the new watch app is pending approval as we speak.
Android app will be seeded to Beta first, and will be there for a week or so, and if everything goes well it will be published. If you have some specific issues with the Android app, maybe our Customer Care team can try to help, if possible.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: ccollinscj on May 03, 2018, 09:29:50 am
Should of waited on the upgrade,  I have 2 Camera's (Amcrest/FOSCAM) stop working and now it is saying that the credentials are wrong.  I have check and they are correct and have not changed,  was working yesterday,  working with BI,  however after the upgrade they stopped.  I tried to recreate the camera and it will not let me get pass the testing and will not pass the credentials.  So much for providing security.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: ccollinscj on May 03, 2018, 09:38:40 am
I would not upgrading without being prepared to go through the restore process and if you rely on Camera's as part of security I would wait.  I guess is just like back in the old days of service packs with Microsoft, you never wanted to go with the reason version.  I am starting to think the Vera release are more like mass beta testing on public,  and it is best to stay a revision behind until the masses beta test it for you. 

Has anyone installed this yet? How'd it go if you did?

I'm a bit leary after the last update fiasco.

BTW, still no updated to the CRAPPY Android App.

https://goo.gl/qz9rLe - Release notes

Code: [Select]
I7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799) ▾ May 2, 2018
Last Updated: May 2, 2018

Firmware
Vera3, VeraLite, & VeraLite G: 1.7.1028
VeraEdge: 1.7.3797
VeraPlus: 1.7.3798
VeraSecure: 1.7.3799

New Features
VeraEdge, VeraPlus, and VeraSecure (Series 500 controllers) compatible with the latest Z-Wave SDK (6.81, Z-Wave version 6.1).
Easier migration from Vera 3, VeraLite (Series 300 controllers), and the process is now a regular backup and restore.
Z-Wave routing of large networks improved, and redesigned backup and restore functionality.
Note: The backup and restore functionality may not work in some cases. Please contact Customer Care for assistance.
New Security Settings:
This option is mostly for developers which create or change MiOS plugins: Enable potentially unsafe Lua code, like wget and RunLua. Having this option enabled might cause unexpected behavior with some plugins or Lua code.
Enable UPnP. This will make your Vera discoverable and controllable by other UPnP devices.

Fixes and Improvements
Better handling of simultaneous recording uploads
Improved network connectivity detection for faster 3G backup connections
Fixed a synchronization issue that was preventing proper relay configuration to be applied to the controller
Updated notifications (cloud fix)
Affects all customers, regardless of beta status, or live status  or older controllers
Now when a basic user is present in the list, other users remain listed (cloud fix)
Now door lock pins added manually from the door lock are visible in the interface
Now special characters are accepted when using the VeraEdge and switching Wi-Fi Access Points
Email notifications display the correct temperature format
Scenes editor improvements for Lua code section
Improved scene trigger editing flow allows changes without asking the user to re-enter time restrictions
API improvements for Zigbee devices (lu_jobstatus fixed)

 Known Issues
Only on controllers that have an external USB Z-Wave dongle (USB plugged), communication with devices is lost after upgrade in some cases.
When using Google Chrome versions starting with v59, live streaming no longer works on local connections due to new Adobe Flash Player policy restricting the stream
Minor issue when adding some cameras in some cases using only a VeraPlus and SYNC (WPS) button
Unable to record video in Foscam FI9821W (Mjpeg)
Only in a bridge environment, NodOn Wall Switch disappears from the web UI
"Controller Down" alerts are sent when the relay servers are merely switching
 Note: Controllers switch from one relay server to another as a backup only when the controller cannot communicate with the main server assigned to it. Reasons why a controller switches depend on external factors like the customer's network, ISP or server issues, etc. If the connection drops, the controller jumps to another server
[VeraSecure] Even with the Wi-Fi option re-enabled, the UI displays the "Manually configure" option as being selected
Samsung Appliances are not yet available for usage in Scene actions.

Newly integrated devices

Scene controller
Aeotec WallMote Dual ZW129*

Sensor
Fibaro Door/Window Sensor 2 FGDW-002*

Switches and Dimmers
Philio Smart Energy Plug-In Switch PAN15*
Philio Z-Wave Smart Dimmer Socket PAD02*

Garage door opener​
Linear Pro Access Smart Garage Door WFWS-8XX​

*Note: For full compatibility of the newly integrated or hot-fixed devices, we recommend excluding and re-including them from the unit, after the upgrade is complete.


MOBILE APPS

WINDOWS

New Features
New setup flow: Easier Vera account setup and controller activation
My Controller: A new way to easily add a new controller or remove existing ones from your account
Settings→ Users: Now manage additional users for your Vera controller
New Software Update Card: Prompts you to upgrade the latest firmware

Fixes and Improvements
New Login screen
Now easily see your controllers that are online, offline or on Cellular Backup via My Controller
Faster load time and scrolling on Devices Page
Geofencing: Improved communication of Geofencing events when Internet connection is slow or switching from Wi-Fi to cellular
Camera images are now correctly shown when using "Manual Camera Wizard"
Philips Hue Bridge Presets can now be triggers in Scenes
Philips Hue bulb sliders are available in Preset Modes
The loader / empty list message is now visible on all screens
Preset Modes are now populated in all situations
The device height is now correctly set on Preset Modes when Devices are in List Mode
The warning icon appears on a device now only when it is in an error state
Thermostat state and temp can now be changed using Preset Modes
Many other fixes and improvements

Known Issues
At this time there are no reported blocking issues

iOS
New Features
New setup flow: Easier Vera account setup and controller activation
Settings→ Users: Now manage additional users for your Vera controller
New watch features (Note: after you connect to the controller via the iOS app, the watch app can be used):
    New: From your watch, see devices added to your favorites list.
    New: Switch devices on/off with your watch app only (without a phone). Note: watch must be internet connected
    New: See views from your cameras from your watch.  Note: cameras must be added to favorites list
Now control devices and Scenes with your voice, using the new microphone button in the app

Fixes and Improvements
Now door lock pins added manually from the door lock, are visible in the app
Fixed an issue where the account was blocked for 5 minutes after entering a wrong password twice
Now controller always appears online and offline accurately
Now editing is available behind the fourth button of Aeotec Wallmote Quad
Fixed an issue where the values of the dimmers weren?t saved in preset modes

Known Issues
There could be performance issues on older devices such as iPad 4 or iPhone 5. Clearing the in-memory apps and reloading the app is recommended in case of missing devices.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: rafale77 on May 03, 2018, 09:46:47 am
Should of waited on the upgrade,  I have 2 Camera's (Amcrest/FOSCAM) stop working and now it is saying that the credentials are wrong.  I have check and they are correct and have not changed,  was working yesterday,  working with BI,  however after the upgrade they stopped.  I tried to recreate the camera and it will not let me get pass the testing and will not pass the credentials.  So much for providing security.

I reported this problem through in the 26b thread and through an open ticket... I guess bug reports get ignored. It looks to me that the software release pattern has not changed. The released versions consistently have more bugs than the betas.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: ccollinscj on May 03, 2018, 09:58:10 am
Yep the ole Microsoft code writing rules,  develop to 60% and throw it out to the public to beta test under the facade of vetted release and deal with bugs.

Should of waited on the upgrade,  I have 2 Camera's (Amcrest/FOSCAM) stop working and now it is saying that the credentials are wrong.  I have check and they are correct and have not changed,  was working yesterday,  working with BI,  however after the upgrade they stopped.  I tried to recreate the camera and it will not let me get pass the testing and will not pass the credentials.  So much for providing security.

I reported this problem through in the 26b thread and through an open ticket... I guess bug reports get ignored. It looks to me that the software release pattern has not changed. The released versions consistently have more bugs than the betas.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: ccollinscj on May 03, 2018, 10:00:43 am
This is really making look at only using BI for camera's and going over to Home Assistant.  I guess I have a new weekend project.

Should of waited on the upgrade,  I have 2 Camera's (Amcrest/FOSCAM) stop working and now it is saying that the credentials are wrong.  I have check and they are correct and have not changed,  was working yesterday,  working with BI,  however after the upgrade they stopped.  I tried to recreate the camera and it will not let me get pass the testing and will not pass the credentials.  So much for providing security.

I reported this problem through in the 26b thread and through an open ticket... I guess bug reports get ignored. It looks to me that the software release pattern has not changed. The released versions consistently have more bugs than the betas.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: rafale77 on May 03, 2018, 10:37:05 am
Well, I have stopped handling my cameras through the vera anyway. It is too much for them to handle. I only have a few on it essentially to control moving between presets. Recording is done on a QNAP and visual is on Homeassistant. There is an amcrest component there which has a bug and for which I pushed a fix which has been pending merge for a couple of weeks.


This is really making look at only using BI for camera's and going over to Home Assistant.  I guess I have a new weekend project.

Should of waited on the upgrade,  I have 2 Camera's (Amcrest/FOSCAM) stop working and now it is saying that the credentials are wrong.  I have check and they are correct and have not changed,  was working yesterday,  working with BI,  however after the upgrade they stopped.  I tried to recreate the camera and it will not let me get pass the testing and will not pass the credentials.  So much for providing security.

I reported this problem through in the 26b thread and through an open ticket... I guess bug reports get ignored. It looks to me that the software release pattern has not changed. The released versions consistently have more bugs than the betas.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: keithj69 on May 03, 2018, 11:23:53 am
Upgraded:  current issues
1. Controller is offline now.  can only access via local network
2.  message stating  " cannot write user data- system error - waiting to upload"
3.  cannot enable remote support.

what to do now?
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Sammy2 on May 03, 2018, 11:58:12 am
Well.. I guess I'll be holding pat again until Vera gets it together. Why roll f/w that has issues in beta to stable? Fix it in the beta first!
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Sammy2 on May 03, 2018, 12:02:55 pm
here are the release notes:

https://goo.gl/qz9rLe

Has anyone installed this yet? How'd it go if you did?

I'm a bit leary after the last update fiasco.

BTW, still no updated to the CRAPPY Android App.

https://goo.gl/qz9rLe - Release notes

iOS app with the new watch app is pending approval as we speak.
Android app will be seeded to Beta first, and will be there for a week or so, and if everything goes well it will be published. If you have some specific issues with the Android app, maybe our Customer Care team can try to help, if possible.

Android app is useless in using custom LUA and plugins, like to run my pool through the Jandy plugin, Autelus and the Jandy board, which is RS 432 HTTP commands. I don't use the app, I log in to home.getvera.com in a browser session. All works there but not in the app. CRAPPY implementation. If it works via a browser, either local or on the WAN, it NEEDS to work in the app. I use ImperiHome for most things now due to the poor implementation in the native app.

All that said, how to get in on the beta? This would be the best channel to tell of these shortcomings as I've emailed support and they just point the finger to the app / plugin rather than fixing the app.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: rafale77 on May 03, 2018, 12:11:02 pm
Upgraded:  current issues
1. Controller is offline now.  can only access via local network
2.  message stating  " cannot write user data- system error - waiting to upload"
3.  cannot enable remote support.

what to do now?

This might actually be a feature... finally running internet/cloud free! :P ;D ;D
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: HSD99 on May 03, 2018, 12:17:09 pm
I installed the beta on my test VP system on April 18, and upgraded to the release yesterday. Looking at Settings--->Backup, the unit stopped backups to Vera's cloud on April 26. It had been working normally from April 18th. Anyone else see this?
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Tsviper on May 03, 2018, 12:28:44 pm
Upgraded:  current issues
1. Controller is offline now.  can only access via local network
2.  message stating  " cannot write user data- system error - waiting to upload"
3.  cannot enable remote support.

what to do now?

I had all of these same issues on the last beta and now on this release as well.  All three issues have to do with the internal storage filling up.  I had to contact support and they had to SSH into my unit using my computer via remote and they removed all of the zwave firmware files for other countries to free up enough space to get things working again.  The problem is that for some reason the next day these files reappear (re-download?) automatically and the issue is back.  I ended up removing the DataMine 2 plugin and deleting associated files just to free up more space.  I think these lates firmwares are using significantly more space than previous versions.  Right now I can live without Datamine even though I love having that info.  Other than that everything seems to be working okay.   :-\
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Sammy2 on May 03, 2018, 12:32:56 pm
I have over 100 devices and some of them are controlled via http commands and plugins etc.

I hope this is solid f/w. I'll wait a little bit longer.

My main Vera Plus is similar to your setup---I'm going to wait a while myself.

Similar setup as well.  Going for it...will keep you guys posted.  Tried the last beta and was not good.  Had to revert back without any ill effects.  So I suppose I can always downgrade again. Crossing my fingers.  ;D

And the verdict is??

Oh, Nevermind! LOL
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: ccollinscj on May 03, 2018, 01:08:11 pm
Ran to all of that out of space stuff as well each month I go in an delete the list they gave me.  It is called sloppy code writing or SCRUM sprinting, or Half Ass....take your pick.  I going to create a script in the mean time to throw in a cron job,  until I start my weekend migration project to HA. 

Upgraded:  current issues
1. Controller is offline now.  can only access via local network
2.  message stating  " cannot write user data- system error - waiting to upload"
3.  cannot enable remote support.

what to do now?

I had all of these same issues on the last beta and now on this release as well.  All three issues have to do with the internal storage filling up.  I had to contact support and they had to SSH into my unit using my computer via remote and they removed all of the zwave firmware files for other countries to free up enough space to get things working again.  The problem is that for some reason the next day these files reappear (re-download?) automatically and the issue is back.  I ended up removing the DataMine 2 plugin and deleting associated files just to free up more space.  I think these lates firmwares are using significantly more space than previous versions.  Right now I can live without Datamine even though I love having that info.  Other than that everything seems to be working okay.   :-\
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Tsviper on May 03, 2018, 02:17:03 pm
So I guess we are no longer able to install both DataMine 2 and AltUI at the same time now with this latest firmware on my Vera Plus.  Too bad we can't permanently remove all the non-US z-wave firmwares as this would create just enough space for this.  If anyone can figure out how to prevent these files from re-appreaing each day that would solve this (at least for now).  Why did they choose to allocate such a small amount of space for plugins and system files in the first place? (~ 8MB?)
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: keithj69 on May 03, 2018, 02:18:25 pm
Ran to all of that out of space stuff as well each month I go in an delete the list they gave me.  It is called sloppy code writing or SCRUM sprinting, or Half Ass....take your pick.  I going to create a script in the mean time to throw in a cron job,  until I start my weekend migration project to HA. 

Upgraded:  current issues
1. Controller is offline now.  can only access via local network
2.  message stating  " cannot write user data- system error - waiting to upload"
3.  cannot enable remote support.

what to do now?

I had all of these same issues on the last beta and now on this release as well.  All three issues have to do with the internal storage filling up.  I had to contact support and they had to SSH into my unit using my computer via remote and they removed all of the zwave firmware files for other countries to free up enough space to get things working again.  The problem is that for some reason the next day these files reappear (re-download?) automatically and the issue is back.  I ended up removing the DataMine 2 plugin and deleting associated files just to free up more space.  I think these lates firmwares are using significantly more space than previous versions.  Right now I can live without Datamine even though I love having that info.  Other than that everything seems to be working okay.   :-\
Can you share the list?
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Sammy2 on May 03, 2018, 03:31:43 pm
The Sercom IP Cam App is pre-installed. Take that out as I don't use it nor do I want it.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: bobk on May 03, 2018, 04:57:31 pm
Quote
Can you share the list?

+1, please
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: keithj69 on May 03, 2018, 05:56:25 pm
I do not need the list now as i had to reset and restore.  Quick question, why release a firmware that breaks cameras? Actually why release a firmware when you know it will break things that are working?  Guess it is time to upgrade my controller.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Tsviper on May 03, 2018, 06:15:57 pm
I do not need the list now as i had to reset and restore.  Quick question, why release a firmware that breaks cameras? Actually why release a firmware when you know it will break things that are working?  Guess it is time to upgrade my controller.

Not sure upgrading your controller will help with running out of storage issues like these since all of their controllers since the Edge "feature" a NAND size of 128MB.  Unless you mean moving to a different platform which I contemplate every time something like this happens.  I just haven't found a good alternative.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: keithj69 on May 03, 2018, 07:23:59 pm
upgrade means going to homeseer.  They have 1/2 off on software now
Title: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Tillsy on May 03, 2018, 10:28:19 pm
Must say I was shocked to see my Vera say this was released this morning.

People were still reporting brand new faults with the beta yesterday - for example stuffed icons.

And yet suddenly it's now finished and ready for use.

Unless it has a fix for the Fibaro issues, which I know it doesn't, then I'm steering clear.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: unixdork on May 03, 2018, 11:22:32 pm
I was an idiot and upgraded before reading this. Now I cannot access my Vera. I will need to restore tomorrow if I can find the time.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: thierman on May 04, 2018, 01:32:58 am
Yes, I would avoid this release. It bricked my VeraPlus. Could not ssh via local lan. Although I got SSH login, it wouldn't accept the password written on the back of the box. Also, couldn't enable remote access.

With Support on the line, tried many times to factory reset the box. To no avail... After 3 hours. We RMA'ed the box. However, I tried one more time and managed to get the box going again, and restored from backup.


In case it's a hardware issue, I'll complete the RMA and send back my box, and see if that doesn't improve things. But based on the comments above, it looks like I'm not completely alone on this one.

UPDATE:
After writing this, I noticed that I no longer had any of my Zwave door locks... On further investigation, I no longer had any ZWAVE devices....

In fact, my vera went from  Role: Master SIS: YES PRI: YES, to now Role: Master SIS: NO PRI:YES.

I tried multiple times to restore my zwave network from backup, to no avail.

For me, this might be the nail in the coffin for Vera. If I have to go around and pair all my devices again, I'm going to be switching to Samsung Smartthings, which I've been evaluating, but because of the work to move everything over, I was avoiding changing. But now.... seriously...

I'll give Vera support a call in the morning. but I think I'm reaching the end of my rope...
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: peppemon on May 04, 2018, 09:56:45 am
I upgraded and everything was gone. I have tried to restore multiple times from different backups, factory reset.
After restore I see all my plugins and scenes, but no zwave at all, all the zwave devices are gone.

I can also see Role: Master SIS: NO PRI: YES

What does it mean?
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: peppemon on May 04, 2018, 10:07:01 am
I have one controller that was not upgraded (2 different homes)

In the new firmware (the one where I lost all zwave)
Version: 6.1 L:1
Role: Master SIS: NO PRI: YES

In the Old formware I see
Version: 4.5 L:1
Role: Suc SIS: YES PRI: YES
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: therealdb on May 04, 2018, 11:49:25 am
I had support working on my unit to fix other things and I they reverted back to zwave version 4.5. I asked them to re-apply 6.1, since my previous backups from the beta are not working. Overall it's working OK for me, after a couple of problems related to "cannot write user data" that support fixed for me by reflashing the unit.

A friend of mine got very similar problems, and waiting a day fixed them automatically. Maybe it's something related to zwave doing its magic, but open a support case anyway.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: rafale77 on May 04, 2018, 12:08:14 pm
Quote
In the new firmware (the one where I lost all zwave)
Version: 6.1 L:1
Role: Master SIS: NO PRI: YES


I am on 6.1 on the 26b and have not had any of these problems. It is showing yes and yes... So it is definitely due to the zwave firmware but in the vera. What did they do?
Title: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: thierman on May 04, 2018, 12:48:40 pm
Just got my problem fixed by support. They downgraded both the Zwave chip and software back to the previous version.

While that was happening they got a message from VERA management withdrawing this latest code. I.E. This code is no longer available, as it has too many bugs.

My box is once again working with all the ZWave devices. I'm now back at VeraPlus version 1.7.3532.

So I suspect if your having the same problem I was having you will need to get VeraSupport to downgrade your code, and Zwave chip firmware for you.


Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: kwieto on May 04, 2018, 03:49:05 pm
There is something going on with the backup.
I have a list of backups done extremely frequently, like 6 times per hour.
I also have major issues with controller when I try to remove one of my devices - the z-wave, bluetooth and zigbee controls are going down, and only resetting and restoring from backup saved before upgrade helps.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Jim McGhee on May 04, 2018, 04:31:51 pm
The story so far...
Upgraded to the new firmware and the update failed leaving my VeraPlus in a boot loop. (1.7.3798)
Tried resetting by hitting the reset 6 times in 6 seconds but that didn't work.  Tried many times...
Finally got it to reset to factory using the following html:

http://VeraPlus_IP/cgi-bin/cmh/cmh_reset.sh?reset=all  (use this at your own risk!!!)

Restored from the backup I made just before the firmware upgrade.  MADE SURE TO CHECK THE 'Backup ZWave Network' CHECKBOX.
Everything worked except NONE OF MY ZWAVE DEVICES WERE RESTORED!!!!!

Called customer support and here's the deal (as I understand it)...
The firmware upgrade updates the zwave chip firmware from 3.xx to 6.xx.
Backups made with the 3.xx chip will NOT restore properly with the 6.xx chip firmware installed.
The support person had to
- downgrade the zwave chip to 3.xx
- restore my old backup
- upgrade my zwave chip back to 6.xx

This means any backups you have from before the firmware upgrade WILL NOT RESTORE PROPERLY AFTER THE UPGRADE!!!!
Be sure you make a new backup after a successful upgrade.
If you HAVE TO restore an old backup, you MUST call customer support to get their help.

Unfortunately, 10 minutes after I hung up, the zwave stuff stopped working again  :(
but support is now working on that and should be calling me back any minute.   :)

Hope this might help others understand the current upgrade process and potential problems.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: markebby on May 04, 2018, 07:13:42 pm
I am also haveing issues.  I can log into my controller with ssh but web gui does not do anything with any devices when I can get a reset to bring it up.  It is a good thing that I have a SmartThings controller to move my devices over to.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: unixdork on May 04, 2018, 10:52:08 pm
Interestingly, my automated and motion activated scenes are still working even though my vera appears to be bricked. I've tried everything in this thread with no luck. Sent a note to tech support and hopefully they can get me fixed up.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Stuart on May 05, 2018, 12:53:30 am
I cannot seem to find the urls for upgrading.  I did it the other day with my edge and now that I want to upgrade my light -- cannot for the life of me find the urls.   Anyone ?
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Tillsy on May 05, 2018, 02:27:51 am
I cannot seem to find the urls for upgrading.  I did it the other day with my edge and now that I want to upgrade my light -- cannot for the life of me find the urls.   Anyone ?

You sir are a brave man........ or very stupid  ;D :o :-[ :-\
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: kwieto on May 05, 2018, 05:59:03 am
Maybe this depends on the controller. I upgraded plus and edge, plus has issues, edge works fine.
In Plus' case the problem is also memory, but not the "operational" but "system" reserved (those folders which have ridiculously small space limit of 10MB). I don't have THAT much plugins or devices and I'm getting about 90% of the limit. When it reached 96%, controller started choking and reporting as offline or not processing data from sensors or switches.

I did full reset (also with issues, it helped to log directly to the controller via its WiFi (strangely I couldn't do it over 2,4G but on 5G it worked) and resetting that way. Then I restored backup done on Beta (Z-wave chip was already upgraded by CC long before beta) and it works since yesterday without issues.

As I see, controller didn't do any automatic backups since that (reported already here by someone else), but that's probably better than non-restorable backups done every couple of minutes, as it was before.

Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: TVA on May 05, 2018, 06:13:09 am
Hello, tell me how do I get the firmware 1.7.3532? I have my controller after the update does not work. I apologize if not clearly written, I use the Google translator. I've done reset and restore from backup several times, but it still doesn't work like it used to. I've been using Vera Plus for almost 1 year and have always enjoyed and advised it to many, but now I'm very disappointed and don't know how to be. In my house there is no lighting anywhere and other devices.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Stuart on May 05, 2018, 10:58:02 am
I cannot seem to find the urls for upgrading.  I did it the other day with my edge and now that I want to upgrade my light -- cannot for the life of me find the urls.   Anyone ?

You sir are a brave man........ or very stupid  ;D :o :-[ :-\

Likely - but

The edge went fine and the old lite only has a couple of devices -- and I want to add fibaro  sensor 2 to it.

BUT -- there are no links on the release notes page so (not shouting) ANYONE KNOW WHERE THE LINKS ARE?

I'm driving 140 miles to the other vera today and would like to try the upgrade "in person" versus remote -- for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: HSD99 on May 05, 2018, 11:19:04 am
I cannot seem to find the urls for upgrading.  I did it the other day with my edge and now that I want to upgrade my light -- cannot for the life of me find the urls.   Anyone ?

You sir are a brave man........ or very stupid  ;D :o :-[ :-\

Likely - but

The edge went fine and the old lite only has a couple of devices -- and I want to add fibaro  sensor 2 to it.

BUT -- there are no links on the release notes page so (not shouting) ANYONE KNOW WHERE THE LINKS ARE?

I'm driving 140 miles to the other vera today and would like to try the upgrade "in person" versus remote -- for obvious reasons.
Earlier in this thread, a commenter posted that Vera management had withdrawn the update because of all the problems.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Stuart on May 05, 2018, 11:48:42 am
My bad -- I'd got the link the first time through from the official notice.  Which of course did not mention the link withdraw.

Looks like Vera are up to their old tricks (again ... and again ... and .....)

Though to be fair, withdrawing is better than their ploy of trying to tell us there is no problem.

One wonders when they will learn or if they will ever learn...  fundamentally poor management.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: kwieto on May 05, 2018, 12:16:58 pm
Try checking in "firmware" section of your controller, in web interface
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Tsviper on May 05, 2018, 06:43:16 pm
Upgraded:  current issues
1. Controller is offline now.  can only access via local network
2.  message stating  " cannot write user data- system error - waiting to upload"
3.  cannot enable remote support.

what to do now?

I had all of these same issues on the last beta and now on this release as well.  All three issues have to do with the internal storage filling up.  I had to contact support and they had to SSH into my unit using my computer via remote and they removed all of the zwave firmware files for other countries to free up enough space to get things working again.  The problem is that for some reason the next day these files reappear (re-download?) automatically and the issue is back.  I ended up removing the DataMine 2 plugin and deleting associated files just to free up more space.  I think these lates firmwares are using significantly more space than previous versions.  Right now I can live without Datamine even though I love having that info.  Other than that everything seems to be working okay.   :-\

So a quick followup to this...I was able to replace all the other region firmware files with blank text files with the same names (i.e. zwave_zm5304_fw_6.01_cn.hex etc.) and they were not replaced last night like they are when I completely delete them.  This freed up almost 2mb of extra space giving me plenty to reinstall DataMine 2 plugin again.  Not sure why these files are forced back when removed but at least has solved my problem (until the next release at least   :-\).   
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: pbenjamin on May 05, 2018, 07:32:46 pm
Just got my problem fixed by support. They downgraded both the Zwave chip and software back to the previous version.

While that was happening they got a message from VERA management withdrawing this latest code. I.E. This code is no longer available, as it has too many bugs.

My box is once again working with all the ZWave devices. I'm now back at VeraPlus version 1.7.3532.

So I suspect if your having the same problem I was having you will need to get VeraSupport to downgrade your code, and Zwave chip firmware for you.

So glad I did NOT update my Verasecure when given the chance a couple days ago. I'd have been !@#$!@ off. Back in January I updated my VeraEdge and most of my devices stopped working or worked very slowly with errors up the ying yang. I reset the VeraEdge twice and re-added my devices with no luck so I purchased a Verasecure and added all my devices. So glad I didn't update my Verasecure. Oh and I read there is beta frimware fix for my Veraedge.....really??? Vera needs to get their act together. I may give up and run a Z-Stick Gen 5 on a PI or in Docker on a Synology ahpgao
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: keithj69 on May 05, 2018, 09:12:40 pm
I made the switch at the right time.  I deleted a zwave device today and the plus went into luuap reload nonstop.  Can't reset it.  Took advantage of the sale yesterday,  Moved almost all devices over today and have some things going.  Bye. >:(
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: kwieto on May 06, 2018, 05:49:50 am
I was able to replace all the other region firmware files with blank text files with the same names (i.e. zwave_zm5304_fw_6.01_cn.hex etc.) 

Can you provide list of names and where they can be found?
I think I will need such solution sooner than later :(
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Tsviper on May 06, 2018, 01:55:31 pm
I was able to replace all the other region firmware files with blank text files with the same names (i.e. zwave_zm5304_fw_6.01_cn.hex etc.) 

Can you provide list of names and where they can be found?
I think I will need such solution sooner than later :(

I have attached the files I now have in the etc/cmh-zwfw folder.  Freed up a significant amount of space.  I replaced the same files that support erased when they remote SSH into my system after I had the initial issue.  Problem is that they reappear at midnight every day if they are missing.  I am on a Mac so I used RBrowser to SCP the files over.  On windows machines I believe you can use WinSCP.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: tunnus on May 07, 2018, 06:18:45 am
The Sercom IP Cam App is pre-installed. Take that out as I don't use it nor do I want it.

Another plugin which is nowadays pre-installed is Amazon Alexa Helper. You can uninstall both, but they reappear almost immediately  >:(
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: laalves on May 07, 2018, 07:11:25 am
Just to chime in with a success story, I upgraded my VeraPlus to 26 with no problems at all. Further, the interface and the iOS app feel way faster and devices are more responsive when receiving commands. For me, a very worthwhile upgrade.
Title: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Tillsy on May 07, 2018, 07:49:12 pm
Just to chime in with a success story, I upgraded my VeraPlus to 26 with no problems at all. Further, the interface and the iOS app feel way faster and devices are more responsive when receiving commands. For me, a very worthwhile upgrade.
Fantastic to hear - as an IT guy used to modern devices having extremely fast UIs, the insanely slow UI of Vera has been an incredible frustration for me (you don't buy something in 2018 expecting it to perform slower than a Commodore 64 in 1984).  Looking forward to trying it out when the present stability issues are resolved.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: HSD99 on May 10, 2018, 10:52:53 am
Just to chime in with a success story, I upgraded my VeraPlus to 26 with no problems. Further, the interface and the iOS app feel way faster and devices are more responsive when receiving commands. For me, a very worthwhile upgrade.
I always upgrade my test VP system first. It normally has no devices installed other than ALTUI and SysMon. It upgraded with no problems and, as has been mentioned by others, seems to have a much more responsive UI.  I added two Z-Wave Plus devices as a test---a Monoprice 4-in-1 sensor and an Aeon Smart Switch 6. Based on previous experience, both devices were less than a foot from the VP during inclusion. The system went into include mode virtually instantaneously and the entire inclusion, key exchange and configuration happened in a few seconds for each device with no problems. This is much different than in earlier firmware releases, especially during key exchange. Whether this is due more to the new Z-Wave 6.1 firmware, or improvements on Vera's end, or both, the system performance is much better than earlier versions. Both devices are rock solid and the test system has been up for over a week.

I have a scene that turns on the Smart Switch if motion is detected, certainly a common Vera use case. The response seems instantaneous, similar to a normal non-Z-Wave motion sensing wall switch.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: HSD99 on May 10, 2018, 10:56:50 am
I installed the beta on my test VP system on April 18, and upgraded to the release yesterday. Looking at Settings--->Backup, the unit stopped backups to Vera's cloud on April 26. It had been working normally from April 18th. Anyone else see this?
UPDATE: Backups started working normally on May 7. I've been on the road since May 6, so just noticed this morning. Either the problem was in the Vera cloud backend, or they stealth updated  my system, or it magically fixed itself.  :-\  @kwieto---weren't you seeing the opposite---far too many backups?
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: rafale77 on May 10, 2018, 11:18:12 am
I installed the beta on my test VP system on April 18, and upgraded to the release yesterday. Looking at Settings--->Backup, the unit stopped backups to Vera's cloud on April 26. It had been working normally from April 18th. Anyone else see this?
UPDATE: Backups started working normally on May 7. I've been on the road since May 6, so just noticed this morning. Either the problem was in the Vera cloud backend, or they stealth updated  my system, or it magically fixed itself.  :-\  @kwieto---weren't you seeing the opposite---far too many backups?

Are you still on 3798?
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: HSD99 on May 10, 2018, 11:40:06 am
"You are running the latest version 1.7.3798"  Yes---is there a new beta?
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: rafale77 on May 10, 2018, 12:03:32 pm
That's what I was trying to find out too. I am hearing of a beta post May 7th which has not yet showed up. Since strangely betas tend to be more stable than the released firmwares with vera, I was hoping they gave you a new one.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: HSD99 on May 10, 2018, 12:51:11 pm
That's what I was trying to find out too. I am hearing of a beta post May 7th which has not yet showed up. Since strangely betas tend to be more stable than the released firmwares with vera, I was hoping they gave you a new one.

Stable betas and terrible releases seem to be the norm---it's certainly been my experience.  My frustration with Vera is that they don't seem to understand the concept of beta testing.

There seems to be some mechanism in Vera, whether a script or scripts on Vera itself, or something in the Vera cloud that reaches out and replaces deleted or changed files. Some years ago, before I discovered os.execute, I had created a cron job to reboot my Vera Lite system once a week. This worked for about a year, then after a firmware upgrade crontab was overwritten, which would not be unexpected. I edited the reboot back into crontab and found that it had been overwritten with the original file the next day. Earlier in this thread a commenter mentioned that Vera support had removed all the non-US Z-Wave hex files to free up space, only to have them reappear the next day.

My main system is running 1.7.3232, as it has been rock-solid for me and there's nothing in the new releases that I need.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: kwieto on May 10, 2018, 04:23:39 pm
@kwieto---weren't you seeing the opposite---far too many backups?

Yes. Then after reset of the system I had none, then again couple every hour.
As I was informed by Customer Care, it was the problem on Vera's server side and now everything should work normally

I don't know about problems with removing devices (if it is solved or not), but I'll ask
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Inzax on May 10, 2018, 05:52:41 pm
That's what I was trying to find out too. I am hearing of a beta post May 7th which has not yet showed up. Since strangely betas tend to be more stable than the released firmwares with vera, I was hoping they gave you a new one.

From what I can tell, the latest beta has also been removed????

I am on 3799 (Vera Secure) with no more issues then normal with vera.  Thought about downgrading.  I don't like being on a pulled version of the firmware.  Could not find that last beta which was good(ish) for me me.   
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: kwieto on May 11, 2018, 03:34:43 am
From what I can tell, the latest beta has also been removed????

Yeah, I also wanted to do downgrade after my issues and couldn't find it.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: ccollinscj on May 13, 2018, 12:49:14 pm
Well migration is been a little bit of work from Veraplus to Home Assistant,  however the piece of mind of being able to restore from backup, having the ability to do snapshots, and customization is great.  This was the straw that broke the camels back for me,  I seen this with ST and the dependence on the internet and not vetting updates.  Now I have total control of the version I am running, being able to know what is being done to my OS / Controller (not relying on someone that will not explain what they are doing to my controller that is in another country), and have the customization that I want.  This may not be for everyone, however I think I have been fair at giving this product a chance.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: rafale77 on May 14, 2018, 01:53:37 pm
That's what I was trying to find out too. I am hearing of a beta post May 7th which has not yet showed up. Since strangely betas tend to be more stable than the released firmwares with vera, I was hoping they gave you a new one.

From what I can tell, the latest beta has also been removed????

I am on 3799 (Vera Secure) with no more issues then normal with vera.  Thought about downgrading.  I don't like being on a pulled version of the firmware.  Could not find that last beta which was good(ish) for me me.

I saw some post from mcv that there was a beta after 26 (May 7th). I think on FB. Have not seen anything yet.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: markd on May 14, 2018, 02:24:18 pm
New firmware has just been posted...

Who will be first to upgrade?
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: HSD99 on May 14, 2018, 04:05:02 pm
Is this a beta?
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: kwieto on May 14, 2018, 04:16:30 pm
Looking at release information, no. But my controllers (running the 7.0.26 beta and "official" (withdrawn) release) don't see it (yet?)
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: HSD99 on May 14, 2018, 04:52:14 pm
Looking at release information, no. But my controllers (running the 7.0.26 beta and "official" (withdrawn) release) don't see it (yet?)
Same here.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: ccollinscj on May 14, 2018, 04:57:23 pm
I will try it, send me a link....lol ;D

New firmware has just been posted...

Who will be first to upgrade?
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Inzax on May 14, 2018, 05:04:16 pm
If you did the last upgrade you won't see it since this firmware has a lower release number....lol.  Currently I am on 1.7.3799 so without a link I am stuck.

UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26.01 (1.7.1030/1.7.3830/1.7.3831/1.7.3832) ▾ May 14, 2018
Last Updated: May 14, 2018 10:03AM PDT
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: kwieto on May 14, 2018, 05:10:31 pm
No, older versions have 1.7.37x this has 1.7.38xx
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: markd on May 14, 2018, 05:12:24 pm
Do the release notes say what has changed since the withdrawn beta and previous release?
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: rafale77 on May 14, 2018, 05:32:12 pm
This is interesting... knowing that releases are usually really alphas and betas are more stable than the official releases, I am not too surprised.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Tsviper on May 14, 2018, 06:45:20 pm
If you did the last upgrade you won't see it since this firmware has a lower release number....lol.  Currently I am on 1.7.3799 so without a link I am stuck.

UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26.01 (1.7.1030/1.7.3830/1.7.3831/1.7.3832) ▾ May 14, 2018
Last Updated: May 14, 2018 10:03AM PDT

Here is the link for the Vera Plus if it helps...I always just replace the version number and it works.
http://dl.mios.com/firmware/mt7621/mios/release/mt7621_Luup_ui7-1.7.3831-en-mios.squashfs

Upgrading mine now...

Update: Well it updated just fine...I did not remove any of my plugins prior to free up space.  After updating the "overlay" partition was 94% full (see screenshot).  Previous firmware was at 98% followed by the "can't write user data" error.  After doing my little trick of replacing the superfluous z-wave firmware files I'm am now at a comfortable 77% full (2nd screenshot).  I'm guessing they reduced the size of the update a little.  Hope this helps someone.  Let you know if I experience any other abnormalities.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: HSD99 on May 14, 2018, 07:27:59 pm
Installed with no issues on the test VP. This system has two Z-Wave devices and ALTUI, DelayLight, and SysMon plug-ins, so it's not heavily loaded. The "disk" was at 74% before the upgrade (no attempt was made to remove surplus files) and is now 70%, so they have cut down the size somewhat.

UPDATE: Storage has dropped to 69%, but there are still 2+ MB of useless Z-Wave .hex files. It would be trivial for the install script to check the region and only install the correct Z-Wave firmware file.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: rafale77 on May 14, 2018, 08:54:43 pm
Read the release note. It is a 26.01 which is another fix of a booboo catastrophic release.
Not much new besides the new zwave firmware compared to 25 but I think the UI feels much faster just like the beta.

Happy to see this finally:

Fixed issue that affected initial 7.26 updates with regard to third party cameras when digest authentication was used.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Inzax on May 14, 2018, 09:57:54 pm
No, older versions have 1.7.37x this has 1.7.38xx

Yup.  My bad.

But I should be able to upgrade...which I can't.  When I contacted support they said I would NOT get a firmware update because my .3799 although removed, would stand until the NEXT firmware upgrade???  Their words,  "there is not reason to downgrade from .3799 to 3832. "
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: rafale77 on May 14, 2018, 11:16:45 pm
No, older versions have 1.7.37x this has 1.7.38xx

Yup.  My bad.

But I should be able to upgrade...which I can't.  When I contacted support they said I would NOT get a firmware update because my .3799 although removed, would stand until the NEXT firmware upgrade???  Their words,  "there is not reason to downgrade from .3799 to 3832. "

This is absurd. If you have cameras on your vera, you do need to upgrade since both the 26b and 26 have a digest authentication bug.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: kwieto on May 15, 2018, 02:49:40 am
Downgrade from 3799 to 3832, hmmm.... I always thought that releases go up with numbers, not down?
Excited what will happen next - will next release get lower number (then what will happen when they reach 0?) or it will be another downgrade with higher number (then how wast will we get to UI1?) ;)
Title: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Tillsy on May 15, 2018, 03:31:17 am
It certainly seems that way - I've been researching many more Z-wave devices and, in every single case, I research them in this forums and find posts going back years where even as recently as months ago Vera doesn't fix or even respond to compatibility problems.

I'm actually quite stunned a company would allow itself to be so embarrassed by its own forum like this - this forum is filled with years worth of problems that have got nowhere :(
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Inzax on May 15, 2018, 06:59:22 am
Downgrade from 3799 to 3832, hmmm.... I always thought that releases go up with numbers, not down?
Excited what will happen next - will next release get lower number (then what will happen when they reach 0?) or it will be another downgrade with higher number (then how wast will we get to UI1?) ;)


I'm more and more convinced that Vera's development team is one single underpaid guy. :o

Yes.  My mistake. (as stated above) I was confused since Vera themselves were calling it a downgrade stating "there was no reason for me to downgrade from the pulled firmware the the latest release."
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: opel-oleg on May 15, 2018, 08:57:55 am
I updated two verageage. The update takes a little longer.
Do not be frightened by "Offline". After 10 ... 15 everything starts to work.
 No cameras.:)
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: kwieto on May 15, 2018, 10:58:15 am
Yes.  My mistake. (as stated above)

I'm not referring to your post, byt that Vera calls it "downgrade".
I don't see this firmware either on 7.0.26 final or beta.

All in all, mistakes happen. but there are too much of them recently and if this won't improve, I'll also take a chance to migrate.
My wife will be angry as it will need probably establishing whole setup from the scratch, but maybe 1 day of work is better than facing issues every couple of months.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: kwieto on May 15, 2018, 11:36:35 am
My Edge reported new firmware available (its running on 7.0.26 now), Both Plus'es (running 7.0.26 beta and final) as well.
I'm upgrading Edge (my test/backup controller) and see what will happen.

Edit: Upgrade for Edge went smooth, I upgraded also one (less important) Plus. After upgrading I've got good old "can't write userdata" error, strange, because when I compared the system storage it was 92% filled before and after the upgrade. I have less memory in kB, OK, but the difference is 12Kb (664k vs 676k before upgrade).
Shouldn't make a difference, is this a sign of new troubles coming?
The funiest part is that this controller (19 physical devices, in 45 total) has bigger amount of system storage used (92%) than the main one (about 50 physical devices 140 in total, system storage used 90%).

I think I'm too dumb to understand this.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: ccollinscj on May 15, 2018, 01:20:41 pm
Wow...like facebook they have removed my well constructed response to the heavy handed response to the treatment of the community.  Sensorship.....I did not use any vulgarity, or personally attacked anyone,  they just must of not like the truth. Unreal I am sure they will pull this one as well. 
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: RichieB on May 15, 2018, 05:17:01 pm
im literally terrified of hitting that update firmware button
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: cokeman on May 15, 2018, 05:24:13 pm
Found a bug AGAIN in the "new" firmware (or is the right word BETA) 7.0.26.1

Trying to edit a scene with 20 lines of luup code.

---
Warning

The Lua code attached to this scene seems to be corrupted. This is the recovered code:
---

Nice. now I can't edit my own luup code....  What a joke

Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: opel-oleg on May 15, 2018, 05:47:35 pm
Try it now:  Users & Account Info > Security
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: rafale77 on May 15, 2018, 08:48:04 pm
Upgraded from 26b to 26.01 on my vera plus and I have already seen 2 unexpected Luup Reloads in 24hours (about 12h intervals). I had gone several days without any on the 26b. Will let it settle a little and see if I can get to the bottom of this once I get home.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: cdodgela on May 16, 2018, 02:41:06 pm
Upgraded my Vera Plus to 1.7.3831 this morning.  Had to restore from backup after and all is good now.  First time I've run into any problem with an upgrade.  It acted like a new install, any devices it did detect had default names, all scenes were gone.  Was worried for a few minutes, restored and back to normal..
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Sender on May 16, 2018, 04:07:40 pm
Upgraded 12 hours ago.

Since vera is unstable. Scenes not firing. Big delays and remote connection not working stable.

And since I am not the only one... vera: please solve it.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: denix on May 16, 2018, 04:45:23 pm
Just upgraded and noticed that my Water Valve (Fortrezz) now shows Open/Close backwards - the status is opposite and buttons do opposite thing! Was always fine before that for years...
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: BigE-TX on May 16, 2018, 10:30:59 pm
Just upgraded.  Lost all rooms, all scenes, all apps, cameras, many of the devices.  Had to go back to a restore - not the one pre-update either.  For the moment, things are back.  We'll see if it stays stable.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: tunnus on May 17, 2018, 05:31:27 am
I was also terrified of hitting that upgrade button on my VeraEdge, but let's see what happens... :o

Update: running on 1.7.3830 now and everything seems to be ok
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: kwieto on May 17, 2018, 05:45:06 am
No troubles on my "testing" Edge and on one of the Plus'es.
The other one waits till I'll be at the location, "just in case".
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: tomtcom on May 17, 2018, 08:27:42 pm
Other than having to unplug it after 15 minutes, very smooth upgrade. All devices and plugins working. I uploaded the new backups and zwave network backup too just in case.

I like the icons showing plugs for outlets instead of light bulbs, that's a nice touch. UI seems responsive too. I was nervous. :)

Interesting on the Luup device categories page that 3/5 for garage door is lined out but still works for my MyQ interace. I would have assumed that would not work as they added category 32 but it still looks good and I'm not touching it! :)
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: EricAndRob on May 17, 2018, 08:30:40 pm
Upgraded:  current issues
1. Controller is offline now.  can only access via local network
2.  message stating  " cannot write user data- system error - waiting to upload"
3.  cannot enable remote support.

what to do now?

Mine is doing something similar- Controller is offline when not connected locally, and when I access locally via the app, it says "Controller is busy updating data" at the top in blue.  All of my devices can be manually controlled just fine, but none of my scenes are firing, and no alerts have been logged since the update last night.  I also cannot enable remote support.  I upgraded 5 different VeraPlus boxes via the app last nights, and 4 of them were online perfectly with everything working very quickly.  I have just this one that is not behaving.  Since I did the upgrade via the app, I didn't do a local save/backup of this controller.  How do I either try to revert to an older version of firmware, or maybe try to push this one again since it worked fine on all of my other VeraPlus boxes?  Thanks for any help/suggestions!
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: EricAndRob on May 17, 2018, 09:05:59 pm
If you did the last upgrade you won't see it since this firmware has a lower release number....lol.  Currently I am on 1.7.3799 so without a link I am stuck.

UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26.01 (1.7.1030/1.7.3830/1.7.3831/1.7.3832) ▾ May 14, 2018
Last Updated: May 14, 2018 10:03AM PDT

Here is the link for the Vera Plus if it helps...I always just replace the version number and it works.
http://dl.mios.com/firmware/mt7621/mios/release/mt7621_Luup_ui7-1.7.3831-en-mios.squashfs

Upgrading mine now...

Update: Well it updated just fine...I did not remove any of my plugins prior to free up space.  After updating the "overlay" partition was 94% full (see screenshot).  Previous firmware was at 98% followed by the "can't write user data" error.  After doing my little trick of replacing the superfluous z-wave firmware files I'm am now at a comfortable 77% full (2nd screenshot).  I'm guessing they reduced the size of the update a little.  Hope this helps someone.  Let you know if I experience any other abnormalities.

Brand new here and finding my way around so my apologies if something I ask should be obvious... my upgrade failed and I'm trying to figure out why.  Maybe it's a space issue.  I could have lots of these unneeded z-wave files on my device and it could be full, althought I didn't see any full error messages.  I see the screen shots you have there, but am unsure how I get to a place in the system to check capacity, let alone delete any files.  I am old enough I remember moving around in DOS, which looks a bit like what the screen shots display, but haven't started messing with anything fancy in here yet.  Sounds like now might be the time to start learning- is there a post that shows how to complete some of these basic steps (check space usage, indentify erroneous files, delete unneeded files, etc.).  Thanks!
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Sorin on May 18, 2018, 04:18:32 am
Hello Eric and everyone, encountering similar issues. Indeed, there are some possible storage issues patterns that have been observed and reported to be fixed by next release.
Meanwhile, if you find yourself in a similar situation and your Vera is still accessible or ping-able over the local network, don't hesitate to contact Customer Care ASAP, and they will address this on the spot. Contact details in my signature.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Joenoo on May 18, 2018, 03:35:29 pm
Upgraded and no issues; smooth sailing. Quite surprising actually.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Jantang on May 18, 2018, 06:30:00 pm
Upgraded and no issues; smooth sailing. Quite surprising actually.

Likewise... With some trepidation, I just upgraded my VeraPlus from 7.0.25 to 7.0.26.01.  No issues - so far everything is working fine.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: edgebinary on May 19, 2018, 09:51:27 am
Upgraded to the latest, now all of my scenes seem sluggish. Sometimes they won't fire at all, and yet other times they fire off right away.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: lecter on May 19, 2018, 11:27:03 am
Upgraded from the pulled release with no issues so far (not that I had any with that one, either).
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: kwieto on May 19, 2018, 12:31:28 pm
Upgraded my last controller (Plus), everything were more or less fine.
I've checked system memory ("overlay" section) and before upgrade it was 90%, after upgrade it was 95% filled
Then I checked it another day and it was 98%. I decided to contact CC for that, but I couldn't turn it on.
So I decided to do a reboot. Saved backup, rebooted and... how predictable, no signal from controller after reboot.
Unplugged it, plugged again, no contact.
As the unit is left at remote location I can't check the status of lights and do anything more until I'll get to that location.
So I've turned controller off, and restored backup on another unit (Edge) which was left "just in case" at that place.
That unit was upgraded to 7.0.26.1 couple of days ago.

Everything works fine but major surprise came when I've checked how much system memory is used - only 72% (!!).
I don't understand. Edge have less power than Plus in any aspect (CPU, memory, etc.) and it still have 28% of system memory free with the same configuration where Plus had only 2% free? How?
The only difference is that Datamine Plugin don't work on Edge right now (I left the controller without any USB stick attached, so there is no logging possible).
Is it really because of Datamine activity?

If yes, then is there a better solution to track system dana (with history) out there?
I know there is Datayours, but I've never got through configuration of that plugin. It tells me about configuring servers and other thigs like that with which I'm totally not familiar. And not sure if it is better?
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Nameless on May 19, 2018, 02:37:23 pm
Well, I decided to take the plunge due to issues with a couple Zwave devices going offline randomly. I've been using the very old 1.7.2935 firmware on my Plus because of the issues I've read about with so many other firmware versions. This update to 1.7.3831 seemed to go smooth, with just 1 sensor not wanting to configure. That sensor has been a problem for me, so I'm about to replace it anyway.

Upon further inspection, I found that none of my 4 WeMo plugs would work, nor would they correctly show their status on the Dashboard. I have 2 of them installed using the actual WeMo plugin and 2 installed using cybrmage's unsupported UDP/WiFi plugin. After mashing the buttons down on the Dashboard for 10 minutes, I finally got 1 to respond on the UDP/WiFi plugin. Then, I got 1 of the other WeMo plugs working that uses the regular plugin.

Looking a little deeper, I realized the notification bar was inactive, so I activated that. I then found 4 device files are failing to load their implementation files. I pulled a device list to see what they are and they are not the WeMo devices. I can't seem to figure out what they actually are, though. One of the mystery devices uses D_FUP_uuid Socket-1_0-221626K01044D0.xml as the implementation file. Any ideas what this may be?

I'm not contacting support yet, hoping the Plus will auto-magically heal overnight tonight. If no improvements by morning, I may contact support to see what my options are.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: cybrmage on May 19, 2018, 05:12:02 pm
One of the mystery devices uses D_FUP_uuid Socket-1_0-221626K01044D0.xml as the implementation file. Any ideas what this may be?

"Socket-1_0-221626K01044D0" is the UPNP Unique ID of a wemo plug... The D_FUP... xml file name is part of the (highly flawed and no longer functional) mios UPNP "remote control" system.

You need to turn off UPNP device detection...
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Nameless on May 19, 2018, 08:16:39 pm
One of the mystery devices uses D_FUP_uuid Socket-1_0-221626K01044D0.xml as the implementation file. Any ideas what this may be?

"Socket-1_0-221626K01044D0" is the UPNP Unique ID of a wemo plug... The D_FUP... xml file name is part of the (highly flawed and no longer functional) mios UPNP "remote control" system.

You need to turn off UPNP device detection...
I appreciate the info. I have attempted to turn off the UPNP device detection, but must be missing something to it. I thought there would be a simple setting to do this, but seems I'm wrong.
These are the steps I've done so far:
1. I went ahead and removed the UPNP plugin along with the device it creates. Multiple reboots.
2. I've disabled "Auto detect devices on my home network".
3. I've unchecked the Enable UPNP discovery within the Security Settings.
I'm still getting those error messages. I am finding the WeMo devices are all functioning correctly, though. Any other steps I should be taking? Thank you.
Title: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Don Phillips on May 21, 2018, 08:36:15 pm
I updated to 1030, this time, asking Customer Care to do it since I do not have enough memory. Created a ticket last night, after doing a full back. Woke up to a non-working system. Reboot, did a restore, and all is working fine.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: 3rdStng on May 24, 2018, 12:56:29 am
I am out of space after the upgrade as well. I don't think my DataMine 2 is the issue since I am using a USB stick for the logs. Any other ideas to clear up space to resolve my "cannot write" errors?

Also I think I found an issue as well. When I go into the advanced editor of my scene's, the SetLoadTargetLevel option displays a blank field. And of course I cannot edit and save the scene due to the out of space issue.

Oh yeah. And my On/Off switches are showing as a Plug module instead of a light bulb like they did in the previous version.
Title: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Don Phillips on May 24, 2018, 08:17:26 pm
Oh yeah. And my On/Off switches are showing as a Plug module instead of a light bulb like they did in the previous version.

I changed subcategory numbers to fix the icons: http://wiki.micasaverde.com/index.php/Luup_Device_Categories
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: wulften on May 25, 2018, 04:59:22 am
Updated without any problem, system (Vera Plus) as stable as ever :)
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: trygve on May 26, 2018, 12:15:59 pm
Upgraded mye Vera Edge without any problems. Everything seems to work as it should.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: krementz on May 27, 2018, 08:40:30 am
I have three Veraplus in two locations. I updated the home Vera (when I was present), seemed fine.

Set in on vacation mode for some on/off lights. Now I'm away at cottage, it has gone beserk. It is interpreting every movement in the cottage (detected by Ecobee sensors and plugin) as an alarm, and notifying my via email, etc. None of the sensors were uses for an alarm signal, none were part of any scenes, and notifications were off.

The two Veras at the cottage were not updated, and are not showing alarms. I deleted the Ecobee plugin entirely (along with the 50 odd devices it created.) I was not really using the Ecobees with Vera, and with all the memory issues, etc. being discussed under the Leaving Vera thread, I thought getting rid would clean up some memory issues.  I assumed the overnight refreshes would flush out any remaining tidbits of code.

Now, overnight, I am STILL getting occupancy notifications, even though there is no sensor!

I've ordered a Homeseer.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: strat on May 27, 2018, 11:10:29 am
Took the upgrade on a veralite. It failed to fully restart, but following instruction posted erased a flash partition and it came up with the new firmware.

That said missing all Everspring door sensors where after 5+ hours of fooling around I'm unable to get them back all of the time. Restoring from a backup recovered the sensors and clearly they are communicating with the Veralite, but after a reboot they are gone again.

Also I have a two-button Leviton controller, configured per this forum so it can be used as more than a scene controller, is dead to the world. Attempts to exclude or delete result in the a "cannot configure device" error. I accidentally reset the Leviton and but the Veralite appears to still know about the device even after a delete the buttons show under a generic name.

Reading countless posts it is suggested to have customer service log into the controller. I really don't want to have the company logging into a device on my network, especially if I don't understand what they are doing. Is this the only option short of trashing the Veralite?

Edit: Following the advice posted by some random person in another thread...I completely rebuilt the Veralite. Basically I have most of the devices back after running around the house. That said scenes and plugins will take a considerable amount of time to reconstruct.
 
Title: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: Don Phillips on May 27, 2018, 12:12:56 pm
I have three Veraplus in two locations. I updated the home Vera (when I was present), seemed fine.

Set in on vacation mode for some on/off lights. Now I'm away at cottage, it has gone beserk. It is interpreting every movement in the cottage (detected by Ecobee sensors and plugin) as an alarm, and notifying my via email, etc. None of the sensors were uses for an alarm signal, none were part of any scenes, and notifications were off.

The two Veras at the cottage were not updated, and are not showing alarms. I deleted the Ecobee plugin entirely (along with the 50 odd devices it created.) I was not really using the Ecobees with Vera, and with all the memory issues, etc. being discussed under the Leaving Vera thread, I thought getting rid would clean up some memory issues.  I assumed the overnight refreshes would flush out any remaining tidbits of code.

Now, overnight, I am STILL getting occupancy notifications, even though there is no sensor!

I've ordered a Homeseer.

I did notice some changes to device subcategories for some switches. I had to tweak them and now do not appear in the all on/off on the main UI page. Perhaps some of those sensors need new subcategories.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: 3rdStng on May 28, 2018, 08:38:41 pm
Oh yeah. And my On/Off switches are showing as a Plug module instead of a light bulb like they did in the previous version.

I changed subcategory numbers to fix the icons: http://wiki.micasaverde.com/index.php/Luup_Device_Categories

My sub-categories are not sticking. I left my category as 3 and changed my sub-cat from 1 to 3, since these are in-wall switches. Rebooted, twice, and even pulled the power. When I reconnect my browser it is still showing appliance modules. Minor cosmetic issue at this point. Any other suggestions?
EDIT: Actually the sub-category stuck, but the icon is not changing. Within Advanced, I see Cat 3 and Sub-Cat 3 as well. IIRC, Vera said this was a known issue and would be fixed in the next release.

On a side note, I cleared up some room in my storage and after a few days, my scenes are saving again and my advanced editor is showing the whole field, with it's value. Seems to me that the lack of storage was causing the scene issues.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: AlexanderB on May 29, 2018, 09:52:10 am
This morning I upgraded my VeraPlus to V. 1.7.3831
This was the first time everything went well after an upgrade. After the upgrade the memory usage is much more stable.
Looks promising....  ;D
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: melsman on May 29, 2018, 01:41:34 pm
Updated my VeraEdge to 1.7.3830 a few days ago.  The conversion went smoothly and so far, everything is working well - maybe even a bit better than before.  I was concerned about my multiple virtual devices and the MyQ proxy going haywire, but everything is running without a hitch.   :)

I did have on of my battery sensors (a garage door tilt sensor) not reset after the upgrade, but cycling the door got it back in phase. I've had the same issue with prior UI7 firmware versions, so I don't see this as an upgrade issue.

Melsman
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: cw-kid on June 05, 2018, 03:19:54 pm
I just updated my Euro VeraPlus from version 1.7.3532 to version 1.7.3831

Had a quick look over the devices and scenes in the UI7 web GUI and visually everything looks to be OK and present. Also checked over the installed plug-ins list which looks to be correct as well.

The firmware of the Z-Wave chip has been updated also from version 4.5 L:1 to version 6.1 L:1

I looked at the storage before and after see screen shots.

Before:

rootfs                     Used 6.3M  - Available 2.3M - 73%
dev/mtdblock7        Used 6.3M  - Available 2.3M - 73%
overlayfs:/overlay   Used 6.3M  - Available 2.3M - 73%

After:

rootfs                     Used 7.0M  - Available 1.7M - 81%
dev/mtdblock7        Used 7.0M  - Available 1.7M - 81%
overlayfs:/overlay   Used 7.0M  - Available 1.7M - 81%

tmpfs went from 1% to 3%

Will have to monitor to see if everything is actually still working OK, but looks good so far.

One thing I am noticing now, is that a new Fibaro FGS-223 double switch relay in the web GUI is showing two plug socket icons.

Its category number is 3 and the sub category is 1

However an older Fibaro FGS211 single relay is showing a light bulb icon.

Its category number is 3 and the sub category is 0

Both of these devices under Advanced are using the following:

Device Type: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:BinaryLight:1
Device_File: D_BinaryLight1.xml
Device_Json: D_BinaryLight1.json

Not sure what type of icons they were before the update.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: HSD99 on June 05, 2018, 03:38:55 pm
The latest firmware made some changes to categories and subcategories. For me, the changes more accurately reflect what is actually connected, especially for plug-in appliance modules. You can change the category and subcategory if you would like the older behavior.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: cw-kid on June 05, 2018, 05:15:04 pm
Yeah for some of my appliance plugs and relays I changed their sub category from 0 to 1 and now they are also showing a "plug" icon instead of the light bulb icon.  ;D
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: cw-kid on June 06, 2018, 02:03:17 pm
Since the firmware upgrade my Fibaro Dimmer 2 module is now showing "Can't detect device" again  :o
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: fyford on June 07, 2018, 08:36:56 am
cw-kid did you manage to resolve that? I have the same with all my Fibraro 3in1 sensors and my front door sensor.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: cw-kid on June 07, 2018, 11:15:21 am
cw-kid did you manage to resolve that? I have the same with all my Fibraro 3in1 sensors and my front door sensor.

It's been a problem on and off for a long time with the Fibaro Dimmer 2's showing the "Can't detect device" message.

I have other Fibaro relays and none of them have ever shown that message.

On the Dimmer 2 device yesterday in its settings I set "Automatically configure" to NO and so far the message hasn't come back yet.

Can't remember if I did that before the firmware upgrade to suppress the message appearing but maybe the update lost that setting.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: cw-kid on June 07, 2018, 11:17:08 am
Should mention I don't have any battery operated Fibaro sensors only Fibaro Dimmer 2 and Fibaro Relay / RGBW modules on the mains.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: capjay on June 09, 2018, 07:17:03 pm
I've bitten the bullet, and just updated to FW 1.7.3830.. Appears that everything went good, *except* for my door sensors  :(

I have multiple Ecolink and Schlage door sensors (same model but different brands, some are Z-Wave Plus) they used to work real good, even at relatively far places from the controller. After the update, the door sensors that are far from the controller either fail to report their status or take a long time to report to the controller (LED indicator on the sensor turns on for a long time as opposed to before the updated where it blinks once quickly) also lots of wrong readings. This behavior only happened after the update.. All my battery-powered sensors are surrounded by outlet-powered Z-Wave devices that support routing.. Anyone facing a similar issue? I wonder if something is wrong with Z-Wave routing for battery-powered devices ?!

Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: HSD99 on June 10, 2018, 12:24:56 pm
I've bitten the bullet, and just updated to FW 1.7.3830.. Appears that everything went good, *except* for my door sensors  :(

I have multiple Ecolink and Schlage door sensors (same model but different brands, some are Z-Wave Plus) they used to work real good, even at relatively far places from the controller. After the update, the door sensors that are far from the controller either fail to report their status or take a long time to report to the controller (LED indicator on the sensor turns on for a long time as opposed to before the updated where it blinks once quickly) also lots of wrong readings. This behavior only happened after the update.. All my battery-powered sensors are surrounded by outlet-powered Z-Wave devices that support routing.. Anyone facing a similar issue? I wonder if something is wrong with Z-Wave routing for battery-powered devices ?!
Wake them up and send the "Configure node right now" command. Fixed the issue for me.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: 3rdStng on June 13, 2018, 03:23:09 pm
The latest firmware made some changes to categories and subcategories. For me, the changes more accurately reflect what is actually connected, especially for plug-in appliance modules. You can change the category and subcategory if you would like the older behavior.
Yeah for some of my appliance plugs and relays I changed their sub category from 0 to 1 and now they are also showing a "plug" icon instead of the light bulb icon.  ;D
I raised this concern in my open ticket and heard back that the icon change was intentionally done by the developers. I personally liked a Light Bulb for my in wall switches and not the Outlet module looking icon, but it is only cosmetic.
One thing I did notice though was that once you change the subcategory away from 0, you cannot set it back to 0. But I also wouldn't want to. At least for my GE in wall switches, when they are a Category 3 subcategory 0, they are not included in the ALL ON/OFF button on the main dashboard.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: cw-kid on June 13, 2018, 03:27:04 pm
I agree a bulb icon is better for in wall dimmer modules / switches.

But for my appliance plugs and some other relays I prefer the plug icon.
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: 3rdStng on June 13, 2018, 03:31:15 pm
I agree a bulb icon is better for in wall dimmer modules / switches.

But for my appliance plugs and some other relays I prefer the plug icon.
Couldn't agree more. I suggested that Vera add an additional sub category to bring the light bulb as an icon into the selection. The response was that if I switched the subcategory to 4, it shows as a light bulb. To which my response was "Yes it does, but this is the "Refrigerator" category and again, would not participate in the ALL ON/OFF button on the dashboard."
Title: Re: UI7 ▾ Vera Software Update ▾ Version 7.0.26 (1.7.1028/1.7.3797/1.7.3798/1.7.3799
Post by: therealdb on June 13, 2018, 04:40:26 pm
If you want to have it on the web interface, you just need to create a specific JSON file.
It will probably keep to have a switch icon in the mobile apps anyway.