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Title: WiFi on Vera Plus (Resolved)
Post by: emiliosic on February 19, 2016, 11:53:10 pm
Got a Vera Plus as a replacement for a Vera Lite. Before I migrate, wanted to familiarize with the new unit; and I'm confused about its Wi-Fi:
It's using latest firmware 1.7.1754.
Vera Plus seems to be acting as a WiFi router, but I wanted to be able to be able to connect to it via WiFi instead.
Under Settings -> Net & WiFi, I see the settings for WAN (Ethernet) and LAN (WiFi).
I don't see how Vera can join a WiFi Network and get an IP address and gateway from WiFi, it works on Ethernet (WAN).

Also, on WiFi, I don't see how to rename the 5Ghz SSID nor how to select the channel. For 2.4Ghz, it lets me pick a channel but has no auto.
If it were working in client mode; there would be no channel to pick.

BTW: There are no more Z-Wave pair / unfair buttons. There are two new ones: Pair and Select.
I have no idea what these are for.


Starting with firmware Version 7.0.21 ▾ June 19, 2017. Wifi client mode has been enabled in VeraPlus : https://goo.gl/r4iuQT (https://goo.gl/r4iuQT)
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 20, 2016, 01:19:43 am
See below, but I would recommend you plug you vera into the router and leave it next to the router. both should be central to the house.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: mbc2237 on February 20, 2016, 01:49:52 pm
See below, but I would recommend you plug you vera into the router and leave it next to the router. both should be central to the house.

Are you on a VeraPlus or Edge?  I am on the Plus.

I do not have that option.  I have Automatically configure and Manually configure.  I have been searching everywhere over the last few days with no success on how to get this going. 
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: Trotsky40 on February 20, 2016, 02:10:42 pm
Select "manually configure" and additional options appear.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: mbc2237 on February 20, 2016, 03:33:16 pm
Select "manually configure" and additional options appear.

Thanks for the reply.  nope.  Again, I don't think that us VeraPlus users are just missing it.  I don't believe it is there.  Can someone with a VeraPlus confirm that the wifi options for doing a network are there?

I have attached the entire screen.  I am also on the same firmware as OP.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 21, 2016, 01:34:08 am
Select "manually configure" and additional options appear.

Thanks for the reply.  nope.  Again, I don't think that us VeraPlus users are just missing it.  I don't believe it is there.  Can someone with a VeraPlus confirm that the wifi options for doing a network are there?

I have attached the entire screen.  I am also on the same firmware as OP.

You two have already confirmed it's not there, so we believe you. The edge didn't have it either for the first 6 months. It's also not recommend to use.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: mbc2237 on February 21, 2016, 11:53:36 am
Of course a wired connection is always more reliable but with the battery backups I have for both my router/modem and the Vera, I have been running for a few years on my lite in that configuration with no issues. But I am keeping my lite as a slave and trying to avoid purchasing another AP for the Plus, a device that contains the ability to perform this function. I was hoping that someone would already have a workaround or know how to enable it. I know it took a while for the edge to gain this funtionality and was hoping, due to the high demand for this funtionality, would be enabled out of the box.

I know the moment I buy another AP, there will be a way to do this. I'll just keep lurking the forums for a bit before I throw in the towel.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: u20111223 on February 21, 2016, 01:12:41 pm
Had the same problem.  This worked on VeraEdge and Vera2.  Here's the response from support.  Hopefully they will release an update soon.

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We are very sorry but for the moment, VeraPlus doesn?t have the feature to connect to the Internet wirelessly.This is in our developer?s to do list and should be included into one of the future software versions. Be sure to check our release notes page to find out the fixes and improvements with each update:

http://support.getvera.com/customer/portal/topics/666697-release-notes/articles
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 21, 2016, 03:21:19 pm
I know it took a while for the edge to gain this funtionality and was hoping, due to the high demand for this funtionality, would be enabled out of the box.

I perosnally don't think wifi is high demand on the vera and would guess that 90% of users disable the wifi out of the box.

I am also unaware of how the vera lite was connected in this way since it doesn't have a wifi radio in it? USB?

Also since the wifi router, and vera should be in the center of the house and they both run on battery backup they should be sitting side by side. Which means a .30 cent cat5 cable would do the trick.

I'm sure vera will get it going sooner or later just like on the edge, and the right thing that has been done is to open support tickets for it. More there is the better your chances of getting it resolved. I encourage everyone needing this to open a ticket to help out.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: mbc2237 on February 21, 2016, 03:48:42 pm
My router is in the back of the house.  No issues getting wifi anywhere in the house.  Vera is in the kitchen as the radio will not reach the edges of the house/outside.  No way to easily get an ethernet cable to it without it really being a pita. 
The way i have the lite connected is through the ethernet port via a TP nano router powered through the VeraLite USB port.  Don't recall the exact model but found the solution via this forum.  They are only 20 bucks or so but the best solution is to use the hardware already present in the VeraPlus.  Thanks to previous poster for adding that they [Vera] have made a response on it.    I'll also open a ticket to simply show there is interest. 

I will also disable the wifi rebroadcast if i am able to and still use the radio in client mode.  I currently have the radio off as of this post.  As you mentioned, I think that a small minority of the users have much interest in using the Plus as a DHCP server and/or creating a wifi network with it.

I also think having a wired connection is much more important to boxes like the smart hub where logic is stored in the cloud.  Losing internet means a dead box.  On the Vera, an loss of connection only means not being able to access it from out of the network.  All functions will continue to perform.  Saying that one should not use it wireless is similar to staying that you should not use a wireless cam, wirelessly, because of the unreliable connection.  In situations where people are using their box to perform critical security/fire functions, which is also not suggested, a hardwired connection would mean one less point of failure. 
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 21, 2016, 06:42:15 pm
My router is in the back of the house.  No issues getting wifi anywhere in the house.  Vera is in the kitchen as the radio will not reach the edges of the house/outside.  No way to easily get an ethernet cable to it without it really being a pita. 
The way i have the lite connected is through the ethernet port via a TP nano router powered through the VeraLite USB port.  Don't recall the exact model but found the solution via this forum.  They are only 20 bucks or so but the best solution is to use the hardware already present in the VeraPlus.  Thanks to previous poster for adding that they [Vera] have made a response on it.    I'll also open a ticket to simply show there is interest. 

I will also disable the wifi rebroadcast if i am able to and still use the radio in client mode.  I currently have the radio off as of this post.  As you mentioned, I think that a small minority of the users have much interest in using the Plus as a DHCP server and/or creating a wifi network with it.

I also think having a wired connection is much more important to boxes like the smart hub where logic is stored in the cloud.  Losing internet means a dead box.  On the Vera, an loss of connection only means not being able to access it from out of the network.  All functions will continue to perform.  Saying that one should not use it wireless is similar to staying that you should not use a wireless cam, wirelessly, because of the unreliable connection.  In situations where people are using their box to perform critical security/fire functions, which is also not suggested, a hardwired connection would mean one less point of failure.

If vera disconnects from wifi you also loose local control, any plugins that use IP and other functions also not just internet or cloud based items. It will disconnect from local network also. You could combat this by haveing it ping another device on the network maybe even the router so you can boot to try and get wifi to auto connect. But yes wireless speed and reliablity is not that of wired. And wireless router would be better placed in the center of house vs. back corner also. Sometimes this involves work and that's were the Mickey comes out.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: mbc2237 on February 21, 2016, 10:55:02 pm
After 3 years with the Lite on a wireless connection and not a single issue <knocks on wood>, I'll stick with the wireless route.

Had I thought of it just prior to deciding to start the HA ride, I would have wired it when I was rebuilding my entire house.  But, I didn't and that ship has sailed.  I spent a bit of time debating on running cat5 through the house but realized, at the time, that there was nothing I needed it for.  Don't think I would have run it to the kitchen back then anyway, so I'd still be in the same boat. 

Thanks for being a part of the community integlikewhoa. 
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: shallowearth on February 22, 2016, 12:21:37 am
Just buy a wired to wireless wi-Fi adapter like these http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004UAKCS6?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
they are low cost and work fine.  Since my VeraEdge needed to be by my security board (USB to Serial Cable)  I didn't have a wired connection availed in that location.  And never could get the wifi on the Edge to work.

Works great have never had a problem with it (just make sure to reserve a static IP address for it on your router).  I have never seen a reliability difference between my wired vs wireless devices, my wired connection is a little faster (like for the gaming console), but that irrelevant for something like the Vera.

Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: emiliosic on February 22, 2016, 01:09:55 pm
Yes it can work paired with an AP, powerline, etc.; but that's not the point. It is advertised that WiFi is supported; with WiFi certification logos on the box. It has a decent 802.11AC, simultaneous dual-band WiFi radio; it runs on a modified version on OpenWRT; so it's something new customers buying this would expect to work.
Now, a good reason for this to work is when pairing new devices. Sometimes it's best to have Vera right next to the Z-Wave device that is being paired.
Vera Lite had a special mode when running on AA batteries to pair and unpair Z-Wave devices. Vera edge has no pairing buttons; so it would have to be set into pairing mode from a web browser.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: Slartibartfast on February 22, 2016, 01:15:11 pm
Yes it can work paired with an AP, powerline, etc.; but that's not the point. It is advertised that WiFi is supported; with WiFi certification logos on the box. It has a decent 802.11AC, simultaneous dual-band WiFi radio; it runs on a modified version on OpenWRT; so it's something new customers buying this would expect to work.
I think everyone will agree that having this facility would be useful and I am sure that eventually it will be implemented as it was on the Edge. Unfortunately, it is not available at the moment and we have to work around this.
I imagine that with a new product release, Vera are very busy at the moment sorting initial teething problems and this will not be high on their priority list. I suggest that you log your request for this feature with them as the more people that request it, the sooner it may happen.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: u20111223 on February 22, 2016, 02:41:27 pm
Sometimes it's best to have Vera right next to the Z-Wave device that is being paired.

This is one of the compelling reasons to have it.  One problem with VeraPlus and maybe others is that with no wifi you can't get the device in exclusion mode and remove the devices if they are far away.  I suppose you could cobble up a wireline Ethernet adapter then move it around the house.

What I ended up doing in the absence of wifi is to use the old Vera2 battery pack.  Power up VeraPlus connected to the Ethernet.  Select delete/unpair, wait for the 60 second countdown timer, then disconnect the Ethernet and take it next to the device you are removing.  Keep it there for 1-2 minutes then reconnect it to the Ethernet.  Not ideal, but it is a workaround.  If you have devices that are having trouble and they are far away, you have to take Vera next to the device.  I have found no other way around it.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: u20111223 on February 22, 2016, 02:47:49 pm
I suggest that you log your request for this feature with them as the more people that request it, the sooner it may happen.

Not sure I can agree that this is a feature enhancement as must as I view it as a feature omission in order to ship the product.  I'd like to see this addressed soon so we would be at parity with previous products.  Personally, I wish I had just stayed with VeraEdge.  The only benefit that I've seen with VeraPlus so far is the speed.  Hopefully the firmware releases will appear more regularly and they can get this working.

Here's the case #161312 for the WiFi client issue.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: Z-Waver on February 22, 2016, 04:05:52 pm
It is advertised that WiFi is supported; with WiFi certification logos on the box. ....so it's something new customers buying this would expect to work.
This is a perfectly legitimate complaint. The complete absence of a feature advertised on the box should never have been allowed to ship. Since it has shipped, it should be a topmost priority for Vera Ltd. to get the feature implemented immediately. I see a lot of unreasonable whinging on the forums, but this is a completely indefensible omission on the part of Vera Ltd.


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Vera edge has no pairing buttons; so it would have to be set into pairing mode from a web browser./quote]This is incorrect. EVERY Vera including the Edge and the Plus have pairing buttons. While it may be easier to include via a browser, it is not a requirement for any Vera. Vera Edge/Plus can be plugged in next to the Z-Wave device, press the Include(paring) button on Vera and press the Include button on the device.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: Slartibartfast on February 22, 2016, 04:51:15 pm
It is advertised that WiFi is supported; with WiFi certification logos on the box. ....so it's something new customers buying this would expect to work.
This is a perfectly legitimate complaint. The complete absence of a feature advertised on the box should never have been allowed to ship. Since it has shipped, it should be a topmost priority for Vera Ltd. to get the feature implemented immediately. I see a lot of unreasonable whinging on the forums, but this is a completely indefensible omission on the part of Vera Ltd.


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Vera edge has no pairing buttons; so it would have to be set into pairing mode from a web browser./quote]This is incorrect. EVERY Vera including the Edge and the Plus have pairing buttons. While it may be easier to include via a browser, it is not a requirement for any Vera. Vera Edge/Plus can be plugged in next to the Z-Wave device, press the Include(paring) button on Vera and press the Include button on the device.

Devils advocate - Wifi is supported. The plus can act as a wifi hub. Perhaps this is not what you want but I am sure it could be argued.

Also, We have already seen that Vera are happy to offer people their money back if they are not happy with their purchase. (One buyer had his order cancelled from under him). Arguing that they have broken their contract will not win popularity contests
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 22, 2016, 06:30:07 pm
This is one of the compelling reasons to have it.  One problem with VeraPlus and maybe others is that with no wifi you can't get the device in exclusion mode and remove the devices if they are far away. 

This is untrue. you don't need wifi to include and exclude devices. There is buttons on the side of the device to do this. The zwave light blinks fast and slow depending on which mode your in.

You only need internet to the vera during this process if your trying to use a web UI to do it. And even then you can turn wifi on your vera and connect your laptop or phone to the wireless of the vera and access it. 
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: u20111223 on February 22, 2016, 07:10:46 pm
you don't need wifi to include and exclude devices. There is buttons on the side of the device to do this. The zwave light blinks fast and slow depending on which mode your in.

You only need internet to the vera during this process if your trying to use a web UI to do it. And even then you can turn wifi on your vera and connect your laptop or phone to the wireless of the vera and access it.

Good to know.  That never even occurred to me.  I did play around with getting a getty running over the Bluetooth though.  My preference is still to use the wifi client to connect it to my network.  You would have saved me hours this weekend with that solution.  I think I've reset my entire unit no less than 20 times playing with the wifi driver.  Good thing it has a hard reset button.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: dzmiller on February 29, 2016, 02:54:11 pm
After 3 years with the Lite on a wireless connection and not a single issue <knocks on wood>, I'll stick with the wireless route.

.....

I agree that these devices should work well on wifi. it's best to place the device optimally for zwave. That location may often be away from the router.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: tjtrolinger on June 03, 2016, 03:03:11 pm
I am new and just received my VeraPlus.
Everything was going great until I realized VeraPlus cannot connect to my network using Wifi.
I plan to connect the VeraPlus to my alarm system using AD2USB which will be hard wired to the alarm panel and connects to the Vera USB port. However, I have no wired ethernet near my alarm panel.
I feel a  mislead that it was not made clear in the marketing information that out of the box, the VeraPlus could only connect to the users network via wired ethernet.
I agree with others here that this feature should be made a priority!
TJ
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: integlikewhoa on June 04, 2016, 05:28:44 pm
I am new and just received my VeraPlus.
Everything was going great until I realized VeraPlus cannot connect to my network using Wifi.
I plan to connect the VeraPlus to my alarm system using AD2USB which will be hard wired to the alarm panel and connects to the Vera USB port. However, I have no wired ethernet near my alarm panel.
I feel a  mislead that it was not made clear in the marketing information that out of the box, the VeraPlus could only connect to the users network via wired ethernet.
I agree with others here that this feature should be made a priority!
TJ

Looks like its time to run some cat5e and the envisalink evl-4 gives your alarm panel connect alot more options.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: chuck1026 on November 25, 2016, 08:20:38 pm
Resurrecting this one... I have finally had some time to phase out Vera3 and VeraEdge to be 100% on one VeraPlus. I want to use wifi to connect to my LAN instead of Cat5/6.

I figured by now it would be in the latest firmware but ... no?

Did I miss it?

If not, when is this being added?

Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: Z-Waver on November 26, 2016, 08:04:23 am
You figured wrong.

The ability for UI7 Veras to operate in WiFi Client mode is still not an option. You can't configure 5GHz 802.11a mode either. If you are adept with Linux you can probably get it going through the command line. Although, I haven't looked into this, so I'm not sure all the pieces are there.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: chuck1026 on November 26, 2016, 11:22:06 am
You figured wrong.

The ability for UI7 Veras to operate in WiFi Client mode is still not an option. You can't configure 5GHz 802.11a mode either. If you are adept with Linux you can probably get it going through the command line. Although, I haven't looked into this, so I'm not sure all the pieces are there.

I am really close to taking my 4 years of Vera, excluding all of the devices, boxing up and selling the Vera controllers and trying somebody else's gateway... Red faced mad at the moment. Going over to Facebook to rattle Marc as he seems to be able to get our message thru most of the time.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: hax0rmort on December 02, 2016, 01:31:13 am
I wouldn't waste your time.   
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: cb4 on December 17, 2016, 09:16:36 pm
Just bought my first set of z-wave outlets - going to use them to control Christmas lights inside the house. How the hell am I supposed to get my vera plus within 10ft of a z-wave outlet so I can pair it if I can't use wifi??? I have cat6 run to every room in my house, but not necessarily within 10ft of every outlet!!!

Without wifi, Vera engineering is telling me I have to uninstall an outlet near my router (the Vera is plugged in there), install the z-wave outlet, pair, uninstall the z-wave outlet, re-install the original outlet, and finally install the z-wave outlet in its correct location. Does anyone else think this is *ridiculous*? I'm a computer engineer. Adding client wifi support can *not* be that hard.

Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 17, 2016, 11:46:09 pm
Just bought my first set of z-wave outlets - going to use them to control Christmas lights inside the house. How the hell am I supposed to get my vera plus within 10ft of a z-wave outlet so I can pair it if I can't use wifi??? I have cat6 run to every room in my house, but not necessarily within 10ft of every outlet!!!

Without wifi, Vera engineering is telling me I have to uninstall an outlet near my router (the Vera is plugged in there), install the z-wave outlet, pair, uninstall the z-wave outlet, re-install the original outlet, and finally install the z-wave outlet in its correct location. Does anyone else think this is *ridiculous*? I'm a computer engineer. Adding client wifi support can *not* be that hard.

Where do you come up with 10ft? Devices can communicate alot further then 10ft. Some security devices like door locks need to be closer but even then more then 10ft can work. In smaller houses 1500sf or less single story houses, I can almost include every light switch in the house without moving the controller even once. If your using newer z-wave plus devices they can included threw the mesh at even further distances. start with closer devices and move out.

 
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: shallowearth on December 18, 2016, 12:38:23 am
Just get of of these guys https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004UAKCS6/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 or something similar to connect your Vera to Wi-fi been running my Vera Edge for 2 years this way, network connect has been completely solid.

You other option would be to get one of those power line adapters to run a network connection through your outlets to your location(though probably more expensive)
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: Z-Waver on December 18, 2016, 09:42:25 am
How the hell am I supposed to get my vera plus within 10ft of a z-wave outlet so I can pair it if I can't use wifi???...

...I'm a computer engineer.
If you can't answer the above question yourself, with several easy and viable options, then I'd have to say that you aren't a very good computer engineer(whatever that is exactly).

You could use a long ethernet cable.
You could include the outlet before installing it to a remote location.
You could try including in situ, even if it does exceed 10 feet.
You could use a WiFi bridge such as the TP-Link N300 (http://amzn.to/2hIJYLG)
You could set a manual IP address and plug a laptop into the Vera directly.
You could connect a tablet/laptop/desktop as a client to the Vera AP network and configure that way.

Or, you could just plug Vera into the outlet(for power) and then use the pairing buttons on Vera to include the outlet into Vera.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 18, 2016, 11:44:53 am
How the hell am I supposed to get my vera plus within 10ft of a z-wave outlet so I can pair it if I can't use wifi???...

...I'm a computer engineer.
If you can't answer the above question yourself, with several easy and viable options, then I'd have to say that you aren't a very good computer engineer(whatever that is exactly).

Ahahahaha

Maybe, they just normally call network engineers to move their computers 10ft over.  ;D
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: jswim788 on December 18, 2016, 12:48:33 pm
In fairness to Vera, this is somewhat a limitation of the Z-wave protocol.  And that is corrected in the Z-wave Plus where it allows network wide inclusion.  Although I'm curious to know how well that works in a mixed network which is what most of us will have.  So far I've gotten away with the "just include it anyway even though the controller is more than 10 feet away" but sooner or later I will probably need the very long Ethernet cable approach.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 19, 2016, 12:27:38 pm
In fairness to Vera, this is somewhat a limitation of the Z-wave protocol. 

I see where your trying to go with this but really the thread started asking about why WiFi Client mode doesn't work like it should or like it worked on older veras. That is totally VERA's fault. Limitation of z-wave range or inclusion range is a different issue and yes that is changing but no thanks to Vera.

And that is corrected in the Z-wave Plus where it allows network wide inclusion.  Although I'm curious to know how well that works in a mixed network which is what most of us will have.  So far I've gotten away with the "just include it anyway even though the controller is more than 10 feet away" but sooner or later I will probably need the very long Ethernet cable approach.

10ft wouldn't even reach across my smaller bedrooms in the house and my experience (even with my kwikset 910 door locks) I have not had to be any closer then 40-50 plus feet to include devices my self. Detached garages I have had to move closer to include but thats about it. Biggest thing has always been veras instructions recommending you to come within 3ft to include, which some people try to follow to the "T" even if it isn't always needed. Other thing is vera has always had buttons on the device to manually inlcude without a network wire or wireless connected. But it's not as nice or easy to use that so people don;t like that solution either.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: Peren on December 30, 2016, 06:21:51 am
Hi

I tired of this product (VeraPlus) not living up to what they say it can do.
Will be back to my house in a week and the this I will not swear will be shipped back.

Missing the wifi!!! (Also missing time stamp on sensor and the latest values which my earlier simple 20$ controller did,)
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: gregreid on May 01, 2017, 08:09:02 pm
I received a VeraPlus today as an upgrade to my old trusty Vera3 ... and then found out that it doesn't support a WiFi connection to my access point?!?!?  This is an upgrade?????

It took me a while to find this forum and see that Vera developers were talking back in Feb 2016 that this connectivity would be "coming soon".  Here we are 14 months later and still nada.

As others have noted, I have a mixed bag of mostly older Zwave devices.  In fact I have only 10 Zwave+ devices (new Bali motorized blinds) that were the reason for my upgrade to a Zwave+ capable controller.  To pair the older devices, I need to have my controller within a few feet.  This was convenient with the WiFi connectivity of the Vera controller to my AP.  Geesh, some of these devices are a long long way away. 

And the most central point of my house for my Zwave devices is a room where I do not have an ethernet cable running.  I'm either going to have to run a long ethernet cable to that room, or relocate the VeraPlus.  But I simply don't have another ethernet PORT available on either of my routers.  They're all used by home theater related gizmos.  Dammit. 

Miffed,
     Greg
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: Peren on May 02, 2017, 08:35:47 am
This is a must have feature for me to!

So tierd of Vera always answer this with, coming soon!
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: RichardTSchaefer on May 02, 2017, 01:11:16 pm
Just connect your Laptop the Vera  Wifi  ... not your home Wifi.
You can move your Vera Plus around to do the exclude/include dance which is a pain on UI7 if you need to exclude first (you have to wait for the include to fail!)
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: Z-Waver on May 03, 2017, 09:09:28 am
Yup, that's what I said.
You could connect a tablet/laptop/desktop as a client to the Vera AP network and configure that way.

Also,
a pain on UI7 if you need to exclude first (you have to wait for the include to fail!)
It's completely unintuitive, but it turns out that you don't have to wait. If you click Next, without waiting, it immediately takes you from Include to Exclude mode.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: ALcALoIDe on May 11, 2017, 11:02:33 am
So, after installing everything, one may assume that you can turn veraplus wifi off?
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: gregreid on May 12, 2017, 09:55:59 am
So, after installing everything, one may assume that you can turn veraplus wifi off?

Yup, that's what I've done.  Turned off the VeraPlus WiFi 'coz it's not offering anything for my needs.  I don't have any WiFi home automation devices; all ZWave.

For my VeraPlus connectivity, I blew the dust off an old TP-Link TL-WA860RE (WiFi range extender) and installed it in the Office.  This is where my Vera is more centrally located to all of the ZWave devices it controls, but where I don't yet have an ethernet cable run.  The range extender connects to my usual GregsWifi access point and rebroadcasts a GregsWifi_Office.  It also provides for a single ethernet port, which I use to connect my VeraPlus.  So now I effectively have WiFi connectivity to my VeraPlus (as I had with my Vera 3 without resorting to tricks), and I can carry around my VeraPlus (tethered to the range extender) if need be.  It'll be nice when Vera finally enables the capability for the VeraPlus to directly connect to my access point, but this is a workable circumvention for me.

Greg
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: Peren on June 20, 2017, 05:08:04 am
New Firmware out but still no WiFi connectivity for VeraPLus. This sucks!!!
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: integlikewhoa on June 20, 2017, 10:26:10 am
New Firmware out but still no WiFi connectivity for VeraPLus. This sucks!!!

Get used to it. Plus has been out for along time and been promised since it was released. See the other post you already made this comment in.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: Sorin on June 20, 2017, 02:12:55 pm
New Firmware out but still no WiFi connectivity for VeraPLus. This sucks!!!

Hello there,




Actually client mode for VeraPlus has made it's way in yesterday's release.




- WiFi client for Vera Plus/G450


https://goo.gl/r4iuQT (https://goo.gl/r4iuQT)
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: rafale77 on June 21, 2017, 01:33:36 am
Not in the documentation but I tested it on my old Vera Edge and it seems to work as well.
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus
Post by: kwieto on August 08, 2017, 04:14:22 am
Without wifi, Vera engineering is telling me I have to uninstall an outlet near my router (the Vera is plugged in there), install the z-wave outlet, pair, uninstall the z-wave outlet, re-install the original outlet, and finally install the z-wave outlet in its correct location. Does anyone else think this is *ridiculous*?

I've managed that by making a short cable with plug on the one side and free wires on the other side. Whenever I need to include new in-wall device, I first connect it to that cable and then plug in near Vera to make inclusion.

But lacking of WiFi client mode is a problem anyway since a lot issues may happen, like reset and a need of re-including some already installed in-wall device, or a need to remove-include procedure due to change of device's configuration settings or adding new sub-components to it (some devices need such procedure, i.e. after attaching additional temperature sensor or changing settings for external switch attached to the device).

At my home I have furthest device c.a. 150m (500ft) from the controller and no possibility to install anything in between (no buildings, no power line). This can be managed if I move controller to one side of the house and use z-wave repeater at remote location, while router is in other side of the house. The router is connected to external antenna, so I can't move it easily. Without WiFi client mode I would have to pass Ethernet cable across the whole house to make it work (fortunately I have Edge model).
Title: Re: WiFi on Vera Plus (Resolved)
Post by: Sorin on August 08, 2017, 02:15:27 pm
Starting with firmware Version 7.0.21 ▾ June 19, 2017. Wifi client mode has been enabled in VeraPlus : https://goo.gl/r4iuQT (https://goo.gl/r4iuQT)


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