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Title: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 02, 2014, 06:48:16 pm
I have been working on a blue iris plug for my personal use. I have written vera plugins before so I don't see a problem eventually getting this to a point where it works flawless.
I currently have camera ability with PTZ working and if need username and password can be configured.

I plan on getting on integrating Blue Vera Triggers into vera. I currently have them working but they are hard coded in. I want to integrate them into the plugin. After I get that done and tested I will then publish it to the MIOS marketplace.

Download here
https://github.com/undert03/vera-blueiris

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on July 02, 2014, 08:04:46 pm
Downloading as I type. Noticed in your install.txt you refer to a zip file to download. However all I can find is an xml file. Which I copied off the webpage to a text editor and saved as I_BlueIris.xml

I then uploaded that file to Vera and created a device following your instructions. Unfortunately I am not able to find the CameraName variable in the device it created.  It's telling me Camera URL is invalid. Also it created a device named IP Camera Ext instead of Blue Iris CAM #XXX.

I used the link https://github.com/undert03/vera-blueiris

Very grateful you started work on this.

Update: for some reason the created device had for Impl_File 'filename: I_BlueIris.xml'. Once I corrected that to I_BlueIris.xml, it allowed me to add the CameraName variable and set it to the one camera I wasn't able to get vera to recognize but BI has no issues with. And hey presto. Image!

After the next reload the name changed to Blue Iris CAM #devnumber

Thank You!!!


Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 02, 2014, 10:38:19 pm
Nice, thanks for testing it. Yes the zip download is on that page and can be found in two spots. I circled them in the screenshot below.
Working on Motion Detection device support as we speak.

UPDATE: Motion Detection Sensor is now working and can be enable per Cam! I should have it uploaded and documented tomorrow in github repo
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 03, 2014, 03:38:49 pm
Version 0.3 has been uploaded with Blue Iris motion sensor support.

Grab the latest release here: https://github.com/undert03/vera-blueiris/releases

I also made a how-to video on installing and configuring a cam and motion sensor.

http://youtu.be/flDc84wrue8 (http://youtu.be/flDc84wrue8)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: ServiceXp on July 03, 2014, 07:33:36 pm
So Blue Iris requires a computer to be on all the time? Is there an option if that is not possible?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 03, 2014, 09:33:28 pm
So Blue Iris requires a computer to be on all the time? Is there an option if that is not possible?

Yes, it is a windows based app. No there are no other options for Blue Iris. However a DVR unit vs Blue Iris and a pc would probably consume about the same amount of power. Also running a computer app vs embedded software is a way better route for customization in the future. Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on July 03, 2014, 10:15:46 pm
So Blue Iris requires a computer to be on all the time? Is there an option if that is not possible?

Correct. It requires a Windows platform computer. I utilize an older box running WHS2011 with a 2.2Ghz 4 core AMD Phenom and 4GB memory that handles BI with 9 IP cams (2 of which are 720P) CPU usage is around 40% with spikes up to 65%.  CPU temp is generally around 33C and I've yet to see it go above 41C. It also runs Serviio streaming server and I can stream an MKV without pegging it out while the BI service is also running. Granted, I run a 1Gb backbone with a dedicated N router for the cameras and a main N router for my other devices. Both of which are connected wired to the backbone as is the server.

I might go for one of the Lenovo or Dell  Xeon server boxes if they drop to $200 again...

Upgraded the plugin to the new 0.3 version and setup the motion sensor. Will do the setup on the BI side  later. Unfortunately this is an outdoor camera with no PTZ. :-) Plug-in works great. I can now view my wayward camera in AuthomationHD as well as the ImperiHome Android apps.

Again, thanks for taking the time to develop this. For those interested, although Blue Iris is $50 direct, you can find the serial legit on eBay for $37 and if you have a spare box with Windows, it'll make a nice dedicated camera server with far more options and configuration than Vera. allows for cameras.

Going to see how stable the plugin is and will most likely end up deleting all my camera devices and plugins from Vera and re-add the camera's using this plugin so only BI is performing camera access and will handle all motion sensing and recording.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Cor on July 04, 2014, 03:45:29 am
Cool, nice that someone builds a plugin for blue iris.
For now I have all i need to controll with vera done by http requests in scenes , but this will be much better.
I will install it as well.

Will it be possible to change profiles and disable cameras?

Thanks for taking the time to write and share a plugin,
Cor
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on July 04, 2014, 06:44:59 am
What sort of load does this place on the Vera, specifically the CPU?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 04, 2014, 09:32:36 am
No more than a regular IP camera because it functions the exact same. The motion sensor it adds is passive so that doesn't do anything different than any other sensor in vera. So the short answer is not that much :)

What sort of load does this place on the Vera, specifically the CPU?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: LightsOn on July 04, 2014, 10:02:08 am
just saw this thread - great stuff - on my list of "i will add and have a play" in due course.  I too currently operate with HTTP get in scenes.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: ServiceXp on July 04, 2014, 11:13:54 am
So Blue Iris requires a computer to be on all the time? Is there an option if that is not possible?

Yes, it is a windows based app. No there are no other options for Blue Iris. However a DVR unit vs Blue Iris and a pc would probably consume about the same amount of power. Also running a computer app vs embedded software is a way better route for customization in the future. Just my 2 cents.

Bummer, in my application I don't have any machines running 24hrs except Vera and My Network (router and switch)). Looking for a camera solution that can be handled by Vera.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 04, 2014, 12:20:00 pm
Next version i will be adding the options to reverse left/right, up/down. Also for people using smart phone apps that don't allow you to use presets I will have a setting to convert the zoom in/out to preset 1 & 2. if your camera doesn't have zoom function it makes the buttons more useful. Also will add an option for U/D/L/R controls to be converted to preset 1,2,3,4 and if zoom convert enabled also zoom in/out turns to preset 5&6. Not sure if that will help anyone out but i know it will work great for me on non-ptz cameras in iVera for iphone.

My next project might be writing a smart phone app that isn't so shitty and laggy. I feel like i am in the stone age when i use the ios apps for vera.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on July 04, 2014, 12:49:57 pm
Do you plan to make this an "official" plugin?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 04, 2014, 01:00:02 pm
Lol, since I am not affiliated with blue iris I don't think it can ever be official


Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: dsroberts1945 on July 04, 2014, 01:11:21 pm
Great plug-in. Have got it working with my 4 cameras (once I realised that I needed to enable the anonymous account in Blue Iris!!!!!!), next when I have time I will set up the motion detectors.

Many thanks
David
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: TC1 on July 04, 2014, 01:35:01 pm
Lol, since I am not affiliated with blue iris I don't think it can ever be official

I think the previous question meant submit it to the MiOS store so it can be installed via the Vera dashboard and Install Apps.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 04, 2014, 02:01:42 pm
Nice, keep me posted on any issues or ideas for future improvements. It's nice to hear good feedback and give back to the community.


Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on July 04, 2014, 03:25:37 pm
In case people haven't realized yet, but this plugin will give you access to use all Blue Iris supported camera's with Vera rather than being limited to just the current limited set of supported cameras.

Scroll down and this will show you all Blue Iris supported camera's. http://blueirissoftware.com/technology/
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 04, 2014, 07:36:27 pm

David you can configure the plugin to use a password with blue iris. Watch my how to video I address where to enter it in there.

Great plug-in. Have got it working with my 4 cameras (once I realised that I needed to enable the anonymous account in Blue Iris!!!!!!), next when I have time I will set up the motion detectors.

Many thanks
David


Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on July 04, 2014, 08:08:36 pm
Lol, since I am not affiliated with blue iris I don't think it can ever be official

Actually I was thinking more from the standpoint of Vera and the Vera App Store. Blue Iris doesn't currently have their own interface to Vera and has never indicated any interest doing that aware of so I doubt they care. :-)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: EOppie on July 05, 2014, 11:55:14 am
Great plugin undertoe!  I am downloading now to play around with it.  I have 7 cameras on my Blue Iris system, and had been using Blue Iris to send scene triggers upon motion.  Nice to now have another way to do it with motion control!
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: LightsOn on July 06, 2014, 08:33:30 am
Just installed and works a treat - great stuff thank @underoe
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tb001 on July 06, 2014, 11:30:32 am
First time setting up a camera for me and thought I'd try this--looks like a great plugin! I'm having some trouble getting the video feed in vera and not sure what I'm doing wrong. I can't tell if the issue is on the general camera setup side, the vera side or the BlueIris side. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I have a foscam camera setup in BlueIris and it's working fine on the LAN. Can see and manipulate the camera through BlueIris. The camera is on port 90 and the BlueIris web server is on port 120 (hopefully I did this correctly by putting them on two separate ports).

Note that I'm not able to access the camera remotely. I'm having a lot of trouble getting my system configured to allow this--really frustrating. I was hoping that since the plug in seems to use the LAN ip address, and from what I can tell this is all working fine, this wouldn't be an issue. Is this the source of the problem getting the camera feed into vera?

If anyone has suggestions for resources to get remote access up and running with BlueIris, it would be very appreciated. Not sure if this is the right thread for that... I've been at this for several hours and just not making any progress. I have a comcast modem and am using a Time Capsule as a router and mac as our main computer, but have a PC setup running BlueIris. I thought I had time capsule set up correctly to open the port, but when I check it at canyouseeme.org, it can't see my service. I can't figure out if the problem is on the firewall on my mac or the pc, with my settings in time capsule, or with a combination.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: LightsOn on July 06, 2014, 11:44:05 am
Hi tb001 ensure ypu jave webserver running and have noted ip and port and checked they are open and not being blocked. Then ensure you jave a user and password and that the profile for user is active. Also ensure profile has administrator ticked . Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tb001 on July 06, 2014, 12:00:47 pm
Hi tb001 ensure ypu jave webserver running and have noted ip and port and checked they are open and not being blocked. Then ensure you jave a user and password and that the profile for user is active. Also ensure profile has administrator ticked . Hope this helps.

Thanks LightsOn! Does vera/blueiris plugin need the web server running, or can it access the camera on the LAN?

I know my remote access isn't working correctly. I think I have the web server set up correctly, as well as the user name and password, but pretty sure my port isn't open. If I enter my ipaddress:port into the browser on my phone, it can't connect.

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: LightsOn on July 06, 2014, 12:06:30 pm
Google can you see me for checking if your port is open also double check again that thunder the user you have administrator tagged and also i have my router port forwarding to the web server ip address as listed in blue iris then i use d d y n s let me know how you get on up at start making sure you can see through the port also don't forget firewall and antivirus may be blocking ports i want this sorted do iris set up very straightforward and works great
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tb001 on July 06, 2014, 12:47:55 pm
Google can you see me for checking if your port is open also double check again that thunder the user you have administrator tagged and also i have my router port forwarding to the web server ip address as listed in blue iris then i use d d y n s let me know how you get on up at start making sure you can see through the port also don't forget firewall and antivirus may be blocking ports i want this sorted do iris set up very straightforward and works great

OK, made some significant progress, though I'm not entirely certain what I did! :) I can now see my port on canyouseeme.org. When I enter <ipaddress>:<port> into the browser on my phone (so off my local network), I'm taken to the login page and can see my camera.

Took a reboot of my vera, but now seems to be showing up!! Thank you!
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: LightsOn on July 06, 2014, 02:38:48 pm
Great stuff :-)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 06, 2014, 04:22:02 pm
TB you get everything setup? Have you watched my install video, should be nothing more than just copying your lan ip and port and pasting it during the setup. You can PM me if you are still having an issue.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Mgsmith75 on July 06, 2014, 05:44:18 pm
Overall this is awesome, just what I have been waiting for! I am having one minor issue with the motion sensors on vera. They will not allow me to switch to bypass without manually setting the variable in the advanced tab. The buttons on the dashboard do not work. Says not implemented.


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Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 06, 2014, 07:14:09 pm
Overall this is awesome, just what I have been waiting for! I am having one minor issue with the motion sensors on vera. They will not allow me to switch to bypass without manually setting the variable in the advanced tab. The buttons on the dashboard do not work. Says not implemented.

Good catch, i haven't tried to bypass yet but i will fix that in the next revision.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 06, 2014, 07:44:09 pm
Released version 0.4

- Option to Switch Motion Controls to Preset
- Option to Switch Zoom to Preset
- Option to for Horizontal Control Reverse
- Option to for Vertical Control Reverse

How-to Upgrade from a previous version
https://github.com/undert03/vera-blueiris#upgrade (https://github.com/undert03/vera-blueiris#upgrade)

Read about the new config options
https://github.com/undert03/vera-blueiris#configuration-options (https://github.com/undert03/vera-blueiris#configuration-options)

Download Here
https://github.com/undert03/vera-blueiris/releases/latest (https://github.com/undert03/vera-blueiris/releases/latest)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tb001 on July 06, 2014, 07:56:53 pm
TB you get everything setup? Have you watched my install video, should be nothing more than just copying your lan ip and port and pasting it during the setup. You can PM me if you are still having an issue.

Thanks undertoe! All set up and working well. Great app--thanks for your work on this! Now I just need to start investing in better cameras!
Title: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Mgsmith75 on July 06, 2014, 08:10:57 pm
Released version 0.4

- Option to Switch Motion Controls to Preset
- Option to Switch Zoom to Preset
- Option to for Horizontal Control Reverse
- Option to for Vertical Control Reverse

Read about the new config options
https://github.com/undert03/vera-blueiris#configuration-options (https://github.com/undert03/vera-blueiris#configuration-options)

Download Here
https://github.com/undert03/vera-blueiris/releases/latest (https://github.com/undert03/vera-blueiris/releases/latest)

Thanks undertoe,

When updating from a pervious version do we need to start fresh or if I am updating from .3 to .4 do I just need to load the newest I_BlueIris.xml?


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Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 06, 2014, 08:17:09 pm
Yes, I should probably add that to the read me. Just upload the 0.4 I_Blueiris.xml and check the restart luup. After it reloads all configured cameras should have the updated config options.

How-to Upgrade from a previous version
https://github.com/undert03/vera-blueiris#upgrade (https://github.com/undert03/vera-blueiris#upgrade)


Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: CoreDex on July 08, 2014, 12:19:06 am
undertoe,
Thanks for creating this fantastic plug-in, I really appreciate your effort here.   I have been testing this for a few days, and I can't seem to get it to work with the LAN security enabled.  It works fine with LAN security disabled in BlueIris, but once I enable it, I can no longer connect to any cameras.   I know i'm using the correct credentials (from the BlueIris Web console settings admin account).  Any idea what may be the issue here?

Have others utilized with the LAN security enabled successfully?

Thanks very much
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: LightsOn on July 08, 2014, 02:57:04 am
Yep working for me here. Have you ticked administrator under the account in blue iris? That may be it?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 08, 2014, 06:58:39 am
CoreDex, yes I have tested it with a alphanumeric username and password. If your username or password contains non-alphanumeric maybe try to remove them just for the test. If that works it might be an encoding issues.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 08, 2014, 08:18:07 am
Just released version 0.5 which addresses two bug fixes


Download Here
https://github.com/undert03/vera-blueiris/releases/latest

How to upgrade from a previous version
https://github.com/undert03/vera-blueiris#upgrade

Pushing this version to the MIOS market place
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 09, 2014, 02:37:53 pm
In the MIOS Market Place for easy install

http://apps.mios.com/plugin.php?id=6916 (http://apps.mios.com/plugin.php?id=6916)

Rate and Review please :)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on July 09, 2014, 06:16:05 pm
gladly left! camera name 'index' is a great bonus. I've added one with that name just for overview purposes so I can see all my cams in one go.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 09, 2014, 06:34:39 pm
That's great :) How is the motion sensor setup going for everyone anything i can do to make it easier?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Mike on July 14, 2014, 12:07:41 pm
Installed and working great with my Blue Iris integration. I did have to adjust the Webserver -> Authentication setting to "Non-Lan only" to get it to work.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: cfnardone on July 14, 2014, 12:53:00 pm
I NEED HELP....
 I can't get the cams working in UI5 however they work great in blue iris.  When I go to create device after loading the .xml, do I enter the local ip address of the blue iris server or the WAN address?
That may be my problem...??
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Mike on July 14, 2014, 01:48:09 pm
I NEED HELP....
 I can't get the cams working in UI5 however they work great in blue iris.  When I go to create device after loading the .xml, do I enter the local ip address of the blue iris server or the WAN address?
That may be my problem...??

I entered the local address. Make sure you are entering the port too. It should look like IP:PORT
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on July 14, 2014, 01:48:35 pm
You have to use the local IP address (NOT the WAN address) as even if you are remote, you are accessing Blue Iris locally via Vera. Also make sure to put in the correct port number for the Blue Iris webserver.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: cfnardone on July 14, 2014, 02:28:20 pm
Thanks Mike and BOFH.
I entered the LAN:port as instructed and still no luck.  (10.0.0.12:82) (i have port forwarding of ports 80 to 82 to 10.0.0.12 if that helps)

I have made sure to change authentication in the blue iris web server settings to non-local only.
I have enabled the anonymous account in blue iris users.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 14, 2014, 02:29:50 pm
Have you watched the install video. I don't think it gets much easier than that


Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: cfnardone on July 14, 2014, 02:35:53 pm

UT-
I did follow the  video as well as the written instructions uninstalling and reinstalling several times to make sure.
BTW, thanks so much for your hard work and generosity sharing with us all...
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on July 14, 2014, 02:40:19 pm
Thanks Mike and BOFH.
I entered the LAN:port as instructed and still no luck.  (10.0.0.12:82) (i have port forwarding of ports 80 to 82 to 10.0.0.12 if that helps)

I have made sure to change authentication in the blue iris web server settings to non-local only.
I have enabled the anonymous account in blue iris users.

Hold on. Ignore the port forwarding. Input the exact IP address and port as set on the Blue Iris server.

If you are on the same network as your Blue Iris and Vera boxes are on. In a web browser, type that IP followed by : and the port#, eg if the IP of the Blue Iris box is 10.10.1.2 and the port is 80, type in http://10.10.1.2:80

If you get the Blue Iris camera screen, then you have entered the right IP and port and make sure to enter that in the device in Vera and it should work.

If you do not get the Blue Iris camera screen, then you are either using the incorrect IP and/or port. Or the webserver on your Blue Iris box is not activated or correctly setup.

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tb001 on July 14, 2014, 04:16:50 pm
If you're certain you've entered the lan port correctly, two other things to check. Make sure you can access blue iris from an outside network. If not, something isn't set up right. Also, make sure you're entering the camera name in the right field. These were the two things which tripped me up. Embarrassed to admit the second!
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on July 14, 2014, 04:25:07 pm
I've noticed when you create a device using the plugin, it defaults to camera name index which is actually a mosaic of all your camera's.
But yes, you have to be careful putting in the correct camera name
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tb001 on July 14, 2014, 04:44:02 pm
I've noticed when you create a device using the plugin, it defaults to camera name index which is actually a mosaic of all your camera's.
But yes, you have to be careful putting in the correct camera name

Yes, as well as putting it in the actual camera name field... :) Like I said, embarassing!
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 14, 2014, 07:46:24 pm
I updated the install instructions for installing via mios app store just in case their is any confusion. I will make an install video later.

Anyone using the motion triggering from blue iris to vera, looking for some feedback on that.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Mgsmith75 on July 14, 2014, 07:54:15 pm
My motion sensors are working great, no issues for me. I have have one small request, to add a battery field so that I can manually set it for 100 since all my devices are plugged in cameras. On my IOS app it shows battery level for all my motion sensors and the current build of the blue iris sensor shows up with zero battery....it just looks odd on my iOS screen...to have the drained battery symbol instead of a full battery symbol for these plugged in devices. 


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Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 14, 2014, 08:01:56 pm
I have have one small request, to add a battery field so that I can manually set it for 100 since all my devices are plugged in cameras. On my IOS app it shows battery level for all my motion sensors and the current build of the blue iris sensor shows up with zero battery....it just looks odd on my iOS screen...to have the drained battery symbol instead of a full battery symbol for these plugged in devices.

What app are you using? cause i don't see battery levels in iVera or Automator in ios
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Mgsmith75 on July 14, 2014, 08:02:59 pm

I have have one small request, to add a battery field so that I can manually set it for 100 since all my devices are plugged in cameras. On my IOS app it shows battery level for all my motion sensors and the current build of the blue iris sensor shows up with zero battery....it just looks odd on my iOS screen...to have the drained battery symbol instead of a full battery symbol for these plugged in devices.

What app are you using? cause i don't see battery levels in iVera or Automator in ios

Simplewave


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Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 14, 2014, 08:54:51 pm
Damn i can't even get simple wave to sign on to my vera lol keeps saying server busy and when in the app just freezes
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Mgsmith75 on July 14, 2014, 09:00:58 pm
Same here, there has been an issue with the log on starting last night on and off all day. mark the simplewave developer says vera servers are having issues. On devices that I was previously logged on too, it works but if I try to sign in fresh to update or reload app and sign in, then I get stuck on the splash screen


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Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 14, 2014, 09:03:09 pm
Looks cool never tried it, can you PM me when it's working and I'll try to get your issue patched. But I am guessing it's only specific to simplewave since none of my other apps show and issue


Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Mgsmith75 on July 14, 2014, 09:23:04 pm
I have been beta testing for the app since before the original launch. The developer is very responsive and always improving the app. I prefer the layout and overall design compared to the other products. Some initial issues that once they are sorted out the app will be perfect for my uses.

I think it is a specific issues with simplewave, they must have the battery icon hard coded and since there is no feed of data for battery level it shows zero. I can also contact the developer and request that no data be displayed as full battery rather than zero battery.


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Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 15, 2014, 07:00:58 am
I would just try adding BatteryLevel with a value of 100 to the variables in vera and see if that works.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Mgsmith75 on July 15, 2014, 07:32:38 am

I would just try adding BatteryLevel with a value of 100 to the variables in vera and see if that works.

The simplewave developer removed the battery icon for those motion detectors that don't report the value.  I just got the beta version:

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/15/su2a3eva.jpg)


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Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Mgsmith75 on July 15, 2014, 07:37:06 am
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Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 15, 2014, 07:58:48 am
Nice! I am excited to try this app. Does it have that shitty lag and loading like ivera or Automator?


Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: TC1 on July 15, 2014, 10:02:32 am
Nice! I am excited to try this app. Does it have that shitty lag and loading like ivera or Automator?

I did try SimpleWave a couple of weeks ago, and yes, the lag (icons and screen updating to reflect true status) when changing things like dimmers was driving me crazy. ImperiHome (Android) and the native Vera app for iPad (iOS) don't have this lag, so it wasn't my network/setup.

YMMV.

-TC
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Mgsmith75 on July 15, 2014, 10:08:13 am
I have had some builds that have work close to flawlessly, but def some growing pains getting the app to respond consistently. The amount of effort the developer puts into this app I would expect him to get it worked out. I get a new beta build frequently and he is responsive to the issues and feature requests.


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Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 16, 2014, 08:33:09 am
Finally got it to load and to test the sensors he should make it so if the batterylevel var isn't present to not show the battery icon since not all sensor are battery operated. For example my motion sensor for my cameras and for my house security system from my DSC panel are hard wired and show up in vera.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Mgsmith75 on July 16, 2014, 08:35:50 am
It has already been changed in the beta scheduled for production in the next release


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Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: cfnardone on July 17, 2014, 12:55:02 pm
Quote
Thanks Mike and BOFH.
I entered the LAN:port as instructed and still no luck.  (10.0.0.12:82) (i have port forwarding of ports 80 to 82 to 10.0.0.12 if that helps)

I have made sure to change authentication in the blue iris web server settings to non-local only.
I have enabled the anonymous account in blue iris users

Update:  With Undertoes help I found that I had not entered the Blue Iris server IP address while creating the actual camera.
When you create a new camera make sure to enter the Blue Iris camera short name AS WELL AS the LAN address of the BI server.
THANKS ALL!!! YOU ROCK!!
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: KeithGP on July 18, 2014, 09:53:38 am
I have read through the comments and it seems to me that there is a problem with the plugin using the Blue Iris authentication.  When I set up the plugin with user and password (even with Administrator checked), the plugin does not connect.  As soon as I (1) turn off authentication or (2) uncheck secure only or (3) change it to Non-Lan only, the plugin connects under the Anonymous User profile  in Blue Iris.  I don't want the Anonymous user EVER to be used.  I prefer a secure connection.

Is there a way to make the plugin use Blue Iris authentication?

Thanks,
Keith
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: gibby on July 21, 2014, 02:57:17 pm
I updated the install instructions for installing via mios app store just in case their is any confusion. I will make an install video later.

Anyone using the motion triggering from blue iris to vera, looking for some feedback on that.
Working great for me. I just need to figure out how I want to switch BlueIris profiles from Vera now.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: gibby on July 21, 2014, 03:00:02 pm
I updated the install instructions for installing via mios app store just in case their is any confusion. I will make an install video later.

Anyone using the motion triggering from blue iris to vera, looking for some feedback on that.
Working great for me. I just need to figure out how I want to switch BlueIris profiles from Vera now.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rafonline on July 22, 2014, 01:18:02 pm
Hey All

You guys seem to have gotten much further than I have.  Im just trying to get the Camera feed working in Vera.  Ive followed the installation video with no luck.  Ive tried:

Ensuring ive entered IP:port
Entering correct credentials in vera
Ensured that I can connect to the webserver on the local network
Ensured that I can connect to the webserver from the outside
Ensured that username/password works
Open the webserver without authentication - didnt work even then
Unticking secure only
Setting the BI webserver to NON-LAN only

Ive run out of things to try to be honest.  Any help would be appreciated

Thanks
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rafonline on July 22, 2014, 01:54:58 pm
Quick update here all.

So I deleted the Camera's that were created by the Plugin App

Created the Camera's exactly as per the video - ie through Dev Apps

Made sure that BI webserver was configured to NO-LAN Only and secured is UNTICKED

All is working fine.  However as soon as I enabled secured connection again - it breaks.

Reading in this forum, some people have it working with a secured connection which is what I would like to do.

Is there any way of getting this to work with a secured connection?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 22, 2014, 09:47:35 pm
Hey everyone I will be making some updates when I get back
Home. We had a new addition to our family :) so I will be a little tied up for a couple days. But I want to test out auth and make sure it's working properly and or get it working. I also think I can add in some custom ui functionality for force recording and profiles. Stay posted...


Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on July 22, 2014, 11:17:51 pm
Congratulations. Installed a camera to keep an eye on that bundle of joy yet? :)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on July 22, 2014, 11:18:35 pm
Thanks! Lol that's actually how it all started :)


Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: TC1 on July 22, 2014, 11:49:00 pm
Congrats on the family addition. That's more important than any of this stuff  :)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rafonline on July 23, 2014, 03:26:53 am
hahaha Many congrats, and thanks for doing this.  Please feel free to contact me directly should you need a tester at any time.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: RV on July 27, 2014, 08:44:06 pm
man i gota say.. I screwed around with a cheap camera (HooToo ip 206) I bought off amazon trying to add it to the vera.. nothing worked (not that i had high hopes) it's some kind of foscam 89XX clone or something.

Anyway, I ended up with a dead "undefined" device that i can't delete on the vera

so I installed the blueiris software on a Home Theater windows box I have, added this plugin to the vera,  followed the video in the beginning of this thread, and in 5 minutes I had a working camera.

I think it's worth paying for blue iris just to use these cheap off brand cameras.

and with this plugin it's a breeze to get these unsupported cameras into the vera...

excellent work on the plugin.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: macrho on July 28, 2014, 05:52:05 am
Anyway, I ended up with a dead "undefined" device that i can't delete on the vera

Let me know if you figure out how to delete it. The Blue Iris plugin works well for me too when adding a 3MP Chinese camera. I now have a vehicle sensor in my driveway (Dakota) that emails a picture to me via Vera Alerts when a vehicle is sensed. Very cool!
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: macrho on July 28, 2014, 05:59:54 am
actually it's pretty simple to delete a device:

http://<local_Vera_IP>:3480/data_request?id=device&action=delete&device=<device_ID>


just had to search  ;D
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: mazer9 on July 28, 2014, 02:46:59 pm
Just discovered the Vera.  I already have Blue Iris and it works pretty well.  Would this plugin allow one to use PIR z-wave motion detectors attached to the Vera system to trigger Blue Iris camera recordings? 

All the talk seems to be about using the cameras motion detectors to trigger the Vera to perform a task, but I'd like to use dedicated motion detectors to trigger Blue Iris recordings due to a lot of false positives I get from trees blowing and creating moving shaded areas around my house when relying on Blue Iris to handle motion.  Ideally when motion is detected via the pir motion detectors I would like for Vera to trigger Blue Iris to start recording as opposed to the other way around.

Any insight is appreciated.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rafonline on July 29, 2014, 12:41:18 pm
Have you guys got the plugin working with Secure connection?

If so how? I have everything working just without secure connection

Thanks
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: lunchour on August 06, 2014, 12:08:39 pm
Ideally when motion is detected via the pir motion detectors I would like for Vera to trigger Blue Iris to start recording as opposed to the other way around.

I am with mazer9, hoping to have a vera sensor trigger a Blueiris profile that starts all cameras recording for one minute.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on August 06, 2014, 01:08:41 pm
I should be able to work with blue iris to make that functionality available in the future. Secure connection seems to be working good in my dev version. I plan to push it to MIos friday
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rafonline on August 08, 2014, 10:54:29 am
thats excellent news, would be great if you let us know when its done
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on August 08, 2014, 10:55:29 am
Will do
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: dbeck52 on August 08, 2014, 12:27:35 pm
Thank you for this app.  Just installed on my UI6 veralite and all is working well.  Just installed a hd camera and it was much easier setting up than monkeying with vera advanced settings. 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: EOppie on August 14, 2014, 04:30:44 pm
Alright, reverse request here.

Is there a way to trigger BI to start recording a camera group from a motion sensor in Vera?

I get a lot of false triggers with motion detection on the camera, but my PIR sensor for the same area is dead on.  I believe you can do this with JSON, however it is over my head.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on August 14, 2014, 05:02:43 pm
I am working on making some functions available in vera for the BI server. it's about a month out. However the secure support version should be approved any day now by MIos.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: llindstrom on August 15, 2014, 09:36:23 am
Looking forward to Vera Based Sensors triggering Blue Iris to record... Let us know your progress.  Thanks for all your hard work!
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tb001 on August 15, 2014, 10:04:13 am
Just wondering--has anyone tried this plugin with UI7? Holding off on taking the plunge, but this plugin has quickly become mission critical for me!
Title: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Mgsmith75 on August 15, 2014, 11:28:20 am
I temporarily moved to UI7 and didn't notice any glaring issues. I downgraded back to UI5 based on other issues with critical plug-in's for me. However I didn't test fully, but it did migrate and allow me to see an image.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: gibby on August 16, 2014, 02:34:52 am
Alright, reverse request here.

Is there a way to trigger BI to start recording a camera group from a motion sensor in Vera?

I get a lot of false triggers with motion detection on the camera, but my PIR sensor for the same area is dead on.  I believe you can do this with JSON, however it is over my head.

Any ideas?
Check the blue iris help docs in the app. One of the pages list how trigger the profiles via http.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Retired2Golf on August 17, 2014, 10:51:55 am
Had this app up and running for several days without any problems. I install a dns server and now all I get is the little film strip without any camera feed. i have not changed any settings in the blue Iris app or in Blue Iris. The only thing is the ddns server on the router and the updater on the cameras and PC. What could be giving me this problem? I guess the next step is to uninstall the ddns server

Dave
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on August 17, 2014, 04:18:44 pm
Have you checked if you can access Blue Iris directly using the same IP set in the plugin? I'm wondering if the DNS server you installed assigned a different IP to your Blue Iris server and the plugin doesn't know that and is still looking at the old IP address.

Make sure that the DNS server you installed, assigns a 'static' IP to you Blue IRis server based on that servers MAC address. I'd suggest it do the same for Vera.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Mgsmith75 on August 18, 2014, 09:17:48 am
Feature request:

Is there a way to send vera a notification when a camera loses signal? I have my camera's zwave switches in the event that I need to reboot remotely. I would like to set up an automation to reboot the camera on a lost signal by sending a command to the switch to turn off and then back on.


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Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on August 18, 2014, 06:04:58 pm

Feature request:

Is there a way to send vera a notification when a camera loses signal? I have my camera's zwave switches in the event that I need to reboot remotely. I would like to set up an automation to reboot the camera on a lost signal by sending a command to the switch to turn off and then back on.


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I think BI already has that under camera configs
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Mgsmith75 on August 18, 2014, 06:33:02 pm


Feature request:

Is there a way to send vera a notification when a camera loses signal? I have my camera's zwave switches in the event that I need to reboot remotely. I would like to set up an automation to reboot the camera on a lost signal by sending a command to the switch to turn off and then back on.


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I think BI already has that under camera configs

They do however a reboot request doesn't work when signal is lost. So for any wireless camera's that never works. In addition I use an AC wireless bridge on one of my camera's, so I would want to configure an automation to reboot that bridge. I was wondering if a similar function that sends a motion alert to vera could also be used to send a lost signal alert.


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Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: RV on August 18, 2014, 07:20:14 pm
actually it's pretty simple to delete a device:

http://<local_Vera_IP>:3480/data_request?id=device&action=delete&device=<device_ID>


just had to search  ;D

thanks... gone...


back on blueiris and the plugin.. even works on a super crappy camera (retevis)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: fcol on August 18, 2014, 09:41:44 pm
Ideally when motion is detected via the pir motion detectors I would like for Vera to trigger Blue Iris to start recording as opposed to the other way around.

I am with mazer9, hoping to have a vera sensor trigger a Blueiris profile that starts all cameras recording for one minute.

[EDIT: You can ignore this post since the steps are unnecessary - there's a much simpler way to trigger a Blue Iris recording or profile change:
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,25828.msg190325.html#msg190325
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,10390.msg101895.html#msg101895

Original post below:]

I figured this out a few weeks ago (frantically the night before I went on vacation - so I'll do my best to recreate the steps here).  I wish I could give proper credit to every link I used to piece this together but the best I can trace back is:
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,7881.75.html
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/create-administrator-mode-shortcuts-without-uac-prompts-in-windows-vista/
and probably some posts from cam-it.org (sorry, I did hours of Google search site:cam-it.org and site:micasaverde.com)

This technique required bicommand and Eventghost.

1.   Install bicommand (I installed it to C:\APPS\bicommand)

        NOTE: Steps 2-10 are needed to bypass Windows UAC.  If you don't enable UAC, then you can just write and run a bat file.  As far as I can tell, bicommand needs to be run with Admin privileges.
2.   Open Windows Task Scheduler (e.g., click Start Button, type task, then choose Task Scheduler)
3.   In the Actions pane, Create Task to start wizard
4.   Under General tab, type in a name (in my example, I'll use bic_Swann2 where bic is short for bicommand and Swann2 is the shortcamname).  You may also need to click checkbox for "Run with highest privileges"
5.   Under Actions tab, click New, then leave Action as "Start a program"
6.   For Setting Program/script, type (or browse to) C:\APPS\bicommand\bicommand.exe
7.   For "Add arguments (optional):" field, type in "trigger Swann2" (no quotes; use your own Blue Iris shortcamname).  Click OK and close out of Task Scheduler.
        EDIT: You can add multiple cameras in the arguments - also see these links for other bicommand tips (e.g., create snapshots instead of triggering video):
        http://www.cam-it.org/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=3
        http://www.cam-it.org/index.php?topic=2687.0
8.   In Windows Explorer, right-click somewhere to create a New Shortcut (I chose to do it in the bicommand folder)
9.   Under "Type the location of the item:", type
Code: [Select]
schtasks /run /tn "bic_Swann2" [yes, you need the quotes; this is name of the task you created earlier]
10.   Click Next, then give it a name.  I confusingly choose to use the same name as the task name (e.g., bic_Swann2)

11.   Install Eventghost http://www.eventghost.org/
12.   Then install the Webserver plugin (in Evenghost, choose Configuration menu, choose Add Plugin, then scroll all the way down to find "Webserver", then click OK)
13.   Right-click the Webserver plugin, choose Configure Item.
14.   Change the TCP/IP port to something unique and unused.  Ensure the Event prefix says HTTP.  Click OK
        a.   NOTE: I have no idea about the security of this.  I am (perhaps naively) hoping that my router's firewall is keeping anyone out even if they know my public IP, local IP, and port for the Eventghost Webserver.  Whatever you do, don't use port forwarding for your chosen port number.
15.   In the Configuration pane, I created a folder to keep all my Blue Iris camera triggers (and creatively called it "BlueIris")
16.   Right-click this folder
17.   Add Macro
18.   Click Cancel
19.   Right-click that newly created macro, choose Rename Item (name it something like your shortcam name; in this example Swann2)
20.   Right-click your macro, choose Add Event
        a.   A dialog box pops up with Event Name.
        b.   Replace "Task.Activated.EventGhost" (or whatever was in there) with "HTTP.Swann2"
        c.   Click OK
21.   Right-click this new lightning bolt icon (event) and choose Add Action
22.   Look for folder System and choose Start Application, click OK
23.   Under Executable, browse to your shortcut (in this case, bic_Swann2)
24.   Under Command Line Options, type /run /tn bic_Swann2
        a.   where bic_Swann2 is the shortcut name we created earlier
        b.   Note: you might be able to skip this command line option since it was already established (I don't remember needing to do it but it seems like I need to do it right now as I try to recreate this procedure). 
25.   Don't forget to File-Save in Eventghost.

26.   You can test it here in Eventghost and hopefully Blue Iris will capture a clip.  In my case, the clip shows "External" as the cause.  You can also test by typing this in your web browser:
Code: [Select]
http://192.XXX.XXX.XXX:YOURPORT/eventghost.html?Swann2where you add in your Blue Iris IP, EVENTGHOST Port, and same Eventghost name you used after "HTTP." in the Eventghost configuration [again, in this example Swann2]

27.   Now in Vera UI5, create a new scene where the only thing you add is this LUUP code:
Code: [Select]
local status, result = luup.inet.wget("http://192.XXX.XXX.XXX:YOURPORT/eventghost.html?Swann2", 5)        where you add in your Blue Iris IP, EVENTGHOST Port, and same Eventghost name you used after "HTTP." in the Eventghost configuration [again, in this example Swann2]

28.   Now you have a scene that you can activate.  In my case, I use a PLEG device.
        Note: I had to search on how to run a scene under PLEG actions.  In the PLEG configuration, go to Actions tab, create your condition, click Edit (which kicks you out of the PLEG dialog box and into a Scene-like UI5 screen), then click Advanced tab.  Under Pick a device, choose your PLEG device.  Then choose RunScene form the drop down.  Then type in your scene number.  Then click Finished.

I'm somewhat of a beginner to Vera and Blue Iris.  I just pieced together a bunch of stuff from many places.  So feel free to recommend better ways to accomplish.  Good luck
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Retired2Golf on August 19, 2014, 11:13:04 am
Have you checked if you can access Blue Iris directly using the same IP set in the plugin? I'm wondering if the DNS server you installed assigned a different IP to your Blue Iris server and the plugin doesn't know that and is still looking at the old IP address.

Make sure that the DNS server you installed, assigns a 'static' IP to you Blue IRis server based on that servers MAC address. I'd suggest it do the same for Vera.

yes I can input the IP into a browser and access the camera. All appears to be OK. How do I go about installing a static IP on the DNs. I'm using dyndns service and a D-link dir-826l router. i can't find anyplace to install a static IP. Sorry for the questions but this is getting rather confusing.

Dave
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: itchyballs on August 19, 2014, 04:44:04 pm
Is anyone else having problem adding URL and DirectStreamingURL settings? They keep reverting to "/mjpg/index/video.mjpg" and "/image/index?q=80&s=80&time=now" after save and reload.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on August 19, 2014, 06:19:06 pm
Is anyone else having problem adding URL and DirectStreamingURL settings? They keep reverting to "/mjpg/index/video.mjpg" and "/image/index?q=80&s=80&time=now" after save and reload.

These string are automatically set. All you need to do is enter an ip / port for BI server and camera name.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: itchyballs on August 19, 2014, 06:27:25 pm
Is anyone else having problem adding URL and DirectStreamingURL settings? They keep reverting to "/mjpg/index/video.mjpg" and "/image/index?q=80&s=80&time=now" after save and reload.

These string are automatically set. All you need to do is enter an ip / port for BI server and camera name.

Thanks for creating this plugin by the way. Been waiting for this for years.

I understand. This happens after setting the correct parameters in the "advance tab" (IP:port, name, URL, directstreamurl, etc). Everything is working until after awhile (not sure what triggers it) it reverts back to the default "index" strings. The weird thing is that the devices in question DO NOT show up as created devices in the Blue Iris Camera Plugin page. I think I'm gonna start from scratch, I might have screwed something up somewhere.  What's the cleanest way of uninstalling the plugin?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on August 19, 2014, 06:36:01 pm
Your very welcome. Hmmm did you manually install or install via market place?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: itchyballs on August 19, 2014, 06:45:12 pm
From the marketplace.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on August 19, 2014, 06:45:52 pm
Just uninstall and reinstall
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rafonline on August 20, 2014, 09:12:51 am
Has the updated version of the plugin hit mios yet?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on August 20, 2014, 09:57:15 am
Yes
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on August 20, 2014, 10:36:31 am
Searched for "Blue", "Iris", "Blue Iris" I don't see it. Not in the UI5 apps?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tb001 on August 20, 2014, 01:02:39 pm
Searched for "Blue", "Iris", "Blue Iris" I don't see it. Not in the UI5 apps?

I couldn't find it that way either, but if I sort by date submitted, looks like it's on the second page. Is this the most recent version with the admin password issue updated?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on August 20, 2014, 01:10:08 pm
Searched for "Blue", "Iris", "Blue Iris" I don't see it. Not in the UI5 apps?

I couldn't find it that way either, but if I sort by date submitted, looks like it's on the second page. Is this the most recent version with the admin password issue updated?

Thanks, i'll try that
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rafonline on August 20, 2014, 02:20:25 pm
Ive been through every page in the mios app place and I cant actually see it anywhere.  Any of you guys had any luck with finding it?  Also ive already got it installed and I can see that its set to auto update but hasnt done so.  Im still running 0.5.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tb001 on August 20, 2014, 02:46:07 pm
Ive been through every page in the mios app place and I cant actually see it anywhere.  Any of you guys had any luck with finding it?  Also ive already got it installed and I can see that its set to auto update but hasnt done so.  Im still running 0.5.

Hmm, that' so strange. If I go to apps>install apps, it automatically orders "By modified date" and "All categories." The DSC alarm panel plugin shows up at the top of page 1. When I go to pg 2, it's second from the bottom, though says last modified 07/08, so not sure it's the most recent version. Hopefully Undertoe will chime in and let us know :)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on August 20, 2014, 04:00:52 pm
I can't find it either. I've gone all the way back to January 1st. Nothing
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Mgsmith75 on August 20, 2014, 04:45:33 pm
https://apps.mios.com/plugin.php?id=6916


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Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on August 20, 2014, 04:58:06 pm
Got it. It doesn't show up in the Vera Apps/Install Apps listing however
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tb001 on August 20, 2014, 05:25:55 pm
I can't find it either. I've gone all the way back to January 1st. Nothing

wow, I know vera was buggy, but that's nuts! I'm on UI5, if that may be the difference. So strange.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Retired2Golf on August 21, 2014, 09:40:14 am
Have you checked if you can access Blue Iris directly using the same IP set in the plugin? I'm wondering if the DNS server you installed assigned a different IP to your Blue Iris server and the plugin doesn't know that and is still looking at the old IP address.

Make sure that the DNS server you installed, assigns a 'static' IP to you Blue IRis server based on that servers MAC address. I'd suggest it do the same for Vera.

yes I can input the IP into a browser and access the camera. All appears to be OK. How do I go about installing a static IP on the DNs. I'm using dyndns service and a D-link dir-826l router. i can't find anyplace to install a static IP. Sorry for the questions but this is getting rather confusing.

Dave

Any help here? I've checked the ports with 'canyouseemee" and the assigned camera ports are open as well as the Blue Iris port.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rafonline on August 21, 2014, 02:50:52 pm
I still cannot see it

Hopefully underteo can chine in and advise
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on August 21, 2014, 04:09:35 pm
Can you please pm me and we can work on it that way
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rafonline on August 21, 2014, 04:21:19 pm
this is going to sound crazy but I just tried pm'ing you and I dont have access to do so.

can you perhaps pm me your e-mail address so that we can correspond that way?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on August 21, 2014, 07:15:31 pm
You need about 15 more posts before PM ability is activated. It's a security system to ward of spammers.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on August 22, 2014, 12:47:54 pm
Just a heads up to everyone 0.6 is pending approval in the mios app store. Its been waiting for a couple weeks not sure why so long. I did email support about it today.

Just a note to people wanting to use the username and password feature which is working in 0.6 you will need to make sure "Secure only" is unchecked under Blue Iris > Options > Webserver > Advanced for it to allow passing of the username and password in the url.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rafonline on August 25, 2014, 05:50:30 pm
Thanks Undertoe, but does that method in (0.6) still maintain security?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on August 25, 2014, 06:31:43 pm
Yes disabling that option allows you to pass the username and password in the URL. Someone sniffing your packets on your local network only could see your URL query and notice the username and password in it from vera to BI. However this is the only option if you want username and password for all access to your BI. If u wanted to be leet you could run dowrt on your router and read a how to to block packet sniffing on your network.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on August 25, 2014, 06:32:32 pm
Yes disabling that option allows you to pass the username and password in the URL. Someone sniffing your packets on your local network only could see your URL query and notice the username and password in it from vera to BI. However this is the only option if you want username and password for all access to your BI. If u wanted to be leet you could run dowrt on your router and read a how to to block packet sniffing on your network.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on August 26, 2014, 02:48:24 am
Any option to cut the on time down to less then 30 sec on the motion trigger? I adjusted it in the advanced menu but it reverts to 30sec on restart. 30sec per trip seems long!
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on August 26, 2014, 09:06:48 am
Any option to cut the on time down to less then 30 sec on the motion trigger? I adjusted it in the advanced menu but it reverts to 30sec on restart. 30sec per trip seems long!

I was actually just implementing native record and ptz functions for use in scenes and added that feature. Not sure on a release date for .7 but i will keep the forum up to date when its released.

Also looks like MIOS marketplace finally approved version 0.6 so everyone can update to it to gain access to the new username and password features.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on August 26, 2014, 09:44:24 am
Any option to cut the on time down to less then 30 sec on the motion trigger? I adjusted it in the advanced menu but it reverts to 30sec on restart. 30sec per trip seems long!

I was actually just implementing native record and ptz functions for use in scenes and added that feature. Not sure on a release date for .7 but i will keep the forum up to date when its released.

Also looks like MIOS marketplace finally approved version 0.6 so everyone can update to it to gain access to the new username and password features.

I have the plug in VERSION 0.5* running using username and password already. If I upgrade to 0.6 is something going to change? Will I loses access? Changes to Blue Iris necessary?

I'm a little gun shy as I had to reinstall BI this weekend and after I did none of the other access mechanisms (Plugin, ImperiHome, BI Remote) worked. So I spend  a few hours fiddling with various combinations on BI and the remote access tools and finally got two of them working again:

-- BI Plug In is working again after entering username and password
-- ImperiHome is working again after entering  the username and password
-- Blue Iris Remote (RS) Android app does NOT work any longer even with username/password
 
Right now BI is running with Authentication on "All connections", "Secure only" UNCHECKED.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on August 26, 2014, 09:49:33 am
Just username and password has been integrated into the urls for PTZ functions and camera image. If it works and you don't want to update i would keep it as is.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on August 26, 2014, 10:09:56 am
Just username and password has been integrated into the urls for PTZ functions and camera image. If it works and you don't want to update i would keep it as is.

It isn't that I don't want to update, I prefer to keep my systems current. My concern is that it is already working with user/password and I was concerned that the new version would break that somehow. I didn't clearly understand that the change has to do with PTZ, which I don't currently use.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on August 26, 2014, 12:55:12 pm
Any option to cut the on time down to less then 30 sec on the motion trigger? I adjusted it in the advanced menu but it reverts to 30sec on restart. 30sec per trip seems long!

I was actually just implementing native record and ptz functions for use in scenes and added that feature. Not sure on a release date for .7 but i will keep the forum up to date when its released.

Also looks like MIOS marketplace finally approved version 0.6 so everyone can update to it to gain access to the new username and password features.

I think your men't you'll work on that for version .7?

Also for more requests. ;D Changing the Name of the motion. I see that also reverts back to blah blah "camera sensor". It gets to long and cut off in certain phone apps and doesn't look clean enough.  If we could modify it to our liking that would be great.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on August 26, 2014, 01:10:24 pm
Just username and password has been integrated into the urls for PTZ functions and camera image. If it works and you don't want to update i would keep it as is.

It isn't that I don't want to update, I prefer to keep my systems current. My concern is that it is already working with user/password and I was concerned that the new version would break that somehow. I didn't clearly understand that the change has to do with PTZ, which I don't currently use.

Just FYI, I upgraded to 0.6 and everything is fine. Thanks

It also looks like there was a bug in yesterday's BI update, there was another one this morning. Yesterday's appears to have had something to do with authentication because I could not log in with my Blue Iris Remote Android app and today suddenly works again.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on August 26, 2014, 01:22:27 pm
It also looks like there was a bug in yesterday's BI update, there was another one this morning. Yesterday's appears to have had something to do with authentication because I could not log in with my Blue Iris Remote Android app and today suddenly works again.

I did yesterdays update and had no problem logging in.  Running version 3.61.01 as of right now, but I also have auto updates on.

Hmmmm I wounder what it was.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rafonline on August 26, 2014, 05:58:24 pm
Working like a charm, thanks undertoe your a star, and look forward to more wicked features. 

I do have one question if I may

So ive got to the point where I can arm the motion sensor from BI using the .bat script as per the instructions.  My question is, when armed how can I get BI to start recording?

Thanks

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rafonline on August 26, 2014, 06:15:58 pm
Actually one further question

I need Vera to trigger BI to start recording.  This is possible? if so how?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on August 26, 2014, 06:17:06 pm
It will be possible in the upcoming release
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: EOppie on August 26, 2014, 11:11:39 pm
It will be possible in the upcoming release

Woo hoo!
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rafonline on August 27, 2014, 10:46:08 am
Excellent Stuff, cant wait

Undertoe, dont know if this would add value to you, but I have access to the developer of BI...long story.  PM me if you think this would help.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on August 27, 2014, 01:28:15 pm
Excellent Stuff, cant wait

Undertoe, dont know if this would add value to you, but I have access to the developer of BI...long story.  PM me if you think this would help.

You can already trigger BI to start recording by sending a http command. And you can send the http command via LUUP in scene or with PLEG.

The command would be as follows:

http://"YourIP:YourPort"/admin?camera="ShortCarmeraName"&trigger&user="YourUserName"&pw="YourPassword"

So for an example of my computer IP # 192.168.1.100 and port #9999
May camer short name is Patio
and my user is ADMIN and password is TEST

http://192.168.1.100:9999/admin?camera=PATIO&trigger&user=ADMIN&pw=TEST

That will trigger "Patio" camera to start recording

All of this and more can be found in the "BLUE IRIS HELP PDF" serach google for it.

Page 77 under "Direct image, video and command requests"

But if you have access to the developer he should be able to help you. LOL


I currently use this command
/admin?profile=x    Where "X" is the profile number 1-7 that you want. In the example below is #3

http://192.168.1.100:9999/admin?profile=3&user=ADMIN&pw=TEST

Using my current "home and away" setup in vera I can change BI to different profiles that have different alerts and set motion areas. When I'm gone it records inside the house with any motion, and will send me alerts if motion is detected on inside and outside cameras where people shouldn't be if I'm home.

When I'm home I don't want private recordings of inside the house  ;D and I don't want to get a ton of alerts from BI while I'm home.

BI now does some of this with the built in GEOfence on their app, but I haven't got mine to work very well and I already have a more complex setup then just geofence already taking place in vera so I just use PLEG to send a HTTP code to switch up the profile when me or the wife leave.

EDIT: sorry one more thing in LUUP to send an http command you need to put it in this

luup.inet.wget("InsertHttpHere")   
Leaving the "" in place. So for above example would look like this

luup.inet.wget("http://192.168.1.100:9999/admin?profile=3&user=ADMIN&pw=TEST")
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rafonline on August 27, 2014, 03:58:11 pm
oh excellent

so, basically create a scene that will run the http command?

can you give further details on how to do this?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on August 27, 2014, 04:09:30 pm
oh excellent

so, basically create a scene that will run the http command?

can you give further details on how to do this?

Well I personally use PLEG. But for this it's about the same.

Click Automation, click New scene, Click trigger, then add trigger, select your device (Your probley thinking a motion or door sensor) and when its tripped, save that. Then Click LUUP and enter the code with your info I have posted. Confirm and save.

Now every time that sensor you set trips it will send that http command to BI to trip it and start recording for what ever length of time is set in BI.

You can test your HTTP command by opening a web browser and typing in your "Http://" command and if successful you will get a green light and if you look at BI you'll see that camera is tripped for recording.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rafonline on August 27, 2014, 04:48:51 pm
thanks, ill try that.  out of interest what is PLEG?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on August 27, 2014, 05:26:42 pm
thanks, ill try that.  out of interest what is PLEG?

I'ts a Plugin that creates scenes much more advanced then what you can do with the stock Vera automation or scenes section.

Search the forum there's a whole section on it. 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rafonline on August 27, 2014, 05:54:45 pm
ok thanks

Doesnt seem to be working.  Is there a way that I can test the LUUP code from vera directly sending to BI?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on August 27, 2014, 06:02:55 pm
ok thanks

Doesnt seem to be working.  Is there a way that I can test the LUUP code from vera directly sending to BI?

Have you turned off or un checked "secure only" under Options/Web server in BI as talked about further back in this thread?

Test it from a browser first if it don't work there it wont work period. But after you create the scene and enter the loop there is a run this now.

What's your error? Are you useing internet explorer (doesn't work for me on chrome)? Are you doing it locally? Right IP address and port to the BI computer.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rafonline on August 27, 2014, 06:15:31 pm
oh sorry my bad I just read the rest of your post on putting the http in a web browser to test.  It worked once, but doesnt always work upon refresh.  Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rafonline on August 27, 2014, 06:19:40 pm
just like you it doesnt work in chrome, but Safari works nicely (using a mac)

I will try to put it in a scene now
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on August 27, 2014, 06:29:07 pm
oh sorry my bad I just read the rest of your post on putting the http in a web browser to test.  It worked once, but doesnt always work upon refresh.  Any suggestions?

Should always work. Let me know how the scene goes.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rafonline on August 29, 2014, 12:47:28 pm
So the url works everytime through safari no issues.

Ive created the Scene but have done so with nothing inputed into it but the LUUP code.  I click Run now on the scene, and I see nothing being recorded on the BI side.

I know the URL is correct because it works from Safari.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on August 30, 2014, 01:49:45 am
Yea you imputed the wrong code.

XXXX out user and password and copy and paste how you have it. More then likely your missing something.

Did you see this in a few post back. This is how it should look with your HTTP between the "" keeping the "" in there.

luup.inet.wget("http://192.168.1.100:9999/admin?profile=3&user=ADMIN&pw=TEST")

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rafonline on August 30, 2014, 10:37:35 am
Here is what ive got:

luup.inet.wget("http://192.168.1.103:XXX/admin?camera=livingkitchen&trigger&user=XXX&pw=XXXX")

Ive tried it both single quotes and double quotes as I read on a forum somewhere that this can make a difference.

Ive also obviously got the correct port.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on August 30, 2014, 11:28:01 am
Hmmm looks correct. You do have the secure only Un checked in BI?

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rafonline on August 30, 2014, 12:46:37 pm
correct yes I do

its very strange been trying to work it out
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on August 30, 2014, 01:44:54 pm
correct yes I do

its very strange been trying to work it out

Ok i think i found the problem and I'll take the blame for it. Remove the http:

Try this

luup.inet.wget("192.168.1.103:XXX/admin?camera=livingkitchen&trigger&user=XXX&pw=XXXX")

I just looked at my LUUP for blueiris and noticed I don't use http like my others.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on August 31, 2014, 09:07:57 am
I've been playing with the motion trigger and record capabilities of the Plug in and I'm very impresses. I have my cameras connected on my Secondary Vera 3 in a bridged environment and although there is a slight delay for the Motion Sensor status to transmit to the Primary Vera it appears usable.

i have configured a PLEG to detect the Camera Camera Motion Sensor state and combine it with the state of the Front Door Open/Closed sensor to prevent any Blue Iris recording activity when the door is opened first ... i.e. someone is leaving the house. This way I will only get recordings when someone approaches the closed front door. Its still not working as intended but I expect it will once I get everything configured properly.

The real reason for this post is to suggest  that if possible you embed the WGET Record command on the "Record" button of the Camera Icon  and expose that to PLEG. This way configuring the functions would be a straightforward device level function selection and not involve fiddling with LUA code in the PLEG Action function. All of the values for the WGET are already available in the Camera Device.

Thanks for this great tool.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on August 31, 2014, 10:13:52 am
Further to my earlier post I've plugged this luup code into the Action of a PLEG:

luup.inet.wget ("http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:9080/admin&Camera=Entry&trigger&user=name&pw=pass")

and when the PLEG activates nothing records.

i used "http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:9080/admin&Camera=Entry&trigger&user=name&pw=pass" in a web browser and got back "signal=green" but no recording.

I know its something simple but i'm not seeing it.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: fcol on August 31, 2014, 03:30:58 pm
luup.inet.wget ("http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:9080/admin&Camera=Entry&trigger&user=name&pw=pass")

It looks like you might have a space after wget.  If so, then you need to remove it.

In my Blue Iris Web Server settings, I have Authentication=Non-LAN only and the Secure only box unchecked (but I still need to put the user and pw in the html string).  EDIT: Clarification: With Secure Only unchecked, I think you still need the user/pw.  I was fooled once since I could get it to work in the browser without user/pw.  But that was because I had authenticated earlier.  Once I quit the browser, then the trigger wouldn't work anymore without user/pw.

Make sure you are using the camera short name and not the "regular" name in the camera's Blue Iris General tab.  This has screwed me up many times (until I decided to change all short names and full names to be identical).

Also: I use TeamViewer a lot on my LAN and believe that the copy/paste is unreliable.  It seems to sometimes miss characters or use non-standard characters.  So I sometimes paste into a plain text editor and then re-copy/paste from there.  If that doesn't work, then I just manually re-type.  It's confusing since the pasted text looks OK but then re-typing solves the problem.

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on August 31, 2014, 03:35:12 pm
Thanks, it's probably something as stupidly simple like an extra space :-)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: fcol on August 31, 2014, 04:03:25 pm
But since you were having trouble with getting it to work in the web browser, the extra space doesn't explain that failure. ;)
Also try using a browser other than Chrome.
Edit: FYI - You can enter in a lot of "bad" commands/typos via the browser and still receive the "signal=green" response.  So "signal=green" isn't super helpful in troubleshooting.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on August 31, 2014, 06:30:53 pm
But since you were having trouble with getting it to work in the web browser, the extra space doesn't explain that failure. ;)
Also try using a browser other than Chrome.
Edit: FYI - You can enter in a lot of "bad" commands/typos via the browser and still receive the "signal=green" response.  So "signal=green" isn't super helpful in troubleshooting.

Now that you mention it that's true.

I tried it in FireFox and got the same result, "signal=green" but no recording happened.

Is the process sensitive to the path/location of WGET?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: fcol on August 31, 2014, 07:35:20 pm
I've been playing around some more.  I'm finding this works a lot better in my scenes:
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local status, result = luup.inet.wget("http://XXX:XXX/admin?camera=SHORTNAME&trigger&user=XXX&pw=XXX")
I have no idea why adding "local status, result = " works but this seems to be the most reliable way for my setup.

I also just noticed that when testing in the browser, I DO need the user/pw.  I had it working without user/pw but once I quit the browser and tried again, then it wouldn't work.  So it must authenticate once and then subsequent http commands work without user/pw.  But the bottom line is that I need user/pw in my luup

Sorry clippermiami - I'm not sure what else to tell you.  I feel like it has to be something like typo in shortname or your user/pw (since you're getting the signal=green).  You could try some of the other Blue Iris command requests such as http://IPXXX:PORTXXX/admin?profile=X (Temporarily change the active profile to x. Use x=-1 to toggle the lock status).  Other commands can be found in the built-in Blue Iris help under "The Web Server" section.

And apologies to undertoe if we hijacked this thread...  Maybe we should start another?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rafonline on September 01, 2014, 06:28:26 am
Im still having issues.

Ive tried with the http:// and without but still no joy.  Testing directly through a browser works every time using Safari, so I know the URL is correct.  Ive tried the suggestion of adding local status...etc...but also no joy

Ill keep playing around with it and keep you guys updated, but any more suggestions would be a great help.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on September 02, 2014, 12:49:52 am
Im still having issues.

Ive tried with the http:// and without but still no joy.  Testing directly through a browser works every time using Safari, so I know the URL is correct.  Ive tried the suggestion of adding local status...etc...but also no joy

Ill keep playing around with it and keep you guys updated, but any more suggestions would be a great help.

Did you ever setup a trigger? Save and name it and everything. Maybe it's not working because the scene is incomplete.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on September 02, 2014, 07:27:38 am
Fcol lol I was just about to say that. Be nice if we could start a BI tech support forum. I do know some of BI support is on the vera forum.


I think with my latest plugin once properly test will solve all your issues. In very easy to use calls and no need for long luup scripts. I also put in some feature request for specific urls for BI to make things more intergrated.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on September 02, 2014, 07:31:19 am
Fcol lol I was just about to say that. Be nice if we could start a BI tech support forum. I do know some of BI support is on the vera forum.


I think with my latest plugin once properly test will solve all your issues. In very easy to use calls and no need for long luup scripts. I also put in some feature request for specific urls for BI to make things more intergrated.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on September 02, 2014, 02:45:41 pm
I had to power cycle the WiFi Access Point that services the cameras and after it came back up and the cameras reattached i noticed that the Tile reflects "Camera Not Responding" but clicking View displays the camera contents (screen captures attached.)

Is this normal? Is there any way to force the Tile to update/track the actual camera data?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on September 02, 2014, 02:58:26 pm
I have seen that before but not recently. I thinking its more a interface bug than anything. Cause the couple times i did see it i just reloaded and it went away. I don't think that view updates frequently as when you maximize it.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on September 02, 2014, 03:00:22 pm
Just FYI, I reloaded the Vera and it didn't change. Clearly it isn't the end of the world, but its just disconcerting :)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on September 02, 2014, 03:40:35 pm
Just FYI, I reloaded the Vera and it didn't change. Clearly it isn't the end of the world, but its just disconcerting :)

I think this is a VERA issue. Had it a number of times with the camera alone with the BI plugin. That image doesn't refresh for some time. And when it does it should go back to normal.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on September 02, 2014, 03:42:02 pm
Just FYI, I reloaded the Vera and it didn't change. Clearly it isn't the end of the world, but its just disconcerting :)

I think this is a VERA issue. Had it a number of times with the camera alone with the BI plugin. That image doesn't refresh for some time. And when it does it should go back to normal.

Like i said not the end of the world :)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: lorieh on September 02, 2014, 05:47:41 pm
Great plugin. Would anyone know why when viewing the camera I get a constant popping noise. I don't have the noise when viewing in Blue Iris or the Foscam camera program.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: LightsOn on September 03, 2014, 04:24:00 am
Remove tick box in user section in bi for play sound on conect :-)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on September 03, 2014, 09:18:00 am
Remove tick box in user section in bi for play sound on conect :-)

I don't think that it. I have the same problem. It's a constant noise when your listening to audio from the camera threw this plugin.

not the pop when you login.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on September 03, 2014, 09:29:23 am
If this is not related to the plugin functionality inside vera please start a separate thread. this thread is strictly for plugin support and improvements.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: lunchour on September 08, 2014, 05:46:43 pm
I think with my latest plugin once properly test will solve all your issues. In very easy to use calls and no need for long luup scripts. I also put in some feature request for specific urls for BI to make things more intergrated.

Great work, I have integlikewhoa's scene/trigger/luup working so when my armed Aeotec 4 in 1 motion sensor is tripped, BI changes to a profile that starts 5 cameras recording continuously - just what I was looking for. Now I need to figure out stop recording.  My thought is to have Vera issue another Luup command to switch back to another profile that would stop recording.  Tried adding a delay to the scene but can't find a place to add the Luup code.  Any ideas on how to stop recording?  Undertoe, will the update address this type of event?

Thanks
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on September 08, 2014, 07:26:12 pm
I think with my latest plugin once properly test will solve all your issues. In very easy to use calls and no need for long luup scripts. I also put in some feature request for specific urls for BI to make things more intergrated.

Great work, I have integlikewhoa's scene/trigger/luup working so when my armed Aeotec 4 in 1 motion sensor is tripped, BI changes to a profile that starts 5 cameras recording continuously - just what I was looking for. Now I need to figure out stop recording.  My thought is to have Vera issue another Luup command to switch back to another profile that would stop recording.  Tried adding a delay to the scene but can't find a place to add the Luup code.  Any ideas on how to stop recording?  Undertoe, will the update address this type of event?

Thanks

I think you should start a new thread (reguarding to LUUP question) and ask about adding a delay to your current luup. So it would run your current luup then add a delay then run the 2nd (stop command) all part of one trigger or one scene. I'm not good enough with LUUP but it should be something similar to this.

luup.call_delay("XXXXXXX",60)

the 60 is for 60 second delay. The X's are what you want to do in 60 secs. 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: banjeman on September 12, 2014, 07:47:10 pm
I just wanted to thank the dev of this plugin.  Spot On plugin! 
I was worried about getting my QSEE SDI-HD 718 DVR system working with Vera, but with your plugin and blue iris as the middle man I couldn't be happier.  I made the decision to go with SDI-HD over IP cameras based on a good deal I got on the system and really started regretting it when I looked into interfacing Vera with none IP camera systems.  You saved me a lot of grief from my wife and for that I am extremely appreciative.  Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on September 15, 2014, 11:25:52 am
Great news, I was working with Ken the developer of BI and we have came up with a url command to start and stop recording. This will allow the function to be available with the BI vera plugin. This feature will not be released until the new version of BI is out. I will also hold off on releasing anything until i get this feature working.

The new version will include the following

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: TC1 on September 15, 2014, 11:33:35 am
Great news, I was working with Ken the developer of BI and we have came up with a url command to start and stop recording.

Well done, sir.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on September 15, 2014, 11:39:02 am
Great news, I was working with Ken the developer of BI and we have came up with a url command to start and stop recording.

Care to share that command?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on September 15, 2014, 12:21:30 pm
It's not even available yet to use so even if I shared it, it would have no use :) I don't want to jump the gun since it's not officially released. I will wait for BI to make that announcement and when it's out I will be more than happy to pass it along.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on September 15, 2014, 01:58:25 pm
It's not even available yet to use so even if I shared it, it would have no use :) I don't want to jump the gun since it's not officially released. I will wait for BI to make that announcement and when it's out I will be more than happy to pass it along.

Got it, I was assuming BI already had this command in its software. I was unaware a BI software update was needed.

Thanks,
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Don Diego on September 15, 2014, 02:30:37 pm
It's not even available yet to use so even if I shared it, it would have no use :) I don't want to jump the gun since it's not officially released. I will wait for BI to make that announcement and when it's out I will be more than happy to pass it along.

Hi--

  BI update such as a completely new version? or just a update to the current version?

    Don
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: lunchour on September 18, 2014, 01:45:35 pm
Great news, I was working with Ken the developer of BI and we have came up with a url command to start and stop recording.

Care to share that command?

If you set up a scene that when a device is tripped (like a motion sensor) and add the luup command below will trigger recording start in BI.
 
luup.inet.wget("http://192.168.1.140:xxxx/admin?camera=G1&trigger&user=xxxx&pw=xxxx")

192.168.1.140:xxxx is your computer's IP and port that is running BI
Camera=G1 is the camera short name in BI
User=xxxx is your BI user name
Pw=is the BI password

In the camera properties, motion/trigger tab set "End trigger unless re-triggered within xxx.xx sec. (this is the break time)" in the record tab, from the pull down list "Video: when triggered".  You can add more cameras to a group and have them all record if you like.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on September 18, 2014, 02:26:08 pm

If you set up a scene that when a device is tripped (like a motion sensor) and add the luup command below will trigger recording start in BI.
 
luup.inet.wget("http://192.168.1.140:xxxx/admin?camera=G1&trigger&user=xxxx&pw=xxxx")

192.168.1.140:xxxx is your computer's IP and port that is running BI
Camera=G1 is the camera short name in BI
User=xxxx is your BI user name
Pw=is the BI password

In the camera properties, motion/trigger tab set "End trigger unless re-triggered within xxx.xx sec. (this is the break time)" in the record tab, from the pull down list "Video: when triggered".  You can add more cameras to a group and have them all record if you like.

Looks the same as I posted on page 10 post# 144 last month.

You can already trigger BI to start recording by sending a http command. And you can send the http command via LUUP in scene or with PLEG.

The command would be as follows:

http://"YourIP:YourPort"/admin?camera="ShortCarmeraName"&trigger&user="YourUserName"&pw="YourPassword"

So for an example of my computer IP # 192.168.1.100 and port #9999
May camer short name is Patio
and my user is ADMIN and password is TEST

http://192.168.1.100:9999/admin?camera=PATIO&trigger&user=ADMIN&pw=TEST

That will trigger "Patio" camera to start recording

All of this and more can be found in the "BLUE IRIS HELP PDF" serach google for it.

Page 77 under "Direct image, video and command requests"

But if you have access to the developer he should be able to help you. LOL


I currently use this command
/admin?profile=x    Where "X" is the profile number 1-7 that you want. In the example below is #3

http://192.168.1.100:9999/admin?profile=3&user=ADMIN&pw=TEST

Using my current "home and away" setup in vera I can change BI to different profiles that have different alerts and set motion areas. When I'm gone it records inside the house with any motion, and will send me alerts if motion is detected on inside and outside cameras where people shouldn't be if I'm home.

When I'm home I don't want private recordings of inside the house  ;D and I don't want to get a ton of alerts from BI while I'm home.

BI now does some of this with the built in GEOfence on their app, but I haven't got mine to work very well and I already have a more complex setup then just geofence already taking place in vera so I just use PLEG to send a HTTP code to switch up the profile when me or the wife leave.

EDIT: sorry one more thing in LUUP to send an http command you need to put it in this

luup.inet.wget("InsertHttpHere")   
Leaving the "" in place. So for above example would look like this

luup.inet.wget("http://192.168.1.100:9999/admin?profile=3&user=ADMIN&pw=TEST")
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: lunchour on September 19, 2014, 01:08:57 pm

Looks the same as I posted on page 10 post# 144 last month.



It is integlikewhoa, sorry I did not give you credit   :'(

I was looking at so many fourms for different puzzle pices.............
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tommysharp on September 19, 2014, 11:11:17 pm
Awesome plugin! I've been using BI for years now. Haven't used my VeraLite for a while but thought I'd give it a try again and upgraded it to UI7.

I eventually got the cameras to work by unticking the "Secure Only" option in Blue Iris....

But in the Vera UI my camera is always listed under "Failed Devices" even though if I click on it I can see the live image etc.... Any ideas? Is anyone using UI7 with this plugin yet?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on September 20, 2014, 01:48:57 am
Awesome plugin! I've been using BI for years now. Haven't used my VeraLite for a while but thought I'd give it a try again and upgraded it to UI7.

I eventually got the cameras to work by unticking the "Secure Only" option in Blue Iris....

But in the Vera UI my camera is always listed under "Failed Devices" even though if I click on it I can see the live image etc.... Any ideas? Is anyone using UI7 with this plugin yet?

Why would you ruin a good Vera and move to UI7? Half the plugins don't work right with ui7.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: dbeck52 on September 20, 2014, 10:36:56 am
@tommysharp
Had the same problem with the failed device issue.  What I did to clear this condition was to select the camera, go to advanced settings and change the value in "commFailure" to 0.  Then clear out and save, re-load vera, and in my case it finally disappeared from the failed device list.  That is until the next time.  Same procedure followed again with similar results, and has stayed off failed device list for over a week.  Progress??
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tommysharp on September 20, 2014, 05:40:13 pm
Quote
Why would you ruin a good Vera and move to UI7? Half the plugins don't work right with ui7.

Ha fair point! I wasn't very impressed with the vera when I first bought it. Have been using Domoticz on a raspberry Pi for a while now. Was going to sell the Vera but thought I'd give UI7 a try...

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tommysharp on September 20, 2014, 05:41:53 pm
@dbeck52
I power cycle the Vera and my cameras seem to be working well. Will keep an eye on them over the next few days.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rsmed1 on September 23, 2014, 10:17:08 am
Recently got a Vera Lite (came with UI7), installed this plugin from the app marketplace and got one of my Blue Iris cameras working great with the motion detection.  Here is my (somewhat stupid) question...how can I set up my other two cameras in Blue Iris using this plugin?  If I try to 'add a camera', there is no field in the advanced settings to put the camera 'short' name.  It seems I can only add one camera using this plugin 'device'.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on September 23, 2014, 06:55:46 pm
Recently got a Vera Lite (came with UI7), installed this plugin from the app marketplace and got one of my Blue Iris cameras working great with the motion detection.  Here is my (somewhat stupid) question...how can I set up my other two cameras in Blue Iris using this plugin?  If I try to 'add a camera', there is no field in the advanced settings to put the camera 'short' name.  It seems I can only add one camera using this plugin 'device'.

Im not on UI7 some some things will be different but might help.

Go to apps, My apps (see what you have installed) click on the blue iris camera plugin, it will tell you the version number the plugin number and should be a button that says create another. Create on for each camera.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rsmed1 on September 23, 2014, 07:03:11 pm
Thanks for the reply.  I did more research and found that in UI7 there is no link to create another instance of the plugin.  So, I did it the old fashioned way and just went to apps > develop apps > create device...then entered the proper info for each camera and it is working.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on September 23, 2014, 07:08:42 pm
Thanks for the reply.  I did more research and found that in UI7 there is no link to create another instance of the plugin.  So, I did it the old fashioned way and just went to apps > develop apps > create device...then entered the proper info for each camera and it is working.

YUP ui7 for ya. No reason to run it.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rsmed1 on September 23, 2014, 07:13:42 pm
Ha.  I've read not-so-great comments about UI7.  But, I figure since I'm new to this and my Vera Lite came with it...I am going to embrace it and learn it.  Probably easier for me since I've never used an earlier version.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on September 23, 2014, 10:17:38 pm
Ha.  I've read not-so-great comments about UI7.  But, I figure since I'm new to this and my Vera Lite came with it...I am going to embrace it and learn it.  Probably easier for me since I've never used an earlier version.

It's not any easier, it's actually harder right now as alot of things don't work and plugins are compatible.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on September 24, 2014, 07:36:06 am
Guys it would really make me happy to have only Blue Iris support take place in this forum. We all hate topics with pages and pages of things unrelated to the topic. I mean this in a very friendly manner :)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on September 28, 2014, 11:40:10 pm
Just curious, is there any assessment of the memory and CPU impact of adding a camera in the Plug In?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on September 28, 2014, 11:52:01 pm
Just curious, is there any assessment of the memory and CPU impact of adding a camera in the Plug In?

I think your question should be more of "how much" rather then if "any". Every plugin (and child) you add causes a drain to certain extent.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on September 29, 2014, 08:51:57 am
Just curious, is there any assessment of the memory and CPU impact of adding a camera in the Plug In?

I think your question should be more of "how much" rather then if "any". Every plugin (and child) you add causes a drain to certain extent.

That's what I meant and I hoped that "any" would result in "how much" :)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on October 25, 2014, 12:47:23 pm
Great news, I was working with Ken the developer of BI and we have came up with a url command to start and stop recording. This will allow the function to be available with the BI vera plugin. This feature will not be released until the new version of BI is out. I will also hold off on releasing anything until i get this feature working.

The new version will include the following

  • BI profile changing with special functions that handle your cameras config settings
  • Record On and Off Functions
  • Camera Button functionality for integration to BI recording

Any news :)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on October 25, 2014, 01:43:34 pm
Yep working on the ittergration  now
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on October 27, 2014, 07:17:39 pm
Anyone have the New Samsung Note 4 using BI?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on October 30, 2014, 12:02:32 am
^^^ got it working.


How about working on getting BI geofence integrated into VERA? Similar to the motion detection. Getting maybe a muliti switch or maybe creating another device like the motions called "inside or outside" and using blueiris geofence to switch that in vera.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on November 07, 2014, 02:33:37 pm
Not that it has much to do with this Plug In other than a convenient place to share the information, but I've been fiddling with my BI-connected  camera settings with an eye to BI CPU utilization. I have modified the camera settings to 5 fps, 512 Kbps rate, 640x480 and currently with two cameras running I have gotten my normal CPU utilization down from 25% to 7% with no noticable loss of image usability. My near term plan is to install a half dozen more inside and outside cameras with motion triggered recording to DropBox. I eagerly await the integration of this Plug in with BI.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on November 07, 2014, 03:13:54 pm
How about working on getting BI geofence integrated into VERA? Similar to the motion detection. Getting maybe a muliti switch or maybe creating another device like the motions called "inside or outside" and using blueiris geofence to switch that in vera.

Well I setup some HTTP commands for entering and exiting the BI Geofence.  Tied to a virtual switch (MULTISWITCH) in VERA.
Probley over kill but now have Ping sensor, Vera Proximity and BI all tied together with PLEG to make sure it triggers fast and without false alarms.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on November 07, 2014, 03:21:21 pm
How about working on getting BI geofence integrated into VERA? Similar to the motion detection. Getting maybe a muliti switch or maybe creating another device like the motions called "inside or outside" and using blueiris geofence to switch that in vera.

Well I setup some HTTP commands for entering and exiting the BI Geofence.  Tied to a virtual switch (MULTISWITCH) in VERA.
Probley over kill but now have Ping sensor, Vera Proximity and BI all tied together with PLEG to make sure it triggers fast and without false alarms.

Care to elaborate :-)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on November 07, 2014, 08:43:35 pm
Which part? In the blueiris options under devices you have enter and exit buttons. In there you have what to do when that device enters or exit. Towards the bottom it lets you run a http command. I run the following.
YOURVERAIP:PORT/data_request id=lu_action&DeviceNum=100&serviceId=urn:dcineco-com:serviceId:MSwitch1&action=SetStatus7&newStatus7=1

This works for a multiswitch with a device # of 100 and switches button #7 to on. Change the device number to fit your needs and chnage both 7's to your button and the last #1 is for turning  it on change to "0" for off or away.

You can test from your browser then set them up for enter and exit in blueiris server.

Pleg i just have it watching for my 3 inputs and switching a master when 2 of the three enter or exit. I also have it manually switching the 3rd one over if it never switches after 2 of them been on for awhile. Also have a few things setup for it to not switch away if it just said i was home. Keep it from bouncing back and forth if im on the line.

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on November 07, 2014, 08:48:28 pm
Thanks, interesting solution. I'm often amazed at the ingenuity of the users on here :-)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on November 11, 2014, 06:06:50 pm
Been using the Http commands for changing profiles. But every so often I run into a problem where the double command (since your tring to hold that profile) doesn't time right and the profile switches back to default.

Anyone got any solutions before I spin my wheels?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: petewill on November 11, 2014, 07:50:24 pm
Been using the Http commands for changing profiles. But every so often I run into a problem where the double command (since your tring to hold that profile) doesn't time right and the profile switches back to default.

Anyone got any solutions before I spin my wheels?

Not sure if I have a solution but I have been changing my profiles with PLEG for the last month or 2 and haven't had any issues that I know of.  I have 4 profiles: day, night, day away, night away and they have all been changing correctly.  Here is the code I'm using in PLEG:
Code: [Select]
luup.inet.wget("http://IPADDRESS:PORT/admin?profile=1&user=XXXXXX&pw=XXXXXX")
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: SteveZ on November 11, 2014, 07:57:31 pm
Been using the Http commands for changing profiles. But every so often I run into a problem where the double command (since your tring to hold that profile) doesn't time right and the profile switches back to default.

Anyone got any solutions before I spin my wheels?

I don't do the double command to hold the profile I just set the temporary profile time under the schedule tab to 3000 minutes
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on November 11, 2014, 10:28:21 pm
I don't do the double command to hold the profile I just set the temporary profile time under the schedule tab to 3000 minutes

Hmmm and this works without a problem? I have mine set to 99999 and it hasn't worked that way. I do remember playing with that some time ago and I forgot why it didn't work out for me at that time. But I guess it's time to revisit that.

I did fix my problem right now but it's not pretty. Basically I have default 24-7 to profile 7. And in profile 7 I have one camera that faces the street and trees. I set the camera in profile 7 to as sensitive as possible and shortest trigger time so If BI ever misses my 1-4 profiles it defaults to 7 then trips the camera and the camera in profile 7 is set to trigger an HTTP command to flip one of my virtual switches. The PLEG I had before to set my home, away, day and night in BI now looks for this virtual switch to be off. If profile 7 ever trips PLEG re evaluates the current profile and sends the HTTP commands again to BI to correct the wrong profile problem.

This works but ass you can see involves alot more then it needs to. So thanks for your info. I'll relook into the temp profile time. Maybe after to high of a number it results back to zero. 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on November 12, 2014, 10:44:32 am
I don't do the double command to hold the profile I just set the temporary profile time under the schedule tab to 3000 minutes

Thanks I now have set mine to 1500 which should be more then 24 hours and mine change from day to night so it should never be in one schedual for more then say like 16 hours even on the solstice. I did have it set to "99999" and I do think BI told me that over a certain amount it doesn't work. I don't remember what my previous problem was but I don't appear to have any yet, and it's working good.

Thanks Again. 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on November 19, 2014, 06:45:42 pm
Ok guys A little update and more features for us. First the temp profile time seems to be ok, but still missing the beat usually 1 to 2 times a day (I can see VERA run my BI Fix in the logs when it happens). I think this is do to BI updates or computer/BI program restarts, haven't pinned that down but I found a solid solution anyways.

Working with Ken at BI I now have an HTTP command to Run, Temp or Hold the profile.  By adding "lock=x" to the current Http command you can now choose how you want to run that Profile.

lock=0   RUN
lock=1  TEMP
lock=2  HOLD

Example:
luup.inet.wget("http://IPADDRESS:PORT/admin?profile=1&lock=2&user=XXXXXX&pw=XXXXXX")

So this command would "HOLD" profile "1" when ran.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: SteveZ on November 19, 2014, 07:35:07 pm
thanks for posting this, I just tried it and it works. just note for anyone else you need to update to the current version
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on November 19, 2014, 11:29:48 pm
thanks for posting this, I just tried it and it works. just note for anyone else you need to update to the current version

Ohh yes Glad you noted that. That is correct you need to be on atleast version 3.64 there has been more versions after this (inlcuding today 3.64.01 was released) since this came out.

I'm currently working on or looking for a way to have VERA switch my cameras IR's on vs. having the cameras do it. I have some crappy Foscams still hanging around and if I left them auto turn on night vision they turn PINK (IR filter problem) until I manually turn off then back on the IR's. I would like some way to have them auto turn on the IR's threw Blue Iris each night. If anyone has some ideas let me know. Looking for maybe and HTTP command for each camera to flip the IR filter button.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: jhirschhorn on November 20, 2014, 09:32:38 am
Its so funny you mentioned the image turning pink, and the IR issue. I have 1 Foscam which recently started doing that, and I had no clue. I just assumed the cam was on its way out, and I planned on replacing all my Foscams anyhow due to continued issues/quirks with them.

Thanks for the info.  :-)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on November 20, 2014, 12:48:11 pm
Its so funny you mentioned the image turning pink, and the IR issue. I have 1 Foscam which recently started doing that, and I had no clue. I just assumed the cam was on its way out, and I planned on replacing all my Foscams anyhow due to continued issues/quirks with them.

Thanks for the info.  :-)

Yea I have nothing but foscam issues. I had 6 (well still do if you count them) and I'm just babying them everyday to keep working seems like. Night is almost full useless but during the day they look ok. My IR's fliker (which means motion goes off so I have motion off on the bad ones and way way down opn the so so ones, basically I can use motion at night) and most don't work when you look at them they are not lit (The ir's). And the pink issue above. I have found a manual cycle of the IR will fix that Pink problem until the next night comes and they auto turn on.


I never new but BI does have IR commands on and off in the Camera, Scheduling area. Altho I cant use VERA to command this yet, I might not need to as BI has its own Sunrise and Sunset time checker and I can go off that. I'll follow up in a few days on how this is working out. Might fix my Pink Eye problems until I finally toss these Foscams.

I replaced them with Hikvision 3MP bullets, but since these still sort of work, I figure leave them hanging until I can get nothing out of them then trash they go.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: iikingli on November 23, 2014, 01:05:26 pm
I have a quick Question. I have it setup and when I click on View i See the Camera, but in the UI (UI5) i see invalid URL on the Device.  I am i missing something?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on November 27, 2014, 01:11:43 pm
Quote
There was reportedly some work going on that would more closely integrate the BI controls with the "Unofficial" Plug In. Any updates on that?

Do you know what kind of resource impact there is on a) Vera and b) Blue Iris for using this Plug-In ... specifically per camera?

i think I can now answer the (b) part of this myself.

My BI now has 11 cameras defined; currently only two are active the rest are awaiting installation so they report "No Signal" in BI. All the cameras are 1MP, 720P. Ten of them are PoE  and one is Wi-Fi. All are configured as:
- 640x360
- 5 FPS
- 512KB rate.

Blue Iris is currently running on a Zotac ZBOX with 1.8Ghz Intel Atom. With this camera configuration the BI CPU usage shows 4-to-6% with no recording in process.

I have configured eleven camera/plugins on Vera and there is ZERO apparent impact on Blue Iris. There does not appear to be any functional impact on Vera, everything is working just as "crisply" as before the installation.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on December 07, 2014, 12:32:59 pm
jsonBI command interface to Blue Iris now available

I don't know if this has been seen here or not but it looks interesting:

http://www.cam-it.org/index.php?topic=4722.0;topicseen
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: uberpixel on December 11, 2014, 10:45:35 am
I'm having trouble with initial setup.  Vera says "Camera URL is invalid".

Trying to setup my Vera3 with BlueIris and Trendnet TV-IP551WI.

I've tried both downloading the files from Github and installing the app from the app store with the same results.

I'm following every step in the How-to video with no luck.  Is there something I'm missing or are some cameras not compatible?

I've confirmed that the camera functions fine in BlueIris alone, and I can add it to Vera as a "normal" IP camera - although in that case, Vera Mobile tells me that it has to switch to emulation mode to display video.

Any help troubleshooting would be appreciated!

Thanks,
uberpixel
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: mrv777 on December 11, 2014, 11:15:44 am
I'm having trouble with initial setup.  Vera says "Camera URL is invalid".

Trying to setup my Vera3 with BlueIris and Trendnet TV-IP551WI.

I've tried both downloading the files from Github and installing the app from the app store with the same results.

I'm following every step in the How-to video with no luck.  Is there something I'm missing or are some cameras not compatible?

I've confirmed that the camera functions fine in BlueIris alone, and I can add it to Vera as a "normal" IP camera - although in that case, Vera Mobile tells me that it has to switch to emulation mode to display video.

Any help troubleshooting would be appreciated!

Thanks,
uberpixel

Did you already do this:
In Blue Iris on the PC, go to Settings > Web Server and uncheck the "secure only" box.  This allows third party apps to use plaintext or basic authentication

Also, I had to restart the LUA engine the first time I setup a camera
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: uberpixel on December 11, 2014, 08:45:16 pm
Did you already do this:
In Blue Iris on the PC, go to Settings > Web Server and uncheck the "secure only" box.  This allows third party apps to use plaintext or basic authentication

Also, I had to restart the LUA engine the first time I setup a camera

Thanks for the suggestion.  I already had that unchecked.

Any other ideas?  I'm running Blue Iris on WHS2011.  Any chance it's blocking something or lacking a piece of code?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on December 11, 2014, 08:54:54 pm
Same setup with WHS2011 and BI here. Not a problem with any of my 10 camera's. What port did you set up in bi for teh BI webserver? As port 80 is already taken up by the WHS2011 dashboard.

I specify IP.AD.DRE.SS:PORT where the IP address goes and Vera sets it up fine with the BI plugin from the app store installed. Both on UI5 and on Ui7.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: uberpixel on December 11, 2014, 09:54:59 pm
Same setup with WHS2011 and BI here. Not a problem with any of my 10 camera's. What port did you set up in bi for teh BI webserver? As port 80 is already taken up by the WHS2011 dashboard.

I specify IP.AD.DRE.SS:PORT where the IP address goes and Vera sets it up fine with the BI plugin from the app store installed. Both on UI5 and on Ui7.

It defaulted to 81.

Anyone else using Trendnet TV-IP551WI by chance?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: djrakso on December 11, 2014, 11:19:26 pm
Does this plugin or any other plug accept rtsp streaming? If not, what are the best 720p/1080p cameras with IR (night vision) that works well with the VeraEdge?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 11, 2014, 11:53:52 pm
Does this plugin or any other plug accept rtsp streaming? If not, what are the best 720p/1080p cameras with IR (night vision) that works well with the VeraEdge?

Vera is not a video streamer.

Do you have a Blueiris server?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: uberpixel on December 12, 2014, 03:02:59 pm
Same setup with WHS2011 and BI here. Not a problem with any of my 10 camera's. What port did you set up in bi for teh BI webserver? As port 80 is already taken up by the WHS2011 dashboard.

So, I tried installing BI on a different computer running Windows 7 and managed to get it working.  I think I'll try to reinstall on my WHS2011 machine tonight now that I know what settings worked for Win7.  It's possible that I messed up a setting while trying to get it working.

-uberpixel
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on December 12, 2014, 07:00:51 pm
Try using port 8080. It should work as I just checked on my WHS2011 and it is not used.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: uberpixel on December 13, 2014, 11:56:16 am
Try using port 8080. It should work as I just checked on my WHS2011 and it is not used.

Found my problem.  I had allowed blueiris.exe as an exception to my firewall.  But while troubleshooting I turned off my firewall and found that I could connect.  I ran the surprisingly helpful "Troubleshoot my Network - Incoming Connections - Allow other computers to connect to Blue Iris..."  As it turns out, I should have allowed BlueIrisAdmin.exe (shows up with Name "Blue Iris 3" when you run the wizard).

Thanks for the troubleshooting...


Now on to the next issue - when I open the stream in Vera Mobile I get this error:

"Incorrect camera configuration for video streaming, running in emulation mode" - it then shows the video, but I don't understand what the error message is.  I cannot view the video stream in Home Buddy on my Android device - it just says "ERROR:"  Is this a camera capability issue?

Any ideas?

-uberpixel
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on December 13, 2014, 12:43:46 pm
I don't use either app but I am able to view all my camera's (for models see my sig) via both AuthomationHD and ImperiHome apps on Android (Multiple devices and OS versions)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on December 14, 2014, 09:11:23 am
jsonBI command interface to Blue Iris now available

I don't know if this has been seen here or not but it looks interesting:

http://www.cam-it.org/index.php?topic=4722.0;topicseen

I was fiddling with this today in a DOS window in Windows XP and it does indeed work to control Blue Iris. I was able to log in and enable/disable an interior camera.

I don't know how this meshes with the work that is going on to integrate the Plug In with BI. I'm anxious to see the PlugIn work directly with BI and have capabilities such as Login, Enable/Disable camera, Record Start/Stop, etc. exposed for a PLEG to control the camera functions diectly. One thing I want to do is to be able to disable interior cameras if anyone is at home and conversely enable interior cameras if the alarm system is armed and violated regardless of anyone at home or not.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 15, 2014, 11:34:52 am
jsonBI command interface to Blue Iris now available

I don't know if this has been seen here or not but it looks interesting:

http://www.cam-it.org/index.php?topic=4722.0;topicseen

I was fiddling with this today in a DOS window in Windows XP and it does indeed work to control Blue Iris. I was able to log in and enable/disable an interior camera.

I don't know how this meshes with the work that is going on to integrate the Plug In with BI. I'm anxious to see the PlugIn work directly with BI and have capabilities such as Login, Enable/Disable camera, Record Start/Stop, etc. exposed for a PLEG to control the camera functions diectly. One thing I want to do is to be able to disable interior cameras if anyone is at home and conversely enable interior cameras if the alarm system is armed and violated regardless of anyone at home or not.

I do this currently by changing profiles. When I'm home profile "X" doesn't record inside cameras. When I'm away (using PLEG and vera to determine home and away with geofence, and ping sensors) then profile "Y" records. Altho I don't have mine tied to and alarm, It would be easily to add that condition to PLEG and make a Profile "Z" that continues to record all cameras while alarm is active.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on December 15, 2014, 12:03:28 pm
jsonBI command interface to Blue Iris now available

I don't know if this has been seen here or not but it looks interesting:

http://www.cam-it.org/index.php?topic=4722.0;topicseen

I was fiddling with this today in a DOS window in Windows XP and it does indeed work to control Blue Iris. I was able to log in and enable/disable an interior camera.

I don't know how this meshes with the work that is going on to integrate the Plug In with BI. I'm anxious to see the PlugIn work directly with BI and have capabilities such as Login, Enable/Disable camera, Record Start/Stop, etc. exposed for a PLEG to control the camera functions diectly. One thing I want to do is to be able to disable interior cameras if anyone is at home and conversely enable interior cameras if the alarm system is armed and violated regardless of anyone at home or not.

I do this currently by changing profiles. When I'm home profile "X" doesn't record inside cameras. When I'm away (using PLEG and vera to determine home and away with geofence, and ping sensors) then profile "Y" records. Altho I don't have mine tied to and alarm, It would be easily to add that condition to PLEG and make a Profile "Z" that continues to record all cameras while alarm is active.

This is basically what I'm hoping to accomplish. i'm hopeful that the integration of the Blue Iris Plug In and Blue Iris itself will make the interface clean e.g an option/setting in the Plug In that will enable motion sensing in BI, cause BI to notify Vera when motion is sensed, allow Vera to cause a recording, change profiles, turn on lights, etc., I know some of this can be done now but it involves lots of calling WGET with arcane strings to send commands, etc. I'd like to see an interface that my wife/kids can set up, a few simple options/settings to cause things to happen without 20 years of experience in programming :)

{Update}
On further reflection I'd like to see all the BI and camera status and controls exposed for use in PLEGs
Just a few examples:
Triggers:
- Motion Detected Camera N
Device Properties:
- Camera Status (Enabled/Disabled/Recording)
- Profile N Active
Actions:
- BI Select Profile N
- Enable/Disable Camera N
- Record Camera N/All
- Enable/Disable Motion Detection Camera All/N

With this available to PLEG you could create some powerful security/monitoring scenarios with camera control, lighting control, alarm control, etc.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on December 15, 2014, 01:15:55 pm
I'm hoping Undertoe is working on adding the fix for Ui7 so that it doesn't complain about my camera devices not connected anymore. :) I've got 10 of those on top of the UI7 dashboard

As per MCV, for UI7, add in the code the statement: "luup.set_failure(0, lul_device)" if your plugin has initialized correctly.
This appears incompatible with UI5 as per Richard Schaeffer. What works for both but is not advised is : luup.set_failure(false)

Perhaps MCV could provide a standard (recommended) code snippet that would detect the UI it's running on and then execute the recommended statement? So all plugin developers could use that to avoid these issues?
 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 15, 2014, 06:12:57 pm

This is basically what I'm hoping to accomplish. i'm hopeful that the integration of the Blue Iris Plug In and Blue Iris itself will make the interface clean e.g an option/setting in the Plug In that will enable motion sensing in BI, cause BI to notify Vera when motion is sensed, allow Vera to cause a recording, change profiles, turn on lights, etc., I know some of this can be done now but it involves lots of calling WGET with arcane strings to send commands, etc. I'd like to see an interface that my wife/kids can set up, a few simple options/settings to cause things to happen without 20 years of experience in programming :)

{Update}
On further reflection I'd like to see all the BI and camera status and controls exposed for use in PLEGs
Just a few examples:
Triggers:
- Motion Detected Camera N
Device Properties:
- Camera Status (Enabled/Disabled/Recording)
- Profile N Active
Actions:
- BI Select Profile N
- Enable/Disable Camera N
- Record Camera N/All
- Enable/Disable Motion Detection Camera All/N

With this available to PLEG you could create some powerful security/monitoring scenarios with camera control, lighting control, alarm control, etc.

I haven't seen any updates from Undertoe in a few months now, hope hes still working on this.

I think the only weget I use is to change profiles. Blue Iris app already notify's Vera of motion (there is a motion sensor). Most of my work is currently done in PLEG (which isn't easy for everyone) but if PLEG still has to be used down the road I don't see it making anything much easier for the non experienced.

The biggest difference I guess right now would be that your asking for more detail of individual camera. My weget changes the profile and I have a group of cameras. I would run out of profiles if I got real picky and wanted one camera vs. all interior cameras.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on December 15, 2014, 11:19:17 pm
Me thinks Untertoe may be a mite busy changing diapers, nightly feedings and other new baby related chores.  8) 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on December 20, 2014, 12:25:42 pm
I updated the install instructions for installing via mios app store just in case their is any confusion. I will make an install video later.

Anyone using the motion triggering from blue iris to vera, looking for some feedback on that.

re Ver 0.6
undertoe, thanks for a great app. I have mine installed with 4 interior and 9 exterior cameras and motion detection enabled on all  and its working great (my house has lots of odd corners and crannies outside so it takes a camera for just about every window/door :).)

All the BI cameras are PoE with the exception of one Wi-Fi. I got a great price for cameras and switches from Hong Kong so they are all the same manufacturer and software characterisitics, just some interior and some weatherproof exterior

No discernible load on Vera and its accessible from anywhere.

With regard to the motion sensing question I just enabled motion sensing so I'm not doing anything useful with it as yet. However the configuration instructions are easy and I was able to configure all the cameras with motion and the test worked for each one. So far no ACTUAL motion detection but I need to fiddle with the individual camera detection settings in Blue Iris to get it working properly I guess. At least everything is the same so i should be able to work it fairly quickly.

I certainly appreciate your efforts. I look forward to the further integration with Blue Iris when you have time away from 2AM feedings and diapers :)

I make a lot of use of Richard's fantastic PLEG Plug In so I tend to think in terms of how things would work in that environment now --- as I posted earlier some o the things i'd like to see in an integrated approach:

Triggers:
- Motion Detected Camera N

Device Properties:
- Camera Status (Enabled/Disabled/Recording)
- Profile N Active

Actions:
- BI Select Profile N
- Enable/Disable Camera N
- Record Camera N/All
- Enable/Disable Motion Detection Camera All/N

With this available to PLEG you could create some powerful security/monitoring scenarios with camera control, lighting control, alarm control, etc.

Thanks for listening and thanks again for a great app.


Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on December 20, 2014, 05:20:32 pm
I have all my profiles configured and Vera Luup commands (WGET) to change profiles for certain conditions. Right now I've defined 5 profiles and the associated camera behavior

- Normal Daytime
-- Passive monitoring
- Norma; Nighttime
-- Passive monitoring
- Alarm Armed Away
-- Cameras Motion Sensors enabled
- Alarm Armed Home/Instant
-- Cameras Motion Sensors enabled
- Alarm Violated
-- All Cameras in Continuous Record Mode

But I'd like to some up with a way to have an individual outside camera a) detect motion; b) turn on the associated outside light; c) start recording under Vera command; d) send snapshot via EMS/Emaill via Vera. Any hints on Luup code that would command an individual camera to record?

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 20, 2014, 05:51:39 pm
Direct image, video and command requests

In addition to serving HTML pages, Blue Iris can also act as a "video server."  There are a number of methods for retrieving images and video from the Blue Iris web server for use on mobile devices, converting a USB camera into a web camera, or for any other purpose.  Here are the paths to these methods:

/image/{cam-short-name}?q=50&s=80 A single JPEG image from a specific camera or group, with optional quality (q) and scale (s) parameters.  Quality is a percentage from 1-100, and scale may be any number >0.
/image/{cam-short-name}?h=100 You may also specify a specific height (h) or width (w) instead of scale.
/mjpg/{cam-short-name}/video.mjpg An M-JPEG stream.  This stream is compatible with Blue Iris's "MJPEG stream request."
/file/clips/{filename}&mode=jpeg&speed=100 An M-JPEG stream of a clip from your New clips folder.  You may include additional subdirectory names in the filename.  The speed parameter is optional, a percentage of normal playback speed.
/thumbs/{filename} A thumbnail image from a specific file in the New clips folder.
/alerts/{filename} A JPEG image from the Alerts folder.
/admin?profile=x Temporarily change the active profile to x.  Use x=-1 to toggle the lock status.
/admin?camera=x&trigger Trigger camera x (short name)
/admin?signal=x Changes the traffic signal state and returns the current state.  x=0 for red, x=1 for green, x=2 for yellow.  This requires admin authentication.
/audio/{cam-short-name}/temp.wav Pull a raw audio stream (MIME type audio/x-wav).
/cam/{cam-short-name}?pos=x Performs a PTZ command on the specified camera, where x= 0=left, 1=right, 2=up, 3=down, 4=home, 5=zoom in, 6=zoom out
/cam/{cam-short-name}?pos=100 Causes a snapshot image to be captured from the specified camera.
/h264/{cam-short-name}/temp.h264 Pull a raw H.264 stream (MIME type video/H264).  This stream will play in a tool like VLC, and may be used in future versions of the ActiveX control.
/h264/{cam-short-name}/temp.ts Pull an MPEG-2 transport stream (MIME type video/MP2T).
/h264/{cam-short-name}/temp.m or .m3u8 Pull a virtual M3U8 file (MIME type application/vnd.apple.mpegurl).  This will play in QuickTime, iPad and the iPhone using the iPhone Live Streaming format.


This list above is found in the "HELP" inside blue iris program. 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 20, 2014, 06:00:42 pm
So basicly you only need to have vera send

luup.inet.wget("IP_ADDRESS:PORT/admin?camera=CAMERASHORTNAME&trigger&user=USERNAME&pw=PASSWORD")
This will trigger the camera to record (but really blueiris should already trigger it if there was motion so I don't see where your going with this)


Motion sensor already in VERA

When you sense motion PLEG or the like to turn on light and send the command above.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on December 20, 2014, 06:05:41 pm
Thanks!!
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on December 20, 2014, 06:24:36 pm
So basicly you only need to have vera send

luup.inet.wget("IP_ADDRESS:PORT/admin?camera=CAMERASHORTNAME&trigger&user=USERNAME&pw=PASSWORD")
This will trigger the camera to record (but really blueiris should already trigger it if there was motion so I don't see where your going with this)
{SNIP}

Hmmm good point now that you mention it a bit superfluous, eh  :)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 20, 2014, 06:58:52 pm
When im away Blue iris triggers the record and sens the motion to vera. Then in vera i have pleg that when im away and has motion to send a vera alert with a picture. If I need more then that picture I open BI app and watch the recording l.

I currently dont have a need to turn on the light but thats an easy Pleg off the same motion input. So from what i can tell all your request an easily be done already.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on December 21, 2014, 01:05:11 pm
One question I can seem to figure out in all the posts... does the plugin create a separate camera device for each camera you have configured through blue iris. 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on December 21, 2014, 01:43:39 pm
One question I can seem to figure out in all the posts... does the plugin create a separate camera device for each camera you have configured through blue iris.

It didn't in mine. I installed the app and then used the "Create Another" button once for each camera
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 21, 2014, 04:33:55 pm
One question I can seem to figure out in all the posts... does the plugin create a separate camera device for each camera you have configured through blue iris.

It didn't in mine. I installed the app and then used the "Create Another" button once for each camera

This is correct it won't automatically do this. You need to "create another" for each camera you want (same for all other plugins). You then put in the same info but different camera name to assign it to a camera.

If you want the "INDEX" or multi camera screen you can "Create another" for that too.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on December 21, 2014, 05:56:03 pm
One question I can seem to figure out in all the posts... does the plugin create a separate camera device for each camera you have configured through blue iris.

It didn't in mine. I installed the app and then used the "Create Another" button once for each camera

This is correct it won't automatically do this. You need to "create another" for each camera you want (same for all other plugins). You then put in the same info but different camera name to assign it to a camera.

If you want the "INDEX" or multi camera screen you can "Create another" for that too.

Cool. thanks! 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on December 21, 2014, 05:59:30 pm
Hey... one last question.  Is there a way to get BI to see a webcam on another computer, other than the one it's installed on?  Although my wife might find that a bit creepy!
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: TC1 on December 21, 2014, 06:09:10 pm
Hey... one last question.  Is there a way to get BI to see a webcam on another computer, other than the one it's installed on?  Although my wife might find that a bit creepy!

I ain't going near that question.... I value my life  ;D
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on December 21, 2014, 06:10:34 pm
Hey... one last question.  Is there a way to get BI to see a webcam on another computer, other than the one it's installed on?  Although my wife might find that a bit creepy!

I ain't going near that question.... I value my life  ;D

In that case i won't say anything because I value your life too  8)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 21, 2014, 06:28:02 pm
Hey... one last question.  Is there a way to get BI to see a webcam on another computer, other than the one it's installed on?  Although my wife might find that a bit creepy!
Can you give us more info so we can either help you or alert your wife. Lol

When you say webcam do you mean webcam?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on December 21, 2014, 07:01:38 pm
Hey... one last question.  Is there a way to get BI to see a webcam on another computer, other than the one it's installed on?  Although my wife might find that a bit creepy!

Yes. Install Blue Iris on that 2nd computer and have it serve that camera up to your main BI server. :)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 21, 2014, 08:19:25 pm
Hey... one last question.  Is there a way to get BI to see a webcam on another computer, other than the one it's installed on?  Although my wife might find that a bit creepy!

Yes. Install Blue Iris on that 2nd computer and have it serve that camera up to your main BI server. :)

I'm sure there would be perfoomance issues but if you could get a wan ip and port forward from that other computer couldn't you just use that info in blueiris under the video settings?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on December 21, 2014, 09:32:41 pm
I would think that if the camera a) has an IP address, b) is one the same LAN or c) has a routable address and there is a firewall passthrough for it on the LAN, Blue Iris should be able to see it. I wouldn't want to vouch for performance across an external network but ...

Some webcams do not have IP addresses, most commonly ones for access only by an Android or iPhone so they probably wouldn't work. I have played an app called IP WebCam Pro on Android smartphone that sets up a camera that takes the IP address of the base Android device and that worked in BI albeit on the same LAN
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on December 21, 2014, 10:32:57 pm
Most usb and built-in webcams generally are not accessible via an IP address/port combination unless there is some for of server/service running on that computer to facilitate that kind of access. A solution could be to install the free iSpy (www.ispyconnect.com/) software for that. That app can be remotely controlled via command line parameters via http://www.ispyconnect.com/userguide-commandline.aspx and http://www.ispyconnect.com/userguide-http.aspx.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on December 22, 2014, 11:09:24 am
Profile and Schedule Management
-------------------------------------------
I have these Profiles defined in Blue Iris:
- Profile 1: Normal Daytime - Exterior Cameras Enabled/Interior Cameras Disabled
- Profile 2: Normal Night- Exterior Cameras Enabled/Interior Cameras Disabled
- Profile 3: Alarm Armed Home - Exterior Cameras Enabled, Motion Sensing Active/Selected Interior Cameras Disabled
- Profile 4: Alarm Armed Away - ALL Cameras Enabled, Motion Sensing Active
- Profile 5: Alarm Violated - ALL Cameras in Continuous Record Mode

I have configured the corresponding Profile controls configured in the VERA system that interfaces my DSC Alarm. When the Alarm is Disarmed there is a test for Day/Night and it sends the appropriate control to BI to select the "Normal Daytime" or "Normal Night" profiles.

        luup.inet.wget("http://<BI IP ADDR>:<BI IP PORT>/admin?profile=1&user=<USER>&pw=<PWORD>")

Similarly when the Alarm is Armed or Violated it sends BI the appropriate Profile Command.

        luup.inet.wget("http://<BI IP ADDR>:<BI IP PORT>/admin?profile=4&user=<USER>&pw=<PWORD>")

I have validated these Profiles, Controls, and Communications in Vera/BI so they do work as intended. In effect, Vera is providing an External Schedule Manager for BI.

It appears that it will work as intended but only if I disable all of BI's internal scheduling i.e. disable the Global Schedule and the individual Camera Schedules and rely solely on the Profile Controls without negative results in BI. Anyone done this?

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 22, 2014, 11:45:15 am
Profile and Schedule Management
-------------------------------------------
I have these Profiles defined in Blue Iris:
- Profile 1: Normal Daytime - Exterior Cameras Enabled/Interior Cameras Disabled
- Profile 2: Normal Night- Exterior Cameras Enabled/Interior Cameras Disabled
- Profile 3: Alarm Armed Home - Exterior Cameras Enabled, Motion Sensing Active/Selected Interior Cameras Disabled
- Profile 4: Alarm Armed Away - ALL Cameras Enabled, Motion Sensing Active
- Profile 5: Alarm Violated - ALL Cameras in Continuous Record Mode

I have configured the corresponding Profile controls configured in the VERA system that interfaces my DSC Alarm. When the Alarm is Disarmed there is a test for Day/Night and it sends the appropriate control to BI to select the "Normal Daytime" or "Normal Night" profiles.

        luup.inet.wget("http://<BI IP ADDR>:<BI IP PORT>/admin?profile=1&user=<USER>&pw=<PWORD>")

Similarly when the Alarm is Armed or Violated it sends BI the appropriate Profile Command.

        luup.inet.wget("http://<BI IP ADDR>:<BI IP PORT>/admin?profile=4&user=<USER>&pw=<PWORD>")

I have validated these Profiles, Controls, and Communications in Vera/BI so they do work as intended. In effect, Vera is providing an External Schedule Manager for BI.

It appears that it will work as intended but only if I disable all of BI's internal scheduling i.e. disable the Global Schedule and the individual Camera Schedules and rely solely on the Profile Controls without negative results in BI. Anyone done this?

Yup thats what I do now.

Except mine uses day and night (since I have different motion trip settings due to sensitivity issues with ir lights and such)
So I basically have

Home day
Away day
Home night
Away night

I don't record internal cameras and such when I'm home. When we are away the internal cameras record on any motion and send notifications of any motion.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on December 22, 2014, 12:24:04 pm
Thanks all... especially for the laugh!
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on December 22, 2014, 12:42:26 pm
integlikewhoa, thanks ... always good to have confirmation you are n ot the only guy making the mistake  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: TC1 on December 22, 2014, 12:46:07 pm
integlikewhoa, thanks ... always good to have confirmation you are n ot the only guy making the mistake  ;D ;D

That's why I have the wife.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: mda on December 22, 2014, 02:52:36 pm
@undertoe - thanks for the great plugin. I am running 4 cameras on it. I am seeing errors like this in my log. Is it anything to be concerned about? The cameras seem to be working fine though but i can not view archived images on vera. The errors will happen for a few minutes then not for a few minutes, then repeat a few minutes later etc.

(Luup is restarting on my vera a few times a day and i do not know if that is related to this or not).

Thanks for any help !


Code: [Select]
02      12/22/14 11:35:54.773   write_data_header aborting <0x3019e680>
02      12/22/14 11:35:54.775   Generic_IP_Camera_Manager::REQ_Image return:23 httpresp:200 unhandled <0x3019e680>
02      12/22/14 11:37:05.101   LOG_CHECK_MEMORY_LEAK pMem start 0x1d78000 now 0x1f32000 last 0x1e2f000 leaked 1810432 __LEAK__ this:1060864 start:3125248 to 0x1f32000 <0x2b6eb680>
02      12/22/14 11:37:06.742   write_data_header aborting <0x3039e680>
02      12/22/14 11:37:06.744   Generic_IP_Camera_Manager::REQ_Image return:23 httpresp:200 unhandled <0x3039e680>
02      12/22/14 11:37:09.744   write_data_header aborting <0x3099e680>
02      12/22/14 11:37:09.745   Generic_IP_Camera_Manager::REQ_Image return:23 httpresp:200 unhandled <0x3099e680>
02      12/22/14 11:37:24.749   write_data_header aborting <0x3019e680>
02      12/22/14 11:37:24.751   Generic_IP_Camera_Manager::REQ_Image return:23 httpresp:200 unhandled <0x3019e680>
02      12/22/14 11:38:05.101   LOG_CHECK_MEMORY_LEAK pMem start 0x1d78000 now 0x263d000 last 0x1f32000 leaked 9195520 __LEAK__ this:7385088 start:10510336 to 0x263d000 <0x2b6eb680>
02      12/22/14 11:38:45.687   IPCamera::HasBackgroundOperations 87 has view 0x3058fae0 preroll 0/0 <0x3039e680>
02      12/22/14 11:38:45.687   Generic_IP_Camera_Manager::REQ_Relay camera 87 is busy <
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on December 22, 2014, 08:15:24 pm
Can someone please tell me, for the love of all that is holy, what the heck that popping noise is that continues like crazy while setting this up?   I thought maybe it was a motion alert, so I turned off motion while I was working in Vera, and it still makes the noise.

Doesn't seem to do it if I am running BI on top of desktop and have the camera device closed in Vera. 

I can't find the setting anywhere in BI.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Mike on December 22, 2014, 08:30:01 pm
Can someone please tell me, for the love of all that is holy, what the heck that popping noise is that continues like crazy while setting this up?   I thought maybe it was a motion alert, so I turned off motion while I was working in Vera, and it still makes the noise.

Doesn't seem to do it if I am running BI on top of desktop and have the camera device closed in Vera. 

I can't find the setting anywhere in BI.

The bubble sounding noise? That happens when you log into BI web server. You can adjust it via BI Options -> Users, then edit specific users and you will see "On login play sound"
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 22, 2014, 08:33:43 pm
Can someone please tell me, for the love of all that is holy, what the heck that popping noise is that continues like crazy while setting this up?   I thought maybe it was a motion alert, so I turned off motion while I was working in Vera, and it still makes the noise.

Doesn't seem to do it if I am running BI on top of desktop and have the camera device closed in Vera. 

I can't find the setting anywhere in BI.

the Poping noise is made when a remote user logs into or out of blue iris. It's in the main server setting under the user.

So on your computer open the blue iris program, settings (wrenches), then users, click on one of the users, then click edit, Bottom center of page says alerts and play this on login and that on log out. Just uncheck those for each user you want to stop the noise from.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on December 22, 2014, 08:42:35 pm
Can someone please tell me, for the love of all that is holy, what the heck that popping noise is that continues like crazy while setting this up?   I thought maybe it was a motion alert, so I turned off motion while I was working in Vera, and it still makes the noise.

Doesn't seem to do it if I am running BI on top of desktop and have the camera device closed in Vera. 

I can't find the setting anywhere in BI.

the Poping noise is made when a remote user logs into or out of blue iris. It's in the main server setting under the user.

So on your computer open the blue iris program, settings (wrenches), then users, click on one of the users, then click edit, Bottom center of page says alerts and play this on login and that on log out. Just uncheck those for each user you want to stop the noise from.

oh, I so owe you a beer!  thanks.  I would think it would make the noise just once... but it just keeps playing over and over again, like Vera was constantly logging on.  does that makes sense?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on December 22, 2014, 08:51:46 pm
Another question.

I've complete the setup... both camera and motion.
in BI.. the camera view has a red border when there is motion, so I believe that is working. (I have motion sensing enabled)
If I go into settings/alerts and run the text (per instructions), the device in Vera (U15) changes to red, indicating the connection is working.

However,... when I try to test in real life scenario, meaning I move in front of camera, the icon never changes in Vera. 

What am I missing?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 22, 2014, 08:53:17 pm
Can someone please tell me, for the love of all that is holy, what the heck that popping noise is that continues like crazy while setting this up?   I thought maybe it was a motion alert, so I turned off motion while I was working in Vera, and it still makes the noise.

Doesn't seem to do it if I am running BI on top of desktop and have the camera device closed in Vera. 

I can't find the setting anywhere in BI.

the Poping noise is made when a remote user logs into or out of blue iris. It's in the main server setting under the user.

So on your computer open the blue iris program, settings (wrenches), then users, click on one of the users, then click edit, Bottom center of page says alerts and play this on login and that on log out. Just uncheck those for each user you want to stop the noise from.

oh, I so owe you a beer!  thanks.  I would think it would make the noise just once... but it just keeps playing over and over again, like Vera was constantly logging on.  does that makes sense?

Beer ME!

Well the popping noise usually only makes it once when the app or Vera is opened. But depending on the app your using and the refreshing it's quit possible that noise continues when the app refreshes.  A quick uncheck for each user (including anonymous) will tell you if all is good.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 22, 2014, 09:03:14 pm
Another question.

I've complete the setup... both camera and motion.
in BI.. the camera view has a red border when there is motion, so I believe that is working. (I have motion sensing enabled)
If I go into settings/alerts and run the text (per instructions), the device in Vera (U15) changes to red, indicating the connection is working.

However,... when I try to test in real life scenario, meaning I move in front of camera, the icon never changes in Vera. 

What am I missing?

The link..... get it missing link. LOL

Right click on the camera, open camera properties, then click on alerts, check the "Run Program or Execute a script" I'm asumming you did this but....... Things you need to check for are:

Each profile (1-7) your using has this setup.
Right below each profile you have fire when camera is trigger
and the motion check box is used.


Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on December 22, 2014, 09:17:03 pm
Another question.

I've complete the setup... both camera and motion.
in BI.. the camera view has a red border when there is motion, so I believe that is working. (I have motion sensing enabled)
If I go into settings/alerts and run the text (per instructions), the device in Vera (U15) changes to red, indicating the connection is working.

However,... when I try to test in real life scenario, meaning I move in front of camera, the icon never changes in Vera. 

What am I missing?

The link..... get it missing link. LOL

Right click on the camera, open camera properties, then click on alerts, check the "Run Program or Execute a script" I'm asumming you did this but....... Things you need to check for are:

Each profile (1-7) your using has this setup.
Right below each profile you have fire when camera is trigger
and the motion check box is used.

And... as it turns out, you have to have the traffic light on :-)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 22, 2014, 09:25:17 pm
And... as it turns out, you have to have the traffic light on :-)

Ehhh
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on December 23, 2014, 12:37:33 am
I have a quick Question. I have it setup and when I click on View i See the Camera, but in the UI (UI5) i see invalid URL on the Device.  I am i missing something?

Same issue.  My guess is that it has something to do with the URL settings.

anyone?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 23, 2014, 12:45:08 am
Working here and this is what I have set.

XXXX= the short camera name


DirectStreamingURL= /mjpg/XXXX/video.mjpg
URL = /image/XXXX?q=80&s=80
CameraName= XXXX
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on December 23, 2014, 10:17:18 am
If you can see the camera image when you click the camera thumbnail your settings are correct. It seems the UI caches that thumbnail image and it may be a remnant from when you set it up. I've had it as well and a while later the thumbnail updated and showed the camera image. 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on December 24, 2014, 06:18:56 pm
Just received an Email, Blue Iris version 4.0 is now available
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Don Diego on December 24, 2014, 06:20:17 pm
Just received an Email, Blue Iris version 4.0 is now available

So then I wonder if the plugin will work ith Blue Iris 4.0

Any thoughts?

Don
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on December 24, 2014, 06:23:30 pm
Just received an Email, Blue Iris version 4.0 is now available

So then I wonder if the plugin will work ith Blue Iris 4.0

Any thoughts?

Don

Good question.Who will bite the bullet first :-)

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 24, 2014, 06:25:00 pm
Just received an Email, Blue Iris version 4.0 is now available

So then I wonder if the plugin will work ith Blue Iris 4.0

Any thoughts?

Don

Good question.Who will bite the bullet first :-)

I just paid for it!  ;D
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 24, 2014, 07:21:20 pm
Updated to 4 without any problems and everything still works as normal. Haven't really played with it yet.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on December 24, 2014, 07:23:29 pm
I'm waiting for confirmation that the current BI plug-in works with the new version. Otherwise I am going to have to hold off as I depend on that plug-in.

@integlikewhoa: Are you confirming the BI plugin works with the 4.0 version?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on December 24, 2014, 09:11:50 pm
Updated to 4 without any problems and everything still works as normal. Haven't really played with it yet.

Your comrades appreciate your willingness to take one for the team :-)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 25, 2014, 03:00:28 am
I'm waiting for confirmation that the current BI plug-in works with the new version. Otherwise I am going to have to hold off as I depend on that plug-in.

@integlikewhoa: Are you confirming the BI plugin works with the 4.0 version?

Yes I use ImperiHome and Autohomation and everything I have tested is working fine. Really only a few minor things have changed and the Looks are a big one. I'm thinking their biggest change was the 64 bit. But I updated and everything carried right over and has been working without a problem so far. The motion sensors and video all display without any changes needing to be made after the update.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on December 25, 2014, 08:14:14 am
Thanks for the update. I just got in a Lenovo TS140 with Xeon E3-1225 that I will be upgrading my existing BI server to as that one ran at between 60 and 70 % CPU utilization. Guess I'll get that one set up and then run the BI upgrade to it. Gotta find some RAM at a good price for it though as it only came with 1 4GB of DDR3 ECC unregistered stick.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on December 28, 2014, 03:03:03 pm
I updated to version 4 last night and everything went perfectly.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on December 29, 2014, 01:23:06 pm
Just purchased V4 at the update price. Noticed I received a new key. Since I'm about to build a new server, I'll leave the old v3 one up and running and install v4 on the new server once I got the OS all configured. That way I don't have to worry about key transfer.

Now just to find a %#$ license for WHS2011 as it seems MS discontinued that product. I;m not wanting to spend $400 on Server 2012 essentials as I don't really need that power. 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: fcol on December 29, 2014, 03:56:28 pm
[This post is NOT related to the plugin]
I just updated to BI v4 this morning and am running into some playback issues that totally crash BI.  From reading the support forums over at cam-it.org and ipcamtalk.com, it seems I'm not the only one.  I just wanted to post a word of caution here. 

Also, please use these other forums (or start another topic) for general BI discussion - yes, I understand the irony of this specific post  ;)  But I'm sure the plugin author would appreciate it with the new baby and all...
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on December 29, 2014, 05:20:22 pm
Just purchased V4 at the update price. Noticed I received a new key. Since I'm about to build a new server, I'll leave the old v3 one up and running and install v4 on the new server once I got the OS all configured. That way I don't have to worry about key transfer.

Now just to find a %#$ license for WHS2011 as it seems MS discontinued that product. I;m not wanting to spend $400 on Server 2012 essentials as I don't really need that power.

@BOFH.  I work for MS... although not even close to that department.  I do know that you can't legally move an OEM license over... did you build your original WHS, or was it an OEM machine?  If you built it yourself with a retail copy of WHS, you should be able to call MS and they'll move the license for you.  Now what number to call is another question :-). 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on December 29, 2014, 06:14:16 pm
Thank for that suggestion. It does work as I've already done it once moving the server from a an HP N40L to my current homebuilt quad core Phenom II system. For the same reason I want to move it to the TS140, BI hogging the CPU. I believe, I have 1 more iteration left for the non-OEM WHS2011 I purchased. If I can't find another WHS2011 CoA for a resonable price, I may try and move it again and put 8.1 or the 10 preview on the Phenom II box for testing.

It's a pity as WHS2011 is actually pretty stable as a BI server / Serviio media server and a nice bonus is that it makes a backup of both my workstation and HTPC in the wee hours of the night.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 30, 2014, 12:34:30 am
Thank for that suggestion. It does work as I've already done it once moving the server from a an HP N40L to my current homebuilt quad core Phenom II system. For the same reason I want to move it to the TS140, BI hogging the CPU. I believe, I have 1 more iteration left for the non-OEM WHS2011 I purchased. If I can't find another WHS2011 CoA for a resonable price, I may try and move it again and put 8.1 or the 10 preview on the Phenom II box for testing.

It's a pity as WHS2011 is actually pretty stable as a BI server / Serviio media server and a nice bonus is that it makes a backup of both my workstation and HTPC in the wee hours of the night.

I use 8.1 for this now with its storage spaces and media server. It runs BI and PLEX and handles all the home computers/mobile storage and backups. I usually just consult my private torrent community for software advise.  ;)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on December 30, 2014, 01:38:24 pm
Question for you all.  I have this plugin setup with motion detection for my front door... and it works great.  Whenever there is motion, it uses the imperihome plugin to change all my tablet screens to the camera view for 2 minutes, as well as sends me a notification on my phone.

Here's my problem.  My front doors are partially frosted glass.  If anyone walks by them 'inside' the house, the camera also sees that motion and reacts 'appropriately'.   :P   

I know I can use the setting in BI to not have motion detected within the pixels that represent the glass, but i'm afraid that will take out too much setting from the outside.

any thoughts?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Mgsmith75 on December 30, 2014, 02:07:08 pm
Change the contrast sensitivity on the motion detection with in BI. There are to sensitivity setting for BI to control for motion. I think if you make the contrast less sensitive that should make it better


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Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on December 30, 2014, 03:08:26 pm
I use 8.1 for this now with its storage spaces and media server. It runs BI and PLEX and handles all the home computers/mobile storage and backups. I usually just consult my private torrent community for software advise.  ;)

Since I can't find any WHS2011 COA's at a reasonable price, I may have to go that way as well. $99 is a lot better than $397.
I don't care about the media server as I prefer to use Serviio instead.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on December 30, 2014, 09:27:44 pm
Change the contrast sensitivity on the motion detection with in BI. There are to sensitivity setting for BI to control for motion. I think if you make the contrast less sensitive that should make it better


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perfect... worked great.  RTFM I guess :-)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on December 31, 2014, 02:58:29 pm
I decided to switch all my cameras over to BI today and use the plugin.

Question:  Any reason I should keep the Vistacam and Foscam apps that I have installed on my vera3 since I've deleted the devices that use them?  are they taking up much space?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 31, 2014, 07:14:58 pm
I decided to switch all my cameras over to BI today and use the plugin.

Question:  Any reason I should keep the Vistacam and Foscam apps that I have installed on my vera3 since I've deleted the devices that use them?  are they taking up much space?

I don't know how much space if any they take up...... But why keep them? I deleted all mine. I doubt I'll ever use them again but its easy to re-install if I do.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on January 02, 2015, 02:58:43 pm
Is there a way for Blue Iris to report its current state e.g. active profile to Vera  in order to compare to what Vera thinks should be the state?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on January 02, 2015, 04:37:09 pm
Upgraded to v4, and am having slight problem via plugin.

I can pull up the camera in U15, and it shows up... then the view goes away after about 20 seconds.  sometimes pops back, sometimes not.  If I reload, all Is well.

I did delete my foscam/vistacam plugins, but don't think that's it. 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on January 02, 2015, 04:49:27 pm
I hadn't noticed it before but its doing it on my Vera3/UI5 as well. If is HIGHLY inconsistent, sometimes it happens almost immediately and reclicking re-displays the image. The dropout may occur again immediately or it may not. There doesn't appear to be a pattern to it.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on January 03, 2015, 12:48:32 pm
I hadn't noticed it before but its doing it on my Vera3/UI5 as well. If is HIGHLY inconsistent, sometimes it happens almost immediately and reclicking re-displays the image. The dropout may occur again immediately or it may not. There doesn't appear to be a pattern to it.

Yep... exactly.  Plugin problem, or in BI?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on January 03, 2015, 12:54:08 pm
I suspect that something in BI has changed that our friendly Plug In developer couldn't anticipate :-)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on January 03, 2015, 01:14:55 pm
I suspect that something in BI has changed that our friendly Plug In developer couldn't anticipate :-)

The BI developer is super responsive.. I may ping him just to see if he has any ideas as I'm already on another email conversation with him regarding something else.

@undertoe... put down the egg nog and fix this.  Hahahahahahahahahaha 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: TheRedPill on January 05, 2015, 12:43:03 pm
Hi all

I installed the plugin and seems to be communicating with BI, as no errors now since setting the IP of the web server, but I get nothing displayed in the dashboard. I am running BI4 in demo mode right now, so not sure if its related to either of those facts?

Cheers
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 05, 2015, 12:48:16 pm
Hi all

I installed the plugin and seems to be communicating with BI, as no errors now since setting the IP of the web server, but I get nothing displayed in the dashboard. I am running BI4 in demo mode right now, so not sure if its related to either of those facts?

Cheers

Demo won't matter. Have you added each camera one at a time? All the cameras don't just appear in VERA after you install the plugin.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: TheRedPill on January 05, 2015, 02:03:13 pm
I only have one camera. From reading the instructions, I got the impression that the index of cameras would show immediately after setup, then I have to configure the device to show one camera. I don't get any images at all. Should I be able to navigate directly to the <webip:81>/<link from the device settings> to test if it works manually? I tried that and get blank page.

Thanks
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on January 05, 2015, 02:16:58 pm
You still have to create a device even for the Index view.

Under UI5, go to Apps, My apps amd click on Blue Iris plugin. In the window that opens, under the Plugin Control tab, click Create another button. This should create a new camera device that defaults to the index one. (I haven't done it under UI5 as I've run the plugin there since beta status and did it all by hand)

Under UI7, go to Apps, My Apps, Blue Iris plugin -> details and click the 'Create another' button for a new camera device. Which will default to the Index one. Under Advanced, replace all instances of Index with the BI shortname for the camera you want to view



Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: TheRedPill on January 05, 2015, 03:36:02 pm
You still have to create a device even for the Index view.

Under UI5, go to Apps, My apps amd click on Blue Iris plugin. In the window that opens, under the Plugin Control tab, click Create another button. This should create a new camera device that defaults to the index one. (I haven't done it under UI5 as I've run the plugin there since beta status and did it all by hand)

Under UI7, go to Apps, My Apps, Blue Iris plugin -> details and click the 'Create another' button for a new camera device. Which will default to the Index one. Under Advanced, replace all instances of Index with the BI shortname for the camera you want to view

Hmm thats surprising as I have a camera device that was created when I installed from the app store. Does this one not default to the index, or is this some kind of parent device? In the config, it shows this under the URL setting, hence why I wondered if I should be able to go direct to that URL (which does not work either).
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: TheRedPill on January 05, 2015, 03:50:03 pm
Ah it works if I add the camera shortname, so I guess its the index that doesnt work. Any ideas if index would only activate if I had multiple cameras?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 05, 2015, 05:02:00 pm
Ah it works if I add the camera shortname, so I guess its the index that doesnt work. Any ideas if index would only activate if I had multiple cameras?

I don't think so. But if you only had one camera "index" would be pointless, so I guess we shall never know.  ;D
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: TheRedPill on January 06, 2015, 11:07:26 am
So, I now have 2 cameras and the index view is still not working, either in the device or if I use the URL directly (assuming I am using the right one). Does this work for anyone else who is using v4?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 06, 2015, 11:18:58 am
So, I now have 2 cameras and the index view is still not working, either in the device or if I use the URL directly (assuming I am using the right one). Does this work for anyone else who is using v4?

I don't use index, but I'll create one right now to find out. I'm on ui5 and you?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 06, 2015, 12:33:52 pm
So, I now have 2 cameras and the index view is still not working, either in the device or if I use the URL directly (assuming I am using the right one). Does this work for anyone else who is using v4?

BlueIris v4.0.0.16 x64
UI5 on Veralite
Plugin V 0.6

Picture attached
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: TheRedPill on January 06, 2015, 04:46:28 pm
Well I am getting there slowly... I created a new device and this time it worked. Not sure why not in the old device, but thats ok! However now I have a new problem. Intermittently I get "Camera requires valid username / password" when I click on view. Its very wierd because it happens sometimes but not others... even couple of times whilst I was looking at the camera.  I am on UI5 and I currently have BI set to authenticate on non LAN only, so I thought that should mean its using anonymous when connecting from home? When it happens, it seems to affect both camera views and index view. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 06, 2015, 05:50:55 pm
Well I am getting there slowly... I created a new device and this time it worked. Not sure why not in the old device, but thats ok! However now I have a new problem. Intermittently I get "Camera requires valid username / password" when I click on view. Its very wierd because it happens sometimes but not others... even couple of times whilst I was looking at the camera.  I am on UI5 and I currently have BI set to authenticate on non LAN only, so I thought that should mean its using anonymous when connecting from home? When it happens, it seems to affect both camera views and index view. Any ideas?

I think you go back to post 305 on a page or so back you'll see your not the only one that has that problem. Seems to happen on all cameras but for me it only does it in the UI (webpage) not on any of my mobile devices. So I haven't been worried about it, but I think it came along with the recent upgrade.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 06, 2015, 05:53:13 pm
I suspect that something in BI has changed that our friendly Plug In developer couldn't anticipate :-)

The BI developer is super responsive.. I may ping him just to see if he has any ideas as I'm already on another email conversation with him regarding something else.

@undertoe... put down the egg nog and fix this.  Hahahahahahahahahaha

Did you ever get with BI on this? Do you notice it's only in the UI and not on mobile apps?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: TheRedPill on January 07, 2015, 04:47:24 am
Well I am getting there slowly... I created a new device and this time it worked. Not sure why not in the old device, but thats ok! However now I have a new problem. Intermittently I get "Camera requires valid username / password" when I click on view. Its very wierd because it happens sometimes but not others... even couple of times whilst I was looking at the camera.  I am on UI5 and I currently have BI set to authenticate on non LAN only, so I thought that should mean its using anonymous when connecting from home? When it happens, it seems to affect both camera views and index view. Any ideas?

I think you go back to post 305 on a page or so back you'll see your not the only one that has that problem. Seems to happen on all cameras but for me it only does it in the UI (webpage) not on any of my mobile devices. So I haven't been worried about it, but I think it came along with the recent upgrade.

Could be, although that post does not mention an issue with Userid / password, it just says the view goes blank. Are you seeing a username / password error when you have the issue via the UI, or just a blank screen?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on January 07, 2015, 08:05:01 am
For shits and giggles i tested out the same camera that cuts out the picture through BI and set the camera up directly with Vera. Does the same thing when not going through BI. So I would have to guess its a UI issue. Anyone else experience the same?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on January 07, 2015, 08:34:33 am
For shits and giggles i tested out the same camera that cuts out the picture through BI and set the camera up directly with Vera. Does the same thing when not going through BI. So I would have to guess its a UI issue. Anyone else experience the same?

As i said earlier I just noticed this following the last BI update but I wasn't paying much attention before that, I don't really use the Vera display very much. so it could have been there and gone unnoticed :)

I'm on UI5, BI 4

John
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 07, 2015, 08:37:21 am
For shits and giggles i tested out the same camera that cuts out the picture through BI and set the camera up directly with Vera. Does the same thing when not going through BI. So I would have to guess its a UI issue. Anyone else experience the same?

Again you guys are also only see this in the UI right? I have noticed no problem with Mobile apps.

I don't use the UI to watch streams either so it could have been there before, but I never saw it before the update either.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on January 07, 2015, 09:03:58 am
Yep, agreed i never use the UI for camera watching. It works just fine else where.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on January 07, 2015, 09:05:22 am
For shits and giggles i tested out the same camera that cuts out the picture through BI and set the camera up directly with Vera. Does the same thing when not going through BI. So I would have to guess its a UI issue. Anyone else experience the same?

Again you guys are also only see this in the UI right? I have noticed no problem with Mobile apps.

I don't use the UI to watch streams either so it could have been there before, but I never saw it before the update either.

no problem, with BI directly to the monitor or with either of the BI apps I have, just the UI
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 07, 2015, 09:07:30 am
For shits and giggles i tested out the same camera that cuts out the picture through BI and set the camera up directly with Vera. Does the same thing when not going through BI. So I would have to guess its a UI issue. Anyone else experience the same?

Again you guys are also only see this in the UI right? I have noticed no problem with Mobile apps.

I don't use the UI to watch streams either so it could have been there before, but I never saw it before the update either.

no problem, with BI directly to the monitor or with either of the BI apps I have, just the UI

Yea I ment with a VERA app? I use Imperihome and don't see a problem.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: undertoe on January 07, 2015, 09:10:06 am
You would think Vera would make a nice responsive clean UI for their product. The new UI totally blows. If they did that and somehow came up with 3rd party apps not taking forever to load the device data it would be one hell of a system.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on January 07, 2015, 11:15:46 am
For shits and giggles i tested out the same camera that cuts out the picture through BI and set the camera up directly with Vera. Does the same thing when not going through BI. So I would have to guess its a UI issue. Anyone else experience the same?

Again you guys are also only see this in the UI right? I have noticed no problem with Mobile apps.

I don't use the UI to watch streams either so it could have been there before, but I never saw it before the update either.

no problem, with BI directly to the monitor or with either of the BI apps I have, just the UI

Yea I ment with a VERA app? I use Imperihome and don't see a problem.

Same here. But I can confirm that this wasn't a problem in U-15 before. I don't use that much, but it does make me fear what else might be broken...
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 07, 2015, 12:16:56 pm
For shits and giggles i tested out the same camera that cuts out the picture through BI and set the camera up directly with Vera. Does the same thing when not going through BI. So I would have to guess its a UI issue. Anyone else experience the same?

Again you guys are also only see this in the UI right? I have noticed no problem with Mobile apps.

I don't use the UI to watch streams either so it could have been there before, but I never saw it before the update either.

no problem, with BI directly to the monitor or with either of the BI apps I have, just the UI

Yea I ment with a VERA app? I use Imperihome and don't see a problem.

Same here. But I can confirm that this wasn't a problem in U-15 before. I don't use that much, but it does make me fear what else might be broken...

I can't be a BlueIris problem, undertoe has added the camera direct without going threw BlueIris and it has the same problem. Maybe try that for your self also. If the camera still acts up bot useing the BI plugin but going directly from camera to UI then I don't see how it could be a BI issue.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on January 09, 2015, 12:26:03 pm
another weird issue.

If I lose connection (like unplug/plug back in), the camera comes up fine again both in BI and in Vera... but I also get this weird latent device.  I can delete it... and all works fine.  But if I unplug again... it comes back.  see attach

it is definitely the camera that was rebooted... as it has the correct IP in settings.  Another thing to note is that I did delete the vistacam plugin, but clearly something is still there.

EDIT:  I checked installed apps, and noticed  a "wintopIPcam" plugin installed.  Don't remember that.  I deleted the new IP camera device, and the app disappeared. 

Not a huge deal... but I really don't want to go through this every time I lose power (or move a camera, etc).
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 09, 2015, 02:10:38 pm
Wow,
I still have some Foscams and they need to be unplugged and re-plugged what seems like daily if you want them to work. LOL

Anyways I haven't seen that yet.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: CudaNet on January 09, 2015, 02:35:23 pm
Anyone upgraded to BI 4.0 ? I'm planning on installing it side-by-side w/ 3 and wanted to see if I should even waste my time.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 09, 2015, 02:39:08 pm
Anyone upgraded to BI 4.0 ? I'm planning on installing it side-by-side w/ 3 and wanted to see if I should even waste my time.

Sorry, but you should read. We have been talking about 4 for the last 5 or 6 pages of this thread.

Answer tho.... You good to go and it will be an easy quick upgrade altho there seems to be a few errors poping up (read) but so far I don't see how they are related to 4.

EDIT: Reading start on page 19 post #283 is where we first talk about 4
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: CudaNet on January 09, 2015, 03:01:47 pm
So it seems, I didn't look back far enough. With this many pages this plugin deserves it's own forum in programming, that way we can discuss 4.0 in it's own thread.

Anyone upgraded to BI 4.0 ? I'm planning on installing it side-by-side w/ 3 and wanted to see if I should even waste my time.

Sorry, but you should read. We have been talking about 4 for the last 5 or 6 pages of this thread.

Answer tho.... You good to go and it will be an easy quick upgrade altho there seems to be a few errors poping up (read) but so far I don't see how they are related to 4.

EDIT: Reading start on page 19 post #283 is where we first talk about 4
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 09, 2015, 03:10:08 pm
So it seems, I didn't look back far enough. With this many pages this plugin deserves it's own forum in programming, that way we can discuss 4.0 in it's own thread.

You are right that would be a nice addition.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Mitch on January 10, 2015, 10:53:33 pm
I've successfully added my camera's on a Vera Edge.

However, the "Current status" on the UI7 dashboard shows "3 devices are no longer connected".  When I go to the Devices in the List view all the camera's show "Can't Detect Device".

Everything appears fine though and viewing the cameras works.

Is there something that I need to do to fix this?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 11, 2015, 02:56:25 am
Well im now haveing that loss of picture, password user error problem everywhere now.
Imperihome now refreshes like 3 to 4 times then throws an error and doesn't display. If you wait 30 sec. Then it works again for a few secs again.
I also noticed when this happens if i try and open the blueiris official app i cant login and i get a "user limit: try again later" error. If i wait 30 secs it works and i can watch live for infinite time in the official. But if i watch in vera ui or imperihome home problem returns.
Sounds like vera is refreshing loging in excessively and BI is locking it out for 30secs and it repeats.

I have emailed BI support on this.

Is this what u guys are seeing to or is it just me?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on January 11, 2015, 08:36:07 am
Well im now haveing that loss of picture, password user error problem everywhere now.
Imperihome now refreshes like 3 to 4 times then throws an error and doesn't display. If you wait 30 sec. Then it works again for a few secs again.
I also noticed when this happens if i try and open the blueiris official app i cant login and i get a "user limit: try again later" error. If i wait 30 secs it works and i can watch live for infinite time in the official. But if i watch in vera ui or imperihome home problem returns.
Sounds like vera is refreshing loging in excessively and BI is locking it out for 30secs and it repeats.

I have emailed BI support on this.

Is this what u guys are seeing to or is it just me?

I have not noticed the problem in ImperiHome and the front door camera is up 24x7 on all three ImperiHome tablets. The only time I've seen it so far is in the UI on Vera ... now that I'm aware of it I'm paying attention and its highly intermittent there ... some days it doesn't happen when I look, others it happens every few minutes. But since ImperiHome is essentially repeating the Vera UI it ought to be there ... probably I'm just not looking when it happens :)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on January 11, 2015, 12:15:56 pm
Well im now haveing that loss of picture, password user error problem everywhere now.
Imperihome now refreshes like 3 to 4 times then throws an error and doesn't display. If you wait 30 sec. Then it works again for a few secs again.
I also noticed when this happens if i try and open the blueiris official app i cant login and i get a "user limit: try again later" error. If i wait 30 secs it works and i can watch live for infinite time in the official. But if i watch in vera ui or imperihome home problem returns.
Sounds like vera is refreshing loging in excessively and BI is locking it out for 30secs and it repeats.

I have emailed BI support on this.

Is this what u guys are seeing to or is it just me?

I have not noticed the problem in ImperiHome and the front door camera is up 24x7 on all three ImperiHome tablets. The only time I've seen it so far is in the UI on Vera ... now that I'm aware of it I'm paying attention and its highly intermittent there ... some days it doesn't happen when I look, others it happens every few minutes. But since ImperiHome is essentially repeating the Vera UI it ought to be there ... probably I'm just not looking when it happens :)

Same
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 11, 2015, 03:11:03 pm
Well i'm getting closer to my problem. It has to do with amount of users logged in. This is related to how many cameras you have, how fast (secs) you have update set to.

In blueiris under settings, web server, bottom right your have "user limit" mine was defaulted at 99 with the arrows not going up higher.

In the blue iris logs when I run Imperihome or vera it starts refreshing each of the images and the logs so the user connections climbing which passes the limit and locks me out for a short time until connections time out and user log shows low enough logins to allow me back in. To me this is a direct connection to both problems in VERA and in APPS. But where it might differ for some people is how fast of an update your using and how many cameras you watching. If your Only streaming one camera and it's set to update every few secs vs. say continuous this might not might trip the user limit.

The Blueiris APP seems to be smarter when you login it counts as one and thats it. VERA seems to login get a snapshot, then keep repeating and blueiris server takes a min. to see it log out.

I don't know if this something new in BI4 or why I never ran into this before, but I'm currently working with them on this. Not sure if this is only a problem on their side as the way VERA logs in doesn't seem to be efficient. 

EDIT: I have dropped down to only display 6 cameras in ImperiHome and Changed the image refresh rate of each from continuous to 2 secs. and my problem has went away. I have not attempted to make adjustments in Vera's UI.

EDIT: 6 cameras and 1 sec also seems to be ok so far. Must be a fine line of how many cameras and not running "continuous" on to many at a time.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 12, 2015, 06:23:11 pm
Well talking to BI support, they didn't like the use of "anonymous" and thought that could be part of the problem. I know this BI Plugin allows user login settings to be used, so I created a VERA only user name and password, then following the directions in Undertoes original install video I added the user and password to each camera in Vera. That seems to be working well. I then turned off the allowed use of "anonymous" in the BI server and all is good in VERA.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on January 12, 2015, 06:32:32 pm
Well talking to BI support, they didn't like the use of "anonymous" and thought that could be part of the problem. I know this BI app allows user login settings to be used, so I created a VERA only user name and password, then following the directions in Undertoes original install video I added the user and password to each camera in Vera. That seems to be working well. I then turned off the allowed use of "anonymous" in the BI server and all is good in VERA.

Problem I have now is my Imperihome doesn't work without "anonymous". I thought it would use the same VERA, but I can see it's not using the login. I'm going to post over there but also thought I would ask here too.

I just did some checking after your post. I currently have 5 cameras running and all have a username/password set and each corresponding camera config in BI has this corresponding username/password. I have three access users defined in BI, one for remote/offnet, one for local net and "anonymous"

i have access in ImperiHme but I don't recall ever having to set the username/.password for BI and I don't see it in looking now.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 12, 2015, 06:37:14 pm
Well talking to BI support, they didn't like the use of "anonymous" and thought that could be part of the problem. I know this BI app allows user login settings to be used, so I created a VERA only user name and password, then following the directions in Undertoes original install video I added the user and password to each camera in Vera. That seems to be working well. I then turned off the allowed use of "anonymous" in the BI server and all is good in VERA.

Problem I have now is my Imperihome doesn't work without "anonymous". I thought it would use the same VERA, but I can see it's not using the login. I'm going to post over there but also thought I would ask here too.

I just did some checking after your post. I currently have 5 cameras running and all have a username/password set and each corresponding camera config in BI has this corresponding username/password. I have three access users defined in BI, one for remote/offnet, one for local net and "anonymous"

i have access in ImperiHme but I don't recall ever having to set the username/.password for BI and I don't see it in looking now.

I actually found my problem was I hadn't reboot each. Imperihome is now logging in using my defined user and password with VERA.

I have disabled "anonymous" account in BI now so anything trying to use ti will be denied access which is what was happening before the restart. I have went back to upping the refresh rates now trying to see if the same problem as before returns.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: usafmjscott on January 16, 2015, 03:51:18 am
I've successfully added my camera's on a Vera Edge.

However, the "Current status" on the UI7 dashboard shows "3 devices are no longer connected".  When I go to the Devices in the List view all the camera's show "Can't Detect Device".

Everything appears fine though and viewing the cameras works.

Is there something that I need to do to fix this?

Hi Mitch / All,

I have the same issue with my VeraEdge as well.  AFAIK it has nothing to do with Blue Iris - as this happens when I used the FOSCAM Plug-in (Thanks Aaron!) before I started using Blue Iris.

There is some issue on the VeraEdge with this error message coming up (specific to cameras) - however - everything is working fine with the actual cameras.  See attached.   
I found another post somewhere with the following info - works ok for now!

"MCV support suggested a change to the following parameter: CommFailure

Try setting CommFailure to "0" :-)"
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: garrettwp on January 16, 2015, 06:13:59 am
It is most likely due to this issue which the plugins would need to implement. So it is a plugin issue and not an issue with the camera implementation of vera.

http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=27420.0

- Garrett

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on January 16, 2015, 12:43:20 pm
Just FYI.  Blue Iris pushed an update today (recently).  I downloaded... will report back if I see any changes via plugin.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 16, 2015, 12:48:19 pm
Just FYI.  Blue Iris pushed an update today (recently).  I downloaded... will report back if I see any changes via plugin.

This has nothing to do with the BlueIris server software or with the Phone Apps by BlueIris.

This is a BlueIris (Vera) Plugin problem with UI7.

Maybe I miss understood you but I have not seen that Undertoe the creator has released an update in the Vera servers since Aug. 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: ServiceXp on January 16, 2015, 12:57:01 pm
After reading through many pages on the subject,  I believe an IP camera setup utilizing Blue Iris (and the BI Plug-In) is the way to go.  So I think I would end up with a 4 HD camera system to fit my desires, but have a couple of questions on getting started.

1) It seems like BI needs a pretty hefty amount of computer power. What do you guys recommend (keeping in mind electricity is very expensive where I live)? (having to keep the computer running all the time)

2) Do you guys utilize any power management system/scheme on your BI computer?

3) Will wireless camera's work reliably and are they safe?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: osmosis on January 16, 2015, 01:06:41 pm
Just FYI.  Blue Iris pushed an update today (recently).  I downloaded... will report back if I see any changes via plugin.

I see version .6 from August 22 2014 as the latest? Also. Yesterday I installed BI for the first time with a QSee 528 8 channel and 4 foscams.  The BI plugin worked first time and getting all 12 cameras working in UI7 took less than an hour. I then added all the cameras to Homewave and it works fine.  Previously I used ipcam viewer and the cameras were not integrated into Vera. I will purchase BI as its kinda nice to have everything in one interface - homewave for once. I have not experimented with camera activity to control anything yet.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on January 16, 2015, 01:08:17 pm
I just purchased a Lenovo TS140 Xeon X3-1225 server (desktop form factor) for Blue Iris. They go on sale every now and then. I picked one up for $270 with 4GB but no HD or OS. Idling, these only take 17W and with 3 or 4 HD's they use less than 100W when the drives are active. The PSU is rated 280W and built to run 24/7/365. This puppy is also whisper quiet. There is also an I3 version which goes on sale around 200 regularly and should be able to handle 4 HD cameras. I wanted the Xeon as it's more powerful and I have about 10 cameras.



Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 16, 2015, 01:14:06 pm
1) It seems like BI needs a pretty hefty amount of computer power. What do you guys recommend (keeping in mind electricity is very expensive where I live)? (having to keep the computer running all the time)
I already run a full desktop computer for PLEX media server and other things. So I guess this isn't an issue for me. 4 Cameras is pretty small, you can get away with a small computer, just keep heat in mind with it running all the time. You can transfer you Blue Iris liscense to any computer. I would test what you have even a laptop or anything and see where you at. BI has a built in CPU reading or you could also use task manger to see some of the basics. Probley any fast dual core will do the trick. There is also "DIRECT to DISC" that will help you CPU out.

2) Do you guys utilize any power management system/scheme on your BI computer?
Has to me on a running to record and access. You can turn screen off.

3) Will wireless camera's work reliably and are they safe?
Maybe it's just me but I am going to say NO. I'm sure some may have gotten it to work, but I had nothing but problems and less FPS on wireless vs. wired. plus you need power anyways so any way you look at it you need wires. I now have POE Hikvisions that run around 80 to 130.00 depending on where you find them. They are 3MP and one run of CAT5e will take care of everything.

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: ServiceXp on January 16, 2015, 01:32:38 pm
Thanks for the information guys.

@integlikewhoa
  So I could run one cat5 to the attic and run 4 of the POE Hikvisions off that one line? (One line to the attic >> to a switch >> out to the 4 camera's?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: TC1 on January 16, 2015, 01:44:30 pm
Question regarding licensing, I plan on having an ESX server and running multiple VMs on it to save electricity costs. Will BI install/work on a VM?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: osmosis on January 16, 2015, 02:05:14 pm
Thanks for the information guys.

@integlikewhoa
  So I could run one cat5 to the attic and run 4 of the POE Hikvisions off that one line? (One line to the attic >> to a switch >> out to the 4 camera's?

Yes, you could either use a switch that supplies POE or 4 POE injectors on the camera side of the switch. One POE injector before the switch won't supply the cameras, even if the switch passed the power through, which it probably would not.  I would just run separate runs of cat 6 as its usually no more of a PITA to run more than one once you figure out the best route.
     And while running them, a few extras never hurts for the future. A few years ago I had to go from a basement 2 floors below, to the attic two floors above grade.  I went from the lower basement into the upper basement into the garage wall sill. In the wall and out the top header, across,the garage attic into the exterior wall of a bathroom and from the attic, I found the area above that and pulled them into the attic.  I ran a pull string first.  I almost only ran the 4 wires I needed.  But I pulled 8 cat 6 and 6 RG6 and 2 alarm siren wires because I never wanted to have to do that again.  Glad I ran the extras as I used some of them a month later.  Run more than you initially need.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on January 16, 2015, 02:36:18 pm
Just FYI.  Blue Iris pushed an update today (recently).  I downloaded... will report back if I see any changes via plugin.

This has nothing to do with the BlueIris server software or with the Phone Apps by BlueIris.

This is a BlueIris (Vera) Plugin problem with UI7.

Maybe I miss understood you but I have not seen that Undertoe the creator has released an update in the Vera servers since Aug.

Yep.  all i was letting you all know is that when i started BI (the app, not the plugin) today after a reboot, i got a notification there was an update to v4.  I installed it... apparently fixed some bugs.  Haven't seen any issues with the app, or via the plugin either thus far.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 16, 2015, 04:29:46 pm
Just FYI.  Blue Iris pushed an update today (recently).  I downloaded... will report back if I see any changes via plugin.

This has nothing to do with the BlueIris server software or with the Phone Apps by BlueIris.

This is a BlueIris (Vera) Plugin problem with UI7.

Maybe I miss understood you but I have not seen that Undertoe the creator has released an update in the Vera servers since Aug.

Yep.  all i was letting you all know is that when i started BI (the app, not the plugin) today after a reboot, i got a notification there was an update to v4.  I installed it... apparently fixed some bugs.  Haven't seen any issues with the app, or via the plugin either thus far.

By app you mean apple or andriod? And neither are on v4. What is on version 4 is the server software that runs on your computer. Version 4 has been out for almost a month and has been talked about starting a few pages back. Its not a free upgrade from version 3.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: ServiceXp on January 16, 2015, 06:58:21 pm
Thanks for the information guys.

@integlikewhoa
  So I could run one cat5 to the attic and run 4 of the POE Hikvisions off that one line? (One line to the attic >> to a switch >> out to the 4 camera's?

Yes, you could either use a switch that supplies POE or 4 POE injectors on the camera side of the switch. One POE injector before the switch won't supply the cameras, even if the switch passed the power through, which it probably would not.  I would just run separate runs of cat 6 as its usually no more of a PITA to run more than one once you figure out the best route.
     And while running them, a few extras never hurts for the future. A few years ago I had to go from a basement 2 floors below, to the attic two floors above grade.  I went from the lower basement into the upper basement into the garage wall sill. In the wall and out the top header, across,the garage attic into the exterior wall of a bathroom and from the attic, I found the area above that and pulled them into the attic.  I ran a pull string first.  I almost only ran the 4 wires I needed.  But I pulled 8 cat 6 and 6 RG6 and 2 alarm siren wires because I never wanted to have to do that again.  Glad I ran the extras as I used some of them a month later.  Run more than you initially need.

 I thought I posted a response... Here goes again..

 That is good news, as there is no way I want to run another cat5 line to the attic (it was a nightmare the first time).

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 16, 2015, 08:38:39 pm
Thanks for the information guys.

@integlikewhoa
 One line to the attic >> to a switch >> out to the 4 camera's?

Yes this would work with a poe 4 port switch or a regular switch and a 4 port power injector after the switch.

EDIT: only probem might might be is if your attic is like mine it gets way to hot and dusty to be a good environment for a switch.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: osmosis on January 16, 2015, 09:33:33 pm
Thanks for the information guys.

@integlikewhoa
 One line to the attic >> to a switch >> out to the 4 camera's?

Yes this would work with a poe 4 port switch or a regular switch and a 4 port power injector after the switch.

EDIT: only probem might might be is if your attic is like mine it gets way to hot and dusty to be a good environment for a switch.

That's a great point, It's winter so I forgot how hot attics get. If its 100 outside the attic can get to 130-140+ That would severely impact a switch over time and may be above its operating limits.  Especially a POE switch generating heat from the power distribution.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on January 21, 2015, 12:16:37 pm
Well talking to BI support, they didn't like the use of "anonymous" and thought that could be part of the problem. I know this BI app allows user login settings to be used, so I created a VERA only user name and password, then following the directions in Undertoes original install video I added the user and password to each camera in Vera. That seems to be working well. I then turned off the allowed use of "anonymous" in the BI server and all is good in VERA.

Problem I have now is my Imperihome doesn't work without "anonymous". I thought it would use the same VERA, but I can see it's not using the login. I'm going to post over there but also thought I would ask here too.

I just did some checking after your post. I currently have 5 cameras running and all have a username/password set and each corresponding camera config in BI has this corresponding username/password. I have three access users defined in BI, one for remote/offnet, one for local net and "anonymous"

i have access in ImperiHme but I don't recall ever having to set the username/.password for BI and I don't see it in looking now.

I actually found my problem was I hadn't reboot each. Imperihome is now logging in using my defined user and password with VERA.

I have disabled "anonymous" account in BI now so anything trying to use ti will be denied access which is what was happening before the restart. I have went back to upping the refresh rates now trying to see if the same problem as before returns.

@integlikewhoa - did the random problem of the video cutting out within the vera U15 device go away when you did this? 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 21, 2015, 02:23:51 pm
Well talking to BI support, they didn't like the use of "anonymous" and thought that could be part of the problem. I know this BI app allows user login settings to be used, so I created a VERA only user name and password, then following the directions in Undertoes original install video I added the user and password to each camera in Vera. That seems to be working well. I then turned off the allowed use of "anonymous" in the BI server and all is good in VERA.

Problem I have now is my Imperihome doesn't work without "anonymous". I thought it would use the same VERA, but I can see it's not using the login. I'm going to post over there but also thought I would ask here too.

I just did some checking after your post. I currently have 5 cameras running and all have a username/password set and each corresponding camera config in BI has this corresponding username/password. I have three access users defined in BI, one for remote/offnet, one for local net and "anonymous"

i have access in ImperiHme but I don't recall ever having to set the username/.password for BI and I don't see it in looking now.

I actually found my problem was I hadn't reboot each. Imperihome is now logging in using my defined user and password with VERA.

I have disabled "anonymous" account in BI now so anything trying to use ti will be denied access which is what was happening before the restart. I have went back to upping the refresh rates now trying to see if the same problem as before returns.

@integlikewhoa - did the random problem of the video cutting out within the vera U15 device go away when you did this?

I used to have a white screen with user and password errror or something. Someone post a picture of it a page or two back. After setting up the user and password on each camera UI5 now works fine and it logs in as the user not anonymous which seems to fix all my problems in the UI.

In Impreihome that's a different story I have not found out how to log in as a user but rather it always logs in as an anonymous and still has a problem if I set the refresh rate to continuous.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Vandamme23 on January 22, 2015, 08:38:53 am
Has anyone got this working on a Vera Edge with UI7 running...  Can't seem to get the video...
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 22, 2015, 12:50:52 pm
Has anyone got this working on a Vera Edge with UI7 running...  Can't seem to get the video...

Yes you just need to read. But many of us have confirmed that it works including myself. Are you new to UI7? because in this case the EDGE has nothing to do with setup. UI7 on the edge is the same as UI7 on VERA 3 or VERA Lite. Install as normal. 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Vandamme23 on January 22, 2015, 02:41:38 pm
Has anyone got this working on a Vera Edge with UI7 running...  Can't seem to get the video...

Yes you just need to read. But many of us have confirmed that it works including myself. Are you new to UI7? because in this case the EDGE has nothing to do with setup. UI7 on the edge is the same as UI7 on VERA 3 or VERA Lite. Install as normal. 

I guess I'm new to both the Edge and UI7...  I have Blue Iris installed and working with my cams...  I can view the stream within my web browser, but when I install the plugin the video doesn't show within the Vera UI.  I tried changing the URLs but no luck...  Thought there might be an issue with the UI or Edge that I was not seeing...
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 22, 2015, 02:58:31 pm
I guess I'm new to both the Edge and UI7...  I have Blue Iris installed and working with my cams...  I can view the stream within my web browser, but when I install the plugin the video doesn't show within the Vera UI.  I tried changing the URLs but no luck...  Thought there might be an issue with the UI or Edge that I was not seeing...

Nope, I'm going to say you should refer to the install instructions and make sure you are using the camera short name, the right IP adress and I would also recommend using the user and password.

Have you read the instructions?
Are you in the advanced tab and adding the above info?
Are you reloading VERA and refreshing the browser?
Is the info your inputting in the advanced tab staying/saving?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Vandamme23 on January 22, 2015, 03:01:38 pm
I guess I'm new to both the Edge and UI7...  I have Blue Iris installed and working with my cams...  I can view the stream within my web browser, but when I install the plugin the video doesn't show within the Vera UI.  I tried changing the URLs but no luck...  Thought there might be an issue with the UI or Edge that I was not seeing...

Nope, I'm going to say you should refer to the install instructions and make sure you are using the camera short name, the right IP adress and I would also recommend using the user and password.

Have you read the instructions?
Are you in the advanced tab and adding the above info?
Are you reloading VERA and refreshing the browser?
Is the info your inputting in the advanced tab staying/saving?

It is working now...

Went back and checked the settings...  The CameraName was not saving on the Advanced tab...  After about the 5th or 6th try, it took and the images are coming through now...
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: crimsondr on January 23, 2015, 12:04:16 pm
Hi all,

I'm trying to setup the BI plugin on my edge.  The ip, username, password and camera name are all displaying on the advanced tab.  I restarted the vera engine several times but still no image.  Is there anyway to get more information on what the error would be?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: crimsondr on January 23, 2015, 12:12:40 pm
Hi all,

I'm trying to setup the BI plugin on my edge.  The ip, username, password and camera name are all displaying on the advanced tab.  I restarted the vera engine several times but still no image.  Is there anyway to get more information on what the error would be?

Thanks.

Well I got it to work.  I had authentication required for all connections and secure only checked.  I unchecked secure only and now I am getting an image in vera.  Is there a way to configure the BI plugin to work when secure only is checked?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 23, 2015, 01:31:18 pm
Hi all,

I'm trying to setup the BI plugin on my edge.  The ip, username, password and camera name are all displaying on the advanced tab.  I restarted the vera engine several times but still no image.  Is there anyway to get more information on what the error would be?

Thanks.

Well I got it to work.  I had authentication required for all connections and secure only checked.  I unchecked secure only and now I am getting an image in vera.  Is there a way to configure the BI plugin to work when secure only is checked?

I would also like the same info, I thought using the user and password would take of these issues but there is something else going on.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: farfromuman on January 23, 2015, 02:02:17 pm
Word of caution, when I unchecked the "secure only" box I was able to view cameras remotely (non LAN) without authentication in Chrome, I just pressed the login button without any credentials - as soon as I check the box back it does not allow this to happen.  IE did not allow this. 

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 23, 2015, 02:10:31 pm
Word of caution, when I unchecked the "secure only" box I was able to view cameras remotely (non LAN) without authentication in Chrome, I just pressed the login button without any credentials - as soon as I check the box back it does not allow this to happen.  IE did not allow this.

^^^^^ this is false.

What you did to make this happen is change the drop down box next to the "secure only" check box. Which is the Authentication box. That will allow you to access the cameras with no user or password either all the time, only on LAN or never.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: crimsondr on January 23, 2015, 02:50:28 pm
Hi all,

I'm trying to setup the BI plugin on my edge.  The ip, username, password and camera name are all displaying on the advanced tab.  I restarted the vera engine several times but still no image.  Is there anyway to get more information on what the error would be?

Thanks.

Well I got it to work.  I had authentication required for all connections and secure only checked.  I unchecked secure only and now I am getting an image in vera.  Is there a way to configure the BI plugin to work when secure only is checked?

I would also like the same info, I thought using the user and password would take of these issues but there is something else going on.

Since the BI mobile apps can login when secure only is checked, the BI plugin for Vera should be able to do something similar.  We just need to convince someone to implement it  ;D
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: farfromuman on January 23, 2015, 03:03:36 pm
Word of caution, when I unchecked the "secure only" box I was able to view cameras remotely (non LAN) without authentication in Chrome, I just pressed the login button without any credentials - as soon as I check the box back it does not allow this to happen.  IE did not allow this.

^^^^^ this is false.

What you did to make this happen is change the drop down box next to the "secure only" check box. Which is the Authentication box. That will allow you to access the cameras with no user or password either all the time, only on LAN or never.

I have Authentication set to "Non-LAN only" I did not change this part.  The only change during my testing was the "Secure only" box, with this box unchecked Chrome still requested authentication and providing a blank login allowed access.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 23, 2015, 03:20:31 pm
Testing currently and doesn't let me in on chrome or IE, nor should a browser matter.

What you are describing is the anonymous login and that will happen only on your local LAN with the way you currently have you settings. Test again and report back.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: farfromuman on January 23, 2015, 03:39:23 pm
Testing currently and doesn't let me in on chrome or IE, nor should a browser matter.

What you are describing is the anonymous login and that will happen only on your local LAN with the way you currently have you settings. Test again and report back.

I did some more testing on another computer with a new Chrome install, this one worked correctly.  On my main work computer Chrome somehow allows the login bypass even after clearing all the history/cookies when the "Secure only" box is unchecked and denies when the box is checked. 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 23, 2015, 03:46:45 pm
Testing currently and doesn't let me in on chrome or IE, nor should a browser matter.

What you are describing is the anonymous login and that will happen only on your local LAN with the way you currently have you settings. Test again and report back.

I did some more testing on another computer with a new Chrome install, this one worked correctly.  On my main work computer Chrome somehow allows the login bypass even after clearing all the history/cookies when the "Secure only" box is unchecked and denies when the box is checked.

Anyways, there is still an issue. And it would be nice if the plugin was able to use a secure login like the app does.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: crimsondr on January 24, 2015, 07:58:47 pm
After installing the blue iris plugin my edge reboots several times daily. Nothing else has changed except for adding two blue iris cameras.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: fredthetiredman on January 29, 2015, 02:08:41 pm
Thanks for making plug in...

For whatever reason I can not make plugin work.... I guess i dont understand the directions?!?.... I can get the BI Cam #xxx.....but i still cannot recieve video  URL invalid?

So my set up is BI running 10 cams...Vera has 3 of them.... Do you have a better/cleaner step by step for Dummys?


Thank you
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 30, 2015, 03:12:15 pm
Thanks for making plug in...

For whatever reason I can not make plugin work.... I guess i dont understand the directions?!?.... I can get the BI Cam #xxx.....but i still cannot recieve video  URL invalid?

So my set up is BI running 10 cams...Vera has 3 of them.... Do you have a better/cleaner step by step for Dummys?


Thank you

Did you watch the video?
Title: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: MrnegPants on January 31, 2015, 03:41:34 pm
DirectStreamingURL
and
URL
I change them it says it says change property sent.
i exit it works at first then it fails and I check and it is changed back to the initial setting that I do not want .
for example /mjpg/index/video.mjpg is default setting when I add a camera I change it to /mjpg/cam1/video.mjpg  and it works for a few seconds then it changes back.
What am i missing here ?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on January 31, 2015, 03:41:58 pm
@integlikewhoa (et.al.)...

I'm sorry if I'm totally missing something, as I'm not sure the problem is what you are experiencing.  Would love to run It by you again, just to see if there is a fix, or if i'm just a dork. Again, this didn't start happening until BI v4.0 (the app, not the plugin).  Here's my situation:

- running BIv4, all my cameras work great.  (all of my cameras have usernames/passwords)
- plugin works; all cameras show up in Vera3 (U15) as devices. I have the same username/password setup in the 'settings' tab of the devices)
- On my Imperihome tablets in my house (wall mounted), all cameras show up perfectly.
- On my Grasshopper phone app, all cameras show up perfectly, on LAN and WAN

The issue is when I look at the camera view from within the Vera UI, it shows for a small time (like 20 seconds), then the image disappears and I get the filmstrip icon.    Go back later and it works again.  Same issue on all cameras. 

Again, sorry to be redundant based on past posts, but are you guys still seeing this as well?

thanks.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: garrettwp on January 31, 2015, 03:53:12 pm
This is a bug in vera which has been around for some time. There is no fix or workaround. MCV would need to fix this, which I doubt they will for UI5.

- Garrett

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on January 31, 2015, 03:56:56 pm
Test Setup A Vera 3 with current UI7
BI software on WHS2011 server still running 3.x version (I upgraded to 4 but that's going on the new server)
BI plugin v0.6 running all 10 of my camera's (7 640x480 / 3 720P) on above Vera
IE10 remote access via home.getvera.com login from a Win 7 64bit Enterprise I7 desktop.

Test Scenario
I've been watching my dogs on one the 640x480 cams for the last 5 minutes with no issues.
Watched one of my 720P cams for 5 minutes with no issues.

Test Setup B Vera 3 with current UI5
BI software on WHS2011 server still running 3.x version (I upgraded to 4 but that's going on the new server)
BI plugin v0.6 running 3 of my 10 camera's (2 640x480 / 1 720P) on above Vera
IE10 remote access via cp.mios.com login from a Win 7 64bit Enterprise I7 desktop.

Test Scenario
I've been watching one the 640x480 cams for the last 2 minutes with no issues.
Watched my 720P cam for 2 minutes with no issues.

The BI setup is allowing anon access at this time as it's behind a firewall and not accessible from outside. I access the camera's via Vera.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on January 31, 2015, 04:13:06 pm
@BOFH - that makes sense, as it worked fine when I was running BI software version 3.x.  this only started when I upgraded to v4.

@garrettwp, are you saying that the bug is in vera, but was only exposed when I upgrade the BI software (as it worked before)? 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on January 31, 2015, 04:24:28 pm
Guess I'm going to keep my existing WHS2011 server running for now until this gets sorted. It's running a bit high CPU utilization but still responsive enough.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 01, 2015, 10:23:08 am
@integlikewhoa (et.al.)...

I'm sorry if I'm totally missing something, as I'm not sure the problem is what you are experiencing.  Would love to run It by you again, just to see if there is a fix, or if i'm just a dork. Again, this didn't start happening until BI v4.0 (the app, not the plugin).  Here's my situation:

- running BIv4, all my cameras work great.  (all of my cameras have usernames/passwords)
- plugin works; all cameras show up in Vera3 (U15) as devices. I have the same username/password setup in the 'settings' tab of the devices)
- On my Imperihome tablets in my house (wall mounted), all cameras show up perfectly.
- On my Grasshopper phone app, all cameras show up perfectly, on LAN and WAN

The issue is when I look at the camera view from within the Vera UI, it shows for a small time (like 20 seconds), then the image disappears and I get the filmstrip icon.    Go back later and it works again.  Same issue on all cameras. 

Again, sorry to be redundant based on past posts, but are you guys still seeing this as well?

thanks.

I had this issue before the 4.0 upgrade and after. The only thing that seemed to solve this for me was creating a new blueiris account for VERA and using the user and password (which it sounds like your already doing). Can you verify in the blueiris logs that when your viewing the cameras from Vera UI that its not logged in as anonymous? 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on February 01, 2015, 03:50:37 pm
I had this issue before the 4.0 upgrade and after. The only thing that seemed to solve this for me was creating a new blueiris account for VERA and using the user and password (which it sounds like your already doing). Can you verify in the blueiris logs that when your viewing the cameras from Vera UI that its not logged in as anonymous?

OK... that helps, but now I think i'm more confused.  Sorry for the randomness of this reply, as i'm debugging in real time and putting down here as I go.

It is logging in as anonymous.  So first I just tried deleting that user, and then I couldn't see anything from Vera dashboard.

So then I went in to see about passwords.  Here's where I got confused.  First... I realized there is also a password setting in the 'settings' tab of the device.  I have these set to the camera password , but only on some of my cameras, the others are blank, and yet the camera still works.  (same one I use to access the cameras directly via a web browser to make hardware changes).  Question #1... do I need to do that, since the BI app is managing those passwords?

Then I realize that there is another username/password setup in the advanced tabs. BUT, I only see this in some of my camera devices.  I realize that these fields ONLY show up in the advance tab IF I have inputted the username and password in the settings tab! (and they mirror each other).

So, I went in to each of my 5 cameras, and made sure the username/password were set to the BI username/password on both the settings and advanced tabs.   Testing this ends up with the same issue... in Vera dashboard image disappears after a short time. BI logs show that it's still logging in as anonymous.  THAT really has me confused. 

So then I went back in, and turn off Anonymous again, and of course, no camera images show up in Vera dash. (tried reloading a few times just to make sure).  So even if I have the right username/password setup in all tabs off all camera devices, unless anonymous is enabled, it won't work. 

Something to note... enabling anonymous shows me the following in the BI Log:
Object:  Server
Message:  Started on port 81

Also, the #  (I assume that's connections) for anonymous is currently at 3617

So i'm not sure what to try next... but hoping this helps to debug a bit. 

@integlikewhoa, can you give me bit more on what you did?  is it the following:

1.  In vera, added a new user/password for BI
2.  In BI in users tab, added same new user/password
3.  Back in Vera, on each device, put the user/password in both settings and advanced tabs?
4.  Anonymous is ON or OFF in BI?  I found (like you) that turning it off also effects Imperihome, which I can't have!!!
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 02, 2015, 12:32:08 am
I had this issue before the 4.0 upgrade and after. The only thing that seemed to solve this for me was creating a new blueiris account for VERA and using the user and password (which it sounds like your already doing). Can you verify in the blueiris logs that when your viewing the cameras from Vera UI that its not logged in as anonymous?

OK... that helps, but now I think i'm more confused.  Sorry for the randomness of this reply, as i'm debugging in real time and putting down here as I go.

It is logging in as anonymous.  So first I just tried deleting that user, and then I couldn't see anything from Vera dashboard.

So then I went in to see about passwords.  Here's where I got confused.  First... I realized there is also a password setting in the 'settings' tab of the device.  I have these set to the camera password , but only on some of my cameras, the others are blank, and yet the camera still works.  (same one I use to access the cameras directly via a web browser to make hardware changes).  Question #1... do I need to do that, since the BI app is managing those passwords?

Then I realize that there is another username/password setup in the advanced tabs. BUT, I only see this in some of my camera devices.  I realize that these fields ONLY show up in the advance tab IF I have inputted the username and password in the settings tab! (and they mirror each other).

So, I went in to each of my 5 cameras, and made sure the username/password were set to the BI username/password on both the settings and advanced tabs.   Testing this ends up with the same issue... in Vera dashboard image disappears after a short time. BI logs show that it's still logging in as anonymous.  THAT really has me confused. 

So then I went back in, and turn off Anonymous again, and of course, no camera images show up in Vera dash. (tried reloading a few times just to make sure).  So even if I have the right username/password setup in all tabs off all camera devices, unless anonymous is enabled, it won't work. 

Something to note... enabling anonymous shows me the following in the BI Log:
Object:  Server
Message:  Started on port 81

Also, the #  (I assume that's connections) for anonymous is currently at 3617

So i'm not sure what to try next... but hoping this helps to debug a bit. 

@integlikewhoa, can you give me bit more on what you did?  is it the following:

1.  In vera, added a new user/password for BI
2.  In BI in users tab, added same new user/password
3.  Back in Vera, on each device, put the user/password in both settings and advanced tabs?
4.  Anonymous is ON or OFF in BI?  I found (like you) that turning it off also effects Imperihome, which I can't have!!!


Your steps above are correct on what I have done. And #4 I have attached a picture. I also need anonymous on for Imperihome as I have not figuired out how to get that to login under a user vs. anonymous. But in VERA on the plugin while you watching the video you should see in the Blueiris server log that your logged in as the user and password you assigned. Not under anonymous if done correctly. That was my problem before. It was also login in as anonymous. Another big thing I changed is in the picture on the right is the "USER LIMIT" since it seems to login in repeatably and takes time to sign out i think my problem was the server blocking it after to many requests going at once.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on February 04, 2015, 02:50:35 pm
@integlikewhoa ... cannot figure out why this did not work.  I've attached some relevant screen shots to see if i'm doing something wrong. 

it still logs into BI as anonymous, even though every camera has the new username/password set to match the "VeraCamera" username/password in BI.

Is this maybe a plugin issue?

Also, from your screenshot, I don't see where you changed user limit?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 04, 2015, 03:23:31 pm
@integlikewhoa ... cannot figure out why this did not work.  I've attached some relevant screen shots to see if i'm doing something wrong. 

it still logs into BI as anonymous, even though every camera has the new username/password set to match the "VeraCamera" username/password in BI.

Is this maybe a plugin issue?

Also, from your screenshot, I don't see where you changed user limit?

Sorry, I just saw I only posted one of the 2 pictures and the other had the user limit. I'll try and repost here shortly.

Your screen shots all look like mine. You anonymous login is when your using vera's web UI to view?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on February 04, 2015, 04:39:16 pm
Yep... when looking at camera view from within U15.  in fact... the anonymous login of IP 192.168.1.15 is the vera. 

I changed the user limit to 99999, thinking that would at least help the anonymous login, but the image in the device still times out after ~10 seconds.

EDIT:  Hey Hey... I had "secure only" and "allow directory listing" checked.... just noticed you did not.  Unclicking those, and now it logs in as the correct username and not anonymous!!!!!

Yes!  thanks for the help!!!@
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 04, 2015, 05:03:31 pm
Yep... when looking at camera view from within U15.  in fact... the anonymous login of IP 192.168.1.15 is the vera. 

I changed the user limit to 99999, thinking that would at least help the anonymous login, but the image in the device still times out after ~10 seconds.

EDIT:  Hey Hey... I had "secure only" and "allow directory listing" checked.... just noticed you did not.  Unclicking those, and now it logs in as the correct username and not anonymous!!!!!

Yes!  thanks for the help!!!@

Here is my view in BI under status then connections. It shows my local VERA IP and the camera I'm watching and the user its logged in under.

Ok so I just found out some more facts.

I also have a VERA EDGE I have been sitting on and currently testing with. I set the cameras up in there also and swapped out my Imperihome cameras to use the EDGE and ui7 instead of the Lite and UI5 which is what I been using as my daily. Well right now I see Imprihome is no longer login as anonymous when I view cameras threw the EDGE and UI7. So more testing needs to be done, but I'm about to check off Secure only (which in theory should work now).
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 04, 2015, 05:11:40 pm
Ok after a quick test I found the following information.

With "secure only" checked something changes and now Imprihome is switched to anonymous. During this time I can leave it check and all works fine as long as the drop down for authentication is set to "Non-LAN only" or "NO". But since the secure only is checked I can't have authentication for all connections.

But with the "secure only" not checked everything now logs in as my "VERA" User and all is working.

So currently that's what I'm gonna roll with.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on February 04, 2015, 05:19:42 pm
Interesting.  Intuition would say that you would likely want secure-only checked (ON) for Non-lan... which would leave it off for local net. 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 04, 2015, 05:35:05 pm
Interesting.  Intuition would say that you would likely want secure-only checked (ON) for Non-lan... which would leave it off for local net.

Well I'm currently looking into what "Secure Only" actually does. My assumption has me to believe it's using some detailed encryption that is used between only the Vera app and the server.

What I'm currently using is the drop down box that has Authentication set  "All Connections" which means anonymous will not work and both local and remote is going to require a valid user and password.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on February 04, 2015, 05:46:29 pm
Interesting.  Intuition would say that you would likely want secure-only checked (ON) for Non-lan... which would leave it off for local net.

Well I'm currently looking into what "Secure Only" actually does. My assumption has me to believe it's using some detailed encryption that is used between only the Vera app and the server.

What I'm currently using is the drop down box that has Authentication set  "All Connections" which means anonymous will not work and both local and remote is going to require a valid user and password.

Imperihome still works after that setting?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 04, 2015, 05:56:31 pm
Imperihome still works after that setting?

Yes but only in UI7 on my EDGE. When I had tried this before on UI5 it did not.

EDIT: Imprihome I run is beta and they have updated more then once since I last tried. So I can't at this point say if something changed in Imprihome that now allows login under a user and not anonymous or if it was only a UI5.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 06, 2015, 10:26:50 am
Ok so I have found that both ui5 and ui7 are working with imprihome and a vera user. I have authentication set to all connections and have cameras in both ui5 and ui7 all are working and none are logging in as anonymous Which has been disabled and deleted.

Also found that "secure-only" is alot more complicated then adding a visible user and password to the http commands like vera and imperihome do. Bottomline its not going to work with that checked. Here is what BI told me in an email.

"Yes the secure only option uses a login page and a session key ... user/password is not sent by itself but encrypted with the session." 

So I think I went as far as i can go. Only thing i haven't found but i am assuming at this point is imperihome has recently updated how the cameras use a user/password since the last time i tested. I use beta versions but 2.5.0 was just released yesterday.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: lreese68 on February 09, 2015, 01:40:26 am
OK, so what changed?  After I upgraded to 1.7.513 the "secure only" option must be unchecked in BI to allow Vera to see the cameras using the plugin.  I realize this is not certificate based SSL security when checked anyway.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 09, 2015, 11:17:26 am
OK, so what changed?  After I upgraded to 1.7.513 the "secure only" option must be unchecked in BI to allow Vera to see the cameras using the plugin.  I realize this is not certificate based SSL security when checked anyway.

Secure only has always needed to be unchecked...... Do a search in this thread and you can see that back since beginning of 2014 that was always the instructions. This plugin does not have what it takes to login using that option.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: ServiceXp on February 09, 2015, 07:36:06 pm
Ok, so Iv'e ordered my camera's  (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00G7GMEOG/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1J8BP6VZZEFBY&coliid=I1RNUVJMOJYMFO&psc=1), POE Switch (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833181279) but I have some more questions...

I will unfortunately have to run 2 cat6 lines to the attic, but I have some questions on the network topography.

My setup looks like this:

Office/Den -- Modem/Router >> 16 Port ProSafe Gigabit Sw >> Single Cat6 line to Living room.
Living Room --  8 Port Port ProSafe Gigabit Sw feeding TV, Media Streamer, Receiver, Blu-Ray, XBox One ,Wii and a computer.

This one line passes through the room where I will need to feed the 2 new lines out from for the camera's.

Question 1) Will I have to run a 2nd line from the Office/Den to this room (Another nightmare), or can I cut into the existing line and install a switch there?

Question 2) Is this computer (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856107072) strong enough to handle blue-Iris? (I have one laying around)

Question 3) With my network topography, where would be the best place to hang the Blue-Iris computer off of? (Main Switch, New Line Switch, Spliced Line Switch??)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on February 09, 2015, 07:53:34 pm
Computer power required depends on the number of camera's and their resolution. I started out with an HP N40L Microserver running WHS2011. That one pegged out after adding camera 6. So I upgraded it to an AMD Phenom II box. With 10 camera's, 3 of which are HD and set to 5FPS it is running between 70% and 80% CPU. Making the app somewhat slow in responding. I snagged a Lenovo TS140 with Xeon E3-1225 v3 for $270 not to long ago which will be the new box. Not only is it whisper quiet, power consumption is also very low. The only reason I have not upgraded yet is there may be an issue with BI v4.0 and the BI plugin. I'm waiting for that to be hashed out before I swap it out.

As far as server location goes, I'd plug it into the same switch you plug the 2 cables to your PoE switches into. That way traffic from the camera's should stay within that switch and not clutter up your 1Gb backbone from your office to you livingroom. As much of a pain it may be, I woudl run a 2nd cable as even teh traffic inside the switch will affect that line from your den to your livingroom throughput wise. The one question I have on your setup is why you have a 16 port switch and apparently only 1 cat6 connected to it to feed the livingroom. Why not connect that directly to the router/modem setup?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 09, 2015, 07:56:39 pm
Ok, so Iv'e ordered my camera's  (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00G7GMEOG/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1J8BP6VZZEFBY&coliid=I1RNUVJMOJYMFO&psc=1), POE Switch (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833181279) but I have some more questions...

I will unfortunately have to run 2 cat6 lines to the attic, but I have some questions on the network topography.

My setup looks like this:

Office/Den -- Modem/Router >> 16 Port ProSafe Gigabit Sw >> Single Cat6 line to Living room.
Living Room --  8 Port Port ProSafe Gigabit Sw feeding TV, Media Streamer, Receiver, Blu-Ray, XBox One ,Wii and a computer.

This one line passes through the room where I will need to feed the 2 new lines out from for the camera's.

Question 1) Will I have to run a 2nd line from the Office/Den to this room (Another nightmare), or can I cut into the existing line and install a switch there?

Question 2) Is this computer (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856107072) strong enough to handle blue-Iris? (I have one laying around)

Question 3) With my network topography, where would be the best place to hang the Blue-Iris computer off of? (Main Switch, New Line Switch, Spliced Line Switch??)

1) You can use the one GIG line you already have running to the living room and install the POE switch after the 8 port then run the cameras from there.

2) I didn't read back and see what cameras you have or how many but I see you said only 2 wires. That computer is pretty weak is not going to handle much. There is ways around this. Cut back on quality, stream direct to disk are first to come to mind. If there is only 2 cameras your should be fine anyways. When you get to 4 you'll have problems without reducing the quality and going direct to disc.

3) Probley won't matter much but Ideal would be in same POE switch going to cameras. That way daily traffic from cameras doesn't have to cross threw where the rest of the traffic is. From cameras, to POE switch, to Computer. Free's up traffic on the gig line form 8port to 16port switch.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: ServiceXp on February 09, 2015, 08:07:23 pm
Computer power required depends on the number of camera's and their resolution. I started out with an HP N40L Microserver running WHS2011. That one pegged out after adding camera 6. So I upgraded it to an AMD Phenom II box. With 10 camera's, 3 of which are HD and set to 5FPS it is running between 70% and 80% CPU. Making the app somewhat slow in responding. I snagged a Lenovo TS140 with Xeon E3-1225 v3 for $270 not to long ago which will be the new box. Not only is it whisper quiet, power consumption is also very low. The only reason I have not upgraded yet is there may be an issue with BI v4.0 and the BI plugin. I'm waiting for that to be hashed out before I swap it out.

As far as server location goes, I'd plug it into the same switch you plug the 2 cables to your PoE switches into. That way traffic from the camera's should stay within that switch and not clutter up your 1Gb backbone from your office to you livingroom. As much of a pain it may be, I woudl run a 2nd cable as even teh traffic inside the switch will affect that line from your den to your livingroom throughput wise. The one question I have on your setup is why you have a 16 port switch and apparently only 1 cat6 connected to it to feed the livingroom. Why not connect that directly to the router/modem setup?

 Thanks,

Yeah... the 16 port s/w is also handling computers in the office. I have 3 ports open. I didn't want to confuse an already confusing post :-)

Thanks Again BOFH.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: ServiceXp on February 09, 2015, 08:11:53 pm
Ok, so Iv'e ordered my camera's  (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00G7GMEOG/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1J8BP6VZZEFBY&coliid=I1RNUVJMOJYMFO&psc=1), POE Switch (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833181279) but I have some more questions...

I will unfortunately have to run 2 cat6 lines to the attic, but I have some questions on the network topography.

My setup looks like this:

Office/Den -- Modem/Router >> 16 Port ProSafe Gigabit Sw >> Single Cat6 line to Living room.
Living Room --  8 Port Port ProSafe Gigabit Sw feeding TV, Media Streamer, Receiver, Blu-Ray, XBox One ,Wii and a computer.

This one line passes through the room where I will need to feed the 2 new lines out from for the camera's.

Question 1) Will I have to run a 2nd line from the Office/Den to this room (Another nightmare), or can I cut into the existing line and install a switch there?

Question 2) Is this computer (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856107072) strong enough to handle blue-Iris? (I have one laying around)

Question 3) With my network topography, where would be the best place to hang the Blue-Iris computer off of? (Main Switch, New Line Switch, Spliced Line Switch??)

1) You can use the one GIG line you already have running to the living room and install the POE switch after the 8 port then run the cameras from there.

2) I didn't read back and see what cameras you have or how many but I see you said only 2 wires. That computer is pretty weak is not going to handle much. There is ways around this. Cut back on quality, stream direct to disk are first to come to mind. If there is only 2 cameras your should be fine anyways. When you get to 4 you'll have problems without reducing the quality and going direct to disc.

3) Probley won't matter much but Ideal would be in same POE switch going to cameras. That way daily traffic from cameras doesn't have to cross threw where the rest of the traffic is. From cameras, to POE switch, to Computer. Free's up traffic on the gig line form 8port to 16port switch.

Thanks integlikewho.

 You bring up another question, I didn't even think about... What size HDD will I need and how fast?  The little computer I linked to, has a WD 320GB Scorpio Blue in it with I think 8 gigs of ram. 

Also, what are you guys doing for off site storage? (if someone breaks in and steals all the computer equipment; all the recording will go with it..)?
 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on February 09, 2015, 08:19:49 pm
HD and RAM wise you are OK unless you want to save a year's worth of recordings. ;) You can set the max HD space used in BI and it will adhere to that. I've set apart 100Gb for BI. I keep the last 24 hours backed up to the cloud just in case of a burglary. Although with the sensors and my K9 security team roving the house, I doubt I have to worry too much. Not a big house, no expensice stuff so not really a target. Unless some dope addled moron. In which case the GSD's should be a suitable deterrent.  :P

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 09, 2015, 08:50:09 pm
Like was said BI lets you set a limit and it writes over it. I have I think 8 3MP cameras right now and I keep cameras at high quality and FPS 20+ and I record over a week on 80gig internal drive. I have that drive mirrored to hidden small NAS drive in the house.

The camera quality you recording and how often your recording with determine your mileage. None of my cameras record 24 hours. All are motion recording, some don't record when I'm home (interior cameras) so everyone's setup will be different. But 60 to 100 gigs is more then enough for a few days or a week.

For me cloud storage wasn't backing up fast enough and clogging up my upload speed to make it worth while. I have 60Mbps down but only 5Mbps upload, and I share torrents, and run a PLEX server. So my upload speed is already a bottleneck and to slow for me to stream what I want from my house. Having it constantly trying to upload to a remote cloud (plus paying monthly fees) wasn't what I wanted. So I played with a few ideas. I have a Cannon Gun safe with an Cat6 connection and power in it and thought about putting a WD Cloud drive in there or maybe a SSD Drive to cut down on heat. Haven't done either yet. I have a small cloud drive stashed in kids room. I figure they will steal the computer maybe tv's and audio video things but they won't grab the mini network drive.   
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: ServiceXp on February 09, 2015, 09:09:59 pm
Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on February 11, 2015, 10:04:19 pm
I've started to use VeraAlerts and Pushalot to my windows PCs and Windows phone.  I like it so much, I want all my alerts to come here, including my front door motion detection from BI.  I see there is a way to push to the Apple and Android client app, but can't figure out a way to do this with 3rd party apps like pushalot.

any ideas?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 11, 2015, 11:14:52 pm
Im confused your first sentance says your using pushalot, but then your last sentence asks how to use pushalot. Can you explain better what your trying to do?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: RichardTSchaefer on February 11, 2015, 11:22:01 pm
The Vera Alerts PLugin will send all of the Standard Vera Notifications via one or more Vera ALerts supported profiles ... one or more of which is Pushbullet.

The information flow:

1) Create a Vera Notification specifying which Vera User to send the notification to ...
2) Vera Alerts (via settings) has a mapping from Vera User to one or more Vera Alerts Profiles  ... one or more of which can be Pushbullet.

Using the Notification Confguration TAB in the Vera Alerts also allows you to change the text for any of these Notifications.
 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 17, 2015, 10:24:56 am
Are you guys getting the Can't Detect Device still? I keep getting in every few days only on selected (crappy) foscam cameras. I go into advanced and change com errors to zero and it goes away for a few days but always comes back on one or more.

Is this common problem and any fix coming for it?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on February 17, 2015, 02:25:25 pm
The Vera Alerts PLugin will send all of the Standard Vera Notifications via one or more Vera ALerts supported profiles ... one or more of which is Pushbullet.

The information flow:

1) Create a Vera Notification specifying which Vera User to send the notification to ...
2) Vera Alerts (via settings) has a mapping from Vera User to one or more Vera Alerts Profiles  ... one or more of which can be Pushbullet.

Using the Notification Confguration TAB in the Vera Alerts also allows you to change the text for any of these Notifications.

@richardtschaefer

Thanks Richard.... once again, I should have played with this FIRST before I asked questions... so I could be more specific.  Here's what I have setup right now.

1.  I'm using VeraAlerts with PushAlot to notify me if my garage door is left open.  For this I have created a profile in VA called "PushAlot" that i'm calling in the advanced tab of the scene.  Works great.
2.  Today, in the Blue Iris App, I have it setup to text me a picture of my front door when there is motion detected.  Using the BI Plugin, I can also have this send me a notification (again, on advanced tab) to my same PushAlot profile in VA.  Exactly what I want. 

What I can't figure out is how to attach a picture to that notification? Do I have to create a separate profile for the front door notification, then attach the pic somehow?  How do I pass the pic from BI to vera, or should I used the actual camera view in vera (via the BI plugin) to grab the image?

Hope i'm making sense. 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: mrv777 on February 17, 2015, 02:28:15 pm
Are you guys getting the Can't Detect Device still? I keep getting in every few days only on selected (crappy) foscam cameras. I go into advanced and change com errors to zero and it goes away for a few days but always comes back on one or more.

Is this common problem and any fix coming for it?

Are the foscams wireless or wired?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: ServiceXp on February 17, 2015, 02:35:07 pm
Any recommendations on a PowerLine POE adapter set (Ethernet over power line plus POE in one?) or a reliable Wifi Camera. (~30' from router)?


Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 17, 2015, 05:27:36 pm
Are you guys getting the Can't Detect Device still? I keep getting in every few days only on selected (crappy) foscam cameras. I go into advanced and change com errors to zero and it goes away for a few days but always comes back on one or more.

Is this common problem and any fix coming for it?

Are the foscams wireless or wired?

Wired, Wireless don't work for a crap. But neither do the camera's much. I actually had it also happen to a 1600.00 Arecont Vision 180 Degree camera also. So I don't think it just limited to just foscam. I wounder if it happens when the Blue iris server updates and reboots. But it doesn't happen to all cameras.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: lazyone on February 19, 2015, 10:25:17 pm
All my cameras show "Can't Detect Device" most all of the time.  It is kind of annoying.  These are various brands of cameras, which really shouldn't matter since the Vera is connected to Blue Iris web server, not directly to the camera.  The cameras always work in the Vera, as well as the motion detection sensors. - -UI7  Any solution?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 20, 2015, 12:16:57 am
All my cameras show "Can't Detect Device" most all of the time.  It is kind of annoying.  These are various brands of cameras, which really shouldn't matter since the Vera is connected to Blue Iris web server, not directly to the camera.  The cameras always work in the Vera, as well as the motion detection sensors. - -UI7  Any solution?

Well I have the same problem, but I know how to temporary fix it. They seem to come back after a few days one by one tho. It hasn't bothered me much as I can't see the error unless I'm in the UI doing some changes. Normal day to day and the rest of the family never see's it when you use a good APP.

Maybe a solution will be made in the plugin down the road.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on February 20, 2015, 12:34:34 pm
I believe the plugin has to be updated with a certain line of code to get these notifications to go away. I get them as well on my Ui7 box.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: ServiceXp on February 23, 2015, 03:16:17 pm
I'm running into the bad url issue, and also have security un-ticked.

Quick question, Does anyone know why security has to be off in BI even though we have username and password fields?


Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on February 23, 2015, 03:21:34 pm
From what I have heard, BI uses session tokens for security which the plugin does not support.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: ServiceXp on February 28, 2015, 04:59:45 pm
So I'm making some progress, and can not get the plugin to display the video, (for some reason it's drops quite a bit, but that issue is for another time)..

Problem:
  I have followed the instructions; point by point for the motion sensor setup, and yet the BI camera motion alert does not reach Vera, and I just can't figure out where the break down is taking place.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: ServiceXp on February 28, 2015, 05:06:36 pm
Oh and I almost forgot....

How do I tell the plugin to tell BI to control the Camera? (Disable, Run a Profile, etc.. )


Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 01, 2015, 10:28:41 pm
So I'm making some progress, and can not get the plugin to display the video, (for some reason it's drops quite a bit, but that issue is for another time)..

Problem:
  I have followed the instructions; point by point for the motion sensor setup, and yet the BI camera motion alert does not reach Vera, and I just can't figure out where the break down is taking place.

When you press test does it work? Problem is probley your setup or your device number.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 01, 2015, 10:30:55 pm
Oh and I almost forgot....

How do I tell the plugin to tell BI to control the Camera? (Disable, Run a Profile, etc.. )

BI plugin does not do this, but there is a few HTTP commands that you can run in a scene, PLEG or something that might give you what you need. You might need to post exactly what your doing for the right command.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: ServiceXp on March 02, 2015, 06:22:38 pm
Oh and I almost forgot....

How do I tell the plugin to tell BI to control the Camera? (Disable, Run a Profile, etc.. )

BI plugin does not do this, but there is a few HTTP commands that you can run in a scene, PLEG or something that might give you what you need. You might need to post exactly what your doing for the right command.

Ah, how did I miss that part.... Oh well. The idea was to Enable and Disable camera's and start and stop different BI profiles depending on the situational awareness of Vera. (all based on PLEG)

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 02, 2015, 06:45:11 pm
Oh and I almost forgot....

How do I tell the plugin to tell BI to control the Camera? (Disable, Run a Profile, etc.. )

BI plugin does not do this, but there is a few HTTP commands that you can run in a scene, PLEG or something that might give you what you need. You might need to post exactly what your doing for the right command.

Ah, how did I miss that part.... Oh well. The idea was to Enable and Disable camera's and start and stop different BI profiles depending on the situational awareness of Vera. (all based on PLEG)

I currently switch profiles with PLEG. for me its HOME-day, HOME-night, Away-Day and Away-night. I use pleg to switch to those profiles and notifications and recording options are different on each profile. I currently don't or haven't tried to disable certain cameras.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: ServiceXp on March 02, 2015, 06:47:39 pm
Oh and I almost forgot....

How do I tell the plugin to tell BI to control the Camera? (Disable, Run a Profile, etc.. )

BI plugin does not do this, but there is a few HTTP commands that you can run in a scene, PLEG or something that might give you what you need. You might need to post exactly what your doing for the right command.

Ah, how did I miss that part.... Oh well. The idea was to Enable and Disable camera's and start and stop different BI profiles depending on the situational awareness of Vera. (all based on PLEG)

I currently switch profiles with PLEG. for me its HOME-day, HOME-night, Away-Day and Away-night. I use pleg to switch to those profiles and notifications and recording options are different on each profile. I currently don't or haven't tried to disable certain cameras.

Would you mind sharing the code required to get that part working?

Thanks a million!

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 02, 2015, 10:19:13 pm
Oh and I almost forgot....

How do I tell the plugin to tell BI to control the Camera? (Disable, Run a Profile, etc.. )

BI plugin does not do this, but there is a few HTTP commands that you can run in a scene, PLEG or something that might give you what you need. You might need to post exactly what your doing for the right command.

Ah, how did I miss that part.... Oh well. The idea was to Enable and Disable camera's and start and stop different BI profiles depending on the situational awareness of Vera. (all based on PLEG)

I currently switch profiles with PLEG. for me its HOME-day, HOME-night, Away-Day and Away-night. I use pleg to switch to those profiles and notifications and recording options are different on each profile. I currently don't or haven't tried to disable certain cameras.

Would you mind sharing the code required to get that part working?

Thanks a million!

If I get a chance I'll look it up but its in this thread, probley back like page 10ish or something.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on March 03, 2015, 08:52:06 am
I do something similar with mine.

Under PLEG control Vera sends BI commands for "Normal Daytime", "Normal Night", "Armed Away", "Armed Home" and "Alarm Violated" BI Profiles. The "Normal" modes are quite similar but the "Armed" modes enable different cameras. If the "Away" is set then no one is home and all the inside cameras are active and will record if motion is detected.In "Home" mode inside cameras in "private" areas of the house remain inactive because someone is home. Obviously in "Violated" mode all inside and outside cameras are made active regardless of the state of occupancy and all are set to record continuously

The BI Profile change is handled by PLEG LUUP code sending:
luup.inet.wget("http://<BI_IP_ADDR>:<BI_PORT>/admin?profile=<X>&user=<USERMNAME>&pw=<PASSWORD>")

where "X" is
1 - Normal Day
2 - Normal Night
3 - Armed Home
4 - Armed Away
5 - Alarm Violated

Vera retains the last state sent to BI and resends it periodically in the event that I have manually changed it for testing and forgotten to restore it or the systems have gotten "out of sync" for some reason.

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: ServiceXp on March 03, 2015, 07:58:07 pm
I do something similar with mine.

Under PLEG control Vera sends BI commands for "Normal Daytime", "Normal Night", "Armed Away", "Armed Home" and "Alarm Violated" BI Profiles. The "Normal" modes are quite similar but the "Armed" modes enable different cameras. If the "Away" is set then no one is home and all the inside cameras are active and will record if motion is detected.In "Home" mode inside cameras in "private" areas of the house remain inactive because someone is home. Obviously in "Violated" mode all inside and outside cameras are made active regardless of the state of occupancy and all are set to record continuously

The BI Profile change is handled by PLEG LUUP code sending:
luup.inet.wget("http://<BI_IP_ADDR>:<BI_PORT>/admin?profile=<X>&user=<USERMNAME>&pw=<PASSWORD>")

where "X" is
1 - Normal Day
2 - Normal Night
3 - Armed Home
4 - Armed Away
5 - Alarm Violated

Vera retains the last state sent to BI and resends it periodically in the event that I have manually changed it for testing and forgotten to restore it or the systems have gotten "out of sync" for some reason.

Thanks clippermiami, I tried it, and it doesn't do anything for me. Do I have to do something in BI to get it to work?

luup.inet.wget("http://<192.168.1.75>:<81>/admin?profile=<3>&user=<USERNAME>&pw=<PASSWORD>")
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 03, 2015, 08:05:15 pm
Take out all the "<" and ">"
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 03, 2015, 08:08:06 pm
I also use an updated command that locks that profile.

luup.inet.wget("192.168.1.100:9091/admin?profile=1&lock=2&user=XXXXX&pw=XXXXX")

Here is mine for profile ONE and as is minus the user and password.

If you don't lock the profile you need to change the min. in BI to when the profile defaults back to another.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on March 03, 2015, 08:10:59 pm
I do something similar with mine.

Under PLEG control Vera sends BI commands for "Normal Daytime", "Normal Night", "Armed Away", "Armed Home" and "Alarm Violated" BI Profiles. The "Normal" modes are quite similar but the "Armed" modes enable different cameras. If the "Away" is set then no one is home and all the inside cameras are active and will record if motion is detected.In "Home" mode inside cameras in "private" areas of the house remain inactive because someone is home. Obviously in "Violated" mode all inside and outside cameras are made active regardless of the state of occupancy and all are set to record continuously

The BI Profile change is handled by PLEG LUUP code sending:
luup.inet.wget("http://<BI_IP_ADDR>:<BI_PORT>/admin?profile=<X>&user=<USERMNAME>&pw=<PASSWORD>")

where "X" is
1 - Normal Day
2 - Normal Night
3 - Armed Home
4 - Armed Away
5 - Alarm Violated

Vera retains the last state sent to BI and resends it periodically in the event that I have manually changed it for testing and forgotten to restore it or the systems have gotten "out of sync" for some reason.

Thanks clippermiami, I tried it, and it doesn't do anything for me. Do I have to do something in BI to get it to work?

luup.inet.wget("http://<192.168.1.75>:<81>/admin?profile=<3>&user=<USERNAME>&pw=<PASSWORD>")

Are you actually using the <> symbols because you don't, they were just to delineate the field that need to change for your situation
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: ServiceXp on March 03, 2015, 08:13:42 pm
Doh.... Thanks guys!! 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: ServiceXp on March 04, 2015, 12:11:51 pm
Well what do you know, using the correct syntax structure for the string worked well.   ::)

So is there a list of possible functions, or are you guys just puzzling these things out, step by step? 

Just to make sure I'm doing this right, the user must be listed as administrator for these to work?


Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 04, 2015, 01:12:40 pm
Well what do you know, using the correct syntax structure for the string worked well.   ::)

So is there a list of possible functions, or are you guys just puzzling these things out, step by step? 

Just to make sure I'm doing this right, the user must be listed as administrator for these to work?

There is an old BI manual kicking around with some of the basics, but I have contacted KEN at BI support several times telling him what I'm looking for and he gives me a command or tells me if its not possible.

I'm not sure if you need full admin rights, but that's all I use.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: johnmcc on March 15, 2015, 04:45:24 pm
Hi,
   Through reading this forum have finally setup Blue Iris, with Vera sending HTTP commands to change profiles. So thanks to all. In particular had to set options>webs server un check secure only, which permitted http commands to operate (which I found around page 20 of this topic)
I use HomeWave to control vera from my iPhone. Homewave as an option to view cameras on Vera. When I changed to Blue Iris, I noticed that HomeWave could view cameras for approx. 10 seconds and then Video would freeze for something like 40 to 60 seconds. After clearing secure only check box video stream appears to be steady.

Again thanks for all those post which allowed me to be up and running.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: bobbyt71 on March 23, 2015, 02:46:22 pm
Hi all,
Thanks for all the information in this thread.  I've read through 26 pages, but still haven't figured out how to solve my problem.
I'm on UI7.
I have 3 cams going thru BI.  I have the BI plug-in installed and have added 1 cam.  Short name: FamRm
All is well.
I add another device through the plugin, and am able to set the IP, port, username, and pwd.
Going back to the Cameras tab, I see my FamRm cam, and the new Blue Iris cam, which is currently showing the index page with the 3 cameras on it.
Going to the advanced settings of the new cam instance in UI7, I change the CameraName variable to Garage (the short name for the cam in BI), then click off the textbox and a label appears saying "Change property command sent".
Once I save the settings for the camera instance, I go back to the Cameras tab, and the new cam I just added simply disappears, leaving me with just the 1 original camera called FamRm.
I hope I'm just missing something stupid here.  Any thoughts?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 23, 2015, 03:23:03 pm
Hi all,
Thanks for all the information in this thread.  I've read through 26 pages, but still haven't figured out how to solve my problem.
I'm on UI7.
I have 3 cams going thru BI.  I have the BI plug-in installed and have added 1 cam.  Short name: FamRm
All is well.
I add another device through the plugin, and am able to set the IP, port, username, and pwd.
Going back to the Cameras tab, I see my FamRm cam, and the new Blue Iris cam, which is currently showing the index page with the 3 cameras on it.
Going to the advanced settings of the new cam instance in UI7, I change the CameraName variable to Garage (the short name for the cam in BI), then click off the textbox and a label appears saying "Change property command sent".
Once I save the settings for the camera instance, I go back to the Cameras tab, and the new cam I just added simply disappears, leaving me with just the 1 original camera called FamRm.
I hope I'm just missing something stupid here.  Any thoughts?
Thanks.

Your problem seems to be nothing with the Blueiris app.

It's actually a problem I haven't seem but others have been reporting with the latest ui7 update of camera disappearing. I'll look for some links for you but I haven't seen a solution.

EDIT: Well damn I can't find that other thread. I know there is issues with ui7 saving, but that shouldn't make the device disappear. If you leave it at index and reload then refresh browser does the device disappear? Can you test more options to see whats really going on. I think it's disappearing after the save when it reboots.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: bobbyt71 on March 23, 2015, 03:50:21 pm
Thanks for looking.
Well, I had typed in the CameraName (and clicked off the textbox), and let it sit there for like half an hour.  Just saw your response and went to hit refresh, without hitting Save on camera device page.  Going to the Cameras tab, both cameras were there, with the new one still having the index page showing all 3 camera images.  I started typing this post, and I went back to hit refresh again when I noticed the Garage cam image was showing up as it was supposed to!

I guess the moral of the story is to wait a half hour between each and every step. :(

Thanks for checking into it for me.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: crimsondr on March 23, 2015, 03:50:51 pm
Anyone with Vera Edge and this plugin comment on stability?  Does your edge reboot often?

Previously after installing this plugin my Edge would reboot 1-2 times daily.  I'm not sure if it was a result of the plugin itself or the Edge being unstable at the time.  After my last firmware upgrade I installed everything from scratch and skipped this plugin.  My Edge almost never reboots/restarts now so I'm a bit wary to try again.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 23, 2015, 04:38:22 pm
Anyone with Vera Edge and this plugin comment on stability?  Does your edge reboot often?

Previously after installing this plugin my Edge would reboot 1-2 times daily.  I'm not sure if it was a result of the plugin itself or the Edge being unstable at the time.  After my last firmware upgrade I installed everything from scratch and skipped this plugin.  My Edge almost never reboots/restarts now so I'm a bit wary to try again.

I have the edge and recently started running a restart log thinking that some of my z-wave lag was from reboots. So far I think I have fixed my lags by turning off Automatically discover devices on my network and looking threw the reboot logs before and after show no unscheduled reboots. So I think its safe to say with 6 cameras working on the edge threw BI I'm not having a reboot issue.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 23, 2015, 04:41:07 pm
Thanks for looking.
Well, I had typed in the CameraName (and clicked off the textbox), and let it sit there for like half an hour.  Just saw your response and went to hit refresh, without hitting Save on camera device page.  Going to the Cameras tab, both cameras were there, with the new one still having the index page showing all 3 camera images.  I started typing this post, and I went back to hit refresh again when I noticed the Garage cam image was showing up as it was supposed to!

I guess the moral of the story is to wait a half hour between each and every step. :(

Thanks for checking into it for me.

Yea UI7 is finiky with saves, reloads, and refreshes. I don't think I have found the magical order either, but getting things to save does take time without switching screens then they always want a LUUP reload and a browser refresh at-least once (some plugins say twice) to reflect the new changes. All part of the ui7 known issues list for now.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on March 23, 2015, 05:52:12 pm
Hey there...

Any idea how to make the time 'between' motion caught on camera longer?  i have a great setup of my front door now sending me pics via email when there is motion.  but if you are standing there talking to someone, it will send it again every few minutes.  I think that's the 'break' time in BI, but can't quite figure it out. 

Or maybe i let it keep recording/capturing, and just adjust the email notifications sent.

thoughts?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 23, 2015, 07:02:11 pm
Hey there...

Any idea how to make the time 'between' motion caught on camera longer?  i have a great setup of my front door now sending me pics via email when there is motion.  but if you are standing there talking to someone, it will send it again every few minutes.  I think that's the 'break' time in BI, but can't quite figure it out. 

Or maybe i let it keep recording/capturing, and just adjust the email notifications sent.

thoughts?

I use VERA alerts for my notifications, including with pictures. I use PLEG to setup the conditions for sending me these alerts. I couldn't have an email set every time there is motions as we come in and out when we get home or go out to the car. I would get annoyed if I got an alert for each family member that opened the door.

-If I open the door it starts a timer and won't send and alert until the timer runs out. (don't want a picture of me everytime I go outside the front door)
-If I just got home (using home and away) it starts a timer and don't send me a picture of me going in the front door,
-If no one is home only send me a picture a max of every 10 min. (this was more then just for the front door camera but I have a driveway camera and side gate and more this prevents the repeted alerts if say the Gardner is there)
-I the front door was opened then this camera or other front yard motion keeps going off less then every 2 min, don't send me an alert. Keeps a 2 min timer live until all motion stops. (this is incase I go outside and start playing ball with the kid in the front yard none of the cameras will send me alerts since I just went out side and motion hasn't stopped for more then 2 min.)
-Sunrise and sunset lockout (was added to prevent false notifications when camera switches from day to night IR's.

Anyways here is a copy of my condition for this alert on the front porch camera that has grown to be quiet complicated of the year. I just keep adding to it if I get a false alert for some reason. But my Goal is to only get alerts when I need them not when me, the wife, or my kids set them off.

(FrontPorchMotion and (!SunriseLockout and !SunsetLockout) and (!tFrontPorchMotion and (FrontPorchM; !tFrontPorchMotion)) and (!tInbound and (InBoundTimer; !InBoundTimer)) and (!JimHome and !AdrianneHome)) or (FrontPorchMotion and !tOutsideFrontMotion and !FrontDoorOpen and (!SunriseLockout and !SunsetLockout) and (!tFrontDoor and (FrontDoorTimer1; !tFrontDoor)) and (!tInbound and (InBoundTimer; !InBoundTimer)) and (!tFrontPorchMotion and (FrontPorchM; !tFrontPorchMotion)) and ((!JimHome and AdrianneHome and (!tAdrianneHome7 and (AdrianneHomeTimer; !tAdrianneHome7))) Or (!AdrianneHome and JimHome and (!tJimHome7 and (JimHomeTimer; !tJimHome7))) Or (AdrianneHome and JimHome and (!tAdrianneHome7 and (AdrianneHomeTimer; !tAdrianneHome7)) and (!tJimHome7 and (JimHomeTimer; !tJimHome7)))))

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Cor on March 24, 2015, 02:28:50 am
-Sunrise and sunset lockout (was added to prevent false notifications when camera switches from day to night IR's.


How did you do that?    Because that is one of the most annyoing false triggers I have evry day.

Thanks,
Cor
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 24, 2015, 12:42:29 pm
-Sunrise and sunset lockout (was added to prevent false notifications when camera switches from day to night IR's.


How did you do that?    Because that is one of the most annyoing false triggers I have evry day.

Thanks,
Cor

Well I was having that also and I get it for a few reasons. BI tries to stop this internally, but only if you have BI turn on the IR's during a schedule, and only on that one camera (what I mean is I have doubles of cameras for different sensitivities and blockout or motion areas for recording vs. notifications) So BI should be able to fix this to a certain extent in BI possibly. For me it was easier to do it in PLEG.

First I have BI manually switching the IR's on and off at a preset offset based on sunrise and sunset everyday (vs. having the cameras all do it anytime they sense it). So now that I know Everyday say 20 min before and 20 min after sunset the cameras switch.........
All I did is created a timer in PLEG (triggers) that comes on 1 min. before that time and goes off 1 min after and used it in the condition to ignore alerts during this time.  So for 2 mins during the time I have BI switch the cameras IR's on and off I have no motion notifications.

This was one of the last things I added. If I get a false trigger I just add another condition to fix, block, ignore it.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 24, 2015, 04:46:24 pm
Anyone removed the Camera and kept the Motion sensors?

I'm trying to cut back on resources and I have now started to stream the cameras in Imperihome Directly from the camera or Blueiris (currently playing with both). So using my vera app I get a better stream this way and I don't need to bog down VERA running all my cameras threw it.

Only thing is I want to continue using the motion sensors from the cameras in VERA. I haven't started playing yet, but I'm assuming if I delete the camera it will delete the motion right? Any way to keep all my motions and get rid of all my cameras?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on March 24, 2015, 04:53:31 pm
You should be able to use the BI "Request from a web service" to notify Vera. BI/Camera/Alerts/Request from a web service" to set a Multi Switch as a trigger for a PLEG. I had mine set up this way but my Vera has Become so unstable that I had to strip all this stuff out just to keep Vera running. It's really p***ing me off.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 24, 2015, 04:59:21 pm
You should be able to use the BI "Request from a web service" to notify Vera. BI/Camera/Alerts/Request from a web service" to set a Multi Switch as a trigger for a PLEG. I had mine set up this way but my Vera has Become so unstable that I had to strip all this stuff out just to keep Vera running. It's really p***ing me off.

Yes I'm sure I can use a multiswitch and http commands as I have been using this for a few things, But the motion sensor icons and layout is much nicer and already setup. If i can keep it I would like to try that first. I'm about to attempt to remove a single camera and keep the sensor. There is a few settings I'm unsure of in the sensor, but the way it's setup it should require the camera.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 24, 2015, 06:09:36 pm
Well I deleted my first camera and sensor was gone. I then created my own virtual motion again with the same files and info that was used before.

Info here: http://faq.mios.com/content/2/40/en/how-to-create-virtual-device.html

But I would still like to find out how to disassociate the current sensor first then delete only the camera, keeping my ID and everything the same. This will prevent me from redoing all the scenes and PLEG with these devices in them.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: johnmcc on March 24, 2015, 07:24:57 pm
Anyone removed the Camera and kept the Motion sensors?

I'm trying to cut back on resources and I have now started to stream the cameras in Imperihome Directly from the camera or Blueiris (currently playing with both). So using my vera app I get a better stream this way and I don't need to bog down VERA running all my cameras threw it.

Only thing is I want to continue using the motion sensors from the cameras in VERA. I haven't started playing yet, but I'm assuming if I delete the camera it will delete the motion right? Any way to keep all my motions and get rid of all my cameras?

I use blue iris for motion detection without utilising the motion detection in the plugin, in Blue iris Alerts selecting run script/program.
Created a batch file with the following commands
parameter %1 is the address of vera
parameter %2 is the device number
Code: [Select]
wget -q "http://%1:3480/data_request?id=lu_action&output_format=xml&DeviceNum=%2&serviceId=urn:upnp-org:serviceId:SwitchPower1&action=SetTarget&newTargetValue=1" -O NUL
 timeout /T 2
wget "http://%1:3480/data_request?id=lu_action&output_format=xml&DeviceNum=%2&serviceId=urn:upnp-org:serviceId:SwitchPower1&action=SetTarget&newTargetValue=0" -O NUL


You will require wget.exe

The batch file trigger a virtual switch timeout switches it back after a time delay



Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on March 24, 2015, 07:28:03 pm
I combined all my sensors in one or rstrouse's Virtual Panels (req UI7) So much more compact and able to see status in one glance. http addressable like the multiswitch as well. Warning, that plugin is like crack, addictive as all h*ll. :)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 24, 2015, 10:04:51 pm
I combined all my sensors in one or rstrouse's Virtual Panels (req UI7) So much more compact and able to see status in one glance. http addressable like the multiswitch as well. Warning, that plugin is like crack, addictive as all h*ll. :)

I been watching that and I'm sure that's what I should do...... But I'm afraid of the coo coo.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 24, 2015, 10:06:19 pm
Anyone removed the Camera and kept the Motion sensors?

I'm trying to cut back on resources and I have now started to stream the cameras in Imperihome Directly from the camera or Blueiris (currently playing with both). So using my vera app I get a better stream this way and I don't need to bog down VERA running all my cameras threw it.

Only thing is I want to continue using the motion sensors from the cameras in VERA. I haven't started playing yet, but I'm assuming if I delete the camera it will delete the motion right? Any way to keep all my motions and get rid of all my cameras?

Thanks this is what I'm currently using.
I use blue iris for motion detection without utilising the motion detection in the plugin, in Blue iris Alerts selecting run script/program.
Created a batch file with the following commands
parameter %1 is the address of vera
parameter %2 is the device number
Code: [Select]
wget -q "http://%1:3480/data_request?id=lu_action&output_format=xml&DeviceNum=%2&serviceId=urn:upnp-org:serviceId:SwitchPower1&action=SetTarget&newTargetValue=1" -O NUL
 timeout /T 2
wget "http://%1:3480/data_request?id=lu_action&output_format=xml&DeviceNum=%2&serviceId=urn:upnp-org:serviceId:SwitchPower1&action=SetTarget&newTargetValue=0" -O NUL


You will require wget.exe

The batch file trigger a virtual switch timeout switches it back after a time delay
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on April 03, 2015, 10:47:50 am
In poking around in LuaUPnP.log for some other activity I found these messages in the log for the Vera with the Blue Iris Plug in. I don't know that they are related other than they don't appear in the log for the other Vera that does not have cameras or blue Iris.

Code: [Select]
02 04/03/15 10:42:26.202 write_data_header aborting with 0/503 0x48 0x54 0x54 0x50 0x2f 0x31 0x2e 0x31 0x20 0x35 0x30 0x33 0x20 0x53 0x65 0x72 0x76 0x69 0x63 0x65 0x20 0x55 0x6e 0x61 0x76 0x61 0x69 0x6c 0x61 0x62 0x6c 0x65 0xd 0xa (HTTP/1.1 503 Service Unavailablern) <0x31e15680>
02 04/03/15 10:42:26.202 Generic_IP_Camera_Manager::REQ_Image return:23 httpresp:503 unhandled <0x31e15680>

There are general several dozen of these in two groups. Has anyone seen this and is it anything to be concerned about. the Blue Iris Plug In is working fine both locally on the Vera and via ImperiHome so whatever these are they don't seem to have a negative impact on functionality

Thanks
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: dmacaskill on April 20, 2015, 10:39:06 am
Hi, does anyone know how to add a date/time stamp to the Vera notification for the Blue Iris Sensor Plugin?  I receive multiple messages when my camera is triggered in BI and then Vera send the notification but I don't know when they are sent.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on April 20, 2015, 11:09:19 am
Hi, does anyone know how to add a date/time stamp to the Vera notification for the Blue Iris Sensor Plugin?  I receive multiple messages when my camera is triggered in BI and then Vera send the notification but I don't know when they are sent.

Use VeraAlerts for notifications and you can specify the timestamp for messages.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on April 20, 2015, 11:13:56 am
Hi, does anyone know how to add a date/time stamp to the Vera notification for the Blue Iris Sensor Plugin?  I receive multiple messages when my camera is triggered in BI and then Vera send the notification but I don't know when they are sent.

It's no different then with any other notification. The time should be on the alert. I use VERA alerts to receive all my notifications. {timestamp} can be used with vera alerts to get actual time.
I have used PROWL on crApple Phones.

How are you receiving the alerts now? EMAIL, TEXT?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: dmacaskill on April 20, 2015, 11:50:28 am
Ok I just setup Vera to send both a TEXT and EMAIL, the email has the date and time.  So I have noticed the TEXT email is cutting off and there is not enough room in the TEXT message to display the date and time.  Is there a way to customize the message, I tried to shorten the BI motion sensor device name and I do receive more text but not enough to show the date and time.  Any ideas?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on April 20, 2015, 12:36:57 pm
Ok I just setup Vera to send both a TEXT and EMAIL, the email has the date and time.  So I have noticed the TEXT email is cutting off and there is not enough room in the TEXT message to display the date and time.  Is there a way to customize the message, I tried to shorten the BI motion sensor device name and I do receive more text but not enough to show the date and time.  Any ideas?

With vera alerts you can also create a custom override message not an option with the emails or text. Also the timestamp on an email is when it was sent not when vera saw the event.

Options on the stock messages are not very good which is why most of us have moved to somthing better.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: ilikelife on April 20, 2015, 03:10:58 pm
I think I'm close, but still no cigar.  I just re-read all 32 pages of this thread, but I'm still missing something.

Bottom line is that although the Blue Iris camera motion sensors in Vera turn red when the cameras detect motion, they don't trigger a scene.

I followed the instructions @ https://github.com/undert03/vera-blueiris to install the BI plugin and configure the motion detection in Vera.  When I click "test" button in BI Alerts section, the icon in Vera shows motion.  Real motion in front of the camera also shows in Vera.

I created a simple scene in Vera with a trigger "Whenever Cam1 Motion Sensor detects motion whether armed or disarmed" to turn on a light switch.

I then jump up and down in front of the camera like an idiot, BI detects motion, records a video clip.  The Vera motion sensor shows motion, but the scene doesn't run.

Any idea what I've missed?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on April 20, 2015, 06:55:28 pm
I then jump up and down in front of the camera like an idiot, BI detects motion, records a video clip.  The Vera motion sensor shows motion, but the scene doesn't run.

Any idea what I've missed?

Well everything seems good on the Blueiris side. Sounds like you problem is in the scene you created or the action you have attached to it.

Have you tested another sensor, say a door. Just to make sure you understand how the "Scene Setup" works? Do you have other scenes that currently work? Is this your first?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: ilikelife on April 20, 2015, 11:08:50 pm
Ok, I guess it was worse than "like an idiot"...

@integlikewhoa

Thanks for the suggestion, but no it's not my first, and I do have others working.  So I added a regular motion sensor to the scene, and as I walked out of the room to go trip the "real" sensor, the BI motion caught me and ran the scene.   :-[   I then deleted the real sensor, and it still works. 

The only thing I can think to blame it on, besides myself, is the 1 minute delay on the BI alert, or like @bobbyt71 said:  "I guess the moral of the story is to wait a half hour between each and every step."

So thanks, it's working like a champ!  I've still got one camera that I can't set presets, but I think I'll just sit quietly for a while.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on April 20, 2015, 11:15:55 pm
Ok, I guess it was worse than "like an idiot"...

@integlikewhoa

Thanks for the suggestion, but no it's not my first, and I do have others working.  So I added a regular motion sensor to the scene, and as I walked out of the room to go trip the "real" sensor, the BI motion caught me and ran the scene.   :-[   I then deleted the real sensor, and it still works. 

The only thing I can think to blame it on, besides myself, is the 1 minute delay on the BI alert, or like @bobbyt71 said:  "I guess the moral of the story is to wait a half hour between each and every step."

So thanks, it's working like a champ!  I've still got one camera that I can't set presets, but I think I'll just sit quietly for a while.

Glad its working now.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: dmacaskill on April 21, 2015, 09:25:43 am
Hi, is there a way to see recordings from BI within Vera? I have recordings in BI but when I select "recorded" option in Vera, it says there are no recordings.  thanks.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: garrettwp on April 21, 2015, 10:03:29 am
No, there is no way for the blue iris plugin. What you see is the vera built in feature.

- Garrett

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: dmacaskill on April 21, 2015, 03:50:43 pm
ok thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: NotYetRated on April 21, 2015, 08:30:33 pm
Hello, issue connecting cameras in Vera.

VeraLite on UI7
Blue Iris webserver is working properly via internal network and browser. I have user account turned on.

I installed blue iris plugin, added camera, configured Blue Iris server IP and port, username and password, and set the camera short name. I get a "not connected" in the image of the device in Vera UI where the video of the camera should be.

Thoughts? Suggestions?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on April 21, 2015, 08:38:39 pm
Make sure in Blue Iris settings you have authentication switched off for LAN access.

See this thread for a detailed step by step I recently posted: http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,31804.msg230871.html
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: dmacaskill on April 21, 2015, 09:35:28 pm
Has anyone experienced an issue with their iPhone vera app after installing the BI camera app and motion sensor feature.  I am now getting a "thank you for your patience" message and then a failed to connect with the iPhone app.  I have removed and reinstalled the app but still not working and it did prior.  Just wondering if this may be related to the BI plugin.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on April 21, 2015, 09:41:11 pm
Has anyone experienced an issue with their iPhone vera app after installing the BI camera app and motion sensor feature.  I am now getting a "thank you for your patience" message and then a failed to connect with the iPhone app.  I have removed and reinstalled the app but still not working and it did prior.  Just wondering if this may be related to the BI plugin.

Have you tested on and off different wifi networks and 3g/4g to see if anything changes? Anything is possible but doesn't seem like I would expect it to be related.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: dmacaskill on April 21, 2015, 09:55:53 pm
I just got into the app after three days of trying...I believe it's possibly Vera being slow responding and the app times out.  I'll see if I continue to experience issues .  Thanks
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on April 21, 2015, 10:02:09 pm
I just got into the app after three days of trying...I believe it's possibly Vera being slow responding and the app times out.  I'll see if I continue to experience issues .  Thanks

The stock VERA app was always super slow for me anyways, not sure what your experience was before. I have also recently ditched BI plugin and all cameras to also help with other Vera issues including delays on executing commands.

I use ImperiHome on Andriod and Homewave on Crapple devices. Homewave is working on but doesn't currently offer camera streaming. ImperiHome does but they bearly beta testing on Apple.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Don Diego on April 22, 2015, 07:07:59 am
Has anyone experienced an issue with their iPhone vera app after installing the BI camera app and motion sensor feature.  I am now getting a "thank you for your patience" message and then a failed to connect with the iPhone app.  I have removed and reinstalled the app but still not working and it did prior.  Just wondering if this may be related to the BI plugin.

Hi--

  The app works fine for me with a iPhone 6+

    Don
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Ramias on April 22, 2015, 07:32:37 pm
Any fix for the "can't detect device" issue with UI7 and this (and other camera) plugins?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on April 22, 2015, 07:38:57 pm
Any fix for the "can't detect device" issue with UI7 and this (and other camera) plugins?

Nothing permanent yet, you can go in advanced, variables and change the configured to 1, but it will come back in a day or more again.
Title: Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin Help Please
Post by: Nobber on May 01, 2015, 02:27:06 am
have installed the plugin and two cameras into blue Iris but when I go to view one camera through vera I see a squashed image of both cameras, I must be missing something any help or advice please?


running Veralite UI5 Tenvis jpt3815w and TH692

Title: Re: Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin Help Please
Post by: tomgru on May 01, 2015, 09:56:29 am
have installed the plugin and two cameras into blue Iris but when I go to view one camera through vera I see a squashed image of both cameras, I must be missing something any help or advice please?


running Veralite UI5 Tenvis jpt3815w and TH692

I believe it's in the directions and video .... you need to need to create a device for each camera and use the short name you assigned them in BI.
Title: Re: Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin Help Please
Post by: integlikewhoa on May 01, 2015, 10:48:58 am
have installed the plugin and two cameras into blue Iris but when I go to view one camera through vera I see a squashed image of both cameras, I must be missing something any help or advice please?


running Veralite UI5 Tenvis jpt3815w and TH692

Your probley looking at the short name "INDEX" which is all your cameras in one picture. As they stated you need to read the directions and use the short name of the camera you want to view not "INDEX" or all of your cameras at once.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Nobber on May 02, 2015, 03:51:03 am
Thanks, I missed the short name in the urls in the device

Nobber
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: dannieboiz on May 09, 2015, 12:22:37 pm
From BI, when i send the test command, the motion detector senses it. But when I actually have motion nothing happens. Sounds like a BI issue?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on May 09, 2015, 12:36:58 pm
From BI, when i send the test command, the motion detector senses it. But when I actually have motion nothing happens. Sounds like a BI issue?

Yes it does. Make sure you have the BI triggering set properly. You can specify the thresholds, in what profiles the triggering is active, etc. Its a bit of a balancing act to get them to trigger when you want it and not trigger the rest of the time.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on May 09, 2015, 04:34:22 pm
From BI, when i send the test command, the motion detector senses it. But when I actually have motion nothing happens. Sounds like a BI issue?

Yes it does. Make sure you have the BI triggering set properly. You can specify the thresholds, in what profiles the triggering is active, etc. Its a bit of a balancing act to get them to trigger when you want it and not trigger the rest of the time.

Just to add to this, also check or uncheck the option to wait so long before reporting motion again. I think by default it waits a min or more before sending the motion command again.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: erkme73 on June 11, 2015, 07:17:05 pm
Apologies if this is addressed in the previous 33 pages, but... Can this (or any other plug-in) use an existing Vera trigger (i.e. sensor, timer, etc) to get Blue Iris to trigger recording on a given camera?

For example, I'm using the DSC alarm plug in and have dozens of wireless sensors on doors, mailbox, gates, etc.  When the mail box is opened, I have Vera send me an email to let me know mail is here.  I'd love for it to also tell the camera aimed at the mailbox to record.

As good as BI is with motion detect, there are times where it simply does not detect movement that it should, and I hate to rely on it.  Having VERA trigger BI to record would be considerably more reliable that the motion analytics within BI.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on June 11, 2015, 09:07:01 pm
You can have Vera control BI via http commands in the LUUP section of a scene. 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on June 11, 2015, 09:55:03 pm
Apologies if this is addressed in the previous 33 pages, but... Can this (or any other plug-in) use an existing Vera trigger (i.e. sensor, timer, etc) to get Blue Iris to trigger recording on a given camera?

For example, I'm using the DSC alarm plug in and have dozens of wireless sensors on doors, mailbox, gates, etc.  When the mail box is opened, I have Vera send me an email to let me know mail is here.  I'd love for it to also tell the camera aimed at the mailbox to record.

As good as BI is with motion detect, there are times where it simply does not detect movement that it should, and I hate to rely on it.  Having VERA trigger BI to record would be considerably more reliable that the motion analytics within BI.

You can have Vera control BI via http commands in the LUUP section of a scene.

And that has nothing to do with the plugin. You can do that now.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: erkme73 on June 11, 2015, 10:02:10 pm
Thanks to both of you for the reply.  I'm as wet behind the ears as it gets with LUUP.

I've found the correct http command for triggering a given camera:

http://192.168.x.x/admin?camera=CameraShortName&trigger&user=xxxxx&pw=xxxx

But haven't had any success getting the 'action' portion in the PLEG plugin to send it.

I just pasted the working command (verified via browser)  in the LUUP section of the actions dialog box, but it isn't that simple:

Triggers (all)[96] : Invalid LUA Action:StormDoorOpened

I realize this has nothing to do with the plug-in, so I apologize for hijacking this thread.

Edited to add:

After getting pointed in the right direction from these two replies, I've found the proper syntax for LUUP:

luup.inet.wget("http://192.168.X.X:XX/admin?camera=camera_short_name&trigger&user=XXXXX&pw=XXXXXX",5)

I created a scene, and it triggered perfectly.  Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: blindman75 on June 13, 2015, 09:59:17 pm
I am new to Vera an just installed a Vera Edge.  Been running blue iris for a couple of years.  Will this plug in allow a camera to sense motion and then trigger a device or scene?

Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on June 15, 2015, 01:41:46 pm
I am new to Vera an just installed a Vera Edge.  Been running blue iris for a couple of years.  Will this plug in allow a camera to sense motion and then trigger a device or scene?

Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk

Yes this plugin will.

There is also ways of doing the samne with virtual motion sensor plugin if you don't want the camera images bogging down vera.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: blindman75 on June 15, 2015, 02:09:41 pm
Do you have a link to instructions on  how I would do this with the virtual motion sensor?

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Title: migration from BI3 to BI4
Post by: jorell10022 on June 26, 2015, 07:34:59 am
Has anyone had trouble with the plug in not working after migrating from version 3 to 4?  Sorry if i missed that in the forums but I didn't see it.

I moved from version 3 to version 4 and my plugins stopped working (I had them working great - emailing a .jpg when the motion sensors were tripped . . . ).  I created a new plugin to see if I could get that working, but was not able to make it work.  I did move BI to a new, faster pc, but I put it on the same IP address as the old computer, so would not have thought that would matter.

BI is working fine both on the pc and when I view remotely through the app

Any ideas on what I'm missing? :)

Thanks!!
Title: Re: migration from BI3 to BI4
Post by: integlikewhoa on June 26, 2015, 08:58:06 am
Has anyone had trouble with the plug in not working after migrating from version 3 to 4?  Sorry if i missed that in the forums but I didn't see it.

I moved from version 3 to version 4 and my plugins stopped working (I had them working great - emailing a .jpg when the motion sensors were tripped . . . ).  I created a new plugin to see if I could get that working, but was not able to make it work.  I did move BI to a new, faster pc, but I put it on the same IP address as the old computer, so would not have thought that would matter.

BI is working fine both on the pc and when I view remotely through the app

Any ideas on what I'm missing? :)

Thanks!!

No difference that I remember. I'm going to say that you didn't setup your new BI alerts right in the BI settings. Did you set up the VERA IP in BI?

EDIT: Nevermind that if your not even getting a picture. How about the security settings also? I think the secure only settings or around there might be your problem.
Title: Re: migration from BI3 to BI4
Post by: jorell10022 on June 26, 2015, 10:43:27 am
Thank you!   I had to set authentication on the web server tab to "non-Lan only" and now it works perfectly.  Hope that helps someone else also.

Thanks for the tip :D
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: adamjs83 on July 07, 2015, 03:53:48 pm
Does anyone know of step by step instructions to get this plugin setup? 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on July 07, 2015, 04:15:30 pm
Does anyone know of step by step instructions to get this plugin setup?

Did you read the 2nd post in this thread on the 1st page?

There is a link to here https://github.com/undert03/vera-blueiris which I think gives you everything you need to know.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: paulmon on July 08, 2015, 10:03:21 am
Is anyone else having problem adding URL and DirectStreamingURL settings? They keep reverting to "/mjpg/index/video.mjpg" and "/image/index?q=80&s=80&time=now" after save and reload.

These string are automatically set. All you need to do is enter an ip / port for BI server and camera name.

Thanks for creating this plugin by the way. Been waiting for this for years.

I understand. This happens after setting the correct parameters in the "advance tab" (IP:port, name, URL, directstreamurl, etc). Everything is working until after awhile (not sure what triggers it) it reverts back to the default "index" strings. The weird thing is that the devices in question DO NOT show up as created devices in the Blue Iris Camera Plugin page. I think I'm gonna start from scratch, I might have screwed something up somewhere.  What's the cleanest way of uninstalling the plugin?

I'm having this exact same problem. Installed the plugin, put in the IP port, an image shows once in vera on the camera device icon, then URL reverts. Anyone have any suggestions? My camera is accessible via IP:Port/Images/Cam1 the index url that gets put in by the plugin doesn't return anything.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on July 08, 2015, 06:07:46 pm
use the advanced tab, and go to apps and reboot vera before you try and save of refresh the browser.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: paulmon on July 09, 2015, 01:00:50 pm

I've got my two cameras working now with Blue Iris and motion detection working too.  The only missing piece is getting the correctly URL to work for the camera.  It's currently loading the "index" page so all the cameras show.

How can I fix the URL so it stops reverting to the index URL?  I've tried rebooting, I've tried saving, I've tried dancing a Jig, nothing has worked.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on July 09, 2015, 07:04:41 pm
1. Log into Blue Iris and note down the 'short name' for each of your cameras.

2. In Vera's dashboard go to the advanced properties for the camera and replace all 3 occurences of index with that short name.

If you are on UI5, SAVE. After the reload you should be able to see the correct camera.

If on UI7 you have some fun ahead of you. Click BACK and wait for LUUP to reload. Then do a browser refresh and verify your changes to the variables part of the Advanced tab held. If not, rinse and repeat. This is not the plugin but an issue with Ui7 loading the page from cache with the old data instead of loading the fresh one. It has already been reported to GetVera. After the LUUP reload and page refresh you should see the correct camera.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: wezley69 on July 29, 2015, 10:40:31 pm
I thought this would be a simple install and configuration.  It appears it may be too complex for me.  I installed the plugin and let the LUUP reload.  A new device called Blue Iris Camxxx was created.  I went to the settings page and entered IP and port of the BI server.  I then added the username and password I setup in option/users in BI.  I tested the username, password, IP and port by successfully logging in to the webserver.
I then went to the advanced settings and replaced the 3 entries "index" with the short name of the camera as set in BI.  I reloaded many times to no avail.
I get an "not connected" image instead of the camera stream.  I left all other entries default.  I have gone back to settings and advanced settings several times to ensure the setting stuck.  Not sure what to try next?  I did not read all 34 pages but I did scan through.  Over and over I see the basic steps I outlined here.  Any help is much appreciated.  UI7

EDIT:  Had to change Authentication type on the webserver tab in BI to Non-LAN only.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: wezley69 on July 30, 2015, 07:54:46 am
The plugin is working fine but I am getting a "can't detect device" on the devices and dashboard.  I am running UI7.
Is there a fix or is this a call to support?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on July 30, 2015, 08:33:45 am
The plugin is working fine but I am getting a "can't detect device" on the devices and dashboard.  I am running UI7.
Is there a fix or is this a call to support?

There was no fix last I heard or before I realized I needed to remove cameras from VERA.

You can call support but haven't heard that they can do anything about it.

Most people are not using the dashboard and ignore the false errors which also happen on other plugins that mimic a device but not pass the poll check as a real device.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on July 30, 2015, 08:57:12 am
The "can't detect" error is making the camera's not show on the Vera Mobile beta app. Which is a pain. Also, it only shows them in frame by frame mode and not streaming as it is supposed to be able to do now. I'm hoping the plugin gets fixed in the near future. It's not causing issues on either my UI5 or my Ui7 Vera 3's with about 10 cameras...

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: swfire271 on July 30, 2015, 09:02:35 am
The plugin is working fine but I am getting a "can't detect device" on the devices and dashboard.  I am running UI7.
Is there a fix or is this a call to support?

I might be wrong, but I have a foscam that keeps dropping my wifi connection due to the distance between it and my router, when this happens I get the red 'sad' house on my dashboard....what has been working for me is to go under the camera settings, then advanced settings, then variables, and change the CommFailure from -1 to 0....after this takes effect in a min or so it changes to 'Your installation is Ok' and the green smiley house on my dashboard comes back.  :)
Title: Re: migration from BI3 to BI4
Post by: inexodus on August 03, 2015, 10:00:33 pm
Thank you!   I had to set authentication on the web server tab to "non-Lan only" and now it works perfectly.  Hope that helps someone else also.

Thanks for the tip :D
I was stuck at the same point, but I still want authentication for LAN users.  I unchecked the Secure Only option next to the Authentication pulldown, which lets Blue Iris accept the URL format this plugin uses with the login in the URL, and now it works.  I also made a special LAN Only, non-admin account for Vera instead of letting it store my primary admin account password.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: petewill on August 10, 2015, 03:19:11 pm
I just purchased a Lenovo TS140 Xeon X3-1225 server (desktop form factor) for Blue Iris. They go on sale every now and then. I picked one up for $270 with 4GB but no HD or OS. Idling, these only take 17W and with 3 or 4 HD's they use less than 100W when the drives are active. The PSU is rated 280W and built to run 24/7/365. This puppy is also whisper quiet. There is also an I3 version which goes on sale around 200 regularly and should be able to handle 4 HD cameras. I wanted the Xeon as it's more powerful and I have about 10 cameras.

@BOFH, how is the server working for you?  I have been watching newegg ever since I saw your post and I finally saw something similar (at least I think) pop up on newegg flash.  Do you think this is a good deal? http://flash.newegg.com/Product/N82E16859108077

I am hoping to use less power and be able to add more cameras.  I currently am using about 200 watts and have 6 cameras connected.  Ideally I'd also use this as a media server as well.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on August 10, 2015, 03:45:48 pm
I just purchased a Lenovo TS140 Xeon X3-1225 server (desktop form factor) for Blue Iris. They go on sale every now and then. I picked one up for $270 with 4GB but no HD or OS. Idling, these only take 17W and with 3 or 4 HD's they use less than 100W when the drives are active. The PSU is rated 280W and built to run 24/7/365. This puppy is also whisper quiet. There is also an I3 version which goes on sale around 200 regularly and should be able to handle 4 HD cameras. I wanted the Xeon as it's more powerful and I have about 10 cameras.

@BOFH, how is the server working for you?  I have been watching newegg ever since I saw your post and I finally saw something similar (at least I think) pop up on newegg flash.  Do you think this is a good deal? http://flash.newegg.com/Product/N82E16859108077

I am hoping to use less power and be able to add more cameras.  I currently am using about 200 watts and have 6 cameras connected.  Ideally I'd also use this as a media server as well.

I would also be curious, these are way under spec'd for multiple cameras especially for 3MP cameras.

I'm looking to build another box for (9) 3MP Hikvisions that I have installed. But I'm looking for i7 SSD and such. 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on August 10, 2015, 03:52:30 pm
I just picked up another TS140 3 days ago of ebay for $285 with 1225 V3 Xeon and 500GB HD. Going to replace my aging workstation box with it. Can you tell I'm impressed with this puppy? ;) Especially at the price I paid for them

The Lenovo uses the Xeon 1225 v3 3.20GHz which is somewhat like an I5 on steroids but not quite an I7. I'm up to 14 camera's at this time as I purchased a few more 720P models to replace older 640x480 models. I added them to torture test BI and I'm happy to say even with this load it stays between 35 and 45% and the TS140 happily streams a 720P MKV to my WD Live at the same time. Granted, I use an SSD to save the camera streams to. Seeying it is a server that's on 24/7 I don't see the need for an OS SSD though. I don't have any 3MP camera's so I can't determine the load they would place on this setup. I did notice the new 64bit v4 of BI is a little less of a CPU hog than the old v3 was.

Not familiar with that HP but it uses a 1220 v3 AT 3.1 GHz.  CPU Boss comparison (http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Xeon-E3-1225-v3-vs-Intel-Xeon-E3-1220) It is as such a bit less powerful.

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: petewill on August 10, 2015, 07:40:35 pm
Dang, I wish I saw that sale.  I have been keeping an eye out ever since your first post but I was just watching newegg.  The lower power consumption really appeals to me.  I am running BI on an old (free) Q6600 processor and it loves power...  My electric bill went up $10 a month having that computer always on.

I am running 6 cameras (3 are 3MP Dahua) and it has been running at about 50-60% processor for over a year without issue. So, hopefully the TS140 will be able to run a few more cameras for cheaper.  I keep wondering if I should even bother upgrading since the previous hardware was free so I'm still ahead even with the higher electric bill.  The thing that makes me want to do it is I want to install a new OS and I'd prefer not to do it twice if I do end up getting a new computer.  I also want to upgrade to the new version of blue iris.  I guess I'll keep watching for sales...
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on August 10, 2015, 07:52:43 pm
The TS140 1225 v3 Xeon goes on sale about once every 4 to 6  months. Keep an eye on Newegg as well as eBay. I got mine from AntOnline through eBay. It's actually been on sale 2 times in 2 weeks. Newegg had it on sale on eBay as well about 10 days ago but sold out 800 units in 30 minutes. I missed that one but got lucky on the AntOnline one as they had far more units available. There is a reason people are snapping these up when they go sub $300. And not just for server use. They make great work stations unless you are a hardcore gamer.

And yes, I've noticed reduced energy usage after I switched off the old Phenom II based WHS2011 server that ran BI 3 when I brough the TS140 online to replace it.

It's sitting under my desk on my left and it's dead silent. My old Phenom II work station on the right however is pretty loud fan wise. Soon there will be blessed quiet as it's replacement TS140 just got delivered. As did the 16GB additional RAM I got for it.
 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: petewill on August 11, 2015, 09:23:00 am
@BOFH thanks.  I'll keep looking.  Glad it's working out for you!
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tb001 on August 11, 2015, 01:36:45 pm
Just a suggestion, but wonder if it makes sense to try to get a sub forum for this plugin. I saw one created for altUI and there was a reference there to a thread needing to be over 400 (?not positive on the number) replies to meet the threshold. Love the plugin!
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on August 11, 2015, 08:19:51 pm
It would need the author/maintaining to request and moderate it and he's not been around in quite a while...
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tb001 on August 11, 2015, 09:28:35 pm
It would need the author/maintaining to request and moderate it and he's not been around in quite a while...

Ah, good point. I suppose the upside of the plugin is that it's working so well that I haven't needed to come back and dig through the thread, so hadn't realized he wasn't around!
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: dboytim on August 18, 2015, 08:11:10 am
Couple quick BI questions...

Currently have a single foscam C1. If I was running BI and the plugin, can I have scenes trigger audio files to play through the camera's speaker?

If you buy the $30 single camera version of BI, can you upgrade it later to the full version or should I buy the full one to start?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on August 18, 2015, 09:43:10 am
Unsure about the audio files, but the full liscese can be had on ebay for 40.00. I would go that route I just did another one last week.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: dboytim on August 18, 2015, 10:10:42 am
Thanks for the deal heads up :) I'll check it out there.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on August 18, 2015, 07:26:24 pm
Thanks for the deal heads up :) I'll check it out there.

I have used them more then once. Last week I bought from this guy

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Blue-Iris-Pro-v4-0-Latest-Video-Camera-Security-Software-Full-Life-License-/121675696260?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

I offered 40.00 and it was automatically accepted instantly, so you might try even lower first. I ordered in early am and my serial key was sent later that afternoon despite the "instant" ad. Everything has worked and been good. As always you can download the software from BI website and use a free 30 day trial before or during this time.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Viruta57 on August 31, 2015, 03:55:36 pm
I have done an update of my Blue Iris today... and I can not connect my camera anymore... Is there a link between the two..?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on August 31, 2015, 03:59:13 pm
I have done an update of my Blue Iris today... and I can not connect my camera anymore... Is there a link between the two..?

What kind of update? Major from version 3 to version 4 or one of the minor updates?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Viruta57 on August 31, 2015, 03:59:58 pm
From version 4
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on August 31, 2015, 04:23:03 pm
Make sure anonymous access on LAN is allowed. That setting may have changed during the upgrade.

Can you view the camera via the same URL in your browser?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Viruta57 on August 31, 2015, 04:40:08 pm
I can see them from my browser.... Safari on my Mac
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on August 31, 2015, 06:27:29 pm
From version 4

From version 4.X to version 4.X I haven't heard or seen any issues yet. I know I took that update last night.   

The issues BOFH and myself were thinking of was going from the older version 3 moving to the new Version 4. There was some settings that got changed or need to be changed and that was discussed several pages back when version 4 just came out.

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Viruta57 on August 31, 2015, 07:36:26 pm
Hi all,

I'm trying to setup the BI plugin on my edge.  The ip, username, password and camera name are all displaying on the advanced tab.  I restarted the vera engine several times but still no image.  Is there anyway to get more information on what the error would be?

Thanks.

Well I got it to work.  I had authentication required for all connections and secure only checked.  I unchecked secure only and now I am getting an image in vera.  Is there a way to configure the BI plugin to work when secure only is checked?

I would also like the same info, I thought using the user and password would take of these issues but there is something else going on.

Since the BI mobile apps can login when secure only is checked, the BI plugin for Vera should be able to do something similar.  We just need to convince someone to implement it  ;D

I finally find it here.... It was my mistake... I did change the set-up after I updated today...
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on September 01, 2015, 09:52:01 am
From version 4

From version 4.X to version 4.X I haven't heard or seen any issues yet. I know I took that update last night.   

The issues BOFH and myself were thinking of was going from the older version 3 moving to the new Version 4. There was some settings that got changed or need to be changed and that was discussed several pages back when version 4 just came out.

I had same problem going to newest 4.x.  weirdly a restart solved it.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Mitch on October 02, 2015, 08:36:58 am
I have this plug-in working on UI7.  However, in the Dashboard it shows "3 devices are no longer connected" and in the device list each camera shows "Can't Detect Device" in red even though it shows the camera images.

Any ideas on how to get this fixed so that it doesn't report that as an issue?

Thanks

Mitch

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on October 02, 2015, 10:45:08 am
I have this plug-in working on UI7.  However, in the Dashboard it shows "3 devices are no longer connected" and in the device list each camera shows "Can't Detect Device" in red even though it shows the camera images.

Any ideas on how to get this fixed so that it doesn't report that as an issue?

Thanks

Mitch

It's been a long standing issue with no resolution. You can get it to go off for a short time by changing the configured tab in the advanced menu, but it will return. It's not only this plugin that has the red error.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Mitch on October 05, 2015, 01:51:26 pm
Ok, I downloaded the I_BlueIris.xml from git and added 'luup.set_failure(false)' to the end of the startup function.

I uploaded my version of this file as 'I_BlueIris_custom.xml' and pointed the devices to use that implementation file.

Everything seems to be working good now and I don't have that constant indication of an error now.

Edit: Added attachment
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on October 05, 2015, 02:58:23 pm
Cool! Could you share that file? Attach it to your post perhaps for the rest of us?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Mitch on October 06, 2015, 08:20:26 am
Added file to previous post
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on October 06, 2015, 08:38:24 am
Thank You! That should make the Vera apps behave a bit better hopefully where BI camera's are concerned.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: endingstrife on October 13, 2015, 08:52:44 pm
I just set up Blue Iris with this plugin and everything seems to work great... for the most part. For whatever reason, I can't get the motion sensors to sense motion. I followed the github directions to the T and when I click "test" on BI, the motion sensor shows that it's tripped on Vera, however, when I actually try to trip it via actual motion, it doesn't trip. I have another motion sensor in the same room that does trip, so I know it should see me. This is on a VeraEdge with the latest UI7 update.

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on October 13, 2015, 09:47:48 pm
I just set up Blue Iris with this plugin and everything seems to work great... for the most part. For whatever reason, I can't get the motion sensors to sense motion. I followed the github directions to the T and when I click "test" on BI, the motion sensor shows that it's tripped on Vera, however, when I actually try to trip it via actual motion, it doesn't trip. I have another motion sensor in the same room that does trip, so I know it should see me. This is on a VeraEdge with the latest UI7 update.

Any suggestions?

If it works when you press test but not when you let Bi detect motion, then your problem is with your blue iris settings. Check that you have your current profile to detect motion and that you have it to send an alert on each motion and that the alert is check to send http command.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Aaron on October 13, 2015, 11:48:37 pm
Anyone get this working with Samsung SmartCams?  I have 6 of these, and one Foscam... would love this to work for me :)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on October 14, 2015, 12:17:29 am
Anyone get this working with Samsung SmartCams?  I have 6 of these, and one Foscam... would love this to work for me :)

Is this what your looking for?

Quote
The thing I was really interested in was using the camera with the Blue Iris software running on my Windows computer. After some experimentation, I found the setting on Blue Iris that gave 1080p streaming at 15fps. Set the Make/model in Blue Iris as Samsung SND-1080, SNH, ... RTSP. Then change the video path as /profile5/media.smp and leave the other parameters as is. "

http://reviews.costco.com/2070/100155236/samsung-opto-electronics-samsung-smartcam-hd-1080p-wi-fi-ip-monitoring-camera-reviews/reviews.htm?sort=helpfulness
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Aaron on October 14, 2015, 12:22:56 am
I have the cams working great in blue iris, but can't figure out how to make this plug in work

Sent from my HTC6525LVW using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on October 14, 2015, 10:49:00 am
I have the cams working great in blue iris, but can't figure out how to make this plug in work

Sent from my HTC6525LVW using Tapatalk

Not sure where your issue is as we need more info, but your post specifically asked about the plugin and Samsung cameras. The plugin grabs the image from BI so as long as the feed is in BI it doesn't matter what type of camera it is. If your not getting an image in VERA then there could be a whole list of problems that would be documented in the instructions. Most common problem is probley checking the secure only tab in the BLUE iris options under web server, which doesn't allow vera to get the info from your server.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Aaron on October 14, 2015, 12:39:48 pm
I figured it out... The default device shows screen with all the cams (I have 9 cams on a single screen)... I watched the video and found all we need to do is change the Camera Name to set to a single cam. ... working now :)

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on October 14, 2015, 02:22:26 pm
I figured it out... The default device shows screen with all the cams (I have 9 cams on a single screen)... I watched the video and found all we need to do is change the Camera Name to set to a single cam. ... working now :)

Yup short camera name needs to be used. Index is the default for all cameras.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: GasPath on October 15, 2015, 12:02:59 am
I've struggled to get this working. I'm on firmware 1.7.690 and it doesn't match up with the instructions on Github and my inability to properly locate everything is likely the failure. The camername that the instructions mention can only be found by going to "Settings" then Advance, and selecting the second tab called Variable. I found a "CameraName" variable there and used it so set my camera using the short name. Back out to the main camera page everything here seems pretty straight forward.  One thing I should point out is that my BlueIris uses a user/pass but so do my cameras. I'm not sure where I put the camera specific user/pass. On this main page, I assume it wants the BlueIris user/pass, and the IP and Port of the BlueIris DVR. So that is done, but I've got this feeling that without a place to enter the cameras specific user/pass this isn't going to work. Thanks for any assistance.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on October 15, 2015, 08:23:06 am
The plugin only talks to BI and not to the camera's. BI is what talks to the camera's and as such it needs the camera passwords. The plugin only needs the BI password. But make sure that BI allows anon access for the LAN as the plugin and BI don't like to communicate if authentication is set in BI.

Note regarding the camera name. There is several places it is used under Variables. Verify the below 3 variables use the correct camera name (Which is the short name in BI)

DirectStreamingURL

CameraName

URL
 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: dannieboiz on October 23, 2015, 12:05:18 am
Has anyone successfully get PIR function to work with scenes to turn on lights and off?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on October 23, 2015, 09:46:47 am
Has anyone successfully get PIR function to work with scenes to turn on lights and off?

I assume you are referring to the motion sensing capability and tying it to Vera functions.

I have my BI set up to set Rex's Virtual Motion Sensor, one for each configured camera. Right now I have a PLEG st up to process these sensors and send notifications using email/SMS  and messages to Imperihome to change pages and announce the camera that was tripped. I do not currently use it to switch on lights, etc.

A word of caution, the developer has recently changed some of the motion detection functionality and in my case i still have not been able to configure the BI motion detection settings to avoid false triggers, almost all at dawn and dusk. I've been "fiddling" for a week now and still get  way too many false triggers on about half the outside cameras around sunrise and again around sunset. The range of possible adjustments is significant including size and contrast, degree of motion in pixels, whether the camera is High Def, process out shadows or not, etc. And with this range of flexibility i'm sure i can get rid of the false triggers but its going to take some time :)

regardless of all this, it is quite easy to configure BI <=> Vera to control and report and works quite well.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on October 23, 2015, 09:56:14 am
Has anyone successfully get PIR function to work with scenes to turn on lights and off?

I assume you are referring to the motion sensing capability and tying it to Vera functions.

I have my BI set up to set Rex's Virtual Motion Sensor, one for each configured camera. Right now I have a PLEG st up to process these sensors and send notifications using email/SMS  and messages to Imperihome to change pages and announce the camera that was tripped. I do not currently use it to switch on lights, etc.

A word of caution, the developer has recently changed some of the motion detection functionality and in my case i still have not been able to configure the BI motion detection settings to avoid false triggers, almost all at dawn and dusk. I've been "fiddling" for a week now and still get  way too many false triggers on about half the outside cameras around sunrise and again around sunset. The range of possible adjustments is significant including size and contrast, degree of motion in pixels, whether the camera is High Def, process out shadows or not, etc. And with this range of flexibility i'm sure i can get rid of the false triggers but its going to take some time :)

regardless of all this, it is quite easy to configure BI <=> Vera to control and report and works quite well.

I also do the same as above and don't use this plugin.

Clippermiami,

The recent BI update has also reacked havoc on my setup. I have downgraded back to 4.1.9.0 and turned off automatic updates for now. I have sent numerous emails to Ken at BI and he seems to think the first update was bad, but his recent fixes have corrected it. I keep trying to tell him NO! Maybe you need to email him too at support.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on October 23, 2015, 11:15:58 am
Has anyone successfully get PIR function to work with scenes to turn on lights and off?

I assume you are referring to the motion sensing capability and tying it to Vera functions.

I have my BI set up to set Rex's Virtual Motion Sensor, one for each configured camera. Right now I have a PLEG st up to process these sensors and send notifications using email/SMS  and messages to Imperihome to change pages and announce the camera that was tripped. I do not currently use it to switch on lights, etc.

A word of caution, the developer has recently changed some of the motion detection functionality and in my case i still have not been able to configure the BI motion detection settings to avoid false triggers, almost all at dawn and dusk. I've been "fiddling" for a week now and still get  way too many false triggers on about half the outside cameras around sunrise and again around sunset. The range of possible adjustments is significant including size and contrast, degree of motion in pixels, whether the camera is High Def, process out shadows or not, etc. And with this range of flexibility i'm sure i can get rid of the false triggers but its going to take some time :)

regardless of all this, it is quite easy to configure BI <=> Vera to control and report and works quite well.

I also do the same as above and don't use this plugin.

Clippermiami,

The recent BI update has also reacked havoc on my setup. I have downgraded back to 4.1.9.0 and turned off automatic updates for now. I have sent numerous emails to Ken at BI and he seems to think the first update was bad, but his recent fixes have corrected it. I keep trying to tell him NO! Maybe you need to email him too at support.

There was another BI update this morning to 4.2.2.5 with yet more corrections to the motion detection handling. This morning i set all my cameras to motion detection during the day (motion detection had only been active at night or when the DSC was armed) so that I could try to sort out the changes necessary. I got dozens of false hits this morning and made more adjustments. I have not had a false it for some 30 minutes now (fingers/eyes/toes crossed) but it is full daylight here now so I may have just over-corrected. I'll have to wait for dusk to be sure to see if I even get ANY motion triggers now. I'll make a circuit of the house this evening to see if my mass will trigger motion --- hopefully I won't arouse the interests of my neighbors and thus the local constabulary :)

As to the use of the plug in I ran without it for a while but ended up putting it back if for no reason other than  ImperiHome. Imperihome obviously allows the direct access to the BI cameras using HTTP but I found two things: 1) Camera configuration was just so much cleaner by selecting the device in ImperiHome rather than configuring each camera by http; 2) I was having a lot of partial/dropped frames with IM usng the direct BI camera access. Putting the plug in back and selecting the camera using IM's devices list stopped both problems. Maybe just cosmetic but I like it.

So for "dannieboiz" YES, "integlikewhoa" is absolutely correct you do not need the Plug In to properly connect BI <=> Vera and make use of all the controls and status. I just found it a little "cleaner" and more convenient for me. Your mileage may vary, batteries not included, some assembly required.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on October 23, 2015, 03:14:10 pm
There was another BI update this morning to 4.2.2.5 with yet more corrections to the motion detection handling. This morning i set all my cameras to motion detection during the day (motion detection had only been active at night or when the DSC was armed) so that I could try to sort out the changes necessary. I got dozens of false hits this morning and made more adjustments. I have not had a false it for some 30 minutes now (fingers/eyes/toes crossed) but it is full daylight here now so I may have just over-corrected. I'll have to wait for dusk to be sure to see if I even get ANY motion triggers now. I'll make a circuit of the house this evening to see if my mass will trigger motion --- hopefully I won't arouse the interests of my neighbors and thus the local constabulary :)

4.2.2.5 was out yesterday mid day or earlier. I played with that yesterday and wasn't as bad but still had issues in the evening. I didn't give it much more then an hour of darkness and I wanted a restless night. I downgraded before going to bed. 

Let me know what your finding are tonight on 4.2.2.5
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on October 23, 2015, 03:41:25 pm
There was another BI update this morning to 4.2.2.5 with yet more corrections to the motion detection handling. This morning i set all my cameras to motion detection during the day (motion detection had only been active at night or when the DSC was armed) so that I could try to sort out the changes necessary. I got dozens of false hits this morning and made more adjustments. I have not had a false it for some 30 minutes now (fingers/eyes/toes crossed) but it is full daylight here now so I may have just over-corrected. I'll have to wait for dusk to be sure to see if I even get ANY motion triggers now. I'll make a circuit of the house this evening to see if my mass will trigger motion --- hopefully I won't arouse the interests of my neighbors and thus the local constabulary :)

4.2.2.5 was out yesterday mid day or earlier. I played with that yesterday and wasn't as bad but still had issues in the evening. I didn't give it much more then an hour of darkness and I wanted a restless night. I downgraded before going to bed. 

Let me know what your finding are tonight on 4.2.2.5

I had a rash of false triggers on one camera mid day for some reason so I adjusted some more parameters and I await the results. Its gone dark here but because the rain has rolled in, dusk is another few hours away yet.

There appears to be a lot of interplay between the settings. I ran the object detection setting up to 200 pixels at one point and still got false triggers even though the wind was barely rustling the leaves. So by itself that doesn't appear to be able to stop false triggers. I had set a Hot Spot on one camera under 4.2.2.0 to just cover the window and I still got triggers and when I checked the hot spot under 4.2.2.5 it wasn't anywhere near where I set it :)


We shall see.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on October 23, 2015, 04:25:31 pm
There was another BI update this morning to 4.2.2.5 with yet more corrections to the motion detection handling. This morning i set all my cameras to motion detection during the day (motion detection had only been active at night or when the DSC was armed) so that I could try to sort out the changes necessary. I got dozens of false hits this morning and made more adjustments. I have not had a false it for some 30 minutes now (fingers/eyes/toes crossed) but it is full daylight here now so I may have just over-corrected. I'll have to wait for dusk to be sure to see if I even get ANY motion triggers now. I'll make a circuit of the house this evening to see if my mass will trigger motion --- hopefully I won't arouse the interests of my neighbors and thus the local constabulary :)

4.2.2.5 was out yesterday mid day or earlier. I played with that yesterday and wasn't as bad but still had issues in the evening. I didn't give it much more then an hour of darkness and I wanted a restless night. I downgraded before going to bed. 

Let me know what your finding are tonight on 4.2.2.5

I had a rash of false triggers on one camera mid day for some reason so I adjusted some more parameters and I await the results. Its gone dark here but because the rain has rolled in, dusk is another few hours away yet.

There appears to be a lot of interplay between the settings. I ran the object detection setting up to 200 pixels at one point and still got false triggers even though the wind was barely rustling the leaves. So by itself that doesn't appear to be able to stop false triggers. I had set a Hot Spot on one camera under 4.2.2.0 to just cover the window and I still got triggers and when I checked the hot spot under 4.2.2.5 it wasn't anywhere near where I set it :)


We shall see.

After that do some walking test. I had to adjust mine for far off that even after I walked threw the cameras at a distance I wouldn't detect me.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on October 23, 2015, 09:37:07 pm
Just FYI. i'm having similar problems all the sudden, mainly with lights reflecting on the window of my front door where the camera is pointed.  Never happened before. AND, I didn't even ask to upgrade.   Must have done it automatically...

Not home yet, but will check this weekend.  driving me nuts.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on October 23, 2015, 09:46:55 pm
It APPEARS that I may have put a stop to the false triggers .. But I did a walk around this evening and it appears I've also put a stoop to any triggers  :)

Back to the drawing board tomorrow
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on October 25, 2015, 02:13:55 am
Just FYI. i'm having similar problems all the sudden, mainly with lights reflecting on the window of my front door where the camera is pointed.  Never happened before. AND, I didn't even ask to upgrade.   Must have done it automatically...

Not home yet, but will check this weekend.  driving me nuts.


Auto update probley checked
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on October 25, 2015, 02:16:32 am
It APPEARS that I may have put a stop to the false triggers .. But I did a walk around this evening and it appears I've also put a stoop to any triggers  :)

Back to the drawing board tomorrow

Did you see they released another version? I haven't even tried it yet (still on old working version) but I know what you mean about stoping triggers. I had to adjust so far out to stop the false triggers that the same thing happened to me. So for the recent updates have been the worse in my few year history with BI. I never had to turn off auto updates and hold back.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on October 25, 2015, 09:16:39 am
It APPEARS that I may have put a stop to the false triggers .. But I did a walk around this evening and it appears I've also put a stoop to any triggers  :)

Back to the drawing board tomorrow

Did you see they released another version? I haven't even tried it yet (still on old working version) but I know what you mean about stoping triggers. I had to adjust so far out to stop the false triggers that the same thing happened to me. So for the recent updates have been the worse in my few year history with BI. I never had to turn off auto updates and hold back.

I think I was successful in stopping the false triggers at dawn and dusk. I did a walk around last night and was able to adjust the night profiles to trigger in all but three cases, two on the patio and one outside the living room. I kept getting indications of motion sensing but it refused to trigger.

The outside living room one is interesting because this morning I awoke to find a triggered video at that location and the trigger was a local cat, maybe 15 pounds. Yet I was unable to get it to trigger and I am a tad over 15 pounds :)

Still more work to do. I may stop the auto updates this morning until I get this last batch squared away.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on October 25, 2015, 06:00:00 pm
I downloaded and installed the latest release from today 2.2.6. I did have to fiddle the settings again during the day but it wasn't too bad. Another walk around tonight I think.

This isn't the place but I'd like to find some forum that talks about the BI settings and the whole motion detection business. BI is great but the documentation for recent changes is thin


Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on October 25, 2015, 06:58:15 pm
Ask and yea shall receive. ;) https://www.ipcamtalk.com/forumdisplay.php/56-Blue-Iris (https://www.ipcamtalk.com/forumdisplay.php/56-Blue-Iris) should get you started.

It looks like the other BI forum site http://cam-it.org (http://cam-it.org) is down. At least I can't reach it.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on October 25, 2015, 07:37:39 pm
Ask and yea shall receive. ;) https://www.ipcamtalk.com/forumdisplay.php/56-Blue-Iris (https://www.ipcamtalk.com/forumdisplay.php/56-Blue-Iris) should get you started.

It looks like the other BI forum site http://cam-it.org (http://cam-it.org) is down. At least I can't reach it.

Thanks, looks like what Jim looking for. One pissing mentions using BIs scheduling for night and day, I've been trying to figure out how I was going to handle settings for ARMED HOME day versus night.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on October 25, 2015, 08:30:09 pm
Ask and yea shall receive. ;) https://www.ipcamtalk.com/forumdisplay.php/56-Blue-Iris (https://www.ipcamtalk.com/forumdisplay.php/56-Blue-Iris) should get you started.

It looks like the other BI forum site http://cam-it.org (http://cam-it.org) is down. At least I can't reach it.

Thanks, looks like what Jim looking for. One pissing mentions using BIs scheduling for night and day, I've been trying to figure out how I was going to handle settings for ARMED HOME day versus night.

I already do this. I have 4 schedules in BlueIris. HomeDay HomeNight AwayDay and AwayNight. PLEG home and away setting along with day and night settings in PLEG send a HTTP command to BI to switch and HOLD.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on October 25, 2015, 08:30:47 pm
@clippermiami: Am I correct in assuming you posted the above from your smartphone or tablet? Gotta love predictive auto correct... ;)

Glad I could be of help tho.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on October 25, 2015, 08:34:55 pm
@clippermiami: Am I correct in assuming you posted the above from your smartphone or tablet? Gotta love predictive auto correct... ;)

Glad I could be of help tho.

Yeah ☺ In reading it now it makes no sense 😬
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on October 25, 2015, 08:39:53 pm
Ask and yea shall receive. ;) https://www.ipcamtalk.com/forumdisplay.php/56-Blue-Iris (https://www.ipcamtalk.com/forumdisplay.php/56-Blue-Iris) should get you started.

It looks like the other BI forum site http://cam-it.org (http://cam-it.org) is down. At least I can't reach it.

Thanks, looks like what Jim looking for. One pissing mentions using BIs scheduling for night and day, I've been trying to figure out how I was going to handle settings for ARMED HOME day versus night.

I already do this. I have 4 schedules in BlueIris. HomeDay HomeNight AwayDay and AwayNight. PLEG home and away setting along with day and night settings in PLEG send a HTTP command to BI to switch and HOLD.

I'll try to do better this time ☺ Right now I have Five Profiles: Normal Day, Normal Night, Armed Away, Armed Home, and Alarm Violated. If I'm going to use camera motion sensing I'm going to have something like what you are doing. Are these Profiles or Schedules?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on October 25, 2015, 08:43:18 pm
I'll try to do better this time ☺ Right now I have Five Profiles: Normal Day, Normal Night, Armed Away, Armed Home, and Alarm Violated. If I'm going to use camera motion sensing I'm going to have something like what you are doing. Are these Profiles or Schedules?

Sorry, these are Profiles.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on October 26, 2015, 03:00:16 pm
Here's what I've done:
Relabeled Profiles and reconfigured cameras and their active profiles
Profile 1: Alarm Armed Away Day
Profile 2: Alarm Armed Away Night
Profile 3: Alarm Armed Home Day
Profile 4: Alarm Armed Home Night
Profile 5: Alarm Violated

Added Conditions/Actions to PLEG for ArmedAwayDay, ArmedAwayNight, ArmedHomeDay, and ArmedHomeNight to set the appropriate profile

Confirmed that a change from Day to Night changes the BI Profile as expected.

Changed Actions in PLEG for AlarmDisarm to set BI to Profile 0 (Inactive

So far it appears the logic is working as expected.

I've adjusted the Motion Sensing parameters for the various profiles to meet the day and night values determined over the last few days/nights of experimentation. But I'm still dissatisfied with the motion sensing reliability. Again this morning a neighborhood cat tripped the sensing on a camera that I have been unable to get to trigger for me.



Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Aaron on October 26, 2015, 03:07:10 pm
I haven't set up profiles yet.
How do you guys deal with sunrise/sunset shifts? Where I live the sunset/sunrise light levels change dramatically and I don't want to keep moving around the profile start and end times.

Sent from my HTC6525LVW using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on October 26, 2015, 04:20:20 pm
I haven't set up profiles yet.
How do you guys deal with sunrise/sunset shifts? Where I live the sunset/sunrise light levels change dramatically and I don't want to keep moving around the profile start and end times.

Sent from my HTC6525LVW using Tapatalk

VERA day and night plugin. Vera sends http command to change profiles based on that and home away in PLEG.

Just so you know BlueIris has a built in sunrise and sunset check everyday and you can also have Blueiris chage profiles based on sunrise and sunset. But then I can do the same so easy with home and away. So I just have PLEG do everything.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on October 26, 2015, 05:49:37 pm
I haven't set up profiles yet.
How do you guys deal with sunrise/sunset shifts? Where I live the sunset/sunrise light levels change dramatically and I don't want to keep moving around the profile start and end times.

Sent from my HTC6525LVW using Tapatalk

I have a Day/Night schedule in PLEG. It sets a Virtual Switch that's used by all the other functions. If you find it necessary you can set the schedule for Sunrise/Sunset +/- HH:M:SS to tweak the time
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on October 27, 2015, 12:50:09 am
I downloaded and installed the latest release from today 2.2.6. I did have to fiddle the settings again during the day but it wasn't too bad. Another walk around tonight I think.

This isn't the place but I'd like to find some forum that talks about the BI settings and the whole motion detection business. BI is great but the documentation for recent changes is thin

Well with a new release everyday or two a day........ The latest being 4.2.3.1 are we any better?

I have probley skipped 4 or 5 updates now since I rolled backwards to 4.1.9.2. I'm afraid of being up all night with false triggers on my phone going off. Let me know if things have mellowed out where I can still get real triggers and not get false triggers
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on October 27, 2015, 08:42:22 am
I downloaded and installed the latest release from today 2.2.6. I did have to fiddle the settings again during the day but it wasn't too bad. Another walk around tonight I think.

This isn't the place but I'd like to find some forum that talks about the BI settings and the whole motion detection business. BI is great but the documentation for recent changes is thin

Well with a new release everyday or two a day........ The latest being 4.2.3.1 are we any better?

I have probley skipped 4 or 5 updates now since I rolled backwards to 4.1.9.2. I'm afraid of being up all night with false triggers on my phone going off. Let me know if things have mellowed out where I can still get real triggers and not get false triggers

I'm still on 4.2.2.6. The What's New of 4.2.3.1 says "View clip upload and convert queues, MP4/AAC audio encoding fix, other enhancements and fixes." It doesn't mention motion detection so maybe there are no changes.

My new day/night configuration worked as planned overnight. I armed the DSC last night and Vera set BI Profile 2, Armed Home Night. This morning when I got up and checked Vera had switched it to Armed Home Day as intended.

I had two clearly false triggers both just after sunrise when the day mode set and both due to what appears to me to be changes in contrast as the daylight begins to cover the areas. Tonight I will probably do another walk around to test the trip situation in the dark.

I plan to ask Ken if it wouldn't be possible to have BI include in its Alert message the cause of the motion detection, i.e. size, contrast, pixel motion, etc., in an effort to allow better setup and tuning.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Aaron on October 27, 2015, 06:30:32 pm
I'm still on 4.0.3.1 ... I don't update unless there is something compelling to do so.  Anything I'm missing not upgrading?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on October 27, 2015, 06:35:58 pm
I'm still on 4.0.3.1 ... I don't update unless there is something compelling to do so.  Anything I'm missing not upgrading?

There is a bunch of little things, but only you know if you want to try them or pass on them.

http://blueirissoftware.com/updates/
https://www.ipcamtalk.com/forumdisplay.php/27-What-s-New

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Arjan on December 18, 2015, 06:25:42 pm
I used to have this working but since the last update I get this error message:

You are seeing the video in emulation mode. The camera doesn't support or has trouble loading up the continuous streaming. You can try to load it again by clicking Retry or you can click Close and continue watching it as it is.

The camera works fine in Blue Iris,

Any thoughts?

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: wezley69 on December 18, 2015, 06:31:15 pm
@Arjan are you using the Blue Iris plugin?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Puddl3Jump3r on December 18, 2015, 08:16:35 pm
I used to have this working but since the last update I get this error message:

You are seeing the video in emulation mode. The camera doesn't support or has trouble loading up the continuous streaming. You can try to load it again by clicking Retry or you can click Close and continue watching it as it is.

The camera works fine in Blue Iris,

Any thoughts?

New user and install, same issue. VeraEdge. Blue Iris works fine on it's own and is setup. BI plugin is installed in Vera. Device is created as per instructions. Won't connect in Vera.

Figured it out.
Changed Blue Iris's Web Server Authentication to `Non-Lan Only` and it worked.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Arjan on December 18, 2015, 10:14:18 pm
yes I am
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Arjan on December 19, 2015, 11:20:11 am
Can this have something to do with the output from Blue Iris (http://192.168.0.6:81/jpegpull.htm)  being a video file, If I set up a new camera and direct it to the blue iris image file it works but without any of the PTZ or preset controls (http://192.168.0.6:81/image/Garage)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on December 19, 2015, 01:02:32 pm
That is not a BI issue but a bug in the latest Vera firmware. Which hopefully gets fixed in the next iteration. It's a warning message more than an error one.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Arjan on December 19, 2015, 05:02:10 pm
@BOFH, it's more then a warning message ( I get these as well since the last update) but the problem is no image at all, just a gray screen with this warning message
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on December 19, 2015, 07:42:31 pm
I run the latest BI version but not the latest UI7 version (1.7.649 ) and I have no problems with the plug-in. The last couple of updates have generated to many 'this isn't working correctly anymore' posts for me to consider upgrading at this time.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Arjan on December 19, 2015, 09:35:18 pm
I just deleted and re-installed all the blue iris files for the plugin and it is working again, somewhat..... I have 2 BI camera's. I changed the camera name(s) to the short name from blue iris but now I still get 2 camera images by side. of course the PTZ presets don't work either or maybe they need more time......

Update:
I also added a second camera at about the same time I updated the firmware, (Previously since I used only one camera Vera would display that camera by default) I followed the instructions carefully and changed the camera name to the BI short name under the advanced tab and that gave me 2 cameras side by side.....Today I found that there are 2 locations in the Advanced area where I could  change the camera name. Under the advanced tab there are 3 "sub" tabs Params, Variables and new service. the first tab that opens is Params and that is where I changed the camera name.... that doesn't do much besides renaming the device name in Vera... Changing the camera name under Variables did the trick.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on December 21, 2015, 01:07:24 pm
@clippermiami and @integlikewhoa .... you guys still on older versions?  I see 4.2.6.8 just out... wondering where you are and if you are still getting false triggers?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on December 21, 2015, 02:06:21 pm
@clippermiami and @integlikewhoa .... you guys still on older versions?  I see 4.2.6.8 just out... wondering where you are and if you are still getting false triggers?

I have the current version. I get false triggers but I suspect they are due to things that are impossible to eliminate --- shadows, changing light patterns at sunrise. I suspect no camera based motion detection can get rid of most of these
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on December 22, 2015, 12:28:22 pm
And yet I don't get any of those on the older version :-)

How does the geofencing work?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 23, 2015, 10:15:41 pm
At one house I'm current and at another house that has headlights on the front lawn at night I run version 4.1.9.

I wasn't able to control the false alerts at the one house only at night.

Geofence works great at both houses and I use BI geofence to trigger a multiswitch in VERA. It's one of the 3 devices I use to determine home and away without false tiggers. 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on December 26, 2015, 03:49:49 pm
I've been using BI and the Vera Plug in for a while now and I'm curious about something. When the Plug In configures itself it adds the values "q=80&s=80" to the camera config string after the camera name and before the username/password. Anyone know why? What they do?  ;D
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 26, 2015, 03:52:48 pm
I've been using BI and the Vera Plug in for a while now and I'm curious about something. When the Plug In configures itself it adds the values "q=80&s=80" to the camera config string after the camera name and before the username/password. Anyone know why? What they do?  ;D

Quality and Size

Q=%
S=%

It's to try and lower image size it has to keep transferring.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on December 26, 2015, 04:01:15 pm
I've been using BI and the Vera Plug in for a while now and I'm curious about something. When the Plug In configures itself it adds the values "q=80&s=80" to the camera config string after the camera name and before the username/password. Anyone know why? What they do?  ;D

Quality and Size

Q=%
S=%

It's to try and lower image size it has to keep transferring.

Thanks. DUH :)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on December 26, 2015, 04:03:45 pm
Thanks. DUH :)

So worries I use the same in my HTTP string when I use Imperihome to directly connect to BI for the cameras. That info can be found in the Blueiris PDF manual floating around I think. It speeds up Imperihome loading and streaming cameras when on 3G network.
Title: BI running on a Mac in a Windows Partition
Post by: RichardPHarvey on December 29, 2015, 12:44:01 pm
I think I have read somewhere that this is supported but has anyone actually done this.  I have a rather powerful new iMac that has a Windows 10 partition running under Parallels and would really like to leverage that machine as it runs 24x7 anyway.
Title: Re: BI running on a Mac in a Windows Partition
Post by: Pizza0ut on December 31, 2015, 12:05:45 pm
I think I have read somewhere that this is supported but has anyone actually done this.  I have a rather powerful new iMac that has a Windows 10 partition running under Parallels and would really like to leverage that machine as it runs 24x7 anyway.

So I'm doing something similar, I have an ESXi server with a Windows 7 guest VM running BlueIris V4 (64bit).
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Pizza0ut on December 31, 2015, 12:10:34 pm
HELP! 

For some reason all my cameras in Vera are now showing as "Not Connected".  I'm on the latest version of both Vera and BI.  I've tried removing and re-installing the BI plugin from Vera with no luck. I've also tried to downgrade BI with no luck.  I've also tested using the I_BlueIris_custom.xml that was attached to an earlier post.

The interesting thing is that the motion detectors work.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: eranfeit on February 15, 2016, 02:39:49 am
Hello,
I did all the instructions and created a camera device.
However, There is nt any image in the device.

The blue iris itself works fine.

can you give me directions how to overcome the problem ?

Eran
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: WhyMe on March 02, 2016, 04:07:19 pm
I'm getting the same Not Connected message. Any one solve this?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: wezley69 on March 02, 2016, 09:04:37 pm
Yeah hit hide and press on
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: eranfeit on March 03, 2016, 04:19:17 am
It is working now.
You should wait until you see the image.

retry it several times.

Eran
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: WhyMe on March 03, 2016, 08:17:12 am
Where is the hide and on button? Vera or BI?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: WhyMe on March 03, 2016, 10:07:16 am
Found the magic box. In BI 4, you have to disable the "Secure only" feature. Having this turned on (which it is by default) does not allow clear text which is how the BI plugin authenticates.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: WhyMe on March 03, 2016, 03:03:47 pm
New issue, when I set EnableMotionSensor to 1, Vera does not create a device for the motion sensor. Any clues?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 03, 2016, 03:27:16 pm
New issue, when I set EnableMotionSensor to 1, Vera does not create a device for the motion sensor. Any clues?

Reload luup and refresh page, My guess is the change is not saving and therefor not doing anything either. 

Also the Virtual motion Plugin and Blueiris without the blueiris Plugin in vera would give you the same results without bogging Vera down with camera images.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: WhyMe on March 03, 2016, 03:45:44 pm
After a few reloads of luup, it did create the device. Now the test will not work. I've even tried issuing the URL in a browser. Both wget and the browser are getting an OK response, but the sensor is not arming.

Thanks for the not on getting rid of the camera images in Vera. I only have 2 at the moment for testing, but will kill them when I get all the bugs worked out to save on the processing.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 03, 2016, 04:40:09 pm
After a few reloads of luup, it did create the device. Now the test will not work. I've even tried issuing the URL in a browser. Both wget and the browser are getting an OK response, but the sensor is not arming.

Thanks for the not on getting rid of the camera images in Vera. I only have 2 at the moment for testing, but will kill them when I get all the bugs worked out to save on the processing.

When you kill the cameras you won't need this plugin. You only need the Virtual Motion sensor plugin.
Just as you send the wget or run the .bat file now in BlueIris, you can just run the Http directly to the virtual motion sensor.

Request from web service and enter the http info found with the Virtual motion plugin in vera. Reply 106 gives you directions with pictures.
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,23423.105.html
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: WhyMe on March 04, 2016, 09:25:08 am
Thank you. That works much better. Now I just have to tweak the Blue Iris setting for motion sensitivity.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on March 12, 2016, 03:32:50 pm
New version yesterday.  Anyone downloaded and/or found any gotchas?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on March 12, 2016, 03:58:22 pm
Not me.  I'm waiting for someone wanting to be on the bleedin' edge so to speak.  8)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 12, 2016, 05:12:52 pm
On the plug in or blueiris? I have auto updates on in Blueiris on both of my machines and nothing funny has happened yet.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tomgru on March 13, 2016, 12:06:30 am
That's s good sign.  It's on the app

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Zoro on April 28, 2016, 09:14:47 am
New version yesterday.  Anyone downloaded and/or found any gotchas?

@tomgru

  I seem to be running BI plugin version 0.6. Is this the current version?

Z
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: wezley69 on April 28, 2016, 08:43:34 pm
I am running 0.6.  No issues.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: blkrain9459 on May 02, 2016, 12:11:20 am
having trouble getting blue iris to show, followed instrutions on you tube video     but it keeps say its using an emulation mode    any ideas?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Aegis on June 01, 2016, 11:15:02 pm
Is there a good source for Blue Iris configuration?  I have reviewed all the youtube videos and I cannot get it to work on my (reflashed to generic IP camera) Schlage camera.  i have a port forwarded for the camera and i forwarded a port for the Blue Iris "server."  Still doesn't work.  Cant get basic setup working to even try the plugin.  The camera works fine using the ip address and port from external locations
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on June 02, 2016, 12:25:58 am
Is there a good source for Blue Iris configuration?  I have reviewed all the youtube videos and I cannot get it to work on my (reflashed to generic IP camera) Schlage camera.  i have a port forwarded for the camera and i forwarded a port for the Blue Iris "server."  Still doesn't work.  Cant get basic setup working to even try the plugin.  The camera works fine using the ip address and port from external locations

I'm unsure of your question. Are you talking about Blueiris plugin for vera, or you don't even know how to use Blueiris to begin with?

Blueiris uses http://www.cam-it.org/ for it's forums, the whole bottom two sections are related to Blueiris. Blueiris also has a support email. Cameras are very easy to setup and port forwarding is not needed on the cameras for blueiris to work. Vera also doesn't need Blueiris port forwarded either to work. 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Aegis on June 02, 2016, 06:20:46 am
Is there a good source for Blue Iris configuration?  I have reviewed all the youtube videos and I cannot get it to work on my (reflashed to generic IP camera) Schlage camera.  i have a port forwarded for the camera and i forwarded a port for the Blue Iris "server."  Still doesn't work.  Cant get basic setup working to even try the plugin.  The camera works fine using the ip address and port from external locations

I'm unsure of your question. Are you talking about Blueiris plugin for vera, or you don't even know how to use Blueiris to begin with?

Blueiris uses http://www.cam-it.org/ for it's forums, the whole bottom two sections are related to Blueiris. Blueiris also has a support email. Cameras are very easy to setup and port forwarding is not needed on the cameras for blueiris to work. Vera also doesn't need Blueiris port forwarded either to work.

Cannot even get Blue Iris to work. Will check the link.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: gibby on July 12, 2016, 10:51:40 am
I have auto-update off for my plugins. Does anyone have a link to version 0.6 plugin files?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: tb001 on November 11, 2016, 12:09:17 pm
Have what I think is a pretty dumb question, but have read through the thread and still can't figure out how to have vera send a snapshot from the cameras. I see that people are doing it, but can't figure out where I set it up. I have external motion sensors and would like to get a text or email from vera with a photo from the camera when the sensor detects motion. Any help would be appreciated!

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on November 11, 2016, 03:21:44 pm
Have what I think is a pretty dumb question, but have read through the thread and still can't figure out how to have vera send a snapshot from the cameras. I see that people are doing it, but can't figure out where I set it up. I have external motion sensors and would like to get a text or email from vera with a photo from the camera when the sensor detects motion. Any help would be appreciated!

I was using Vera alerts to send a snapshot.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: lskywalker332 on December 09, 2016, 11:44:41 pm
I'm also having a tough time getting this running with Vera.  I have BI setup and working.  I can log in to the remote view using my local IP and port 81 and see the test camera working great.  When I head to Vera and put in my username and password to the BI plugin (following the YouTube video for UI5) I get "Not Connected!"

When I start fresh with a new camera I get "Failed to receive image from camera, please try again."

I've tinkered with settings, changed the camera names and mini names to no avail.  Is there something that I'm missing?


Vera:
You are running the latest version: 1.7.855
Blue Iris 0.6


EDIT:  I ended up finding the answer I was looking for buried in the 42 pages that currently are this topic.  There is a checkbox in Blue Iris under the "Web Server" tab called "Secure Only".  Once that was unchecked everything started working in Vera.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on December 28, 2016, 03:05:42 pm
I'm having problems getting the Blue Iris Plugin to work properly with UI7 upgrade on a Vera3.

I upgraded an existing Vera3 UI5 install with the BI Plugin running properly to UI7. Everything SEEMS to work, that is I get the correct number of Blue Iris camera appearances but I only get the first two camera appearances to actually display the images, the rest simply unavailable. I've tried reconfiguring each but the same result, just the empty frame.

Anyone else seen this behavior and were you able to get by it? Thanks

John
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Newzwaver on December 28, 2016, 04:03:03 pm
Hi

If you go back a few pages you will see the way to control bi with Vera is change settings in bi.  I had the same issue and made changes and everything is perfect. 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: clippermiami on December 28, 2016, 05:03:47 pm
Hi

If you go back a few pages you will see the way to control bi with Vera is change settings in bi.  I had the same issue and made changes and everything is perfect.

But this isn't a controlling anything question, I already have Vera and BI talking to each other, Vera changes BI profiles, forces recording when sensor trip, etc., I even have BI telling Vera when its running or not.

The problem is that when I moved to UI7 I only get the first two camera displays working in the PlugIn, the other are blank, no image displayed. My BI works fine by itself and Vera UI5 worked fine with all cameras displayed, its only under UI7.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BOFH on December 28, 2016, 05:22:47 pm
I've added 2 BI camera's to Ui7 Vera in the last month. One works fine, the other does connect but after a few minutes loses the connection. When I check in the variables for that camera I'm seeying the camera name being duplicated in the URL and StreamingURL variables. Instead of eg mjpeg\camera10\image.jpg it ends up being  mjpeg\camera10camera10\image.jpg. Vera then shows the 'cannot connect to camera' image.

I added the troublesome camera to my test Vera Plus and it works just fine there. I know the BI plugin seems to have ended up somewhat of an orphan and I'm starting to worry and fear it may not be 100% compatible with the latest UI7 incarnations. Which would have far reaching consequences for my setup.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: kommando on January 05, 2017, 01:24:55 pm
Just been working through adding a camera using this plugin, its an activeX camera so Blue Iris is needed to give a URL that does not need activex to Vera.

I got the camera working in BI first which was easy, but could not get the plugin to connect to the camera even when I had unticked 'Secure only' on the BI.

As a test I then tried to access the BI from Chrome and successfully connected so I knew it was Vera or the plugin.

Next I right clicked the camera image in chrome and copied the URL.

http://XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:81/image/Cam1?

I then added a generic IP Camera without using the BI plugin using the URL and the BI IP address and port.

This got me a connected camera in Vera so then I knew it was the plugin at fault.

I then went into the BI camera selected Settings/ Advanced/ Extra parameters/ Variables and found the camera name was entered as index and not cam1 as in BI, I edited index to read as cam1 in CameraName,  URL and DirectStreamingURL. The plugin then worked after a Vera reboot.


I am using a Vera Edge, UI7 ver 1.7.2406

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Don Phillips on January 26, 2017, 08:51:03 pm
+1 to integlikewhoa for the excellent post on the LUUP to send an http command to Blue Iris. Works like a charm in several scenes.

+1 to undertoe for the excellent plugin.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Sammy2 on February 14, 2017, 01:53:23 pm
I'm also having a tough time getting this running with Vera.  I have BI setup and working.  I can log in to the remote view using my local IP and port 81 and see the test camera working great.  When I head to Vera and put in my username and password to the BI plugin (following the YouTube video for UI5) I get "Not Connected!"

When I start fresh with a new camera I get "Failed to receive image from camera, please try again."

I've tinkered with settings, changed the camera names and mini names to no avail.  Is there something that I'm missing?


Vera:
You are running the latest version: 1.7.855
Blue Iris 0.6


EDIT:  I ended up finding the answer I was looking for buried in the 42 pages that currently are this topic.  There is a checkbox in Blue Iris under the "Web Server" tab called "Secure Only".  Once that was unchecked everything started working in Vera.

Care to be a bit more specific about where to find this? Which page of 42 pages or even a link to the post that addresses this would be helpful.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Sammy2 on February 16, 2017, 07:11:59 pm
I read the first 7 or so pages of the 42 pages in this thread but is there a WiKi someplace? I followed the instructions in the YouTube video and the written instructions on the github repository to no avail at getting my cameras to show video or still pics inside Vera. All I get is ! Not Connected.

 I do have them sending motion detection to though. This I have confirmed because I had to disable it as the cameras in front of my house were tossing a notification every time a car drove by. I still need to adjust the PoI for them so that the trigger less often. Is there anything else I should post?

I have the local ip address 10.0.0.xxx:81 for port 81 set up.

BTW, for whatever reason I cannot get BlueIris to be visible through port 443 (and I tried 444 too) on the WAN (https) but I can view the camera on the local LAN IP address and port for Blue Iris Server. Is this maybe part of my problem? I don't think it is because it is a local call from Vera and not a call over the internet AFAIK.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Don Phillips on February 16, 2017, 08:21:43 pm
No Wiki - just lots of pages of clues to figure it out.

Here is how I have the main feed from BI configured for a 4 camera composite image.  Very nice on the phone to see all 4 cameras at once. The first image is that Camera.

I then use the DVR plug-in to create 4 cameras. The second image is one of those cameras.

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: wadesready on February 17, 2017, 05:15:21 am
I'm also having a tough time getting this running with Vera.  I have BI setup and working.  I can log in to the remote view using my local IP and port 81 and see the test camera working great.  When I head to Vera and put in my username and password to the BI plugin (following the YouTube video for UI5) I get "Not Connected!"

When I start fresh with a new camera I get "Failed to receive image from camera, please try again."

I've tinkered with settings, changed the camera names and mini names to no avail.  Is there something that I'm missing?


Vera:
You are running the latest version: 1.7.855
Blue Iris 0.6


EDIT:  I ended up finding the answer I was looking for buried in the 42 pages that currently are this topic.  There is a checkbox in Blue Iris under the "Web Server" tab called "Secure Only".  Once that was unchecked everything started working in Vera.

Dude you are my hero!!!!!
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Sammy2 on February 17, 2017, 08:01:01 pm
I'm also having a tough time getting this running with Vera.  I have BI setup and working.  I can log in to the remote view using my local IP and port 81 and see the test camera working great.  When I head to Vera and put in my username and password to the BI plugin (following the YouTube video for UI5) I get "Not Connected!"

When I start fresh with a new camera I get "Failed to receive image from camera, please try again."

I've tinkered with settings, changed the camera names and mini names to no avail.  Is there something that I'm missing?


Vera:
You are running the latest version: 1.7.855
Blue Iris 0.6


EDIT:  I ended up finding the answer I was looking for buried in the 42 pages that currently are this topic.  There is a checkbox in Blue Iris under the "Web Server" tab called "Secure Only".  Once that was unchecked everything started working in Vera.

Dude you are my hero!!!!!

Yeah! I needed to re-read this post and then find the check box in Blue Iris but my cameras are working now in Vera. Could be not having adequate time to digest it the other day early in the morning before work.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: pentium on February 22, 2017, 08:44:26 am
This is just a stunning app.  Thank you so much for all of your efforts in developing and sharing this amazing tool. 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Sammy2 on February 22, 2017, 11:51:31 am
Now that I've got this and the motion sensors set up in my VeraPlus, is it possible to have Vera send a command to Blue Iris to trigger the cameras?

Scenario: Motion, window/door or glass break sensor is triggered in Vera and Vera tells Blue Iris to start recording. I think that using Blue Iris to record to the HDD it is using is better than having Vera record internally.

Also, I still have no idea where Vera puts the recordings it is taking when the cameras are triggered and I fear running out of internal storage space too.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 22, 2017, 12:17:05 pm
Now that I've got this and the motion sensors set up in my VeraPlus, is it possible to have Vera send a command to Blue Iris to trigger the cameras?

This plugin uses Blueiris built in http commands. Blueiris is capible of alot of things and weather you using the plugin or use a scene/PLEG or what ever you can send your own commands to blueiris without the use of the plugin. Same goes for the other direction.

So in your case an easy way to trigger blueiris to record is using this in a scene.

http://BlueirisIPAddress:PORT/admin?camera=CAMSHORTNAME&trigger&user=USERID&pw=PASSWORD

There is a list of commands bleuiris excepts if you search google for Blueiris HTTP commands. I think way back in in the beginnning of this thread a list is also made and discussions on how to use HTTP commands in a scene.

Some of us also didn't want vera bogging down with the camera images so instead we used a virtual motion sensor and have Blueiris trigger the virtual motion directly without the camera images being streamed into vera.

You can also change your BI profiles via Http commands and a scene. If Its day or night if you home or away the profile vera (and day night plugin, geofences) can change the profile for you in BI. This will help change sensitivities for outside cameras or stop recording inside images when you home or what ever you need.   
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Sammy2 on February 22, 2017, 04:59:25 pm
Now that I've got this and the motion sensors set up in my VeraPlus, is it possible to have Vera send a command to Blue Iris to trigger the cameras?

This plugin uses Blueiris built in http commands. Blueiris is capible of alot of things and weather you using the plugin or use a scene/PLEG or what ever you can send your own commands to blueiris without the use of the plugin. Same goes for the other direction.

So in your case an easy way to trigger blueiris to record is using this in a scene.

http://BlueirisIPAddress:PORT/admin?camera=CAMSHORTNAME&trigger&user=USERID&pw=PASSWORD

There is a list of commands bleuiris excepts if you search google for Blueiris HTTP commands. I think way back in in the beginnning of this thread a list is also made and discussions on how to use HTTP commands in a scene.

Some of us also didn't want vera bogging down with the camera images so instead we used a virtual motion sensor and have Blueiris trigger the virtual motion directly without the camera images being streamed into vera.

You can also change your BI profiles via Http commands and a scene. If Its day or night if you home or away the profile vera (and day night plugin, geofences) can change the profile for you in BI. This will help change sensitivities for outside cameras or stop recording inside images when you home or what ever you need.

I'll be trying that out pretty soon.

Since you aren't using your Vera to view images from you cameras, what do you use, particularly in a mobile environment? The Blue Iris App is $10 per device (I have android and my wife is stuck on iPhone) Is there any other decent app? I see some in the play store but don't know much about how much more these apps do beyond what the Vera BI Plugin does so I'm contemplating whether to buy or not.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Don Phillips on February 22, 2017, 06:06:15 pm
I use Vera to monitor 4 cameras and 1 composite image of the 4 cameras - feeds from Blue Iris. VeraMate makes it nice to quickly glance at images when alerts come through.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 22, 2017, 09:30:25 pm

I'll be trying that out pretty soon.

Since you aren't using your Vera to view images from you cameras, what do you use, particularly in a mobile environment? The Blue Iris App is $10 per device (I have android and my wife is stuck on iPhone) Is there any other decent app? I see some in the play store but don't know much about how much more these apps do beyond what the Vera BI Plugin does so I'm contemplating whether to buy or not.

No app will compare to the blueiris APP period. So I do have the blueiris app on every device. It 10.00 per account so I only pay 10.00 for all the androids in my house. If you have ios and androids well then yes another 10.00.

I do use Imperihome for all my home automation and that has options for live camera streaming (no playback)

I also have used and bought IP CAMERA VIEWER app I use that for work cameras as hey don't use blueiris.

Thing is none of the apps compare to what Blueiris app can do. Going back to see a recording for a few hours ago to a few days ago is not possible on most apps. Doesn't do much good to get a motion notifcation and pull out your phone and nothing is in the live stream anymore.

So what I actually do is:
Set your controller to know if anyone is home or not. Also have some outside motions active when home but exterior doors haven't been opened for sometime meaning we are inside and haven't went out. When you get that setup have it pull a still image when motion is triggered and push it to you phone. I get a quick notification and pops up an image (I use tasker to do this) If I see something wrong in the still I open the blueiris app. If I see the mailman I return the phone to my pocket. I tend to open blueiris if i want to know whats going on at home and feel like browsing the cameras.

The blueiris app and software have nice control of keeping a good looking image but lowering the bitrate to not have freezing and shuddering when I don't have the fastest cell coverage. My other apps like ipcamera viewer require alot more setup to try and accomplish that. You need to setup a 2nd stream on each camera and tweak settings in each camera to try and keep quailty up but skipping and even first load time down. When you have 3 and 4MP cameras a cell connection cant handle it and not all cameras have good compression type formats to do what blueiris app does across the board with all cameras in one adjustment.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Sammy2 on February 23, 2017, 07:44:04 am
Great write up on the BI mobile app. I will spring for the $10, cough $20, today. Thanks!
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BruceNH on February 23, 2017, 12:34:53 pm
I am a recent convert to Blue Iris and this plugin. The plugin is great once you get it working. For me the big plus is the ability to use the cameras motion detectors in Vera scenes. I have ended up with a lot of different cameras and trying to do this directly without BI and the plugin proved impossible.
Just a setup note on my experience. I had a lot of issues  getting Vera to recognize the cameras when I used the "create camera" button in the BI plugin app control. In fact I only managed to setup one camera this way.
I had everything right as far as I could tell and was able to post the URL in the camera setting into a browser and see an image no problem.
After much frustration I decided to try to create device under the "develop app" tab. This method is shown in the BI plugin video. Using this method I  had zero issues adding any of my cameras. and am now a happy camper.
So, if you are new to this and have problems like me try the "develop app" tab.
Cheers and a big thanks to the plugin developer for such a great job.
(I have a Vera 3 running U15)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Sammy2 on March 01, 2017, 03:34:46 pm
I am a recent convert to Blue Iris and this plugin. The plugin is great once you get it working. For me the big plus is the ability to use the cameras motion detectors in Vera scenes. I have ended up with a lot of different cameras and trying to do this directly without BI and the plugin proved impossible.
Just a setup note on my experience. I had a lot of issues  getting Vera to recognize the cameras when I used the "create camera" button in the BI plugin app control. In fact I only managed to setup one camera this way.
I had everything right as far as I could tell and was able to post the URL in the camera setting into a browser and see an image no problem.
After much frustration I decided to try to create device under the "develop app" tab. This method is shown in the BI plugin video. Using this method I  had zero issues adding any of my cameras. and am now a happy camper.
So, if you are new to this and have problems like me try the "develop app" tab.
Cheers and a big thanks to the plugin developer for such a great job.
(I have a Vera 3 running U15)

So you only have one ipCam set up through the BI plugin still?

For each ipCam you want to set up to connect to BI, use the ip address and port plus the log in credentials for the BI server and then specify the camera by the camera short name you used for it in the BI server. This is in the Advanced>Extra Parameters>Variables section of the camera. For me it is like this:

URL: /image/Cam2?q=80&s=80&time=now
DirectStreamingURL: /mjpg/Cam2/video.mjpg
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: paulmon on April 03, 2017, 11:13:40 pm

Can anyone tell me if UI7 needs changes to have Blue iris send motion alerts to Vera?  I was running the BI plug in on UI5 for ages, just did an upgrade to UI7 (Had to factory reset) and can't get the motion to work in UI7 worked flawlessly in UI5.  Nothing on my BI has changed, but the URL in the "biveratools.bat" doesn't seem to work:

http://192.168.0.23:3480/data_request?id=lr_blueiris_tripped&test=A&sensor_id=31

The above worked fine in UI5 but with UI7 I get a "no handler" error - I've uploaded the luua files to my UI7 Vera, something about the above URL isn't right when it comes to UI7

Anyone?

Paul
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Don Phillips on April 04, 2017, 07:02:59 pm
I use the plug-in Virtual Motion Sensor. You create a child motion detector tied to the camera. I do not remember the setup details but make sure each BI camera is already set up.  Hopefully you already have this setup.

In BI, I use this command to trip Vera: <vera_ip>:3480/data_request?id=action&output_format=xml&DeviceNum=<child_virtual_devivce_#>&serviceId=urn:dcineco-com:serviceId:VMotion1&action=SetTripped   
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: paulmon on April 06, 2017, 02:57:58 pm
I use the plug-in Virtual Motion Sensor. You create a child motion detector tied to the camera. I do not remember the setup details but make sure each BI camera is already set up.  Hopefully you already have this setup.

In BI, I use this command to trip Vera: <vera_ip>:3480/data_request?id=action&output_format=xml&DeviceNum=<child_virtual_devivce_#>&serviceId=urn:dcineco-com:serviceId:VMotion1&action=SetTripped

I got that to work, but I also know that the Blue Iris plugin itself has virtual motion devices built into the plugin, that's what I was trying to get working.  But this works, thanks!
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Don Phillips on April 06, 2017, 06:18:11 pm
I think that is a matter of sending BI a command to change the profile.  I have a scene set up with LUUP to arm/disarm BI: luup.inet.wget("http://<BI_ip>:<BI_port>/admin?profile=1&lock=2&user=<BI_ID>&pw=<BI_password>")

I only have 2 profiles so it either arms or disarms BI.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: BruceNH on April 07, 2017, 02:32:28 pm
So you only have one ipCam set up through the BI plugin still?

For each ipCam you want to set up to connect to BI, use the ip address and port plus the log in credentials for the BI server and then specify the camera by the camera short name you used for it in the BI server. This is in the Advanced>Extra Parameters>Variables section of the camera. For me it is like this:

URL: /image/Cam2?q=80&s=80&time=now
DirectStreamingURL: /mjpg/Cam2/video.mjpg
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Thnx but this did not work for me for some reason.

I now have 8 cameras setup but I could only add them via the  Develop App section.

I set up each one like this:
"Create a new device (apps --> develop apps --> Create device), enter the following

Upnp Device Filename: D_DigitalSecurityCamera2.xml
Upnp Implementation Filename: I_BlueIris.xml
Ip Address: <IP ADDRESS OF BLUE IRIS server>:<Port>
Click "Create Device"
Reload Vera"

This give me all the cameras. So once this is done I just go to advanced and change the "cameraname" to the BI Short Name.

BTW sorry for the length of time it took to reply. I am not familiar with this bulletin board system and a I thought i would get an email if someone responded to the thread.

Cheers
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: RogerO on May 29, 2017, 01:45:55 pm
Hello,

I am trying to use PLEG to change the profile on my Blue Iris server based on the mode (Home, Away, Night and Vacation). Using the following LUA code:
luup.inet.wget("http://192.168.0.143:81/admin?profile=1&lock=1&user=XXXXX&pw=xxxxxxxxxxxx"). It works intermittently but is very inconsistent. If I post the http command in a browser, it is always successful and almost instantaneous. Any suggestions?

Roger
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on May 29, 2017, 02:15:17 pm
Hello,

I am trying to use PLEG to change the profile on my Blue Iris server based on the mode (Home, Away, Night and Vacation). Using the following LUA code:
luup.inet.wget("http://192.168.0.143:81/admin?profile=1&lock=1&user=XXXXX&pw=xxxxxxxxxxxx"). It works intermittently but is very inconsistent. If I post the http command in a browser, it is always successful and almost instantaneous. Any suggestions?

Roger

I don't think your problem is with PLEG and I'm not sure exactly what test you have don't to come to that conclusion. But I'm gonna take a wild guess and say your problem is not that it don't change but that it doesn't stay in that position (locked) for long. I use the "LOCK=2" command vs. you have  "LOCK=1"

If you look back at page 15 replay #221 I posted the following.

Ok guys A little update and more features for us. First the temp profile time seems to be ok, but still missing the beat usually 1 to 2 times a day (I can see VERA run my BI Fix in the logs when it happens). I think this is do to BI updates or computer/BI program restarts, haven't pinned that down but I found a solid solution anyways.

Working with Ken at BI I now have an HTTP command to Run, Temp or Hold the profile.  By adding "lock=x" to the current Http command you can now choose how you want to run that Profile.

lock=0   RUN
lock=1  TEMP
lock=2  HOLD

Example:
luup.inet.wget("http://IPADDRESS:PORT/admin?profile=1&lock=2&user=XXXXXX&pw=XXXXXX")

So this command would "HOLD" profile "1" when ran.

So lock #1 would only temporary set the profile but will not hold it. So after a set time (its set in blueiris) the profile will revert back and leave you in the wrong profile then what you think you should be in. Now if you have tested and it just doesn't change at all then I'm out of place, but if your problem is after some time you check and notice that the profile is wrong then it may just be that you not locking or holding the profile (lock=2) until the next change.

You browser test is probley an instant test and you don't leave it long enough to flip back after a temporary hold. 

hope this helps.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: RogerO on May 29, 2017, 02:41:47 pm
Thanks for the response. Here's my setup and how I am testing.
I have 2 outside cameras and one inside camera. To satisfy the WAF, I want to disable the inside camera when vera is in home mode. It is activated in Night, Away and Vacation mode. I have geofencing set vera to Home if either of us are home. To test I have disabled the inside camera in profile 1. While watching the BlueIris webpage I can cycle through the profiles and the inside camera will show up or disappear depending on the profile. This works perfectly from the BI app on the BI server while monitoring the BI web page. When I change modes in Vera, it successfully changes the BI profile 60 % of the time. Seems to fail mostly going back to home mode from any of the other modes.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on May 29, 2017, 03:41:02 pm
Thanks for the response. Here's my setup and how I am testing.
I have 2 outside cameras and one inside camera. To satisfy the WAF, I want to disable the inside camera when vera is in home mode. It is activated in Night, Away and Vacation mode. I have geofencing set vera to Home if either of us are home. To test I have disabled the inside camera in profile 1. While watching the BlueIris webpage I can cycle through the profiles and the inside camera will show up or disappear depending on the profile. This works perfectly from the BI app on the BI server while monitoring the BI web page. When I change modes in Vera, it successfully changes the BI profile 60 % of the time. Seems to fail mostly going back to home mode from any of the other modes.

Test the correct command above and report back.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: RogerO on May 29, 2017, 04:17:13 pm
The more I play with it, the more I think it is related to BI being busy.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on May 29, 2017, 10:25:28 pm
The more I play with it, the more I think it is related to BI being busy.

I have never had that. Whats the CPU Usage?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: RichardPHarvey on June 23, 2017, 10:21:40 am
I do exactly what you're doing and I have 8 1080p camera's so I don't think it's BI being too busy.  What is your CPU usage ..?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: RogerO on June 23, 2017, 10:49:26 am
Sorry to not reply a while back. I got everything working, though at this point not sure what changes I made anymore.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rfryar on July 13, 2017, 10:12:21 am
Can this plug in be updated to support the secure webserver option?  Since I use the web interface and have it exposed I do not like having my credentials sent in the clear just to support this Vera plug in.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on July 13, 2017, 01:12:48 pm
Can this plug in be updated to support the secure webserver option?  Since I use the web interface and have it exposed I do not like having my credentials sent in the clear just to support this Vera plug in.

I know we looked into this in the past and there was an issue where it wouldn't work. I think BI said that was for them using their own app and server. I don't think they were willing or able to share what is needed behind the scenes to complete a secure connection with a 3rd party. I'm sure due to security concerns and keeping that secure between the two products they support without.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: jsauser11 on October 30, 2017, 11:12:26 pm
Having a problem with saved snapshots and video clips.
Keep getting "error retrieving thumbnail!" on snapshots and another error on attempt to play video clips. Live video is good from both cameras I have set up using the Blue Iris app.
It seems like maybe BI is not getting the html command, but the server is setup to not require login authentification from LAN. Anybody have an idea what might be wrong?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: nayr14 on November 13, 2017, 08:07:53 pm
I setup my first camera using this plugin (installed via apps).

However, now I have another camera in BI so I wanted to add it to Vera.  I go to the app information and click "Create another" and a few seconds later get the "Device Created" message box.  However, there is no camera.  I've tried this a few times.  Am I doing something wrong?  VeraPlus on UI7 v0.6
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Sammy2 on November 13, 2017, 08:10:25 pm
I setup my first camera using this plugin (installed via apps).

However, now I have another camera in BI so I wanted to add it to Vera.  I go to the app information and click "Create another" and a few seconds later get the "Device Created" message box.  However, there is no camera.  I've tried this a few times.  Am I doing something wrong?  VeraPlus on UI7 v0.6

Did you put in the corresponding Camera Name from Blue Iris? Typically Cam1 and Cam2 etc.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: nayr14 on November 13, 2017, 10:19:26 pm
I setup my first camera using this plugin (installed via apps).

However, now I have another camera in BI so I wanted to add it to Vera.  I go to the app information and click "Create another" and a few seconds later get the "Device Created" message box.  However, there is no camera.  I've tried this a few times.  Am I doing something wrong?  VeraPlus on UI7 v0.6

Did you put in the corresponding Camera Name from Blue Iris? Typically Cam1 and Cam2 etc.

The first camera works great, but I'm trying to add my second camera in Vera.  I can't get it to generate another camera in Vera so I can set those variables.

Should that create another button generate a second camera for me to adjust the settings of?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Sammy2 on November 14, 2017, 11:00:06 am
I setup my first camera using this plugin (installed via apps).

However, now I have another camera in BI so I wanted to add it to Vera.  I go to the app information and click "Create another" and a few seconds later get the "Device Created" message box.  However, there is no camera.  I've tried this a few times.  Am I doing something wrong?  VeraPlus on UI7 v0.6

Did you put in the corresponding Camera Name from Blue Iris? Typically Cam1 and Cam2 etc.

The first camera works great, but I'm trying to add my second camera in Vera.  I can't get it to generate another camera in Vera so I can set those variables.

Should that create another button generate a second camera for me to adjust the settings of?

Yes it should.

Try update app then reload the lua and refresh your browser. They click create another, reload lua and refresh your browser.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: TomBrewer on March 07, 2018, 12:32:17 pm
I have tried and tried to get this plug-in working. Cameras work fine locally in BlueIris. At this point Vera is giving me the following message "Camera has a problem. Image may not be actual Camera has a problem." Using a Vera Edge with UI17.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Sammy2 on March 07, 2018, 01:21:15 pm
I have tried and tried to get this plug-in working. Cameras work fine locally in BlueIris. At this point Vera is giving me the following message "Camera has a problem. Image may not be actual Camera has a problem." Using a Vera Edge with UI17.

Blue Iris:
Did you open a port for the BlueIris Server in your router? You must do this first. The BlueIris Server IP address will be the IP address of the PC on which BlueIris runs.

Vera:
Did you create a camera using the BlueIris Plugin? If not, create one. If you have created one, there should be a new unconfigured camera so go to..

Devices > Cameras > Blue Iris CAM #xxx.

Select the > Button.

Advanced.

Network is
<local ip address of BlueIris Server>:<BlueIris Server Port#>

Login Credentials are your BlueIris Server Login Credentials. <UserName> <Password>

Click Done at the bottom then reopen the Advanced tab as described above.

Click Extra Parameters.

Params
Name your camera. All other settings should be fine already but if not, the ip address and login are as above.

Variables
CameraName is the <Short Camera Name> given the Camera in BlueIris.
URL is "/image/<Short Camera Name in BlueIris>?"
DirectStreamingULR is "/mjpg/<Short Camera Name in Blue Iris>/video.mjpg"

Should be it. Note, do not use the quotation marks as I have used them only to quote what goes there. Additional Note, do not use the brackets <> but put in the information from your set up.

Report back.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: TomBrewer on March 07, 2018, 02:25:50 pm
Attached is a screen shot of the view through Vera. I can get to the camera, because the image (some of it) is correct. There is NO moving video though.
So from this I can only assume that the IP, etc. etc. are ok. Don't to set anything in the router, because the Vera and the BlueIris PC are on the same network. External access is into the Vera.
 
This is the URL that I have "/image/Cathy?q=80&s=80&user=<username>&pw=<password>" BlueIris generated this for me.

Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Don Phillips on March 07, 2018, 05:26:57 pm
I think Vera works better with just stills being shown rather than streaming a video. All 4 of my cameras, plus the composite feed, are all stills, updated about once a second, which meets my needs, does not overtax Vera, and minimizes my data use when looking at cameras on VeraMate on my phone.

If I need to actually see (and hear) a live stream, I use a different app on my phone for that.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Sammy2 on March 07, 2018, 05:42:21 pm
Yes.. stills about every 6 seconds in Vera. The plugin is mainly to use the camera's motion sensors to trigger other events. Viewing and checking triggered events is best dome in BlueIris itself.

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Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: TomBrewer on March 07, 2018, 06:49:47 pm
This I didn't know. I "assumed" that video could be streamed, which is the point. But, if taking an image every 6 seconds is the best we can do, so be it. What setting will allow me to accomplish this?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Sammy2 on March 07, 2018, 07:08:29 pm
This I didn't know. I "assumed" that video could be streamed, which is the point. But, if taking an image every 6 seconds is the best we can do, so be it. What setting will allow me to accomplish this?

The "point" of hooking cameras into Vera is to trigger other events when the cameras sense motion. Streaming video is best handled by the native BlueIris App as is especially recording. I have a dedicated 4TB drive for BlueIris DVR and record 24/7, keeping video for a few weeks before recycling disk space. This isn't possible in Vera. Getting frame updates is fine as you aren't saving them in Vera anyhow.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 07, 2018, 09:47:11 pm
The "point" of hooking cameras into Vera is to trigger other events when the cameras sense motion.

And the plugin is not needed for this. Just a virtual motion for each camera and setting up the alerts under each cameras motion tab.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Sammy2 on March 08, 2018, 02:30:56 pm
The "point" of hooking cameras into Vera is to trigger other events when the cameras sense motion.

And the plugin is not needed for this. Just a virtual motion for each camera and setting up the alerts under each cameras motion tab.

True but I found it easier to get the cameras into Vera with the plugin.. Only one IP address and port to open on the router and setting up a new one is basically copy/paste, changing the Short Camera Name in the appropriate places in the plugin.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 09, 2018, 12:00:34 am
True but I found it easier to get the cameras into Vera with the plugin.. Only one IP address and port to open on the router and setting up a new one is basically copy/paste, changing the Short Camera Name in the appropriate places in the plugin.

The point was you don't need the cameras in vera, and using either the plugin or virtual motion requires no port opening of the router, its all local from Blueiris to VERA. Using virtual motions also require not copy and paste or camera short names.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Sammy2 on March 09, 2018, 08:59:32 am
True but I found it easier to get the cameras into Vera with the plugin.. Only one IP address and port to open on the router and setting up a new one is basically copy/paste, changing the Short Camera Name in the appropriate places in the plugin.

The point was you don't need the cameras in vera, and using either the plugin or virtual motion requires no port opening of the router, its all local from Blueiris to VERA. Using virtual motions also require not copy and paste or camera short names.
Wow! I've been doing this in the wrong way. How to get BI to talk directly to Vera, mainly for motion triggered events?

Thanks!

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Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: TomBrewer on March 09, 2018, 09:48:58 am
You know, call me crazy. But, when I first heard of the Blue Iris plugin I immediately thought video streaming. Or extending the video of Blue Iris out to a Vera for viewing remotely. I almost feel as though I've been suckered in here, because the plugin, in fact, does not support video streaming. It's sort of a slow refresh rate of still images instead.
From what I've read here, it's main purpose seems to be to trigger events. Any comments?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 09, 2018, 05:46:08 pm
Wow! I've been doing this in the wrong way. How to get BI to talk directly to Vera, mainly for motion triggered events?

Thanks!

See reply #106 in this thread.

http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,23423.105.html

Basicly is you install a virtual motion for each camera you have in vera, then in Blueiris under each camera you set an alert that when motion is trigger you send an http command to flip the virtual switch to on/motion and when blueiris resets have it flip the motion to off or no motion. Both VERA and Blueiris are on your local LAN so no need to port forward to the internet,WAN or outside world.

Now if you using the blueiris app to view your cameras outside of your home you need to port forward for that, but it has nothing to do with motions in vera.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 09, 2018, 05:53:39 pm
You know, call me crazy. But, when I first heard of the Blue Iris plugin I immediately thought video streaming. Or extending the video of Blue Iris out to a Vera for viewing remotely. I almost feel as though I've been suckered in here, because the plugin, in fact, does not support video streaming. It's sort of a slow refresh rate of still images instead.
From what I've read here, it's main purpose seems to be to trigger events. Any comments?

The problem is vera may do cameras...... But its underpowered to handle any real video processing. So VERA is not a DVR or transcoder. If you have blueiris you already have a powerful setup that handles the video. Using the blueiris APP for remote viewing allows alot of advanced features. Adjusting the quality for the bandwidth and alot more are all built into blueiris and its app. Taking Blueiris and running it threw vera, vera servers and the web then your mobile device is no wear near as good as direct from Blueiris to web, to blueiris app. Even your options and historical playback and all is much better.

Now using your cameras to trigger motion events in vera are the most common. I also change the recording options (no inside recording when I'm home) based on my home and away which comes form my smart home controller. A scene with a local http command to vera can also do that without the plugin. Or you can use the plugin and it will do it for you.

Personally the plugin is not needed and takes up more resources then I want it to. But for others its easier then manually setting some things up. 
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: rigpapa on March 09, 2018, 06:44:18 pm
I'm coming late to the party and this is a long thread, so if I've missed the boat/point/window I apologize, but I wanted to suggest that if all that is needed is to get Vera to know when BlueIris senses motion (which it's really good at), you can use the VirtualSensor plugin to be the motion sensor emulation on the Vera side, and configure BlueIris to send an action to the Vera to trip and reset the VirtualSensor device when a camera is triggered or untriggered (for motion or any other event that BlueIris can detect, e.g. audio).

Specifically, install the VirtualSensor plugin, and create one device instance for every camera you want to respond to. Name them and record their respective device numbers. Leave them in Disabled state, because they will be operated programmatically by BlueIris only, and disabled stops any automatic operation. They can be armed or disarmed as needed, as any other motion sensor would be used.

Then, in the BlueIris camera properties for each camera, on the Alerts tab, check "Request from a web service" and hit the Configure... button. For "When triggered" enter this:

Code: [Select]
http://your-vera-ip/port_3480/data_request?id=action&serviceId=urn:toggledbits-com:serviceId:VirtualSensor1&action=Trip&DeviceNum=your_vsensor_device_id
Then check the "Request again when trigger is reset" checkbox, and enter this URL to untrip the sensor:

Code: [Select]
http://your-vera-ip/port_3480/data_request?id=action&serviceId=urn:toggledbits-com:serviceId:VirtualSensor1&action=Reset&DeviceNum=your_vsensor_device_id
It's a bit "crafty," but then, so much is, and it will be a lot lighter weight on the Vera than anything involving the video stream directly. You can also poke at the ModeStatus variable to get the arming state configured right for the various house modes, as you would with other security sensor devices.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Gr8hifi on March 15, 2018, 11:51:06 pm
Out of curiosity, is there a way to make Vera talk to the blue iris server?  What I?d like is to set ?away?on my Vera and have that tell blue iris to start recording on motion detection.  Then, when I deselect away, I?d like Vera to tell blue iris to stop recording on motion.   I know I can set up schedules, but our lives don?t seem to do the same thing at the same time with any regularity. 

Thank you
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: kfxo on March 16, 2018, 08:51:04 am
Out of curiosity, is there a way to make Vera talk to the blue iris server?  What I?d like is to set ?away?on my Vera and have that tell blue iris to start recording on motion detection.  Then, when I deselect away, I?d like Vera to tell blue iris to stop recording on motion.   I know I can set up schedules, but our lives don?t seem to do the same thing at the same time with any regularity. 

Thank you

You can send some http commands to the blue iris server. For example set up profile for recording and profile for not recording. Then switch profiles in blue iris using this lua code

local status, result = luup.inet.wget("http://ServerIP:ServerPortNumber/admin?profile=DesiredProfileNumber&lock=2&user=YourUserName&pw=YourPassword", 5)
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Don Phillips on March 16, 2018, 07:59:53 pm
And the Blue Iris cameras can become virtual motion sensors in Vera.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: Gr8hifi on March 17, 2018, 05:04:37 pm

You can send some http commands to the blue iris server. For example set up profile for recording and profile for not recording. Then switch profiles in blue iris using this lua code

local status, result = luup.inet.wget("http://ServerIP:ServerPortNumber/admin?profile=DesiredProfileNumber&lock=2&user=YourUserName&pw=YourPassword", 5)

I coupled your code with the House Modes Plugin and this works great! 
Thank you so much,
Jason
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: jhanson999 on May 15, 2018, 02:35:36 pm
I've been using the blueiris plugin for years without any real problems until now.  I just added a new camera to blue iris, so I added another vera device via the vera blueiris plugin menu.  I can get everything working, except after some time, the camera goes offline.  I think this is related to the fact that I cannot set the username and password.  Anytime I try, I get "Unable to change the camera's username/password" in a warning message across the screen.  It works at first when I hard set the username and password in the URL variable, but it won't take at the device level. 

Running the "/data_request?id=user_data&output_format=xml" command and looking at the device, it is missing the username and password options in the device that all the other cameras I'm using have.  I'm pretty confident that it's failing because it can't set variables that don't exist, but I've tried removing and adding it a few times and it always has the same problem, like the plugin has a compatibility issue with the newer firmware or something, but I can't figure out how to resolve it.  Any ideas anyone, or is anyone else seeing this issue?
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: jswim788 on May 15, 2018, 04:59:34 pm
it's failing because it can't set variables that don't exist
You can add the variable manually if that's what the plugin needs.  A plugin can create variables, but maybe this one chooses not to?  Just make sure you add it with the correct SID as well as variable name (match the working one).  Case matters.
Title: Re: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: jhanson999 on May 16, 2018, 09:05:19 am
it's failing because it can't set variables that don't exist
You can add the variable manually if that's what the plugin needs.  A plugin can create variables, but maybe this one chooses not to?  Just make sure you add it with the correct SID as well as variable name (match the working one).  Case matters.

I know how to create variables that show up in the "states" section of the device, but not on the device itself.  What method do I use to accomplish this?  Also, what is the SID, I'm not seeing that option at all, maybe that's my problem.
Title: Vera Blue Iris Unofficial Plugin
Post by: andreysunomb on May 24, 2018, 02:21:46 am
Hi. Sorry if this is the wrong forum.
I bought Video Enhancer, and I read I could contact you, and get a key for the VirtualDub plugin as well?

Thank you.