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Title: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: rscheer on August 27, 2016, 05:17:11 am
I bought a new Vera Edge system and some devices. Everything seem to work properly, I have only one issue left. I have a Fibaro FGS-223 device which should be able to switch two independent lights. I connected the device and added it to my Vera system. I see a device and gave it a name. I also see an "_Appliance module" and an "_Appliance module 1" device. The first has altid e1, the seconds altid e2. Using google, it seems the first device is the master, the e1 is the slave for the first channel and e2 is the slave for the second channel. Using the master device, I can operate the first channel. Operating the e1 or e2 device in Vera does not have any effect, only in the Vera UI it shows the devices are on.
When I use the hardware interface of the FGS-223 device, I can switch the first light (Q1) using the S1 connector and the second light (Q2) using the S2 connector.

So my question: how can I control the second channel using the Vera UI?
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Jodelo on September 04, 2016, 02:59:48 pm
I have exactly the same problem. i have no idea how i can fix this
have you got any solutions yet?
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: RitterIwan on September 05, 2016, 03:50:44 am
It's exactely the same to me. 2nd channel won't be triggered by VERA Edge.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Jodelo on September 09, 2016, 05:17:44 pm
i send a message to Vera support
Maybe you can do the same
maybe they give it more priority when there ar more messages
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: RitterIwan on September 12, 2016, 08:32:30 am
I already dropped a message to Vera support, too.

By having a closer look to the log of the z-wave commnunication between the Vera and the FGS-223 I found out this so far:

1)
The VERA uses the wrong command class to communication with the Fibaro. For the childs (2nd channel) it uses SWITCH_MULTILEVEL (0x26 / 38d) instead of SWITCH_BINARY (0x25 / 37d).

I conviced the VERA to use SWITCH_BINARY by removing the value 38 from the capabilities.
But then we have he next issue:

2)
Per default VERA includes the Fibaro in secure mode. Which makes sense for 5th GEN / ZWAVE device, generally.
But it sends the command to swich the 2nd channel without encryption. The fibaro - of course - expects an encryption command and doesn't move when getting commands the one-secure way.
In more detail:
To swich the 2nd channel the command class MULTI_CHANNEL and the command MULTI_CHANNEL_CMD_ENCAP (0x60 x0d) has to be used with a embedded SWITCH_BINARY. This in turn has to be encapsulated in a CLASS_SECURITY command to send it the encypted way.
But VERA transmits only a MULTI_CHANNEL / MULTI_CHANNEL_CMD_ENCAP  with a SWITCH_BINARY without the neccessary encryption.


From from my point of view there are two bugs.
Until these bugs a fixed I could imagine as a work-around it works when the FGS-223 will be included the non-secure way.
Does anybody know how the set the VERA into the non-secure inclusion mode?


Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: RitterIwan on September 19, 2016, 07:42:16 am
I got the feedback from support that this device will be supported in "near future". The fixes will be included in one of the next firmware updated. But they don't know in which ne.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Kullematz on September 20, 2016, 12:15:10 pm
The device is even not working on VeraLite/UI5/1.5.672.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: RitterIwan on September 21, 2016, 10:23:44 am
I got my VERA already with UI7. So I'm not really familiar with UI5. Is UI5 able to handle ZWAVE+ (5th Gen) devices at all?
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Kullematz on September 21, 2016, 11:39:23 am
IIs UI5 able to handle ZWAVE+ (5th Gen) devices at all?

It's not fully compatable with Zwave+, but I have some Zwave+ devices and they do their jobs quite well and as said in the manual, this device is "Compatible with any Z-Wave or Z-Wave+ Controller".
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Cor on October 10, 2016, 03:52:29 pm
Oh , that is great!

Just installed this relays , and now this problem. :-\

Hopefully it is quickly resolved

Cor
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: RitterIwan on October 12, 2016, 10:02:24 am
Hi guys,

has anybody got an answer from the support when the bug(s) that prevent the FGS-223 to work properly will be fixed?

Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on October 12, 2016, 02:03:31 pm
I got the feedback from support that this device will be supported in "near future". The fixes will be included in one of the next firmware updated. But they don't know in which ne.

That is the standard answer from vera. And that can add up to over a year.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: TheClown44 on October 18, 2016, 02:19:59 am
Hi guys.

I just sent a message to support too.
Same problem for me... of course.
 :-\

Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: RubbrDug on October 29, 2016, 11:37:42 am
Just installed one of those and the next is on order. Ran into the same problem as everyone else and came here for help. :-[

[Edit] Sent a message to support as well [/Edit]
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on October 29, 2016, 12:03:51 pm
Most probably you will get this answer (as I did):

We are aware of this issue and actively working on this to reach a common ground on the specs of this device. And because we will have an intermediary firmware release which will contain some significant z-wave mesh mechanics, we can?t further work on FGS-223 until we have this firmware out first. Who knows, it might even work correctly after this intermediary firmware. But I can?t tell for sure.
If you are familiar with Luup code, PLEG and virtual switches. I have a temporary solution for you.
You can basically use these two Luup line codes, for turning the second child on/off . For ease of use you can include this code in a PLEG and to a virtual switch.


LUUP CODE Attached.

I asked when the new firmware will come out (since asking support will probablt not bash my karma :-) And the answer was in line with Vera's strategy:
A whole team is working on the new firmware.
As far as I know the quality assurance department is testing it at the moment and after that we will release a beta firmware.
I can?t offer you a ETA, but I think it should be released soon because our testers are already working on it.


BTW also the second channel has the "can't detect device" bug...

So tired of this all... A "team" usually is more than 1 person... but int this case I really doubt...
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: RubbrDug on October 29, 2016, 03:58:48 pm
Well, I am no big coder, but that worked as a fix for me!

Thanks for posting this!
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on November 03, 2016, 12:04:26 pm
For the non-techies written down from A-Z:

Create 2 Virtual switches (via virtual switch app):
FGS-223-e2 VS
FGS-223-e1 VS

Lookup the altid of the master device created by vera for the real FGS-223 device (in my example 141)

Create 4 scene's: select ON or OFF on Virtual switch device as a trigger, in step 1 (Whenever VirtualSwitch?A device is turned on or off), skip on step2 by pressing next, and on step 3, choose Also, execute the following Luup code: and put the code for ON.

Virtual Switch: FGS-223-e2 VS
Scene triggered with virtual switch "FGS-223-e2 VS" ON
luup.call_action("urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1", "SendData", {Node=141, Data="0x60 0xd 0x2 0x2 0x25 0x1 0x63"}, 1)

Scene triggered with virtual switch "FGS-223-e2 VS" OFF
luup.call_action("urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1", "SendData", {Node=141, Data="0x60 0xd 0x2 0x2 0x25 0x1 0x0"}, 1)


Virtual Switch: FGS-223-e1 VS
Scene triggered with virtual switch "FGS-223-e1 VS" ON
luup.call_action("urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1", "SendData", {Node=141, Data="0x60 0xd 0x1 0x1 0x25 0x1 0x63"}, 1)

Scene triggered with virtual switch "FGS-223-e1 VS"
luup.call_action("urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1", "SendData", {Node=141, Data="0x60 0xd 0x1 0x1 0x25 0x1 0x0"}, 1)

Optionally you can hide the orignal device.

And the power consumption is not given.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: barabasj65 on November 20, 2016, 04:51:31 am
Thanks Sender, great job, great guide!
The switch works, but the display in UI7 don't recognizes the state's change of the switch when use the S1 or S2 manual switch.
E.g.
FGS-223-E1 VS is OFF, via manual switch S1 I switch to ON, on the display of UI7 the VS still shows OFF.
In brief, the state of the VS shown in UI7 is not relevant.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on November 20, 2016, 06:33:06 am
Hi, yes, I know... Vera also knows... and as always probably it will be fixed only if more than 50 people start complaining via support tickets.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Nailer00 on November 23, 2016, 10:39:52 am
Also having this issue, logging a ticket now  ::)
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: save on December 05, 2016, 12:16:13 pm
Hi,

I send this issue long time ago to mios support and We are still waiting the solution.  The aswer from mios was, it will be fixed in the next fiimware but there isn?t any new since months ago.

I have a customer with 10 Fibaro devices installed, At the moment the customer think  the system is a sheet and it's going kill me. Is there any way to change variables of the device in the VERA  to solve it?

Regards

Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on December 05, 2016, 12:49:02 pm
I hate to say it... but that is what it is... Vera... I can point you to a lot of places on this forum where vera promises solutions...
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: MadsBrodersen on December 05, 2016, 04:19:46 pm
Hi guys, I'm just starting to look into this world of home automation and fell into this newbie pitfall of not doing my research well enough before buying. I'm also trying to use a FGS223 controlled by an Edge.

I've managed to get it working using the lua code in this thread but I just have one question: Are there any way to set up a trigger for the other switch (S2) as I would like to control it by both a wall switch connected to S1 and a motion detector connected to S2?

Btw. I've also written support telling them that I need them to fully support this device.

Regards.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: EyalLefler on December 11, 2016, 07:10:29 am
Hi,
Is the new beta firmware version fix this issue?
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: ceel on December 14, 2016, 01:35:51 pm
Did anyone try the December 12 firmware Version 7.0.19 (1.7.902/1.7.2406/1.7.2414) with the FGS-223 yet?
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on December 14, 2016, 01:44:38 pm
Yes, nothing changed and case reopened without response.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: gilcd85 on December 15, 2016, 04:16:53 pm
Hi All, I am seeing the issue of only one switch working with my Vera Plus and FGS-223 as well. As part of the initial testing I ran before I found this thread, I tried deleting two FGS-223 controllers I added to my network and wasn't able to unpair or delete any of the parent or child devices. Is anyone seeing the same issue? Is there a way around this without a factory reset?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on December 22, 2016, 03:04:16 am
I think there is a solution! With the credits going to Alex from Vera. He tested and sent me a mail. I have changed some text and layout to make it better readable. Here it is and I can confirm it works!

Only 1 drawback, but not sure if the device is supposed to work this way: The power is only reported on the master device and not on the slaves. For me this is not an issue. I will try to reach Fibaro and ask if this is possible in the module design to report this for 2 sperate channels (slaves) per channel.

I was able to control the children devices via UI7 Web Interface by setting the following variable on each child device.
Click on the ">" button of the device, go to Advanced → New service, enter the service id, variable, value and "Add". Then hit Reload Engine:
Service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveDevice1
Variable: SetTargetCommandClass
Value: 37

Device is controllable in Vera via the nomal way... but

BUMP
Mail sent to Vera support again...
I have to come back on below problem. My enthusiasm is dead again. I do not see any power usage. I use on of the 2 child devices for a lamp and the other as a 'virtual' switch to remotely switch the Christmas tree (toggle).
I did a physical swap of the 223 device with the 221 device.

1.   I do not see power usage on the device.
2.   Even BIGGER problem: I do not receive any status feedback to vera when I switch local. So I can't use input 2 to toggle another device as Vera does not see it.

Why is this such a problem to support this new (and only being sold 2x1.5Kw) switch module? What will happen with Vera if only these new type of devices come out but not support is in Vera? How long will or can it take to support it? This way Vera is getting useless in time?

Can you help me (and the community) to support this device asap?

BUMP2

Can't detect device after 15-20 minutes (device works though)
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: zedrally on December 22, 2016, 03:24:22 pm

Why is this such a problem to support this new (and only being sold 2x1.5Kw) switch module?


It's not the only one being sold, so lets correct that misinformation.
Depending on region there are other double relays available and one in particular that does work with UI7.


Look for Philio in the EU, they are sold in the US, but I am not aware of the brand, in AUS use Black Cat
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on December 22, 2016, 03:27:06 pm

Why is this such a problem to support this new (and only being sold 2x1.5Kw) switch module?


It's not the only one being sold, so lets correct that misinformation.
Depending on region there are other double relays available and one in particular that does work with UI7.


Look for Philio in the EU, they are sold in the US, but I am not aware of the brand, in AUS us Black Cat

I meant the only fibaro 2x1.5kw being sold. 221 and 222 are mostly out of stock... 233 is the current model.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on December 23, 2016, 02:59:18 am
Update from MCV:
Regarding power useage I was able to see it on the parent device but not on the children devices because they didn?t report power usage via Z-Wave.
If you dont?t see any power usage on the parent device you might have an issue with wiring so you can check the device manual or contact Fibaro.
Regarding instant status report on the inputs , our development team is currently working on it.
You can try to remove the value 38 from Capabilities (and reload the engine) on the parent device as well as on the inputs and see if this will work.
The issue with can?t detect device is also related to capabilities. The device reports that it support CC Switch Multilevel and Vera is using this command class to poll it instead of CC Switch Binary.
Our development team will try to fix the issue but I don't have an ETA.

For me the capabilties were:
Master
211,156,1,4,16,1,L,R,B,RS,|34,37S,50:3,86,89,90S,91S,94,96S:4,112S,113:5,114,115,117S,122,133S,134,142S,152,

child 1
211,156,1,4,16,1,L,R,B,RS,|37,38,50,89,94,133,134,142,239,

child 2
211,156,1,4,16,1,L,R,B,RS,|37,38,50,89,94,133,134,142,239,

I removed the 38 and I will monitor behaviour

UPDATE1: Only Q1 channel is power monitored. The power is displayed on the master device.

UPDATE2: Removing 38 is not possible... It just comes back. In the meantime I received another mail:
After you have removed 38 from Capabilites from both children did you also reload the engine after each removal ?
You can exclude and re-include the device.
Then on the parent and each children do the following : click on the ?>? button for each device , go to Advanced → Variables and under Capabilities remove the value 38 , go to New Service and hit Reload Engine.
After the engine reloads hit Ctrl+F5 on your keyboard and check if 38 was removed.
If this doesn?t work then we need to wait until the bug is solved.

So...  wait for Vera...  :( ::) :-X :'(

UPDATE3:
I have found a workaround for the can't detect device and Instant Status Report.
You should remove value 38 from the parent device from the variable called MultiChCapabilites (then go to New Service and hit Reload Engine) and also remove value 38 from each child device (and also reload the engine , each time you remove it).
(I removed it from Capabilities as there is no MultiChCapabilites in the childs)
Also you should add the following service id , variable and value for both children and also Reload the Engine :
urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveDevice1
BasicSetCapabilities
00=F0,FF=O0

Done and I will observe

Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on December 24, 2016, 07:30:57 am
I can confirm it fully works now!

The FGS-223 is working like a charm following above. Status is given in Vera, can control it, power usage on first channel...

Not 100% sure the can't detect device stays away because that may take a while. Will keep posted.

Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Z-Waver on December 24, 2016, 08:06:16 am
Small victories.  :)
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on December 24, 2016, 08:36:50 am
Can't Detect Device comes back though...
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Slater on December 26, 2016, 04:45:37 pm
Sender, you rule! Thanks to this my setup is working with this device! Thank you sir.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Veera on January 01, 2017, 05:16:13 am
Hi
Thanks for the guide! I have now got the Child units to be able to control the switch but they don?t get an update wether the switch is on or off. I am rather new on the vera UI, is it possible for someone to explain a little bit more in detail regarding the following:
"Also you should add the following service id , variable and value for both children and also Reload the Engine :
urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveDevice1
BasicSetCapabilities
00=F0,FF=O0"

In my new service tab i have the following fields:
"New Service"
"New Variable"
"New Value"

What shall I put into these fields?
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: pj on January 02, 2017, 03:26:09 pm
Hi you guys,
I also have this problem that the second channel of the FGS-223-ZW5 v3.2 does not work. I tried the described solutions but with me it does not seem to work.
I also have two of the predecessors of this switch, FGS-222-EN-A-v1.00, where one works fine, and the other one does have the same problems as described.
The one that works fine though has manual switches connected and all other ones (old and new, that don't work) don't have manual switches connected, I only use the relays to switch on lamps.
So, to me it seems that the connected manual switches have something to do with it, although it can be coincidence.
I also had some troubles to get the devices of the new series connected to the network. I kept keeping messages like "Can't detect device" and "User configuration settings", although the devices seemed to work properly, except for the second channel.

If somebody could help me with this problem I would be much obliged, it seems to me a kind of 'configuration settings' problem.

Greetz, Peter-Jos
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: John M. on January 02, 2017, 03:50:56 pm
Hello Simons,

The above described procedures will only work for FGS 223. To my knowledge the predecessors FGS 222 should not have any problems, unless it's some kind of initial configuration issue, in which case, support would be able to check this out and point you to the correct solution.

Don't forget to also enable customer care remote access in the initial email, so things will go faster.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on January 02, 2017, 03:53:51 pm
Hi
Thanks for the guide! I have now got the Child units to be able to control the switch but they don?t get an update wether the switch is on or off. I am rather new on the vera UI, is it possible for someone to explain a little bit more in detail regarding the following:
"Also you should add the following service id , variable and value for both children and also Reload the Engine :
urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveDevice1
BasicSetCapabilities
00=F0,FF=O0"

In my new service tab i have the following fields:
"New Service"
"New Variable"
"New Value"

What shall I put into these fields?

Yes in that order
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Veera on January 02, 2017, 04:37:30 pm
Like this?

"New Service" - urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveDevice1
"New Variable" - BasicSetCapabilities
"New Value" - 00=F0,FF=O0
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on January 02, 2017, 04:44:45 pm
Like this?

"New Service" - urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveDevice1
"New Variable" - BasicSetCapabilities
"New Value" - 00=F0,FF=O0

Yes in that order
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: pj on January 03, 2017, 07:16:22 am
Hi John M,

what do you mean with "Don't forget to also enable customer care remote access in the initial email, so things will go faster." ???


Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on January 03, 2017, 07:45:20 am
Hi John M,

what do you mean with "Don't forget to also enable customer care remote access in the initial email, so things will go faster." ???

In your vera under the settings enable customer care and copy the given string to vera in a support email. This way they can access you device.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: pj on January 03, 2017, 11:05:08 am

In your vera under the settings enable customer care and copy the given string to vera in a support email. This way they can access you device.

got you, thanks !
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: TheRedPill on January 07, 2017, 07:17:04 am
I also cant get this to work with the procedure described above. I can control the children from the UI, but status reporting does not work. I cant believe how long it is taking for Vera to include this popular new device - 3 firmware versions on with all kinds of functionality included that I am pretty sure nobody will trust a Vera to manage (like security) and pretty much NO new device support.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: weirdinin on January 08, 2017, 11:47:37 am
I also cant get this to work with the procedure described above. I can control the children from the UI, but status reporting does not work.

I had this too. At first vera reported that device was missing and I couldn't get status. But then I tried to exclude and include the relay again. Now it's fully working. It's been couple of days and still no hiccups occurred.

Kudos to Sender. Awesome!
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: MrVera on January 11, 2017, 05:06:47 pm
Wow! Finally got this working module! Thank you!
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: weirdinin on January 13, 2017, 05:58:39 pm
noticed first hiccup. I assigned parent device to room called zzz so that it's out of sight. I don't use it. I assigned child devices to living room. for some reason child devices keep appearing to zzz and they just don't want to stay in living room. I have several these fibaro relays and I'd like them to be organised in correct room. any ideas what might be reason for this behaviour?
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on January 14, 2017, 01:12:21 am
noticed first hiccup. I assigned parent device to room called zzz so that it's out of sight. I don't use it. I assigned child devices to living room. for some reason child devices keep appearing to zzz and they just don't want to stay in living room. I have several these fibaro relays and I'd like them to be organised in correct room. any ideas what might be reason for this behaviour?

That has nothing to do with this device.

It is since day one this behaviour is there (since UI2) Parent and child devices CANNOT be divided over rooms. The childs always stay with the master (parent).
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: dalhoj on January 29, 2017, 12:54:24 pm
noticed first hiccup. I assigned parent device to room called zzz so that it's out of sight. I don't use it. I assigned child devices to living room. for some reason child devices keep appearing to zzz and they just don't want to stay in living room. I have several these fibaro relays and I'd like them to be organised in correct room. any ideas what might be reason for this behaviour?


You have to go to Advanced under the master device, and then to Variables. There you finde ChildrenSameRoom, set it to 0, and reload luup

Regards Dalhoj
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: MarcusB on January 29, 2017, 08:31:26 pm

You have to go to Advanced under the master device, and then to Variables. There you finde ChildrenSameRoom, set it to 0, and reload luup

Regards Dalhoj

Hey, that's awesome. I've had this annoyance for ages and never knew this was possible.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: weirdinin on February 04, 2017, 05:34:48 pm
noticed first hiccup. I assigned parent device to room called zzz so that it's out of sight. I don't use it. I assigned child devices to living room. for some reason child devices keep appearing to zzz and they just don't want to stay in living room. I have several these fibaro relays and I'd like them to be organised in correct room. any ideas what might be reason for this behaviour?


You have to go to Advanced under the master device, and then to Variables. There you finde ChildrenSameRoom, set it to 0, and reload luup

Regards Dalhoj

I want to thank you as well. Now devices are nicely organized.
This is a bit off topic but do you happen to know if it is possible to hide devices or scenes? Scenes and devices that do not belong any particular room are in room zzz but it would be better if they could be hidden.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Pashak on February 04, 2017, 08:54:04 pm
Followed all the above steps from Sender, got UI to control 2nd channel, but if i turn on or off from the switch it doesnt report in UI that state has changed.

I also saw someone had similar issue and excluded and reincluded, done this also, but after doing so, all the changes I made with removing capabilities and adding services was reset and had to do it all over again.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: rge on February 05, 2017, 01:02:36 pm
Is there any update on the power monitoring on the second channel? The tweaks worked to get the basic switch functionality working.

It's pretty poor that a device isn't properly supported almost six months after the first reports of problems, I'm really starting to think Vera was the wrong choice if they don't provide proper device files even when they seem to understand the problem :-(
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on February 05, 2017, 01:04:28 pm
Some devices which are over 6 years old aren't even implemented correctly.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: rge on February 05, 2017, 01:20:55 pm
That's not exactly reassuring.

I don't understand why a new set of device files can't be quickly created with the correct (or at least better) settings - then users would get a decent experience instead of having to hunt around on forums and hack just to get a basic switch working.

Companies that can't join the dots between internal knowledge and providing customer service tend to not survive because they lose customers through things it would surely cost very little to fix. You only have to read through the forums to see Vera are in that situation, with the level of satisfaction going down perceptibly even in the couple of months I've had one.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on February 05, 2017, 01:25:57 pm
That's not exactly reassuring.

I don't understand why a new set of device files can't be quickly created with the correct (or at least better) settings - then users would get a decent experience instead of having to hunt around on forums and hack just to get a basic switch working.

Companies that can't join the dots between internal knowledge and providing customer service tend to not survive because they lose customers through things it would surely cost very little to fix. You only have to read through the forums to see Vera are in that situation, with the level of satisfaction going down perceptibly even in the couple of months I've had one.

Amen
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: tk41 on February 07, 2017, 03:10:18 am
That's not exactly reassuring.

I don't understand why a new set of device files can't be quickly created with the correct (or at least better) settings - then users would get a decent experience instead of having to hunt around on forums and hack just to get a basic switch working.

Companies that can't join the dots between internal knowledge and providing customer service tend to not survive because they lose customers through things it would surely cost very little to fix. You only have to read through the forums to see Vera are in that situation, with the level of satisfaction going down perceptibly even in the couple of months I've had one.

I've made exactly that point to Colin Burke-McClure, Vera's head of development in an email conversation with him & Marc Schenker.  It was during the brief period while they were making updates less frequently in order to improve quality.  The response was, "we're about to go back to more frequent firmware updates so no need" or something to that effect.  I also suggested that they could allow the community to develop device definition files and share them, as OpenZWave does pretty well... got no response to that one.  >:(

How VCL expect to survive when they're always chasing the latest shiny functionality rather than making the basics work, is beyond me.  No-one wants a controller that half-works with everything but fully works with b*gger all.  Colin & Marc didn't answer that point either  ;)
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: rge on February 09, 2017, 11:13:45 am
I got a response from Veta support on the power monitoring - they're looking at it, no ETA.

There's nothing in the 3rd Feb beta release, so I read that as "don't hold your breath".

I also replied and asked if they could at least support manual entry of power on child devices, which would possibly be an easy fix.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on February 09, 2017, 11:17:42 am
I got a response from Veta support on the power monitoring - they're looking at it, no ETA.

There's nothing in the 3rd Feb beta release, so I read that as "don't hold your breath".

I also replied and asked if they could at least support manual entry of power on child devices, which would possibly be an easy fix.

You are now officially a member of the "standard answer machine"
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Almighty on February 16, 2017, 03:47:08 am
So what is the current state? I'm going to need another double switch for my home and I'd like to use FGS-223 and both its channels. I don't care about the power monitoring, but I'd like to use double click to launch scenes, is this well implemented? Thanks
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on February 16, 2017, 03:49:48 am
So what is the current state? I'm going to need another double switch for my home and I'd like to use FGS-223 and both its channels. I don't care about the power monitoring, but I'd like to use double click to launch scenes, is this well implemented? Thanks

Yes, if you follow this thread it works.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Almighty on February 16, 2017, 04:01:53 am
I read the whole thread but I didn't find any sign of the double click being supported. Also it seemed to me that I need to make several workarounds (luup, configuration hacks) in order to get the basic functionality.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on February 16, 2017, 04:20:43 am
I read the whole thread but I didn't find any sign of the double click being supported. Also it seemed to me that I need to make several workarounds (luup, configuration hacks) in order to get the basic functionality.

Double click to launch scenes. You can do that via PLEG, not native via the device.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Almighty on February 20, 2017, 05:08:27 am
Double click to launch scenes. You can do that via PLEG, not native via the device.
Can PLEG work with the native functionality described in the attached manual screenshot? I think that this is also worth of native implementation into basic Vera interface.

Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on April 16, 2017, 01:03:48 pm
Double click to launch scenes. You can do that via PLEG, not native via the device.
Can PLEG work with the native functionality described in the attached manual screenshot? I think that this is also worth of native implementation into basic Vera interface.

You can alway do control of device properties in Vera. Alternatively you can use PLEG to use Device values in Vera.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Robinbb on April 21, 2017, 05:32:23 am
Thanks SOSO much people.  I am just getting started and this thread was a lifesaver!
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: berez on April 29, 2017, 06:11:57 pm
Hi

I have followed SENDER procedure, and I am able to control the child switches through vera and see the power consumption of the first channel. However, the status of the child devices does not get updated, only the status of the master is updated according to the first channel.

appreciate any help.

Thanks
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Gadil on May 01, 2017, 06:34:22 am
Hi,
I followed all the steps in this thread (SENDER and the rest - thanks), and would like to make sure that these are the expected results :
1. See attached picture
2. I can see the WATS only in the parent
3. The parent turns off/on ONLY the first switch (_Appliance Module) - I would expect it to turn off/on both of them simultaneously

Thanks,
Gadi
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Gadil on May 01, 2017, 06:36:47 am
Hi,
I followed all the steps in this thread (SENDER and the rest - thanks), and would like to make sure that these are the expected results :
1. See attached picture
2. I can see the WATS only in the parent
3. The parent turns off/on ONLY the first switch (_Appliance Module) - I would expect it to turn off/on both of them simultaneously

Thanks,
Gadi
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on May 01, 2017, 06:42:38 am
There seems to be a fibaro update for reporting the WATTs in the 2nd channel. But unfortunately I cant update device firmware with vera..
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: berez on May 01, 2017, 09:06:00 am
There is no way to update fibaro module firmware through vera? bummer.

For me its mot just the Watt report for the second channel, its also the on/off indication. Is it support to work with the variables modifications?

thanks
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: rge on May 29, 2017, 05:30:01 am
There is a way, but it has to be sanctioned by MCV it isn't driven by users.

If there is definitely a firmware update then we should ask MCV to enable it.

I'm not sure how this is done, other than maybe raising a support ticket?
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: BradyzNZ on June 13, 2017, 05:27:29 pm
I followed the steps in here to get my FGS-233 working and it was fine for about a week but now the second channel won't turn off at all. The UI toggles on/off but the lights stay on. The other channel is controlling LED down lights and still works fine. Could this be caused by bad config or do I have a faulty switch unit?
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: tash on June 15, 2017, 05:54:45 am
Hello all,
I have applied the procedure as per Sender's guide and it works fine in the created scenes but when activating the devices themselves this turns on/off both channels. E.g. Turning on or off _Appliance Module 1 turns both channels on or off. The same for the _Appliance Module 2. Is this the expected behavior or there is something wrong with my setup?
Regards,
Tash
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: tash on June 15, 2017, 09:12:15 am
Hello all,
I have applied the procedure as per Sender's guide and it works fine in the created scenes but when activating the devices themselves this turns on/off both channels. E.g. Turning on or off _Appliance Module 1 turns both channels on or off. The same for the _Appliance Module 2. Is this the expected behavior or there is something wrong with my setup?
Regards,
Tash

Update on this...
I'm not sure if this has anything to do with it or not, but I have added the 38 in the capabilities and now the devices are switching on/off just fine.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: agame on June 20, 2017, 05:35:23 am
unbelievably happy sendr
....followed your advice re deleting capability
....how can vera not directly support such a fundamental device!
....needed both outputs to manage dry relay output for a warema external Venetian.  Now working brilliantly!!
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: rotbard on June 21, 2017, 02:01:37 pm
Was anyone able to delete the 3rd switch of the Fibaro FGS-223  on Vera hedge?
Moved it to ZZZ.... but best to delete it.

I found the answer...  need to run a Lua code:

luup.attr_set("invisible", 1, DEVICE_NUMBER)

The  "DEVICE_NUMBER" should be replaced by a number only.

You have to identify "father" and "sons" of the model under Settings because you don't want to delete the wrong one.
Find the  Device #   you need to delete,

Then on the menu:

* Apps
* Develop Apps
* Edit Startup Lua
*luup.attr_set("invisible", 1, DEVICE_NUMBER)
*GO

To un delete:
luup.attr_set("invisible","", DEVICE_NUMBER)
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: agame on June 21, 2017, 08:57:09 pm
And now a new problem...

- I'm using the Fibaro Double Relay to interface a blind controller (Warema, that has two 240 volt inputs that require a pulse to activate the up/down commands respectively). I have configured each switch to 'auto-off' after one second.

But that doesn't seem to be happening reliably. (I'd rather not do this through scenes as the off command could be missed on a reboot etc.).

- Anyone had a similar problem?
- I cannot find any documentation of the difference between 'auto-off' and 'delay-off' (currently using auto-off). Does anyone understand the distinction???


Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: tash on June 27, 2017, 04:25:45 am
unbelievably happy sendr
....followed your advice re deleting capability
....how can vera not directly support such a fundamental device!
....needed both outputs to manage dry relay output for a warema external Venetian.  Now working brilliantly!!
I highly encourage everybody to log tickets with vera for this. Here is the support link: http://support.getvera.com/customer/widget/emails/new?
 Who knows it might get some attention in the end.
This will reflect in a cost for them since they have to manage all of those, but will be essential to make them understand that vera has to cope with the basics first before getting to  I don't know what  cutting edge technology  integrations...
This is what  I got from their support as a response for my ticket:

"Hello,

Thank you for contacting Vera Control customer care.

We currently have this model on our radar but not for an early date. We still need to take care of some other integations such as Google Home, IFTTT and other devices that are in an advanced phase of the integration process. Please stay tuned to our social media to know more about future integrations.

twitter.com/veralovers
facebook.com/veracontrol

Regards,

Juan Pablo ▾ Customer Care Advocate
Vera Control, Ltd. ▾ Smarter Home Control "
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: agame on June 29, 2017, 02:42:17 am
as per my above posts I now have this working perfectly, following sender's instructions. so there is no reason to not use this switch if you are capable of fiddling with parameter settings.

I don't need second channel power monitoring (given I'm using used as a momentary relay to trigger another device).

Only caveat is haven't found the device responds as documented to certain parameter changes (e.g. auto off time).  I have seen very odd and seemingly unpredictable switching off behaviour. I've dealt with this in scenes/luup.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: jeje13160 on July 18, 2017, 10:44:41 pm
Hello,

When you say it's working perfectly after the different changes (38, new variable, Luup code),  don't you have a delay of few seconds (from 2 to 10!) sometimes when you (de)activate relay #1 ?
It seems to be due to secure commands which are not correctly understanded by the device (or vera)
I can read it in the tail -f Lua...log.

Thank for your answer.

Jerome
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: ogudet on July 28, 2017, 08:47:48 am
Thanks to Sender for the proposed solutions.
I've initially created the virtual switches and that works fine.
I've also tried to trigger the scene with the "real" switches, and that works fine, then there is no need to create virtual switches.
This will ease the transition when the Vera support will adapt the firmware to support this device.

This was done on a Vera Plus with the latest firmware.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: jeje13160 on July 28, 2017, 10:07:03 am
Thanks to Sender for the proposed solutions.
I've initially created the virtual switches and that works fine.
I've also tried to trigger the scene with the "real" switches, and that works fine, then there is no need to create virtual switches.
This will ease the transition when the Vera support will adapt the firmware to support this device.

This was done on a Vera Plus with the latest firmware.

You don't have a randomly but frequently slow reaction of the Vera when you activate the relays by scenes for example? Because I have this problem on vera3 and Vera plus. The last firmware haven't fixed this issue and I've still tried to have an answer from the vera support!
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: therealdb on July 31, 2017, 10:51:00 am
Has anyone succeeded in getting response from double or triple clicks? I changed params 28 and 29 to 7, I can see from logs that the commands are sent, but only for the first channel. Second channel seems to always trigger single click.
In any case, sl_CentralScene seems to always be 1 for the first channel as well.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: ogudet on August 01, 2017, 03:27:46 am
Thanks to Sender for the proposed solutions.
I've initially created the virtual switches and that works fine.
I've also tried to trigger the scene with the "real" switches, and that works fine, then there is no need to create virtual switches.
This will ease the transition when the Vera support will adapt the firmware to support this device.

This was done on a Vera Plus with the latest firmware.

You don't have a randomly but frequently slow reaction of the Vera when you activate the relays by scenes for example? Because I have this problem on vera3 and Vera plus. The last firmware haven't fixed this issue and I've still tried to have an answer from the vera support!

I didn't notice the behaviour you mention
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on August 04, 2017, 05:51:05 am
What I really do not understand is why this device is still not natively supported after several firmware updates.

What is the strategy of Vera in regards to zwave support?

http://support.getvera.com/customer/portal/articles/2846009
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: zedrally on August 04, 2017, 07:12:40 pm
I don't think it is only this device. It appears to be a common denominator in ANY 2 channel relay device that Vera attempts to support. After several months of CS fiddling and tweaking, I'm still waiting on a FW upgrade that properly supports Philio/Black Cat Double relays (yes they do work but you need to hassle CS to go into the unit and add some magic).

Frankly, it's a ridiculous situation as these devices are supported correctly by other HA Software, yet after this length of time there is no indication apart from it's on the to do list.

Having played with ZUNO and C+, it has become perfectly clear that VERA is not properly coded (or interpreting) for any 2 or more channels (MULTI_CHANNEL) SWITCH indicating a lack of being able to correctly implement Endpoints and is unable to support Instant Notifications (Lifeline Group) in MULTI_CHANNEL

Sadly, by not supporting even the most basic functions (COMMAND_CLASSES) properly renders VERA a play toy that can't be taken seriously by the hobbyist segment, so I wouldn't hold your breath for a resolution in the near future.



edit: resolved ambiguity BINARY_SWITCH / MULTI_CHANNEL SWITCH
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: neptunix on August 10, 2017, 07:19:54 am
Hi everyone.
I've recently added 3 FGS-222 modules to Vera Plus (UI7) and can state that they work out of the box.
I have 3 devices: master + slave 1 + slave 2.
I use slave 1 and slave 2 to control channels Q1 and Q2 respectively and using physical buttons toggles the state in Vera just fine.
But I don't see any power metering even for first channel. I've read the thread and looks like everyone has power metering with no additional settings. Do I miss something?

Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: RitterIwan on August 10, 2017, 07:30:16 am
Hi neptunix,

the FGS-222 (the predecessor of FGS-223) indeed runs out the box. But it doesn't have any energy measuring functionality.
The power metering was introduced with the FGS-223. That's why you don't see the current power for the channels.

Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: neptunix on August 11, 2017, 05:16:32 am
Hi RitterIwan,

Thanks, I didn't know that and was wondering about the differences between FGS-222/223
Sad   :(
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: RitterIwan on August 11, 2017, 05:30:30 am
Hi,

another - maybe more important - difference is the abilty of the FGS-222 (the previous version) to swich an independent load. The FGS-223 can only switch the load it is powered from. The FGS-222 is able to switch an independent circuit, e.g. 24V)
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: neptunix on August 11, 2017, 07:16:15 am
Yeah, that is a major difference! Thanks for mentioning!
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: martynwendon on September 28, 2017, 02:52:10 pm
While the solution mentioned earlier in the thread works to some extent, it's not really correct and doesn't fix the power reporting.

It pains me that this device was released nearly a year ago and Vera still hasn't figured it out ...... in fact their support techs are punting out the fix from this very thread as a "solution".

I think zedrally mentioned it earlier, this is a multi-channel device supporting multi-channel Association, so the first problem is that Vera try to control the device using the wrong command class, it expects the Binary Switch command class to be used and *sent* to the right endpoint and to be security encapsulated.

Then, ALL it needs for local (switch) status reporting to work and the channel power reporting to work is the *correct* multi-channel Association setting and it will magically spring to life. 

So, if you fancy testing this on a newly Included FGS-223 (or want to Exclude an existing one and then Include it again) all you need to do is the following:

1) Fix the control from the UI by creating a new Service Variable on the child devices to make Vera use the Binary Switch command class to control them:

Code: [Select]
Service ID: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveDevice1
Variable: SetTargetCommandClass
Value: 37

Reload the engine each time and refresh your browser in between.

2) Fix the local switch change reporting and power reporting by opening up the test lua window and running the following commands one at a time, leaving 30 seconds or so between each one. 

In both these commands replace '20' with the Z-Wave NODE ID of the PARENT device on your FGS-223 (shown on the SETTINGS tab like "ID20"):

Code: [Select]
luup.call_action('urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1','SendData',{Node='20',Data='133 4 1 1'},1)
The above command deletes the current Association to group 1.  The following command adds the multi-channel Association to group 1 that is required.

Code: [Select]
luup.call_action('urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1','SendData',{Node='20',Data='142 1 1 0 1 1'},1)
3) Optional - set POLLING to ZERO to stop Vera from unnecessarily polling a device that supports instant status, instant meter reports, etc, etc.

That should be all that's required to get the device working FULLY with each child device on the UI controlling the correct channel on the device and both local switch change reporting and power reporting working correctly for each channel.

The parent device will still control channel 1 on the device but will no longer show power readings nor local switch change status updates - really, parent devices in a multi-channel device should be set to have no function other than allowing you to set device parameters, or perhaps reporting parent device information such as a battery level.

I still find controlling this device from Vera takes a few seconds to update the UI although the device itself does switch instantly (using either this method or the earlier mentioned method). There appears to be some craziness with Z-Wave going on which results in a myriad of tries and retries before an ACK is received, not sure what's going on there so will have to leave that one to Vera to sort out!


I tested this multiple times with multiple FGS-223 across multiple test Vera and it worked every time, your mileage may vary of course and no guarantees it will work, but it would be interesting to hear feedback from other people.

Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: Sender on September 28, 2017, 03:00:07 pm
What bothers me the most is that zwave device support is lacked at all. Also this new version beta 7.0.23 doesn't mention a LOAD of new zwave devices. Which it should do in my opinion.

The horror of non supported zwave devices in vera gets bigger by day...
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: martynwendon on September 29, 2017, 04:45:52 am
Yes it's frustrating to say the least ...... I guess all those Samsung Appliance users are well happy though  ::)
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: rge on September 29, 2017, 04:46:43 am
While the solution mentioned earlier in the thread works to some extent, it's not really correct and doesn't fix the power reporting.

It pains me that this device was released nearly a year ago and Vera still hasn't figured it out ...... in fact their support techs are punting out the fix from this very thread as a "solution".

I think zedrally mentioned it earlier, this is a multi-channel device supporting multi-channel Association, so the first problem is that Vera try to control the device using the wrong command class, it expects the Binary Switch command class to be used and *sent* to the right endpoint and to be security encapsulated.

Then, ALL it needs for local (switch) status reporting to work and the channel power reporting to work is the *correct* multi-channel Association setting and it will magically spring to life. 

So, if you fancy testing this on a newly Included FGS-223 (or want to Exclude an existing one and then Include it again) all you need to do is the following:

1) Fix the control from the UI by creating a new Service Variable on the child devices to make Vera use the Binary Switch command class to control them:

Code: [Select]
Service ID: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveDevice1
Variable: SetTargetCommandClass
Value: 37

Reload the engine each time and refresh your browser in between.

2) Fix the local switch change reporting and power reporting by opening up the test lua window and running the following commands one at a time, leaving 30 seconds or so between each one. 

In both these commands replace '20' with the Z-Wave NODE ID of the PARENT device on your FGS-223 (shown on the SETTINGS tab like "ID20"):

Code: [Select]
luup.call_action('urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1','SendData',{Node='20',Data='133 4 1 1'},1)
The above command deletes the current Association to group 1.  The following command adds the multi-channel Association to group 1 that is required.

Code: [Select]
luup.call_action('urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1','SendData',{Node='20',Data='142 1 1 0 1 1'},1)
3) Optional - set POLLING to ZERO to stop Vera from unnecessarily polling a device that supports instant status, instant meter reports, etc, etc.

That should be all that's required to get the device working FULLY with each child device on the UI controlling the correct channel on the device and both local switch change reporting and power reporting working correctly for each channel.

The parent device will still control channel 1 on the device but will no longer show power readings nor local switch change status updates - really, parent devices in a multi-channel device should be set to have no function other than allowing you to set device parameters, or perhaps reporting parent device information such as a battery level.

I still find controlling this device from Vera takes a few seconds to update the UI although the device itself does switch instantly (using either this method or the earlier mentioned method). There appears to be some craziness with Z-Wave going on which results in a myriad of tries and retries before an ACK is received, not sure what's going on there so will have to leave that one to Vera to sort out!


I tested this multiple times with multiple FGS-223 across multiple test Vera and it worked every time, your mileage may vary of course and no guarantees it will work, but it would be interesting to hear feedback from other people.

Superb!

Haven't tried this yet, but are the changes persistent?  Or will it all revert on upgrade / reboot?

Does something similar enable instant status on the FGS-213?
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: martynwendon on September 29, 2017, 08:25:40 am
Superb!

Haven't tried this yet, but are the changes persistent?  Or will it all revert on upgrade / reboot?

Does something similar enable instant status on the FGS-213?

They should be persistent since the variables are created on the child devices and the Associations are made on the device itself using raw Z-Wave commands.  The only caveat might be if you do a "reconfigure node" on the parent device which sometimes triggers Vera to tear down and recreate all the child devices.

FGS-213 should be working already out-of-the-box as it's only a single channel device, all mine work fine for instant status / power reporting.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: souly75 on October 08, 2017, 04:19:31 pm
Thank you so much @martynwendon
Your workaround helped me to bring the 2nd channel to life :)
greetings from a newbie from Germany :)
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: martynwendon on October 08, 2017, 05:52:22 pm
Thank you so much @martynwendon
Your workaround helped me to bring the 2nd channel to life :)
greetings from a newbie from Germany :)

Glad it's working for you!  Do you have both the local switch status and power reporting working now for both channels?
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: souly75 on October 08, 2017, 05:55:59 pm
Thank you so much @martynwendon
Your workaround helped me to bring the 2nd channel to life :)
greetings from a newbie from Germany :)

Glad it's working for you!  Do you have both the local switch status and power reporting working now for both channels?
No I don't have the energy status, but for me that doesn't matter. The switch reacts as planned.
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: RitterIwan on October 09, 2017, 10:56:31 am
Hi martynwendon,

it works like a charme. Including energy metering. It's amazing how you figured it out.

My standing ovations to you  :D
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: martynwendon on October 09, 2017, 12:12:39 pm
Hi martynwendon,

it works like a charme. Including energy metering. It's amazing how you figured it out.

My standing ovations to you  :D

Thanks for confirming  :D

I'll take the ovations, but really, it's not rocket science, which makes it even more painful that it's been nearly a year and Vera still haven't fixed it (along with a myriad of other multi-channel devices).
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: kwieto on October 11, 2017, 06:30:34 pm
For me metering on the second channel is still missing.
Device reports status change in case if it was turned on/off by physical switch, but only 1st channel reports energy.

I don't know, the device which I have connected to the second channel is very low-power (between 0,5 and 1,5W), so maybe Fibaro has default threshold for reporting set above that values (I have similar device connected to Qubino Flush 2 relays, it reports both channels correctly regardless how low power consumption is).
I used the solution provided earlier (adding variable basic set capabilities with values "00=F0,FF=O0"), maybe this causes the problem? But why only for second channel?
If yes, how to revert that change?


Another question: Qubino, mentioned above, does not support reporting change of status if switched manually. Can using the solution for Fibaro help here?

Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: martynwendon on October 12, 2017, 11:39:24 am
I used the solution provided earlier (adding variable basic set capabilities with values "00=F0,FF=O0"), maybe this causes the problem?

Yes, you need to use the solution in this post http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,38961.msg330555.html#msg330555

Most people seem to be reporting that this is working OK.

If yes, how to revert that change?

I would suggest Excluding the device and Including it again and starting fresh with the instructions from the post above.

Another question: Qubino, mentioned above, does not support reporting change of status if switched manually. Can using the solution for Fibaro help here?

Directly, no.  The same "technique", probably. 

You'll need a Z-Wave Sniffer (like ZNiffer) or something like the CIT ( https://z-wavealliance.org/cit/ ) to view the raw Z-Wave so that you can work out what command classes and type of associations need to be added and then work out how to configure that with Vera (if possible).

Or, keep pestering Vera Support, repeatedly, to make these devices work properly out-of-the-box.  Qubino Flush 2 Relay Plus is only what, 2 years old now?
Title: Re: Fibaro FGS-223 second channel not working with Vera Edge
Post by: kwieto on October 12, 2017, 01:02:51 pm
But I'm Talking about this one:
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,38961.msg302908.html#msg302908

Should I undo these changes?