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Title: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: HouseBot on October 25, 2014, 01:45:37 pm
Have anybody tried to add this light bulb to Vera with positive result?
http://www.zipato.com/default.aspx?id=24&pid=81&page=1&grupe= (http://www.zipato.com/default.aspx?id=24&pid=81&page=1&grupe=)
I like to know before I make the order.

Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: ChuTn3Y on October 30, 2014, 08:22:25 am
Yeah good question, if somebody can give us an answer .. Thanks
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: uros76 on October 31, 2014, 10:15:01 am
I bought one and its not fully supported by Vera. I get only dimable white lamp with limited settings. No RGB support. It is more or less designed for zipato environment.
Probably will sell mine soon...
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: ChuTn3Y on October 31, 2014, 08:32:46 pm
I bought one and its not fully supported by Vera. I get only dimable white lamp with limited settings. No RGB support. It is more or less designed for zipato environment.
Probably will sell mine soon...

Thx for your answer ! Are you in UI7 or less ?
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: uros76 on November 03, 2014, 03:52:15 am
I am on UI5. Hearing bad reviews for UI7 so I am not planning an upgrade any soon.
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: ideschamps on November 19, 2014, 01:36:08 am
Got one of these yesterday. Able to configure it on UI7, but as previously posted only warm white and dimmable. Keep on getting Failed at getting manufacturer info. I have logged a ticket with MIOS to add support for this.

One downside I have seen is that if you put your power switch back on it doesn't go to previous level, need to control it via the Vera interface to put it back on. Could be just because of the configuration.

Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: JS007 on December 03, 2014, 03:00:37 pm
just got one of these Zipato bulbs too, installed on VeraEdge, UI7 (1.7.850) , same thing

only warm white on\off and dimmable, no color options,  and also keep on getting Failed at getting manufacturer info

this is a Zwave Plus device

opened ticket with support and gave them access to a vistacam pointed at light to help them troubleshoot issue
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: garrettfarmer on December 22, 2014, 01:32:16 am
Has anyone received any feedback from support on the RGBW bulb yet?
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: ITechGeek on December 30, 2014, 08:07:38 am
Has support looked at this issue yet?
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: JS007 on December 30, 2014, 12:25:25 pm
have not heard back on any updates yet

"Failed at getting manufacturer" is fixed, but still no color, for now it's just an on\off dimable white bulb
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: JS007 on December 30, 2014, 05:14:48 pm
this is the a doc on it, thought not sure how to set the option #1

http://www.pepper1.net/zwavedb/device/587

Paramter No.    1    Size    1    Default    50
Name    Color temperature
Description    Configuration option 1 is used to adjust color temperature. Values range from 0 to 100 where 0 means full cold white and 100 means full warm white.
Type    range
Values    
1 - 100      ->      Color temperature


ETA : never mind, that is just the white temperature anyways, that works
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: martynwendon on January 29, 2015, 06:09:36 am
We recently tested the Zipatio RGBW LED Bulb in Vera and came up with a workaround to control the colour channels.

More information at http://www.vesternet.com/resources/application-notes/apnt-91


Hope that helps!


Martyn@Vesternet
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: garrettfarmer on February 01, 2015, 04:58:49 pm
I have tried the work around with no success.

Lua Test results below, but no color change:

LuaTest 1.6

Lua file: /etc/cmh-ludl/luatest.lua

Results
No errors
Runtime: 1.6 ms
Code returned: nil

Print output
(none)

Code
   1   luup.call_action('urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1','SendData',{Node='6',Data='51 5 2 2 125'},1)
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: vosmont on February 03, 2015, 04:45:29 am
Perhaps the plugin RGB Controller is able to manage the Zipato Bulb (it uses Zwave commands to set RGB color)
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: JS007 on February 04, 2015, 12:09:58 pm
We recently tested the Zipatio RGBW LED Bulb in Vera and came up with a workaround to control the colour channels.

More information at http://www.vesternet.com/resources/application-notes/apnt-91


Hope that helps!


Martyn@Vesternet

thanks, that did work for me

luup.call_action('urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1','SendData',{Node='58',Data='51 5 2 4 255'},1)

made it blue as an example, the 255 is full brightness, the 58 is my device id in the setting section

doesn't seem to always take though
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: vosmont on February 04, 2015, 12:28:33 pm
You could test

Code: [Select]
luup.call_action("urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1", "SendData", {Node = 58, Data = "0x33 0x05 0x06 0x02 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x04 0xFF"}, 1)

for set the 3 channels RGB at the same time (02:Red, 03:Green, 04:Blue)
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: garrettfarmer on February 07, 2015, 12:17:04 am
I cannot get it to work I am trying this using luaTest 1.6, and I seem to get a valid response:
LuaTest 1.6

Lua file: /etc/cmh-ludl/luatest.lua

Results
No errors
Runtime: 1.4 ms
Code returned: nil

Print output
(none)

Code
   1   luup.call_action("urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1", "SendData", {Node = 6, Data = "0x33 0x05 0x06 0x02 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x04 0xFF"}, 1)


where did you run the code from, within a scene or from the luaTest, and was the bulb already on when you ran the code?
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: JS007 on February 12, 2015, 12:51:06 pm
You could test

Code: [Select]
luup.call_action("urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1", "SendData", {Node = 58, Data = "0x33 0x05 0x06 0x02 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x04 0xFF"}, 1)

for set the 3 channels RGB at the same time (02:Red, 03:Green, 04:Blue)

that made it a brighter white from what it was (dimed white)

I ran code for the apps\developer apps section
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: vitmar on February 24, 2015, 05:16:00 pm
I have had no luck at getting a Zipato RGBW Bulb work properly with my Vera, that is to get the colors working.

I have tried everything Ive found on google, including http://www.vesternet.com/resources/application-notes/apnt-91 and nothing works (yes I changed the NodeID).

I contacted the Vera support and asked about that "Guaranteed compatibility" policy and they replied:
"By default the Zipato RGBW can only be used with the white colour and until someone manages to create a plugin for it..." and then they referred to the vesternet page above. I expected them to create the plugins needed for my devices to work.

If anyone have more input on how to make all colors work, please reply in this thread!

(btw, this forum have the worst captcha ive ever seen!)
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: garrettfarmer on February 25, 2015, 01:25:53 pm
I agree I have tried for hours using the suggested work around with absolutely not luck.

Please can someone from Vera respond to this and give us a way to use the tech we have paid for!!!!!

(Yes and the captcha sucks!)
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: tiaanv on March 26, 2015, 02:59:53 pm
OK... just fyi.... I struggled with this, and was just about to write it off,  then I played aroung with the RGB controller Plugin... it's really designed to work with the Fibaro RGBW module, but it at least it made the zipato bulb change colors, albeit incorrectly... then when i looked at my upnp log, I saw that the NODE that it was sending the setcolour command data to was NOT the NODEID of the actual device.... it was the ALTID...  In my setup the normal ID for this node is 127, but the ALTID is 12..... when I changed the Luup code from
expected:

luup.call_action('urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1','SendData',{Node='127',Data='51 5 10 0 0 1 0 2 0 3 0 4 50'},1);
to:

luup.call_action('urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1','SendData',{Node='12',Data='51 5 10 0 0 1 0 2 0 3 0 4 50'},1);


BOOM!!! Presto it works charmingly!!!


My next objective it to modify the RGBcontroller plugin code to work with the Zipato RGBW Bulb... I'll have it done in a day or two, hectic schedule for the weekend permitting.


Hope this helps some of you!


EDIT:  No need to edit the existing RGB Controller plugin really.... if you set the deviceID in the variables to the Zipato Bulb's ID it just works...  Quite well :)



Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: vosmont on March 27, 2015, 04:11:33 am
@tiaanv

I was about to suggest you to just change this variable "deviceId"  :)

Delighted that the plugin also works with the Zipato.
I will change the panel to let the ability to set this device.
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: tiaanv on March 27, 2015, 04:23:04 am
@tiaanv

I was about to suggest you to just change this variable "deviceId"  :)

Delighted that the plugin also works with the Zipato.
I will change the panel to let the ability to set this device.


Hey @vosmont


Awesome.  I might be slightly hijacking this thread, but I get some weird behavior when using the sliders.  The #RGBW don'ts always reflect the slider movements I made, but using the wheel seems to work better.  I think this might just be some UI7 fun!


Thx for the update!!


BTW... your plugin rocks!
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: JS007 on March 28, 2015, 03:56:42 am
very cool, I was able to issue the command above with the altid

and was able to use the RGBW plugin adding the device id (not the altid) manually as well
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: vosmont on March 30, 2015, 05:21:37 am
Hello,

could you test one by one these lines of code, and confirm that the good color appears ?

Code: [Select]
-- Red
luup.call_action("urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1", "SendData", {Node = <zwaveNodeId>, Data = "0x33 0x05 0x04 0x02 0xFF 0x03 0x00 0x04 0x00 0x00 0x00"}, 1)

-- Blue
luup.call_action("urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1", "SendData", {Node = <zwaveNodeId>, Data = "0x33 0x05 0x04 0x02 0x00 0x03 0xFF 0x04 0x00 0x00 0x00"}, 1)

-- Green
luup.call_action("urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1", "SendData", {Node = <zwaveNodeId>, Data = "0x33 0x05 0x04 0x02 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x04 0xFF 0x00 0x00"}, 1)

-- White
luup.call_action("urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1", "SendData", {Node = <zwaveNodeId>, Data = "0x33 0x05 0x04 0x02 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x04 0x00 0x00 0xFF"}, 1)

I've fixed a bug in the plugin for the Fibaro device and I would like to know if it still works with the Zipato.

It seems that the size of following data, in multiple colour channels, is the number of colors (1 byte for the color and  byte for the value) and not the number of bytes to send.
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: JS007 on March 31, 2015, 09:19:20 pm
-- Red
luup.call_action("urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1", "SendData", {Node = <zwaveNodeId>, Data = "0x33 0x05 0x04 0x02 0xFF 0x03 0x00 0x04 0x00 0x00 0x00"}, 1)

the above was red very light red, probable by bulb design though, not sure

-- Blue
luup.call_action("urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1", "SendData", {Node = <zwaveNodeId>, Data = "0x33 0x05 0x04 0x02 0x00 0x03 0xFF 0x04 0x00 0x00 0x00"}, 1)

the above was green...

-- Green
luup.call_action("urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1", "SendData", {Node = <zwaveNodeId>, Data = "0x33 0x05 0x04 0x02 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x04 0xFF 0x00 0x00"}, 1)

the above was blue

-- White
luup.call_action("urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1", "SendData", {Node = <zwaveNodeId>, Data = "0x33 0x05 0x04 0x02 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x04 0x00 0x00 0xFF"}, 1)

Yellow I think, looked yellow to me anyways :)

fyi - the color wheel on version  0.9 of the RGB Controller plugin is showing correct colors, same as see above
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: vosmont on April 01, 2015, 03:26:14 am
OK  :)
I was wrong, I reversed blue and green

Last thing, could you test this line ?
Code: [Select]
-- Cool white
luup.call_action("urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1", "SendData", {Node = <zwaveNodeId>, Data = "0x33 0x05 0x05 0x02 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x04 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x01 0xFF"}, 1)
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: JS007 on April 01, 2015, 04:11:33 am
OK  :)
I was wrong, I reversed blue and green

Last thing, could you test this line ?
Code: [Select]
-- Cool white
luup.call_action("urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1", "SendData", {Node = <zwaveNodeId>, Data = "0x33 0x05 0x05 0x02 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x04 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x01 0xFF"}, 1)

was bright white
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: vosmont on April 01, 2015, 05:23:17 am
ok thanks

I will release a new version of the RGB Controller compliant with the Zipato RGBW Bulb.
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: JS007 on April 01, 2015, 10:23:44 am
ok thanks

I will release a new version of the RGB Controller compliant with the Zipato RGBW Bulb.

cool, thanks for your support on this, much appreciated, great plugin for the Zipato Bulb....


.
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: vosmont on April 02, 2015, 11:44:32 am
The version 1.0 of the plugin RGB Controller has been approved.
It should be compatible with the Zipato RGBW Bulb.
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: JS007 on April 02, 2015, 09:59:15 pm
The version 1.0 of the plugin RGB Controller has been approved.
It should be compatible with the Zipato RGBW Bulb.
tried the update method, got "BAD_PLUGIN" message

http://192.168.1.151:3480/data_request?id=update_plugin&Plugin=6686

did a uninstall and reinstall

looks like now turns on and off, but no color changes, rebooted, still no color changes though
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: JS007 on April 02, 2015, 11:51:07 pm
just to add to that, when i click on the color wheel, I get "#NANNANNAN" in the box below regardless of where i click on it
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: vosmont on April 03, 2015, 03:59:59 am
Ok, I've reproduced the bug on Firefox.

Waiting for a correction, it works on Chrome.

Sorry for this buggy version.
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: vosmont on April 03, 2015, 10:30:20 am
Here is a patch pending a new version
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: JS007 on April 03, 2015, 09:00:35 pm
Here is a patch pending a new version

thanks, that worked, I have to say this bulb doesn't have the most color in it, more of a tint of color but can see it change (think it's the bulb though not the plugin)
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: tiaanv on April 04, 2015, 03:49:32 am
Here is a patch pending a new version

thanks, that worked, I have to say this bulb doesn't have the most color in it, more of a tint of color but can see it change (think it's the bulb though not the plugin)
You will get that effect if the warm white channel is also on.. Make sure it is off.
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: JS007 on April 04, 2015, 10:55:33 pm
how do I disable the warm white channel?
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: tiaanv on April 07, 2015, 02:24:20 am
how do I disable the warm white channel?


You need to send the color change command as explained in this thread.... to see a breakdown of the channels look here:
http://www.vesternet.com/resources/application-notes/apnt-91 (http://www.vesternet.com/resources/application-notes/apnt-91)


Also remember that when sending the command you might need to use the ALTID of your device for the "NODE" value as explained in here... I would set ALL the color channels to 0x00.  Then you should get pure colors


T
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: JS007 on April 08, 2015, 04:09:51 pm
how do I disable the warm white channel?


You need to send the color change command as explained in this thread.... to see a breakdown of the channels look here:
http://www.vesternet.com/resources/application-notes/apnt-91 (http://www.vesternet.com/resources/application-notes/apnt-91)


Also remember that when sending the command you might need to use the ALTID of your device for the "NODE" value as explained in here... I would set ALL the color channels to 0x00.  Then you should get pure colors


T

wow, real colors, I ran this, then the plug in worked great

luup.call_action('urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1','SendData',{Node='56',Data='51 5 10 0 0 1 0 2 50 3 75 4 125'},1)

nice dark colors

I do have to turn the plugin off then back on every so often as colors stop changing, then works again
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: vosmont on April 09, 2015, 05:15:56 am
@tiaanv or @JS007
As I haven't got a Zipato, I'm not able to test by myself.

If I understand well your post, the "Color Control" Z-Wave Command Class should set cool white to "0" in order to be able to control the other colors (red, green, blue and warm white) ?

Other questions :
- When you send the zwave command, is the Zipato module turned on, on the Vera UI ?
- When you change colors, is the slider for cool white color on the Zipato module changed too ?
- If the Zipato module is turned off on Vera UI, is it possible to change the colors ?
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: tiaanv on April 09, 2015, 05:29:06 am
@tiaanv or @JS007
As I haven't got a Zipato, I'm not able to test by myself.

If I understand well your post, the "Color Control" Z-Wave Command Class should set cool white to "0" in order to be able to control the other colors (red, green, blue and warm white) ?

Other questions :
- When you send the zwave command, is the Zipato module turned on, on the Vera UI ?
- When you change colors, is the slider for cool white color on the Zipato module changed too ?
- If the Zipato module is turned off on Vera UI, is it possible to change the colors ?
Hi V

The zipato is not properly supported by Vera,  so it actually only appears as a single dimmable lamp.   The slider controls the cool/warm white channel.   Can't remember which one.   I will verify the various states this evening for you.  As far as I can remember the lamp does not have to be on. In fact if you switch it on you get the effect mentioned before.

I'll get back to you.
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: JS007 on April 11, 2015, 10:59:36 pm
@tiaanv or @JS007
As I haven't got a Zipato, I'm not able to test by myself.

If I understand well your post, the "Color Control" Z-Wave Command Class should set cool white to "0" in order to be able to control the other colors (red, green, blue and warm white) ?

Other questions :
- When you send the zwave command, is the Zipato module turned on, on the Vera UI ?
- When you change colors, is the slider for cool white color on the Zipato module changed too ?
- If the Zipato module is turned off on Vera UI, is it possible to change the colors ?

once ran that command above, turning it on off from the other contol, changing the dimmer, ect... doesn't seem to break it

I can't get it back to not working now ( the bright white flooding the color )

if I turn the light off from the device itself, when I just turn it off then on from the plugin and it works again as expected

- When you send the zwave command, is the Zipato module turned on, on the Vera UI ?
        it's on, as soon as you turn the plugin on, the device goes on and full power
- When you change colors, is the slider for cool white color on the Zipato module changed too ?
        no, it stays wherever I set it
- If the Zipato module is turned off on Vera UI, is it possible to change the colors ?
       no, when it's off can't change colors, if turn plugin off\on then it also turns device on and full level but still dark rich colors

Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: Big Moose on April 15, 2015, 07:26:23 pm
Just received two Zipato's and they are pretty sweet - thanks for the plugin Vosmont, works like a charm!


Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: vosmont on April 16, 2015, 03:46:33 am
@Big Moose,
you're welcome  :)

There's still a problem with cool white against RGB / warm white.
I will propose a new version soon.
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: vosmont on May 11, 2015, 06:14:40 pm
Here is a new version, before sending the version 1.2

Change log :
- should handle correctly cool white on Zipato RGBW Bulb (can not test as I haven't a Zipato Bulb)
- new RGB device type : Hyperion Remote (https://github.com/tvdzwan/hyperion/wiki (https://github.com/tvdzwan/hyperion/wiki))
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: JS007 on May 12, 2015, 03:07:18 am
Here is a new version, before sending the version 1.2

Change log :
- should handle correctly cool white on Zipato RGBW Bulb (can not test as I haven't a Zipato Bulb)
- new RGB device type : Hyperion Remote (https://github.com/tvdzwan/hyperion/wiki (https://github.com/tvdzwan/hyperion/wiki))

I installed and everything seems to be working as should, though the last version was working for me after that one command and I could not manually break after that again, so not sure my test is best to confirm, all I can say is working for me :)

thanks,
John

Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: vosmont on July 06, 2015, 10:28:48 am
Hello,
the version 1.3 of the plugin RGB Controller fixes some bug with the Zipato RGBW Bulb.
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,32613.0.html

It should be noted that the dimmer created by the Vera is not just for white color but controls the main power of the bulb.
Title: Re: Zipato RGBW Bulb
Post by: kevink619 on September 12, 2016, 08:33:47 pm
How does the Zapato bulb compare to the Aeon one? Trying to get any animations to work with the Aeon has been an absolute nightmare. I'm about ready to return the thing.