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Title: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 27, 2015, 02:06:13 pm
Anyone interested in iAqualink control or have done any work on it?

I see Crestron has it setup.
http://applicationmarket.crestron.com/jandy-iaqualink/
PDF Help manual here:
https://store-8ue58.mybigcommerce.com/content/Help/Jandy/Jandy_iAquaLink_v1_0_Help.pdf

Also know that ioBridge is the one who built the iAqualink and they have an API out for their product, but not sure if that helps.
http://blog.iobridge.com/tag/iaqualink/
API info here:
http://connect.iobridge.com/api/
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: rstrouse on January 27, 2015, 02:39:39 pm
I am in the process of creating a plugin for Pentair Intellitouch/EasyTouch.  Although this really is geared toward the Pentair equipment and simulates the remote panel operation, some of the concepts may be similar.  I will be releasing a new beta this week that includes support for Intelliflo VS/VF pumps and Intellichlor.   Perhaps some of that code can help.  There is also an option for simulating pool control that doesn't require a Pentair system.

http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,30275.msg216081.html#msg216081
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: niharmehta on February 08, 2015, 03:23:22 am
I currently use an iAqualink and would love a plugin for Vera to support it natively.  The eventual plan was to get an Autelis for Vera integration, but could not justify the cost for now.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: rstrouse on February 08, 2015, 01:25:04 pm
I currently use an iAqualink and would love a plugin for Vera to support it natively.  The eventual plan was to get an Autelis for Vera integration, but could not justify the cost for now.

I have been using the plugin I created that includes support for all the specialized Pentair equipment. Intellichlor, Intellibrite, Intelliflo, macro circuits, freeze protection, and the like.  I have control/monitoring of every piece of equipment attached to my pool including pumps, lights, and chemistry.

I do not have the equipment for controlling Jandy/Zodiac gear but in looking at the API from Autelis it doesn't look too far from the requirements for the Pentair gear.  If someone with all the equipment were willing to work with me on this I think we could get a plugin running in short order.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: niharmehta on February 08, 2015, 02:11:08 pm
I am happy to work with you to test a plugin.  Are you thinking of linking to the ioBridge  API like the Crestron?  I don't think the iAqualink provides a direct interface to the control system. This is what the Autelis provided using its connection to the bus.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 08, 2015, 02:52:24 pm
I currently use an iAqualink and would love a plugin for Vera to support it natively.  The eventual plan was to get an Autelis for Vera integration, but could not justify the cost for now.

I have been using the plugin I created that includes support for all the specialized Pentair equipment. Intellichlor, Intellibrite, Intelliflo, macro circuits, freeze protection, and the like.  I have control/monitoring of every piece of equipment attached to my pool including pumps, lights, and chemistry.

I do not have the equipment for controlling Jandy/Zodiac gear but in looking at the API from Autelis it doesn't look too far from the requirements for the Pentair gear.  If someone with all the equipment were willing to work with me on this I think we could get a plugin running in short order.

I would also be willing to help out as much as possible, but with the pool at a vacation house and this not the season, my availability my be an issue currently.

Edit: With that said tho, there is quite a bit we can do with remotely and I would be willing to possibly opening up access to allow some testing.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: rstrouse on February 08, 2015, 03:58:54 pm
I am thinking of interfacing with Autelis like I did for the Pentair integration.  I wanted to integrate my pool with Intellitouch, so originally looked at tying it all together with a ScreenLogic TC-15/RS-485 from Pentair but the protocol translation is binary proprietary.  It really isn't built to use for integration although some have tried and there are numerous hacks to get it to work so it was a frontier effort. 

Then I found an Autelis plugin for HS3 which almost had me making the switch to HomeSeer.  I did a bunch of research on HS3 but, in the end chose to build a plugin interface for the Autelis/Pentair firmware before my Autelis even arrived.  This turned out to be a pretty good decision and I liked the results so I shared it on the forum.

ioBridge looks like it is similar to Autelis but it appears (I may be wrong but I didn't see it in the API docs) to lack the status notification and would require polling to get notifications of a change.  For instance, I have a macro that sets up the spa for night mode which first turns off the pool, waits for the circuits to rotate valves, turns on the fire, cranks up the heater, and finally sets the lights.  This process occurs over about a 10 second period.  During each phase the devices are cycled in sequence on the Vera desktop.  Polling is still required for some things but these changes are not the current status of the equipment.  HTTP GET and POST can take up to 4 seconds just to get a response.  So polling less than every 30 seconds or so is probably not the best.

You can see a bit about what I am talking about by reading the pdf docs here in the 2 posts.  I am about to release v1.0 which fixes minor issues related to the most recent FW and cleans up some of the chlorinator communication.
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,30275.msg216837.html#msg216837

This is for the Pentair gear but there are more similarities here than differences.  Pentair uses Circuits and Features whereas iAuqualink appears to use only circuits and calls out specific "Features" like heaters, pumps, and chemistry. 

What equipment do each of you have installed on your pool?
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 08, 2015, 04:22:33 pm
I only have a 2 speed pool pump, single stage spa pump, air pump, 2 electric valves and lights.

IAqualink already has grouping or scenes in it. So I can make a "Party" button and when pressed it switches valves with delays, starts pump and low speed then ramps up, switches lights on and such.

Really what i want is to be able to tie in some of my home away and scenes to the pool. Run a scene on vera which will turn on patio lights and turn on "Party" in the pool contoller. Same goes for night. When my vera runs "sleep" or maybe "away" scenes make sure to switch off pool heaters and lights and such.

I could probley do everything i need with a few working http commands. But im not smart enought to know how to create the http command to activate the scenes or devices in iaqualink.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: rstrouse on February 08, 2015, 05:09:33 pm
I only have a 2 speed pool pump, single stage spa pump, air pump, 2 electric valves and lights.
I have been looking for someone with other than Variable Speed or Variable Flow pumps.  Although they are similar in control the feedback is completely different.  I assume by air pump you are referring to a spa blower?  Valve control should be automatic in that I assume you are controlling spa/pool body with one of the valves and the other is for solar... maybe water feature diversion.  For lights are you running ColorLogic?

IAqualink already has grouping or scenes in it. So I can make a "Party" button and when pressed it switches valves with delays, starts pump and low speed then ramps up, switches lights on and such.
Yes the Intellitouch has this capability as well.  These are called "Feature Macros".  I have a party scene that turns on the fire, shoots laminar water jets into the pool and cycles the pool and spa colors across the pool (ColorSwim).  All this shows up in my Vera with a single button device.  What's neat is that since it is not the season I simply uncheck a box in the plugin and it disappears until I need it next season.

Really what i want is to be able to tie in some of my home away and scenes to the pool. Run a scene on vera which will turn on patio lights and turn on "Party" in the pool contoller. Same goes for night. When my vera runs "sleep" or maybe "away" scenes make sure to switch off pool heaters and lights and such.

I could probley do everything i need with a few working http commands. But im not smart enought to know how to create the http command to activate the scenes or devices in iaqualink.

Any ideas?
This is precisely why I wanted to control my pool with Vera.  The way the plugin is architected is it ties in directly with the Scene editor and allows me to perform all scenes and triggers on all equipment in the pool.  Since these are simply devices to Vera, they are integrated with all other devices that I have in my HA.  If there is some piece of equipment that I don't want to control I simply don't include it.  For instance, I have created a scene for when we are out at dinner with friends.  I called it Spa Time.  It turns on the spa, and sets the heater.  If I wanted to get fancy, I suppose I could have it choose a good temperature based upon the air temperature which is also exposed by the plugin.

Just for shucks I also tied in the Intellichlor so it can notify me if the Salt level drops below 2800 and the water temperature is > 62 degrees.  That way I know it's time to get a couple of bags of salt from the pool store.


Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 08, 2015, 06:26:53 pm
This is precisely why I wanted to control my pool with Vera.  The way the plugin is architected is it ties in directly with the Scene editor and allows me to perform all scenes and triggers on all equipment in the pool.  Since these are simply devices to Vera, they are integrated with all other devices that I have in my HA.  If there is some piece of equipment that I don't want to control I simply don't include it.  For instance, I have created a scene for when we are out at dinner with friends.  I called it Spa Time.  It turns on the spa, and sets the heater.  If I wanted to get fancy, I suppose I could have it choose a good temperature based upon the air temperature which is also exposed by the plugin.

Just for shucks I also tied in the Intellichlor so it can notify me if the Salt level drops below 2800 and the water temperature is > 62 degrees.  That way I know it's time to get a couple of bags of salt from the pool store.

Since you know the behind the scenes of how these devices work is there a way to use http commands to run deivces on Iaqualink or is their a much more complex communication going on.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: rstrouse on February 08, 2015, 07:41:28 pm
As far as I can tell iAqualink does not have an API but the underlying ioBridge does.  I couldn't find anything on a command for instance to start a pump.  Theoretically, since it uses HTTP through it's cloud you should be able to send it an HTTP command either with REST or SOAP.  Control 4 has a driver for it using the iAqualink but people on their forums seem to think it sucks.  Not because it doesn't work but it is apparently very limited in what it can do.

The Homeseer folks seem to have gone the Autelis route and I can recommend this.  If you already have the iAqualink it will coexist with the Autelis.

You can very easily send an HTTP GET directly from lua to set a device on or off.
http://www.autelis.com/wiki/index.php?title=Pool_Control_HTTP_Command_Reference

In fact a command to turn on your pump to high speed is.
luup.inet.wget("http://<autelis_ip_address>/get.cgi?name=pump&value=1", 5, "<autelis_username>", "<autelis_password>")

to turn it on to low speed is.
luup.inet.wget("http://<autelis_ip_address>/get.cgi?name=pumplo&value=1", 5, "<autelis_username>", "<autelis_password>")

Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 08, 2015, 08:51:38 pm
As far as I can tell iAqualink does not have an API but the underlying ioBridge does.  I couldn't find anything on a command for instance to start a pump.  Theoretically, since it uses HTTP through it's cloud you should be able to send it an HTTP command either with REST or SOAP.  Control 4 has a driver for it using the iAqualink but people on their forums seem to think it sucks.  Not because it doesn't work but it is apparently very limited in what it can do.

The Homeseer folks seem to have gone the Autelis route and I can recommend this.  If you already have the iAqualink it will coexist with the Autelis.

You can very easily send an HTTP GET directly from lua to set a device on or off.
http://www.autelis.com/wiki/index.php?title=Pool_Control_HTTP_Command_Reference

In fact a command to turn on your pump to high speed is.
luup.inet.wget("http://<autelis_ip_address>/get.cgi?name=pump&value=1", 5, "<autelis_username>", "<autelis_password>")

to turn it on to low speed is.
luup.inet.wget("http://<autelis_ip_address>/get.cgi?name=pumplo&value=1", 5, "<autelis_username>", "<autelis_password>")

Problem is with autelis is that I need another 275.00 controller to go alone with the iAqualink. Also I'm asumming with wont run the scenes in iAqualink only the devices.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: rstrouse on February 08, 2015, 09:13:06 pm
Yes scenes in Aqualink appear to be exposed as AUXB circuits just like "Feature Circuits" in the Intellitouch.  If you have schedules then these are also exposed.  I just didn't find a reason to put them into the plugin for Intellitouch. 

If you think about it, the Autelis device is the same as connecting a control panel.  This control panel has no buttons or display but it is connected to your network so you can send it HTTP or TCPSerial commands in lieu of pressing a button.  It responds through HTTP calls back to Vera to update the status of your devices just like it would to light up a button on the control panel.

If you look at the docs for the Autelis/Pentair plugin it will give you an idea of the type of control you have.  If you download the plugin files and install them,  you can run it in Simulation mode where it will give you a simulated pool setup.  I built the plugin before having an Autelis device and have not tried it on UI5 since all I have is UI7.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: integlikewhoa on February 08, 2015, 09:55:27 pm
Yes scenes in Aqualink appear to be exposed as AUXB circuits just like "Feature Circuits" in the Intellitouch.  If you have schedules then these are also exposed.  I just didn't find a reason to put them into the plugin for Intellitouch. 

If you think about it, the Autelis device is the same as connecting a control panel.  This control panel has no buttons or display but it is connected to your network so you can send it HTTP or TCPSerial commands in lieu of pressing a button.  It responds through HTTP calls back to Vera to update the status of your devices just like it would to light up a button on the control panel.

If you look at the docs for the Autelis/Pentair plugin it will give you an idea of the type of control you have.  If you download the plugin files and install them,  you can run it in Simulation mode where it will give you a simulated pool setup.  I built the plugin before having an Autelis device and have not tried it on UI5 since all I have is UI7.

I'm using the EDGE and UI7 as of this weekend due to recent update now fixing enough to make the change. I still own a lite running ui5.

Problem I have is I'm not to the point of spending 275.00 plus tax and shipping just to add the pool to z-wave.

I'm much more hoping for a http command to use the current servers and smart controller I already have rather then adding another controller. Had I known about this before purchasing the 500 iAqualink upgrade I might have done it.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: rstrouse on February 08, 2015, 10:25:13 pm
Problem I have is I'm not to the point of spending 275.00 plus tax and shipping just to add the pool to z-wave.

I'm much more hoping for a http command to use the current servers and smart controller I already have rather then adding another controller. Had I known about this before purchasing the 500 iAqualink upgrade I might have done it.

I hear ya.  I was just about to get the ScreenLogic TC15 interface.  All in about $1,200 then one of my laminar jets died and there was another $600 so I went looking for an alternative.  Really glad I did since I am going to use Vera/Autelis to adjust the power output of my Intellichlor based on the time of year/water temp.  I had been running it @85% all winter without realizing it, rumor is over 50% for a month and it will degrade the cell.  Normally I don't run it that high but some time around July 4th I cranked it up and left it without realizing it.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: mike0224 on March 07, 2015, 09:24:40 am
Sure am, if someone want's a beta tester for IAqualink I am game.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: Kmitchel on April 08, 2015, 05:09:32 pm
I just got my AquaLink 2.0.  I'd like Vera integration for the same reasons, if I'm away, I don't need the pool lights going on at night.  I'm happy to beta test as well!
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: integlikewhoa on April 08, 2015, 05:20:25 pm
Just talked to Zodiac again and they confirmed that only 3 players currently have API access which is URC, Crestron and Control4.

They said they have attempted to contact others (vera was unknown to them). They are unwilling for security reasons to release a public API to anyone other then large manufactures of automation equipment and that can prove such. They then said to have someone from VERA call them and that was the end.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: niharmehta on April 14, 2015, 02:16:56 am
If they are worried about the integrity of their API and the plan to is to maintain security by obscurity, then it is extremely worrisome. 
 I hope it is nothing more than them just attempting to control their costs by limiting the number of requests to the IOBridge platform which powers the iAqualink service.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: zaphodb on May 25, 2015, 04:43:00 pm
Hi folks - I am interested in automating my pool setup.  My pool has a Jandy Lite2 heater (which acts as a timer and controls the pump) and a Jandy Aquapure 1400 SWCG (everybody probably knows this already but Jandy was bought by Zodiac a few years ago).  I don't have an iAqualink or any other Aqualink controllers.  I do have a Control4 system but I don't really care about integrating the pool  into the C4 system - I just want to control my pool remotely via iOS or a web UI.  My equipment is all about 8 years old.
 
What I am interested in doing is to be able to remotely control the pump and the heater.  It would also be nice to be able to control the SWCG but that is a lower priority.

What do I need to do this?  An Aqualink Z4-4PI?

Why does this pool automation cost so much?  It seems to me that the functionality offered is pretty basic but you end up paying more than $1000 to get automation and more to integrate it into something like Crestron or Control4.  That seems pretty basic for a temperature sensor and a few relays and comparing it to stuff like smart irrigation controllers.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: rstrouse on May 25, 2015, 07:27:10 pm
Have any of you reached out to Autelis to see if their unit will control your iAqualink or Jandy gear?  If their unit does, then all this BS with Creston, C4, and URC goes away.  Frankly, I think Jandy et. al. sold their soul thinking they could rope in some of the high end systems by striking deals with the aforementioned for exclusivity.

There are a few things that I thank my lucky stars for.  One of which is that I went with Pentair rather than Jandy.  Sure you spend nearly double up front, but when I hit the button on my remote, it responds almost immediately.  Neighbor is always hitting his buttons more than once getting into the perpetual on/off cycle as the equipment delay is prolific.  I don't know if this is just his model or not but yikes.  This could also be the contractor he hired since it didn't go well and he was just waaay too nice about it.  He was told that this is normal.

Now if the Autelis does control the iAqualink or talks to the equipment directly, I am willing to help you guys through getting it all working like it does with the Pentair gear.  It will require a few victims with the equipment but, Autelis normalizes the interface to make all this a little less painful.  Every bit of my pool is controlled through Vera.  Working with one of the users, we even managed to get the IntelliChem working as well.

Pentair Pool Control Plugin (http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,30275.0.html)
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: integlikewhoa on May 25, 2015, 07:49:58 pm
Have any of you reached out to Autelis to see if their unit will control your iAqualink or Jandy gear?  If their unit does, then all this BS with Creston, C4, and URC goes away.  Frankly, I think Jandy et. al. sold their soul thinking they could rope in some of the high end systems by striking deals with the aforementioned for exclusivity.

There are a few things that I thank my lucky stars for.  One of which is that I went with Pentair rather than Jandy.  Sure you spend nearly double up front, but when I hit the button on my remote, it responds almost immediately.  Neighbor is always hitting his buttons more than once getting into the perpetual on/off cycle as the equipment delay is prolific.  I don't know if this is just his model or not but yikes.  This could also be the contractor he hired since it didn't go well and he was just waaay too nice about it.  He was told that this is normal.

Now if the Autelis does control the iAqualink or talks to the equipment directly, I am willing to help you guys through getting it all working like it does with the Pentair gear.  It will require a few victims with the equipment but, Autelis normalizes the interface to make all this a little less painful.  Every bit of my pool is controlled through Vera.  Working with one of the users, we even managed to get the IntelliChem working as well.

Pentair Pool Control Plugin (http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,30275.0.html)

It's already known the Autelis works. Problem for me atleast is the iAqualink is the main controller and is needed for my pool. The Autelis is an add on modual/remote for the existing iAqualink control board that is already controllable from anywhere via my mobile device or webpage. I personally don't want to spend another 270.00 or more just to add it to VERA. There is a few things to gain by adding it to vera, but there is not enough for me to justify the 270.00 (my personal experience only).  So I'm just in a holding pattern hoping for a cheaper way to make the connection.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: rstrouse on May 25, 2015, 08:17:29 pm
It's already known the Autelis works. Problem for me atleast is the iAqualink is the main controller and is needed for my pool. The Autelis is an add on modual/remote for the existing iAqualink control board that is already controllable from anywhere via my mobile device or webpage. I personally don't want to spend another 270.00 or more just to add it to VERA. There is a few things to gain by adding it to vera, but there is not enough for me to justify the 270.00 (my personal experience only).  So I'm just in a holding pattern hoping for a cheaper way to make the connection.

Yeah, I guess I'm a bit numb to the pool automation cost at this point.  But I'm looking to do whole home HDBaseT right now and longing for the pool automation cost.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: nomar383 on May 27, 2015, 06:07:37 am
Have any of you reached out to Autelis to see if their unit will control your iAqualink or Jandy gear?  If their unit does, then all this BS with Creston, C4, and URC goes away.  Frankly, I think Jandy et. al. sold their soul thinking they could rope in some of the high end systems by striking deals with the aforementioned for exclusivity.

There are a few things that I thank my lucky stars for.  One of which is that I went with Pentair rather than Jandy.  Sure you spend nearly double up front, but when I hit the button on my remote, it responds almost immediately.  Neighbor is always hitting his buttons more than once getting into the perpetual on/off cycle as the equipment delay is prolific.  I don't know if this is just his model or not but yikes.  This could also be the contractor he hired since it didn't go well and he was just waaay too nice about it.  He was told that this is normal.

Now if the Autelis does control the iAqualink or talks to the equipment directly, I am willing to help you guys through getting it all working like it does with the Pentair gear.  It will require a few victims with the equipment but, Autelis normalizes the interface to make all this a little less painful.  Every bit of my pool is controlled through Vera.  Working with one of the users, we even managed to get the IntelliChem working as well.

Pentair Pool Control Plugin (http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,30275.0.html)

It's already known the Autelis works. Problem for me atleast is the iAqualink is the main controller and is needed for my pool. The Autelis is an add on modual/remote for the existing iAqualink control board that is already controllable from anywhere via my mobile device or webpage. I personally don't want to spend another 270.00 or more just to add it to VERA. There is a few things to gain by adding it to vera, but there is not enough for me to justify the 270.00 (my personal experience only).  So I'm just in a holding pattern hoping for a cheaper way to make the connection.

I am having this same debate now. Just got a pool put in with iaqualink. Turns out I still have to go to the equipment pad to set schedules for everything. IaqualInk is actually pretty limited on its own.

Most of the automation costs were in the Z4 panel and the automatic valves.

The autelis actually can emulate a control pad so you can do everything you can do on the actual panel itself, or you could have the vera handle the logic (don't trust the vera for this personally).
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: niharmehta on June 07, 2015, 12:37:02 am
I use an iAqualink without a pad at all. Programming can be done on the web interface vs. the app interface. Works fine .
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: integlikewhoa on June 07, 2015, 02:13:10 am
I use an iAqualink without a pad at all. Programming can be done on the web interface vs. the app interface. Works fine .

What is this supposed to mean? How does this let vera control or integrate it with VERA? Most of us probley don't have a "PAD"
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: niharmehta on June 07, 2015, 01:57:33 pm
 To clarify when I meant Pad, I assumed it was a standalone Aqualink RS / OneTouch  inside or outside your home.  I guess it could also mean the area where the iQ900 control box and pumps .

I was responding to @nomar383 comment that all programming needs to be done at the control box (or Aqualink RS, or Autelis) . iAqualink also provides a browser interface both control and programming .  Unfortunately, still no native integration with Vera. Not sure if its possible (or worth it) to write a plugin that somehow uses the web interface.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: nomar383 on June 07, 2015, 01:59:21 pm
To clarify when I meant Pad, I assumed it was a standalone Aqualink RS / OneTouch  inside or outside your home.  I guess it could also mean the area where the iQ900 control box and pumps .

I was responding to @nomar383 comment that all programming needs to be done at the control box (or Aqualink RS, or Autelis) . iAqualink also provides a browser interface both control and programming .  Unfortunately, still no native integration with Vera. Not sure if its possible (or worth it) to write a plugin that somehow uses the web interface.

Can you post a screenshot of the programming from the computer? All I can see is turning pumps on or off and setting the temp for the pool/spa. Can you set schedules on the computer with iAqualink?
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: niharmehta on June 07, 2015, 02:11:51 pm
Go to :
https://www.iaqualink.com/en/#/manage-pool  and log in using your username and password.

You can also access the Web UI using the Web tab on the mobile App.  It will launch your browser for you. 
Selecting the menu button, you will take you to the menu where all the programming can be done.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: nomar383 on June 07, 2015, 02:20:50 pm
Go to :
https://www.iaqualink.com/en/#/manage-pool  and log in using your username and password.

You can also access the Web UI using the Web tab on the mobile App.  It will launch your browser for you. 
Selecting the menu button, you will take you to the menu where all the programming can be done.

What panel do you have? I only have the Z4, so maybe the higher end panel have more options. Mine looks nothing like that, it's basically a mobile webpage that mimics the android app.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: niharmehta on June 07, 2015, 02:29:21 pm
My control board is the iQ900 and the iAqualink 2.0 module (the hockey puck)  connecting to the bus.  What does it look like once you log in to the browser interface from your computer using the link I shared ?
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: nomar383 on June 07, 2015, 02:32:05 pm
My control board is the iQ900 and the iAqualink 2.0 module (the hockey puck)  connecting to the bus.  What does it look like once you log in to the browser interface from your computer using the link I shared ?

This is what it looks like for me:
http://imgur.com/Fz2DLql,GLAXFtW#0

I also have the 2.0 hockey puck connected to the bus, then to my LAN over wifi.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: niharmehta on June 07, 2015, 02:35:27 pm
Click on your " Home Pool "
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: nomar383 on June 07, 2015, 02:36:35 pm
Click on your " Home Pool "

Look at the second picture in the imgur link, that's what I see when I click on Home Pool
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: niharmehta on June 07, 2015, 02:50:13 pm
That is strange. My system emulates a OneTouch panel. Yours is jumping to the web UI that I also can log in to by changing the URL.

After logging in,  try : https://iaqualink.zodiacpoolsystems.com/start/touch/?actionID=AazkrG16UCFb1   which is basically replacing the "/start/mobile/?StartID=" with "/start/touch/?actionID=" in your URL.

If that does not work I would open up a ticket with Jandy. 
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: nomar383 on June 07, 2015, 02:56:19 pm
That is strange. My system emulates a OneTouch panel. Yours is jumping to the web UI that I also can log in to by changing the URL.

After logging in,  try : https://iaqualink.zodiacpoolsystems.com/start/touch/?actionID=AazkrG16UCFb1   which is basically replacing the "/start/mobile/?StartID=" with "/start/touch/?actionID=" in your URL.

If that does not work I would open up a ticket with Jandy.

I will have to open a ticket I suppose. I tried as you suggested and it redirected me to the mobile link still. It would be awesome if I could get the level of control that was in your screenshot, hopefully it's just a bug somewhere!

I'm looking at designing a python module to grab the data from the website so it can be useful elsewhere (kind of like a sudo-api). If I can get access to the scheduling and stuff, then maybe a Vera plugin would be possible/worthwhile.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: niharmehta on June 07, 2015, 03:04:30 pm
Oh well. It was worth a shot. Must be bigger differences with the Z4 vs. RS based systems.  A sudo-api would be useful as long as they do not keep changing things.  Seeing how often they update their app, I doubt they ever have.   

I would just be nice to be able to turn a few things on and off and trigger some OneTouch commands. I rarely change the schedule now other than Summer / Winter times . I would use an Autelis, however it is hard to justify the cost vs. just walking outside and using the tablet I mounted in an Orbit box on the wall.


Good luck and let us know what Jandy says.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: nomar383 on June 07, 2015, 03:31:38 pm
Oh well. It was worth a shot. Must be bigger differences with the Z4 vs. RS based systems.  A sudo-api would be useful as long as they do not keep changing things.  Seeing how often they update their app, I doubt they ever have.   

I would just be nice to be able to turn a few things on and off and trigger some OneTouch commands. I rarely change the schedule now other than Summer / Winter times . I would use an Autelis, however it is hard to justify the cost vs. just walking outside and using the tablet I mounted in an Orbit box on the wall.


Good luck and let us know what Jandy says.

I just went through the manual and it says the web interface isn't available for Z4 devices. Additionally Autelis doesnt support Z4 either, so I guess the latest and greatest is not a great idea haha. Maybe I can downgrade the panel to an older one from eBay...
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: integlikewhoa on June 07, 2015, 10:04:09 pm
Oh well. It was worth a shot. Must be bigger differences with the Z4 vs. RS based systems.  A sudo-api would be useful as long as they do not keep changing things.  Seeing how often they update their app, I doubt they ever have.   

I would just be nice to be able to turn a few things on and off and trigger some OneTouch commands. I rarely change the schedule now other than Summer / Winter times . I would use an Autelis, however it is hard to justify the cost vs. just walking outside and using the tablet I mounted in an Orbit box on the wall.


Good luck and let us know what Jandy says.

Never seen that before. I have an RS also. I think the Z4 is cheaper.

I just went through the manual and it says the web interface isn't available for Z4 devices. Additionally Autelis doesnt support Z4 either, so I guess the latest and greatest is not a great idea haha. Maybe I can downgrade the panel to an older one from eBay...
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: Th33nforcer on November 11, 2015, 08:17:19 pm
So I've had the iAqualink 2.0 (RS-8 board) for almost a year now. I don't get why you would want it integrated with the Vera (which I've had for five years or so). I feel the app is pretty solid and for me, pool automation is meant for "set it and forget it". Before I got the pool, I thought it would be cool...but after owning it for a year, I just don't see the need other than for a novelty. Can you guys tell me what you are trying to do?
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: integlikewhoa on November 11, 2015, 08:34:41 pm
So I've had the iAqualink 2.0 (RS-8 board) for almost a year now. I don't get why you would want it integrated with the Vera (which I've had for five years or so). I feel the app is pretty solid and for me, pool automation is meant for "set it and forget it". Before I got the pool, I thought it would be cool...but after owning it for a year, I just don't see the need other than for a novelty. Can you guys tell me what you are trying to do?

Create a scene that turns on sonos, patio lights, spa lights, heater ect.

Also add the pool to my sleep scene that if they don't turn off the lights heater or such after we go to bed it will all auto shut off along with the other lights and locking he doors around the house. 

EDIT:

it also cuts down on the apps I have to use. I have blueiris cameras, sonos, pool, opensprinkler and several others. All have their own apps, but it's nice when the wife doesn't have to open 10 different apps and can open only ImperiHome which has everything in it.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: rstrouse on November 11, 2015, 09:44:13 pm
Out for dinner with friends...  Fire up the spa so it is ready when you get home is just one example.  I also have my chlorinator take the water temperature into account and shut down the cell if it is too cold to produce chlorine.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: integlikewhoa on November 11, 2015, 11:37:21 pm
Out for dinner with friends...  Fire up the spa so it is ready when you get home is just one example.  I also have my chlorinator take the water temperature into account and shut down the cell if it is too cold to produce chlorine.

But these things can be done in the iAqualink app and doesn't need to be tied into vera. His question was more specifically why do we want to have it tied to vera or use a vera app vs. just opening the iAqualink app and doing it from there. 
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: Kmitchel on November 12, 2015, 08:07:39 am
You want it tied to Vera because I have Echo integration.  It would be great if I can just say "turn on my spa" and Vera would turn the spa on, determine if it is day or night so it could turn on the lights, set the temperature based on the time of year and then turn on the speakers outside and dim the lights.

Without vera integration, the person who wants to enjoy the spa has to either have an app installed on their phone or come find me.  It is really annoying when guests are staying at my home and they have to go though me to turn the pool on/off.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: Sammy2 on May 16, 2016, 08:03:43 pm
I know this is an old thread but I am interested in doing this to my 2002 Jandy equipment. I'm wondering if the iAqualink is all I need to connect to get it connected to my Galaxy phone / Tab and my wifes iPhone and iPad via an app and my home WiFi? Also, if the Autelus module is required of if any generic RS485 interface will do the trick?

Has anyone tried this?
Is this project dead?
I'm no coder but understand computers since DOS days and am willing to do some testing on it.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: integlikewhoa on May 16, 2016, 08:16:06 pm
I know this is an old thread but I am interested in doing this to my 2002 Jandy equipment. I'm wondering if the iAqualink is all I need to connect to get it connected to my Galaxy phone / Tab and my wifes iPhone and iPad via an app and my home WiFi? Also, if the Autelus module is required of if any generic RS485 interface will do the trick?

Has anyone tried this?
Is this project dead?
I'm no coder but understand computers since DOS days and am willing to do some testing on it.

Well iaqualink to vera I would say is dead. iaqualink is not playing nice with anyone with their closed API.

So if you want control with VERA you only need the Autelus and the plugin. I bought the iAqualink and I can use my phone app or web browser to control it anywhere but not with vera. If you want both then you need both the iaqualink kit and the Autelus modual. If you want only phone control with VERA I would skip the iaqualink product. Altho I think looks and function will probley be better experience with more options threw the offical app.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: Sammy2 on May 16, 2016, 09:04:54 pm
I know this is an old thread but I am interested in doing this to my 2002 Jandy equipment. I'm wondering if the iAqualink is all I need to connect to get it connected to my Galaxy phone / Tab and my wifes iPhone and iPad via an app and my home WiFi? Also, if the Autelus module is required of if any generic RS485 interface will do the trick?

Has anyone tried this?
Is this project dead?
I'm no coder but understand computers since DOS days and am willing to do some testing on it.

Well iaqualink to vera I would say is dead. iaqualink is not playing nice with anyone with their closed API.

So if you want control with VERA you only need the Autelus and the plugin. I bought the iAqualink and I can use my phone app or web browser to control it anywhere but not with vera. If you want both then you need both the iaqualink kit and the Autelus modual. If you want only phone control with VERA I would skip the iaqualink product. Altho I think looks and function will probley be better experience with more options threw the offical app.

I looked in app store for the plug in but did not see it. I even searched for "iAqualink", "Aqua", "link" and simply "i" with no luck so I didn't find the plug in.

Where do I get the autelus device? I only have seen the iAqualink and iAqualink2 devices.. My board is old and I need to look at the model number to see what it is that I need to get. Although it would be nice to have the pool, spa and associated pool lighting controlled in one app via the Vera it isn't a necessity with the exception of being able to schedule Scenes to do other neat coordinated things in the yard and in the pool simultaneously. This is what a "Smart Home" is all about.

All that said, I think I"ll start with the native app and iAqualink if my board is compatible. It uses the RS one touch controller (http://www.sunplay.com/jandy-aqualink-rs-one-touch-7953?gclid=Cj0KEQjw3-W5BRCymr_7r7SFt8cBEiQAsLtM8mcVnWPkTH9IhBtHUp7eBFNVva6KTD-y15n3yI4io1waApdV8P8HAQ) already right now so I think it is a matter of connecting the iAqualink where that is connected already.

Funny thing, my pool guy said this would cost me $2,000 in parts alone but I don't think that is the case, especially if my existing board is compatible.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: niharmehta on May 17, 2016, 12:05:49 am
I was in your position.

Its likely your 2002 Jandy RS board is NOT compatible with iAquaLink. It requires a specific version or later.  My 2001/2002 board was not upgradeable to having the iAqualink module attached nor was my RS8 panel.

Replacing the PCB board and adding the iAqualink2 module will be approx $600 + Labor (Pool Supply World) . Yes its an absolute ripoff for the level of technology in these systems.
Instead of getting a new OneTouch , I wall mounted a spare Android tablet with the Aqualink app.    Its been working fine over almost 2 years now and I have full programming capability.

You have a couple of options:
1) Pay to move to the latest version.
2) See if the Autelis is compatible with your control board version and use it as your new automation target and install is on the RS485 bus.
3) Replace Jandy with another brand that is more friendly to automation.

 

Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: integlikewhoa on May 17, 2016, 01:40:34 am
I was in your position.

Its likely your 2002 Jandy RS board is NOT compatible with iAquaLink. It requires a specific version or later.  My 2001/2002 board was not upgradeable to having the iAqualink module attached nor was my RS8 panel.

Replacing the PCB board and adding the iAqualink2 module will be approx $600 + Labor (Pool Supply World) . Yes its an absolute ripoff for the level of technology in these systems.
Instead of getting a new OneTouch , I wall mounted a spare Android tablet with the Aqualink app.    Its been working fine over almost 2 years now and I have full programming capability.

You have a couple of options:
1) Pay to move to the latest version.
2) See if the Autelis is compatible with your control board version and use it as your new automation target and install is on the RS485 bus.
3) Replace Jandy with another brand that is more friendly to automation.

My one touch was broken when I bought the house. So I bought the 1.0 version at the time.

What you said is correct but around 525.00 is a good price to pay for the complete kit and installation is plug n play so around 10 min and a few connectors and your ready to go. Do not pay 200.00 to have it installed. I think there was 2-4 Philips screws and around 6 connectors.

This will most likley be needed since you main board is probley to old. Earlier then Revision "R"
http://www.poolcleaningparts.com/jandy-iaqualink-iq20-rs-network-interface-module.html

If your board is not very old. (revision "R" or newer) Then all you need is just the iaqualink 2.0 alone.
http://www.poolcleaningparts.com/jandy-iaqualink-iq20-a-network-interface-module.html

Revsion "R" came out in 2011. Revision number can be found on a stick on the back side of the main panel. It needs to be somewhat pulled out or removed from the metal box to see the back side. On the main black chip on the backside of the board you will see a white sticker with the revision number on it. Like the link below

http://d2vv81yn11nqlu.cloudfront.net/catalog/product/cache/2/image/300x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/7/2/726224-1.jpg

The new board adds some features that you may or may not use. (Smart JVA, Variable speed pumps and controls that probley your 2002 unit doesn't have) But if you only changing the board I'm sure you don't have any new items that will require the new board. The App is nice to have and use but is it worth 525? That maybe questionable depending on your requirements. Here is the chnage log of what was added on the different revisions and when they were released. This stops at 2011 and I'm nto sure what has been added after if anything.

https://www.poolsupplyunlimited.com/Products/Manuals/Sub53_2012329101223.pdf
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: Sammy2 on May 17, 2016, 01:51:54 pm
I was in your position.

Its likely your 2002 Jandy RS board is NOT compatible with iAquaLink. It requires a specific version or later.  My 2001/2002 board was not upgradeable to having the iAqualink module attached nor was my RS8 panel.

Replacing the PCB board and adding the iAqualink2 module will be approx $600 + Labor (Pool Supply World) . Yes its an absolute ripoff for the level of technology in these systems.
Instead of getting a new OneTouch , I wall mounted a spare Android tablet with the Aqualink app.    Its been working fine over almost 2 years now and I have full programming capability.

You have a couple of options:
1) Pay to move to the latest version.
2) See if the Autelis is compatible with your control board version and use it as your new automation target and install is on the RS485 bus.
3) Replace Jandy with another brand that is more friendly to automation.

My one touch was broken when I bought the house. So I bought the 1.0 version at the time.

What you said is correct but around 525.00 is a good price to pay for the complete kit and installation is plug n play so around 10 min and a few connectors and your ready to go. Do not pay 200.00 to have it installed. I think there was 2-4 Philips screws and around 6 connectors.

This will most likley be needed since you main board is probley to old. Earlier then Revision "R"
http://www.poolcleaningparts.com/jandy-iaqualink-iq20-rs-network-interface-module.html

If your board is not very old. (revision "R" or newer) Then all you need is just the iaqualink 2.0 alone.
http://www.poolcleaningparts.com/jandy-iaqualink-iq20-a-network-interface-module.html

Revsion "R" came out in 2011. Revision number can be found on a stick on the back side of the main panel. It needs to be somewhat pulled out or removed from the metal box to see the back side. On the main black chip on the backside of the board you will see a white sticker with the revision number on it. Like the link below

http://d2vv81yn11nqlu.cloudfront.net/catalog/product/cache/2/image/300x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/7/2/726224-1.jpg

The new board adds some features that you may or may not use. (Smart JVA, Variable speed pumps and controls that probley your 2002 unit doesn't have) But if you only changing the board I'm sure you don't have any new items that will require the new board. The App is nice to have and use but is it worth 525? That maybe questionable depending on your requirements. Here is the chnage log of what was added on the different revisions and when they were released. This stops at 2011 and I'm nto sure what has been added after if anything.

https://www.poolsupplyunlimited.com/Products/Manuals/Sub53_2012329101223.pdf

This is fantastic information! Thank you!!

I will look into which board I have, maybe tonight, so I can determine which way to go with this. The pool was in when we bought the house in 2014 but we are remodeling the back yard now and would like to have it controlled with the Vera Plus and include the pool in that control..
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: integlikewhoa on May 17, 2016, 02:42:57 pm
This is fantastic information! Thank you!!

I will look into which board I have, maybe tonight, so I can determine which way to go with this. The pool was in when we bought the house in 2014 but we are remodeling the back yard now and would like to have it controlled with the Vera Plus and include the pool in that control..

Remember iAqualink will not give you control via VERA. So that is a different path as of now and the last few years. Autelis is what is needed to make the vera connection and that system has two different setups depending on if you have a PDA now or not.
http://www.autelis.com/pool-control-for-jandy-zodiac-pda.html

If your running anything other then a PDA (one touch or aqualink) then you'll need this one.
http://www.autelis.com/pool-control-for-jandy-zodiac.html

If you want the iAqualink Web UI control and setup and phone or tablet apps, plus you want vera control then you currently would need to buy both systems which would total around 795.00 ish combined.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: Sammy2 on May 17, 2016, 03:37:30 pm
This is fantastic information! Thank you!!

I will look into which board I have, maybe tonight, so I can determine which way to go with this. The pool was in when we bought the house in 2014 but we are remodeling the back yard now and would like to have it controlled with the Vera Plus and include the pool in that control..

Remember iAqualink will not give you control via VERA. So that is a different path as of now and the last few years. Autelis is what is needed to make the vera connection and that system has two different setups depending on if you have a PDA now or not.
http://www.autelis.com/pool-control-for-jandy-zodiac-pda.html

If your running anything other then a PDA (one touch or aqualink) then you'll need this one.
http://www.autelis.com/pool-control-for-jandy-zodiac.html

If you want the iAqualink Web UI control and setup and phone or tablet apps, plus you want vera control then you currently would need to buy both systems which would total around 795.00 ish combined.

PDA as in Personal Data Assistant?

Nope, never had one of those. I jumped right to smart phone with the original G1 Google phone came out, and even Helio before that..

I have a wall mounted RS controller so I guess I need the basic one.

Can Vera Plus control the autelis via WiFi, Bluetooth or Z-Wave?? Not sure why I need the iAqualink if that is the case.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: integlikewhoa on May 17, 2016, 05:25:01 pm
This is fantastic information! Thank you!!

I will look into which board I have, maybe tonight, so I can determine which way to go with this. The pool was in when we bought the house in 2014 but we are remodeling the back yard now and would like to have it controlled with the Vera Plus and include the pool in that control..

Remember iAqualink will not give you control via VERA. So that is a different path as of now and the last few years. Autelis is what is needed to make the vera connection and that system has two different setups depending on if you have a PDA now or not.
http://www.autelis.com/pool-control-for-jandy-zodiac-pda.html

If your running anything other then a PDA (one touch or aqualink) then you'll need this one.
http://www.autelis.com/pool-control-for-jandy-zodiac.html

If you want the iAqualink Web UI control and setup and phone or tablet apps, plus you want vera control then you currently would need to buy both systems which would total around 795.00 ish combined.

PDA as in Personal Data Assistant?

Nope, never had one of those. I jumped right to smart phone with the original G1 Google phone came out, and even Helio before that..

I have a wall mounted RS controller so I guess I need the basic one.

Can Vera Plus control the autelis via WiFi, Bluetooth or Z-Wave?? Not sure why I need the iAqualink if that is the case.

Vera uses connects Via plugin and IP address of the Autelis unit which has a hardwired network connection and a wire connected to your rs panel.

http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,30275.0.html

iAqualink is a the brain of the pool controller that allows setup and control via a web browser. Right now you do this via the RS controller. iAqualink adds some new features but maybe none that you will use or need. Autelis simulates a pool keypad and allows you to make changes and turn things on and off. It doesn't replace the controller (rs touch or iAqualink) but runs along side it like a generic remote. It allows web access (they don't have any app that I know of) via a web browser and allows you to turn things on off and make changes as if you were using a remote from anywhere in the world via the internet. So if you were buying iAqualink just to turn on the spa while you were gone then you can do this for around 270.00 vs. the whole iAqualink kit at 525.00. But the kit is more then just the internet part it's also the updated board.

iaqualink can connect via wired or wireless Autelis has wired only and you would need a wireless bridge to make it wireless if needed. Version 1.0 was very picky on the wifi network type and security it used to connect. I think 2.0 has gotten better, but 1.0 was "G" and not passkey with only one kind of encryption. I found the hard way after alot of internet connection problems in the beginning.

I would probley just get the Autelis and call it done until you want to upgrade a pump valves or something else that requires the new board. Even then you can choose new rev. board only or iAqualink at that time. I did end up using JVA controller to stop my motorized valves in the middle. I was unable to do this with my older revision before. I don't have a variable speed pump but figured when mine goes out that will probley be next which it can now be controlled.

Autelis will give you more bang for your buck for around 270 plus wifi adapter you can have internet control of your pool and vera control also which sounds like all you need.  Contact Autelis after you find your revision info and before you buy anything to make sure all works with what you have currently.
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: Sammy2 on May 17, 2016, 06:40:49 pm
Okay.. Thanks a lot!!

Right now, via the RS controller in the house, I have three "scenes" so to speak.

Day Party: Pool filter pumps and shear decent is all I think. There may be one other thing but I am not sure..

Night Party: Same as Day party but adds pool lights on color wheel OR any single color pre-selected. In addition to this there's Old School fiber optic lighting around the spa and the steps up to the spa.

Spa Mode: Well, it turns on the spa jets, turns off the inlet water to the spa and opens the spa return valves, effectively stopping the cascading waterfall from the spa to the pool. Spa mode can be run in conjunction with either "party" mode but it redirects the water flow and fires up the spa heater.

I'd like to duplicate this and add in yard lighting effects in the "Night Party" scene using Vera. Is this possible with the Autelis controller?
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: Sammy2 on August 05, 2016, 01:36:39 pm
Okay.. Thanks a lot!!

Right now, via the RS controller in the house, I have three "scenes" so to speak.

Day Party: Pool filter pumps and shear decent is all I think. There may be one other thing but I am not sure..

Night Party: Same as Day party but adds pool lights on color wheel OR any single color pre-selected. In addition to this there's Old School fiber optic lighting around the spa and the steps up to the spa.

Spa Mode: Well, it turns on the spa jets, turns off the inlet water to the spa and opens the spa return valves, effectively stopping the cascading waterfall from the spa to the pool. Spa mode can be run in conjunction with either "party" mode but it redirects the water flow and fires up the spa heater.

I'd like to duplicate this and add in yard lighting effects in the "Night Party" scene using Vera. Is this possible with the Autelis controller?

I'm thinking I can use an extra WiFi router I have in bridge mode to provide the necessary WiFi for my controller. The biggest problem is protecting that device from the weather.
Title: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: LindsiWains on November 13, 2016, 09:34:37 am
I just installed the Pool Control device by disconnecting my existing jandy serial controller. I am trying to get rid of all my crestron equipment, but in the meantime, can I splice the 4 wire bus and have it go to BOTH the Jandy and Autelis and maintain my home automation control as well as have all the Autelis features without harming either system?

Thanks for your response,
R
Title: Re: iAqualink Pool Control
Post by: rstrouse on November 13, 2016, 12:53:42 pm
Yes that is correct.  The Autelis is just another control panel.