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Title: Android?
Post by: 325xi on April 11, 2010, 10:20:58 pm
Any idea when Android version is coming?
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: SquareConnectMat on April 11, 2010, 11:15:44 pm
@325xi

We have a very early version in development.... The android market is interesting.... Obviously important in the long run, but a very small numbers relative to other platforms at the moment.

We are almost ready to start building the beta tester list for that platform, so if you (or any body else who reads this) is interested, please Reply to the square connect forum SQ Remote>Feature Requests> Android Beta Signup (http://www.squareconnect.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=26)

mat
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: 325xi on April 11, 2010, 11:56:25 pm
Do you evaluate overall numbers, or population that is likely to actually install and use your app?

Large part of the user base of BB and WM are corporate users, which often are not allowed to install non IT-approved apps.

Consumer WM is dying; new WM7 isn't backward compatible, so its user base can be considered next to none.

Nokia just officially shifted priority to dumbphones, which means its smartphone user base will shrink, and the new users that would be easily attracted to mios aren't likely to chose their old platform.
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: SquareConnectMat on April 12, 2010, 04:16:31 am
Absolutely size and growth..

Also, if someone pays us to port it to a platform, no matter how many users ;-).

Android and Flash are both interesting to us not just for the phones, but because of the console and TV platforms.... There will be a number of well priced Networked Digital photoframes coming that wil be flash or Android based. Perfect additional control panels IMHO.

Blackberry is a potential platform, but I am rather hoping that our Flash will work on their next gen smartphones... at the moment you really have to write 5 applications to support BB....

Title: Re: Android?
Post by: Sleeve on April 16, 2010, 07:14:58 pm
Probably one of your biggest obstacles in the Android market is going to be sticker shock if you hope to carry over your current rates.  It's also de facto that you build a free ad supported version for the Android market.

Sure, ever since the woman locked her door from her minivan five miles away from home, it's been good business for z-wave and a lot of fruit phone owners looking for the latest watering hole oneupsmanship are gulping down some SQ Connect.

However. consider the eventually more vast intersect between geek, Android, and z-wave.  While there are millions more digital fashion accessories out there, the likelihood for an Android owner to get into z-wave is generally going to be higher.  Problem is, both in numbers and in market app rates, you'll make more money on fruit.
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: stoney on May 02, 2010, 08:58:23 am
Yes, the need to keep it real and cost effective is important.

There was / is an app called Home Buddy that worked wonderfully
with Vera (for the Droid) as long as the user did not update the
GUI. It controlled and displayed events and devices and oh yes,
it was FREE.

It still works for those of us who choose not to upgrade.... :-\
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: 325xi on May 04, 2010, 09:52:26 am
Well, in my opinion the party who should be most interested in mobile support is MCV. Mobile control gives vera high "kewl" factor allowing to attract potential customers. I don't think development of mobile app for MCV should depend on whether people will pay $2 for it or not.

On the other side MCV's marketing strategy (or lack of thereof) with regard to Vera is beyond my understanding anyways - you can't see Vera anywhere: no blogs, no twitter, next to zero reviews or other mentionings in internet. Oh yes, no ads either.

First thing these days should be building mobile apps for as many platforms as possible, and working on spreading the word out!

Title: Re: Android?
Post by: JimMac on May 25, 2010, 03:35:00 pm
When we all upgrade to UI4 and loose support for UI2 and UI3 the Android market will be SOL.  I was using Home Buddy but lost remote control on both of my Nexus One's a few weeks back when I upgraded to UI3 and truly mis the service.  I would certainly try an add based app, if it was well designed and provided the necessary functionality then I would purchase an add free version.  I think most people would like to try an app out before purchasing just to make sure it works as advertised.
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: Mark H. on June 10, 2010, 11:52:56 pm
I agree.

MCV should be ALL OVER the mobile market.
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: JaseP on June 11, 2010, 11:32:40 am
Does SQ Connect support the N900 (Maemo, soon to be Meego)???
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: Jacobly on June 16, 2010, 09:55:37 am
Currently SQ Remote is only commercially available for iOS (formerly "iPhone OS") I believe they are planning on an Android version. No talks of support for Meamo or Meego that I have heard.
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: mikemsd on July 01, 2010, 04:02:33 pm
Would like to add another vote for Android. Please don't forget the #2 smartphone platform.
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: Pierre.bln on July 03, 2010, 08:27:54 am
It's always hard to admit the other side deserves some attention  ;D
I am an Mac, iPhone and iPad user and am not planning to switch to Android anytime near in the future.

However, as it was mentionned, there are two aspects that may drive attention to the developpers to Android:
1 - Obviously, the high growth of the platform, which is becoming a 1:1 competitor with iOS
2-  As it was mentioned, home automation is still attracting a large "geek" customer base. A customer base that probably is well more equipped in Android than the average population (the search for "open source", "no locked iTunes store"...)

I don't want support removed from my beloved "does little but does it well" iPhone  :P, but I would assume the potential market with Android is slightly more important than what developpers think
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: reiserx on July 03, 2010, 11:47:47 am
Android surpassed the iphone in users on May 10 only a month after sq said they had relitively small numbers.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20004585-266.html (http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20004585-266.html) I woner where they are now that the iphone 4 is out. That may have helped apple catch back up a little.
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: mario23 on July 13, 2010, 08:36:38 pm
Good find.  Now with the Iphone 4 having its own set of problems as well,  number might go down some more..who knows.
Either way, good news for Android.
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: 325xi on July 13, 2010, 08:43:33 pm
Android comes up with app generator so even 6-graders could create (as part of a beta-test) pretty cool apps.
I think the amount of apps is going to skyrocket very soon. I hooooope...
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: reiserx on August 17, 2010, 01:32:25 am
Everything I ever thought of an more I could find in the Android apps. The only thing I want in a Android phone now is UMA (Calls over Wifi). I have to keep my Blackberry for that because I have no signal at home.
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: mario23 on August 17, 2010, 09:23:01 am
can you use skype or fring for that?
I hope we start seeing some android love soon here.

The number of android phones sold in just the last couple of months have exploded.
Android just beat out iphone for phones sold now too...
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: mario23 on August 17, 2010, 11:41:18 am
"Android devices to surge past 55 million, Digitimes says"

http://www.androidcentral.com/android-devices-surge-past-55-million-worldwide

Title: Re: Android?
Post by: 325xi on August 17, 2010, 07:49:39 pm
Everything I ever thought of an more I could find in the Android apps. The only thing I want in a Android phone now is UMA (Calls over Wifi). I have to keep my Blackberry for that because I have no signal at home.
Couldn't be simpler: SipDroid sipdroid.org
works with both 3G and WiFi
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: SquareConnectMat on September 04, 2010, 03:01:22 am
We are watching.....
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: mario23 on September 04, 2010, 05:05:21 pm
LOL oh the suspense!!!
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: SquareConnectMat on September 05, 2010, 02:01:08 am
<grin>
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: mario23 on October 11, 2010, 07:09:33 pm
I was wondering how things are going now with the puck released.
Google TV is right around the corner it could be very interesting as a control platform for us.  It is after all just an Android OS.  Are you guys still interested in Android and are you considering it for Google TV as well?
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: SquareConnectMat on October 12, 2010, 02:33:45 am
I am personally very interested in Android... Especially since my AT&T service in my home has steadly got worse... even with a nano-cell installed. I've really been watching it mature.

I think TV and Tablets are both great areas for Android.

We are working away at this and I am hoping to see something soon. The biggest issue we see is the variation in platform and performance across the available devices, and I have been hoping to to see some clear market leaders in each of the form factors. For a control application, how it interacts with the network/wifi and data modem is very key - even on the iOS we end up testing on 7 different devices and OS combination's and have discovered each combination of hardware and os version has it's own wrinkles and networking behaviors. It has been commented on these forums that our app is generally very responsive in comparison, for example, to the web browser control. Part of that is our attention to how the underlying networking works. Another example would be the 'feature' Apple introduced a few revisions back of Bluetooth and Wifi interacting in a very strange way. We have got that fixed... and I can tell you several very large brands out there haven't solved that one yet.

Given our interest in controlling AV equipment, it is even more critical to getting the interaction as good as we can.. which leads to the effort of doing this on many more platforms on Android.

Our fear is if we try and support too many platforms and devices too soon, we will end up with a mediocre experience on all instead of a great experience on one.

We have had a few attempts in the last year, none were deemed good enough to even alpha.. but we are hoping the new crop of Android devices will fare much better... and we will see. John has banned me from giving out dates, on the basis that I am an eternal optimist. I am not even allowed to give a hint. But I am excited... and looking forward to a new Phone service.

Mat
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: mario23 on December 29, 2010, 04:27:32 pm
Come on baby...give me something to test  8)
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: grybrd on December 29, 2010, 09:42:49 pm
Aim for Verizon Moto Droids on Android 2.2.1 .. this is the latest release plus all Motos have the same UI.   Yes new phones with Dual Core will be coming out in the next few months on Android 2.3 but  what is coded for todays Single Core is supposed to be compatible.
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: Boyo on December 30, 2010, 12:18:45 am
Would be best to pick the top couple phones from each carrier to test on, I have sprint and the top two android phones right now seem to be the HTC Evo and Samsung Epic. Both seemed very similar to me when playing with them, but i'm sure there are differences from a programming standpoint. On verizon the Droid line is the primary androids phones. I'm not sure about the other carriers, but it would make sense to pick 1 or 2 from each carrier and start with that.

P.s. I signed up on squareconnect.com forums for the beta, and am willing to test it on my Evo. Been using it on my iPod touch for awhile now and really like it, but would like it on my phone.
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: SquareConnectMat on January 04, 2011, 03:44:33 am
@boyo

Appreciate the sign up.... Please keep signing up. I am still nit allowed to talk dates.

Mat
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: computerjohn on January 24, 2011, 11:57:02 pm
Hello everyone,

I just signed up as a Mi Casa Verde dealer and new to this forum. My background is heavily in computers and networking. I have been a service manager for Sprint for over 7 years now. I carry an HTC EVO myself, but have access to any Sprint handset. So, I wouldn't mind doing some beta testing. 
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: mario23 on April 01, 2011, 12:15:33 pm
cmon already!!!  ???
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: SquareConnectMat on April 01, 2011, 02:59:37 pm
We now have a new developer working on this...

I don't want to go into the details of past experiences on this... but getting an Android version working to satisfaction has been "interesting". I have high hopes for this version (mind you I had high hopes for the previous versions too).

Title: Re: Android?
Post by: iflyM3 on April 01, 2011, 09:23:48 pm
@SquareConnectMat

Yes!!!  I have been waiting ever so patiently for this to come to Android.  Please continue to push this.  :)
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: mario23 on April 03, 2011, 11:28:23 am
Yes please don't make get an Ipad  :P

Seriously though, I have an HTC Evo and two android tablets so I'd love to help if I can...
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: myhomeserver on April 06, 2011, 10:35:09 am
Im also waiting for an android version, I like Homebuddy but there are issues with the data reload every time I touch a device...
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: computerjohn on April 12, 2011, 11:04:27 pm
Yup have an EVO as well...  I'd love to see this on the EVO 3D..  I got to play with it at the wireless conference in FL last month.  ;D
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: dtl on May 05, 2011, 10:44:35 pm
I got my vera yesterday after much research and (mistakenly) thinking Homebuddy was a good and well updated program.

It partially works with everything which I think is even worse than if it did not work! I can turn my thermastat to "Heat" but not "Off" or to "Cool"... very useful!


Save me and my horrible research skills by releasing for android!
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: grybrd on May 07, 2011, 12:28:28 pm
@dtl ... what thermostat are you using I have Trane's and Home Buddy performs all the functions you mention ?????
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: nolos on June 01, 2011, 12:10:20 pm
Quick question and might have already been answered.  If I buy the Full version for my iPhone do I also need to buy another full version for my android tablet?  Same question for if I buy a blaster and get the full version for free?  Thanks
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: SquareConnectMat on June 02, 2011, 02:03:55 pm
@nolos,

We have not made any pricing decisions on future versions yet.... And please note the Android version is still in development. I don't expect to see a version in general release for quite some time. We have had several false starts and although I feel better about the current project, there are no guarantees.

Mat
Title: Re: Re: Re: Android?
Post by: computerjohn on July 08, 2011, 02:01:38 am
I got my vera yesterday after much research and (mistakenly) thinking Homebuddy was a good and well updated program.

It partially works with everything which I think is even worse than if it did not work! I can turn my thermastat to "Heat" but not "Off" or to "Cool"... very useful!


Save me and my horrible research skills by releasing for android!

I have used Home Buddy since it was released. I have no issues with it, except I have a minor issue with 3 zones showing motion on my alarm that are false. The developer is aware of the issue and is working on it.

Home Buddy is a working android app that is free!  So stop your whining. Also I have donated for my copy unlike other sponges.

Title: Re: Re: Re: Android?
Post by: computerjohn on July 08, 2011, 02:11:12 am
@nolos,

We have not made any pricing decisions on future versions yet.... And please note the Android version is still in development. I don't expect to see a version in general release for quite some time. We have had several false starts and although I feel better about the current project, there are no guarantees.

Mat

I for the life of me do not understand what is so difficult to release an Android version. Other companies do it all the time. Seems that you guys are more devoted to iOS which is fine, just stop telling us that it will be coming out. It has been 7 months now since I heard of an Android version coming out. With an answer "quite some time" that is like next year.

BTW there are more Android platform handsets than iOS, so you guys may want to think that over.

Title: Re: Android?
Post by: strangely on July 10, 2011, 03:04:50 am
@computerjohn, its not that they couldn't throw something together and do a reasonable job I expect! The tricky part is making it compatible with the iOS version not only from a look and feel standpoint, but also from a compatibility standpoint with the existing blaster, the upcoming pro, but also with the setup files and also the upcoming SQ designer / Adobe Air platform.

Imagine doing the above with a limited team, and then throw into the mix making it work with Mios, testing with multiple iOS version/hardware, whilst also actively coding the iPad app, SQ designer and working on your next gen hardware simultaneously!

None of this is easy and if you saw the amount of work that goes into all of this from the development team, and also a small army of beta testers finding bugs, you wouldn't be so hard on them.

I'm sure they'll reward you with you patience!
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: radarengineer on August 13, 2011, 08:43:19 pm
@SquareConnectMat

I just requested to be added to your beta for android. I downloaded SQ Designer and it seems very slick. My wife and I both have androids, and I have a lot of A/V equipment, so I would love to have an SQ Blaster and android control.

@strangly is absolutely right, and I understand you have to be intelligent about how you deploy your development resources. I also understand that android users can be cheap, but I for one would buy it.  :)
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: grybrd on August 25, 2011, 03:23:58 pm
@SCMat ... still waiting for Android ... check this:

Following on the heels of some impressive marketing data reports for last quarter, from the likes of ComScore and Nielsen, is a new report from Millennial Media. Their report further solidifies the remarkable and meteoric rise of the Android OS on smartphones. According to their data, in July, Android rose to blanket a 61% marketshare of all smartphones.
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: Kristopher on August 29, 2011, 12:21:06 am
I am looking for the SQBlaster Android beta.  My day job is managing a software team and I do not mind submitting bugs. 

Thanks,

Kristopher
Title: Re: Android?
Post by: www.ItsHouse.com.br on September 04, 2011, 10:54:04 pm
I am looking for the SQBlaster Android beta.  My day job is managing a software team and I do not mind submitting bugs. 

Thanks,

Kristopher


Kristopher,

If you can help in any way I'll be happy. If you do not mind could send me the beta? Email: celiocloves@gmail.com