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Beta and Pre-Release (Public) => Vera UI discussion => Topic started by: rge on January 12, 2017, 07:36:26 am

Title: Allow "no change" for sensor arming in Modes
Post by: rge on January 12, 2017, 07:36:26 am
I suggest adding a "no change" option to the "Choose sensors to arm" part of Modes.

So you would have "ARMED", "NO CHANGE", "DISARMED"

This would be useful for sensors which are manually or automatically armed (e.g. based on time, or other sensors) and not based on the mode.

It also allows the "armed" status to be used more generically - currently it seemed to be very strongly biased towards security.

(An even better option would to add an "enabled" or "disabled" switch, but that is probably a lot more complex...)
Title: Re: Allow "no change" for sensor arming in Modes
Post by: Mike Yeager on January 12, 2017, 12:18:46 pm
Using PLEG, you could simply use the trigger for the sensor being armed or disarmed to enforce the state you wanted it in. I do that with several virtual switches that control different features around the house.
Title: Re: Allow "no change" for sensor arming in Modes
Post by: rge on January 12, 2017, 04:37:57 pm
Yes, I did effectively that in Luup code to abort the scene, but it doesn't have any visual indication.

The "armed" status makes perfect sense for a motion detector; it's just annoying that Vera makes too strong assumptions about what "armed" means

a. armed is related to Mode

b. a triggered armed motion detector = burglary

Given how flexible it's supposed to be, this is a big annoyance of the UI for me.
Title: Re: Allow "no change" for sensor arming in Modes
Post by: Mike Yeager on January 14, 2017, 05:42:13 pm
I don't know how flexible it's supposed to be but I choose to operate it as I want to. That being said, I can see where a "No Change" option could be beneficial, but then you'd have a bunch of people crying that they didn't understand why things did what they did. Unfortunately, it's impossible to make everyone happy....