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Title: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 15, 2018, 02:09:11 pm
Who's going first?

http://support.getvera.com/customer/en/portal/articles/2912913

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Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: rigpapa on January 15, 2018, 03:19:25 pm
I'll watch.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: skalleno on January 15, 2018, 03:48:21 pm
Updated, everything running fine   :)
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Inzax on January 15, 2018, 04:23:12 pm
I thought about it....waived off.  Figured I would wait to see how many melt downs are posted.  Running the latest beta now and it is the most stable firmware for me yet.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Don Phillips on January 15, 2018, 04:39:06 pm
Me too. Popcorn almost ready.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Bill Scruggs on January 15, 2018, 05:12:51 pm
I jumped in head first! 2 Edges, 2 Pluses, and a Secure! All good so far.....
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Inzax on January 15, 2018, 06:17:36 pm
Ok...based on Bill SCruggs experience I am testing the waters with one of my Veras (VeraSecure)

Standby....

8 minutes.  Upgrade complete.  Looks good.  Weird.   
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Bill Scruggs on January 15, 2018, 06:21:11 pm
I was just reporting not suggesting! Upgrade at your own risk!
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Inzax on January 15, 2018, 06:23:25 pm
@Bill Scruggs.  No worries.  I would not have blamed you if things exploded.  I just would have downgraded. 
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: hellovn on January 15, 2018, 06:43:39 pm
Seems to be working fine for me.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Don Phillips on January 15, 2018, 07:13:07 pm
I am thinking Sunday - gives folks some time to crash and report, and I will have time to fiddle with a factory reset.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: shashankmittal on January 15, 2018, 09:40:41 pm
I upgraded today evening. Found couple issues with my Fortrezz water valve and Schlage door lock. Support cases created for Vera.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: kigmatzomat on January 15, 2018, 11:12:18 pm
At some point I will mount my spare wall switches  and sensors on a board to give my old Vera3 something to control while testing new firmwares.

Until then,
Godspeed, brave soldiers.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 16, 2018, 07:17:16 am
I upgraded today evening. Found couple issues with my Fortrezz water valve and Schlage door lock. Support cases created for Vera.

What issues?

I have a few FortrezZ contact relays and all my locks are Schlage.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 16, 2018, 07:19:13 am
I thought about it....waived off.  Figured I would wait to see how many melt downs are posted.  Running the latest beta now and it is the most stable firmware for me yet.

By "latest beta" do you mean v7.25b? Why not roll to the 7.25 release if the beta is performing well for you?
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Inzax on January 16, 2018, 07:26:16 am
@Sammy2 

I did just that.  It made sense that I would not have any issues.  I have just had some nightmare experiences with upgrades that cost me hours to fix.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 16, 2018, 07:40:31 am
@Sammy2 

I did just that.  It made sense that I would not have any issues.  I have just had some nightmare experiences with upgrades that cost me hours to fix.

Do you have Schlage Locks? If yes, to they report proper condition when manually locked?
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Cor on January 16, 2018, 07:52:06 am
Just upgraded from .3015.  All seems to be working OK , including sonos, wothout changing anything on ports ( was an issue on an a previous firmware I believe.

Only thing I noticed a Fibaro FGS-223 which always showed "not connected" has now suddenly changed in a Q1 and Q2 and a "combo device".

Cor
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: pls90 on January 16, 2018, 08:26:45 am
Cor, did the Fibaro change by itself just through updating or did you exclude/include? I have a couple of those...
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Inzax on January 16, 2018, 08:49:37 am
@Sammy2 

I did just that.  It made sense that I would not have any issues.  I have just had some nightmare experiences with upgrades that cost me hours to fix.

Do you have Schlage Locks? If yes, to they report proper condition when manually locked?

No Schlage locks.  Wait for somebody to jump with them before you.  Or, be the brave soldier.  I have a concord 4 panel (27 security devices), 4 apps (Housemode plugin, imperihome (3 touchscreens); system monitor; DeusExMachina II) 6 IP cameras; 7 GE dimmers; 3 appliance modules; 4 GE on off switches; 2 outdoor switches; 25 scenes; Running Vera Concierge)  I honestly don't know if what I have compared to others makes my system a challenge for updates or not.  It would seem the concord 4 panel suffers the most during upgrades.  Either everything is placed in "no room" while simultaneously removing the panel devices from any scenes OR scenes involving the panel just don't run right after an upgrade. 

So far, everything is good.  However, I have recently upgraded to a vera secure so perhaps my previous Edge device was challenged with my configuration.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: rge on January 16, 2018, 08:58:21 am
Utter mess - lost all my device names, rooms and scenes.

Restore from backup seems to do nothing.

This time I really am going to buy a Fibaro :-(
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: rge on January 16, 2018, 09:39:10 am
Restore from backup even after a full reset doesn't help - it puts my devices back, but still with the wrong types, no names, no rooms, no scenes, and the new firmware version.

Is there some way to really reset a VeraPlus?
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Inzax on January 16, 2018, 09:50:46 am
Restore from backup even after a full reset doesn't help - it puts my devices back, but still with the wrong types, no names, no rooms, no scenes, and the new firmware version.

Is there some way to really reset a VeraPlus?

At the bottom of the page for "backups" there is an option to "reset to default"

OR.

With the VeraPlus fully booted and plugged, locate the recessed reset button next to the Select and Sync buttons. Then take and paper clip and press the reset button 6 times within 6 seconds. This will trigger the factory reset process.

Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: rge on January 16, 2018, 09:53:10 am
Thanks - I tried the first one, it basically deleted all my devices and data but made no difference to the firmware.

Does the physical one do anything different?
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Inzax on January 16, 2018, 10:31:28 am
Thanks - I tried the first one, it basically deleted all my devices and data but made no difference to the firmware.

Does the physical one do anything different?

Sounds like you need a download link for the firmware that works for you, install that version, then do a restore from backup.

Edit: I don't know if the physical reset does anything different but I believe the vera will effort to install the latest firmware after being reset.

Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: rge on January 16, 2018, 10:37:10 am
Thanks - probably the firmware isn't really the issue, it's the fact that it trashed everything else and I don't think firmware will fix that.  I can put my scenes back, and reinstall DataMine, but it also changed all the device IDs which is beyond annoying.

Surprisingly, it just (two hours later) realised that one of my devices is a Smoke Detector and not a "Generic IO" device... maybe when stuff reports in.

Do I have the patience to wait though.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Cor on January 16, 2018, 12:10:31 pm
Cor, did the Fibaro change by itself just through updating or did you exclude/include? I have a couple of those...

By itself. So , both childs are now working normally. But were renamed and the parent recieved the "old" name.

Cor
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: pls90 on January 16, 2018, 01:04:59 pm
I see, thank you. will wait till weekend and then see how the general mood is.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Inzax on January 16, 2018, 03:39:20 pm
Thanks - probably the firmware isn't really the issue, it's the fact that it trashed everything else and I don't think firmware will fix that.  I can put my scenes back, and reinstall DataMine, but it also changed all the device IDs which is beyond annoying.

Surprisingly, it just (two hours later) realised that one of my devices is a Smoke Detector and not a "Generic IO" device... maybe when stuff reports in.

Do I have the patience to wait though.

Wouldn't a fresh install of firmware back to factory, followed by installation of a backup bring you back to the desired state, device ID's, Plugins and all?
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: rge on January 16, 2018, 05:13:34 pm
It didn't seem to - the firmware was not reverting.

I've basically rebuilt the whole thing now, only remaining step is to put my datamine history back.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 16, 2018, 05:27:42 pm
It didn't seem to - the firmware was not reverting.

I've basically rebuilt the whole thing now, only remaining step is to put my datamine history back.

How many devices and scenes do you have? It would take me a month of Sundays to rebuild mine.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: ALcALoIDe on January 16, 2018, 06:43:36 pm
I upgraded today evening. Found couple issues with my Fortrezz water valve and Schlage door lock. Support cases created for Vera.

Damn. I do have both. What problems did you have?
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Inzax on January 16, 2018, 07:58:01 pm
It didn't seem to - the firmware was not reverting.

I've basically rebuilt the whole thing now, only remaining step is to put my datamine history back.

Something seems odd.  Perhaps your vera is a little scrambled.  Only because I have done it multiple times with my edge, It should take.  Like starting with a clean slate.  Then shoot your backup from happier times on to the device. 

Good luck.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: kendad on January 16, 2018, 10:58:22 pm
@Sammy2 

I did just that.  It made sense that I would not have any issues.  I have just had some nightmare experiences with upgrades that cost me hours to fix.

Do you have Schlage Locks? If yes, to they report proper condition when manually locked?

Sammy2, I did upgrade yesterday on my VeraPlus. Everything seems to be working. I do have a Schlage BE469NXCAM619 connected and it works fine. Can control via Vera and does indicate correct status when I manually lock and unlock.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25 (1.7.3500)
Post by: melsman on January 16, 2018, 11:56:47 pm
Pushed the upgrade button...   :o 

VeraEdge now running 1.7.3500. Upgrade went without a hitch. All devices came through unscathed. Z-wave switches all show up in UI7 and function properly. Schlage locks still work. Chamberlain MyQ garage door openers work.  Cameras still working properly.  All plug-ins (alarm clock, virtual switches, timers, multistring, etc.) seem to be functioning properly.

I've been critical of MCV, but this upgrade was smooth, and - at least at the moment - appears to be solid.  Kudos, MCV.  :)

Melsman
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 17, 2018, 12:02:11 am
Pushed the upgrade button...   :o 

VeraEdge now running 1.7.3500. Upgrade went without a hitch. All devices came through unscathed. Z-wave switches all show up in UI7 and function properly. Schlage locks still work. Chamberlain MyQ garage door openers work.  Cameras still working properly.  All plug-ins (alarm clock, virtual switches, timers, multistring, etc.) seem to be functioning properly.

I've been critical of MCV, but this upgrade was smooth, and - at least at the moment - appears to be solid.  Kudos, MCV.  :)

Melsman
Good news. Building confidence on pulling trigger on upgrading.

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Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 17, 2018, 12:03:21 am
@Sammy2 

I did just that.  It made sense that I would not have any issues.  I have just had some nightmare experiences with upgrades that cost me hours to fix.

Do you have Schlage Locks? If yes, to they report proper condition when manually locked?

Sammy2, I did upgrade yesterday on my VeraPlus. Everything seems to be working. I do have a Schlage BE469NXCAM619 connected and it works fine. Can control via Vera and does indicate correct status when I manually lock and unlock.
Pushed the upgrade button...   :o 

VeraEdge now running 1.7.3500. Upgrade went without a hitch. All devices came through unscathed. Z-wave switches all show up in UI7 and function properly. Schlage locks still work. Chamberlain MyQ garage door openers work.  Cameras still working properly.  All plug-ins (alarm clock, virtual switches, timers, multistring, etc.) seem to be functioning properly.

I've been critical of MCV, but this upgrade was smooth, and - at least at the moment - appears to be solid.  Kudos, MCV.  :)

Melsman
Good news. Building confidence on pulling trigger on upgrading.

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Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: zedrally on January 17, 2018, 12:22:39 am
^^^
Anyone using RFXCom with the new FW and able to report if it works?
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Cor on January 17, 2018, 08:00:03 am
I found a problem  :(

I have a script running every 10 minutes , wich write the temperature to a file , those files are written in the folder www\blueiris
That folder is gone. When I created the new folder , and I run the scene with the script , nothing happends...... wonderfull  >:(

Cor
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Isablend on January 17, 2018, 08:28:06 am
^^^
Anyone using RFXCom with the new FW and able to report if it works?

Just finished upgrading and done some quick tests, all seems to be operating fine.   Please note I had previously downgraded (from .3232) and also done the .js code changes around correcting the port issue so those code changes may also be needed.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 17, 2018, 08:32:58 am
Reports seemed to be positive so I gave it a whirl and I got this:

/usr/bin/GetLatestVersion.sh: line 139: can't create /etc/cmh/version_latest: No space left on device

Guess I'll be opening a ticket but at least my Vera is functioning right now.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 17, 2018, 12:23:15 pm
Anybody else noticing that there Vera will revert to Home Mode a minute or two after manually setting it to Away Mode?
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Gadil on January 17, 2018, 01:29:28 pm
Guys
I have a disaster after the upgrade. Stay away!


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Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 17, 2018, 01:40:42 pm
About to revert to 7.3015, the last stable f/w for me.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Pantern on January 17, 2018, 02:01:18 pm
I am also struggling after the upgrade. Where can I find the previous firmware ?
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: ehillis on January 17, 2018, 02:15:11 pm
Upgraded VeraPlus ~160+ devices, 20 CAMs via BlueIris, 6 Alexa,s, sprinkler control, Sonos, and other stuff. Everything present and functional.

Well done to all the good folks at Vera Controls!
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 17, 2018, 02:18:27 pm
Upgraded VeraPlus ~160+ devices, 20 CAMs via BlueIris, 6 Alexa,s, sprinkler control, Sonos, and other stuff. Everything present and functional.

Well done to all the good folks at Vera Controls!

I'm wondering, do you use PLEG? How about the House Modes Plugin? Schlage Locks? How many scenes do you have?

You have about the same amount of devices as me but I'm seeing issues here with these things. I believe I have insufficient memory due to the error thrown on the f/w upgrade page but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: RichardTSchaefer on January 17, 2018, 02:28:10 pm
Start removing the cameras.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: ehillis on January 17, 2018, 02:34:38 pm
Start removing the cameras.

Why. They are managed by BlueIris and have been running securely for several years and notify vera of motion. Is there some reason?
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 17, 2018, 02:45:46 pm
I'm not sure why Richard is recommending this.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: ehillis on January 17, 2018, 03:25:27 pm
I'm not sure why Richard is recommending this.

I avoid plugins because of long term support concerns. I don't use PLEG. Avoid Energy stuff - use Brultech GEM's and Dashbox. Have ~30 scenes mostly related to irrigation.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 17, 2018, 03:30:49 pm
I find it difficult to get the automation I need without using Plugins so I use them. I use the Pool Control Plugin and have nearly 30 scenes just for automating my pool. I probably have in excess of 100 scenes altogether. BTW, to use cameras from BlueIris, don't you have to have that Plugin at least?
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: ehillis on January 17, 2018, 03:36:56 pm
I find it difficult to get the automation I need without using Plugins so I use them. I use the Pool Control Plugin and have nearly 30 scenes just for automating my pool. I probably have in excess of 100 scenes altogether. BTW, to use cameras from BlueIris, don't you have to have that Plugin at least?

I use it and have the code base for it in case.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: tedp on January 17, 2018, 04:38:41 pm
I upgraded -- looks like I lost all my "virtual door sensors" from my DSC plugin:
System error : Device: 127. Fail to load implementation file D_DoorSensor1.xml (I get this message repeated for all the virtual door sensor devices).

Any ideas on how to recover (without reverting)?

Thanks
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Forzaalfa on January 17, 2018, 05:37:06 pm
I upgraded yesterday, and all is very well with my plus! I get the impression that the gui is faster too?

Seems like space issues clutter up many Vera's out there, what do I do to prevent getting in that spot too?
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 17, 2018, 05:40:41 pm
Start removing the cameras.

Why. They are managed by BlueIris and have been running securely for several years and notify vera of motion. Is there some reason?

Why do you need the cameras in Vera? They are a hog and generally serve no purpose in vera.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: michelhamelin on January 17, 2018, 06:07:29 pm
Every thing is ok on my side, VeraSecure,  2 VeraPlus, 1 Vera3
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: ehillis on January 17, 2018, 06:08:25 pm
Start removing the cameras.

Why. They are managed by BlueIris and have been running securely for several years and notify vera of motion. Is there some reason?

Why do you need the cameras in Vera? They are a hog and generally serve no purpose in vera.

I use the motion sensors in the CAMs to kick off events. The wife likes them on her iPhone. I use BlueIris directly. I lowered the rate to vera and have no performance issues, the big plus is no battery operated motion sensors.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: bucko on January 17, 2018, 08:16:04 pm
Just did the upgrade to my VeraPlus. Everything went without a hitch and from the onset all is normal and functioning. PLEG, scenes, devices and about 10 other plugins appear to be normal.

I will update this post if after a few days something goes south.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 17, 2018, 09:04:44 pm
Strange absence of Vera Support after rolling this f/w.

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Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: reneboer on January 18, 2018, 05:10:34 am
Hi,

I upgraded a Lite and Edge without problems. Number three scheduled for tonight.

Cheers Rene
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sorin on January 18, 2018, 08:23:14 am
Strange absence of Vera Support after rolling this f/w.

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We're here Sammy :) We got your back.

Despite a few localized and very specific issues, this firmware is solid and we are marching on. Hoping everyone is well, and if you have any issues don't hesitate to let the feedback coming.  8)
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 18, 2018, 10:00:44 am
Strange absence of Vera Support after rolling this f/w.

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We're here Sammy :) We got your back.

Despite a few localized and very specific issues, this firmware is solid and we are marching on. Hoping everyone is well, and if you have any issues don't hesitate to let the feedback coming.  8)

Thanks Sorin M.

I have just posted my continuing issues with Vera updating Lock Status here (http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,53862.msg340825.html#msg340825).
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: szopen on January 18, 2018, 12:09:19 pm
@zedrally
I'm using RFXtrx433E with some chineese temperature+humidity sensors, protocol Rubicson (it is very simple setup - just for tests, I've had plans for integration with 433MHz but now I can see - it is probablly impossible for any person who is not a programmer)

Now I can say: I was using, but I'm not... don't upgrade.

I was using tinyman plugin version which had worked with 7.0.23 firmware (1.7.3232 - Vera Plus), RFXtrx433E firmware 1022 Ext.
It has strange behaviour after upgrade: none of my sensor works but it finds lots of unknown RFX Motion sensors.



But there is one advantage for me - user management now works properly - when I was on 7.0.23 it was impossible to change existing users.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 18, 2018, 12:28:37 pm
I am also struggling after the upgrade. Where can I find the previous firmware ?

Open a ticket. They will send you a link or do it for you in some cases.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: drapan on January 19, 2018, 01:56:08 am
Hello everyone

In a important Z-wave instalation that i have, with VeraPlus and 60+ devices , mostly Fibaro, i have an big issue with last firmware and specific Fibaro Double Switch 2 - FGS223
There are a lot of delays and retries when Vera trying to send commands to them

Strange thing is that those device are now officially included in this firmware
With the 7.023 i need to operate those devices with tricks provided on the forum here (thank you very much for that) but i don't notice this kind of retries and slowdowns in the newtork when Vera send commands to them
Also a similar device Single Switch 2 - FGS213 , that are not included officially in the last firmware , work properly

I think Customer support is shutdown by some means
Trying to reach them by phone from 2 days now , also email but no response

Very dissapointing to include officially a device and not to work properly

Dragos

Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Cor on January 19, 2018, 03:29:24 am

In a important Z-wave instalation that i have, with VeraPlus and 60+ devices , mostly Fibaro, i have an big issue with last firmware and specific Fibaro Double Switch 2 - FGS223
There are a lot of delays and retries when Vera trying to send commands to them

I have got 2 of those , they are working now with this firmware fine , no delays or retries, they are even quite far from the controller.

Cor
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: RitterIwan on January 19, 2018, 03:38:24 am
Hello,

I share the experience of drapan.
With the workaround provided in the forum the FGS223 worked fine.
But with the new firmware there are huge delays now and a lot of retries.
I already tried a re-inclusion with no improvement.

Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: johnes on January 19, 2018, 09:42:07 am
I'm not sure why Richard is recommending this.

I do... because Vera has really poor camera management and they are memory hogs, and there's no way to remove anything on the MCV servers.  So what I do is let BlueIris do it's thing and use Lua scripts to communicate to BlueIris from Vera for changing profiles, changing camera positions, etc.  But I let BI do everything else.  Works great and my cameras are not tied into BI.  Everything can be done via http requests.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: bucko on January 19, 2018, 09:49:16 am
Hello everyone

In a important Z-wave instalation that i have, with VeraPlus and 60+ devices , mostly Fibaro, i have an big issue with last firmware and specific Fibaro Double Switch 2 - FGS223
There are a lot of delays and retries when Vera trying to send commands to them

Strange thing is that those device are now officially included in this firmware
With the 7.023 i need to operate those devices with tricks provided on the forum here (thank you very much for that) but i don't notice this kind of retries and slowdowns in the newtork when Vera send commands to them
Also a similar device Single Switch 2 - FGS213 , that are not included officially in the last firmware , work properly

I think Customer support is shutdown by some means
Trying to reach them by phone from 2 days now , also email but no response

Very dissapointing to include officially a device and not to work properly

Dragos

I have 8 FGS223 and they are working fine after the upgrade.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 19, 2018, 09:55:22 am


I'm not sure why Richard is recommending this.

I do... because Vera has really poor camera management and they are memory hogs, and there's no way to remove anything on the MCV servers.  So what I do is let BlueIris do it's thing and use Lua scripts to communicate to BlueIris from Vera for changing profiles, changing camera positions, etc.  But I let BI do everything else. Works great and my cameras are not tied into BI.  Everything can be done via http requests.

Do you mean to say, ".. my cameras are not tied into Vera ?

As far as the scripts go to use BI camera motion sensors to trigger actions in Vera, where would I find examples? I'm interested in doing this. TIA


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Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: RogerO on January 19, 2018, 10:06:11 am
I upgraded my Vera Plus a couple of days ago. Now the status bar reads "LUAP: Failed to download all plugins, will retry in 10 minutes. UPnp Event Proxy[286]: Creating Init Script.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: ALcALoIDe on January 19, 2018, 06:01:40 pm
I upgraded yesterday and everything went smooth... until today, when I got lots of my devices not being able to be polled and they appear as disconnected. For the first time, after upgrading all other firmwares without a problem, this went south. How can I restore it to last firmware (34)?
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 19, 2018, 06:05:37 pm
I upgraded yesterday and everything went smooth... until today, when I got lots of my devices not being able to be polled and they appear as disconnected. For the first time, after upgrading all other firmwares without a problem, this went south. How can I restore it to last firmware (34)?

Contact support and they will send you a link or do it for you.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Don Phillips on January 19, 2018, 08:00:47 pm


I'm not sure why Richard is recommending this.

I do... because Vera has really poor camera management and they are memory hogs, and there's no way to remove anything on the MCV servers.  So what I do is let BlueIris do it's thing and use Lua scripts to communicate to BlueIris from Vera for changing profiles, changing camera positions, etc.  But I let BI do everything else. Works great and my cameras are not tied into BI.  Everything can be done via http requests.

Do you mean to say, ".. my cameras are not tied into Vera ?

As far as the scripts go to use BI camera motion sensors to trigger actions in Vera, where would I find examples? I'm interested in doing this. TIA


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I had to use 3 plug-ins: BlueIris, DVR, and Virtual Motion. If you search the forums, you will find how to set them up.

In my case, I use PLEG to arm/disarm BI (set the BI profile). The attached status report contains that logic and LUA code - also found on these forums.
 
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 20, 2018, 10:00:40 am


I'm not sure why Richard is recommending this.

I do... because Vera has really poor camera management and they are memory hogs, and there's no way to remove anything on the MCV servers.  So what I do is let BlueIris do it's thing and use Lua scripts to communicate to BlueIris from Vera for changing profiles, changing camera positions, etc.  But I let BI do everything else. Works great and my cameras are not tied into BI.  Everything can be done via http requests.

Do you mean to say, ".. my cameras are not tied into Vera ?

As far as the scripts go to use BI camera motion sensors to trigger actions in Vera, where would I find examples? I'm interested in doing this. TIA


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I had to use 3 plug-ins: BlueIris, DVR, and Virtual Motion. If you search the forums, you will find how to set them up.

In my case, I use PLEG to arm/disarm BI (set the BI profile). The attached status report contains that logic and LUA code - also found on these forums.

I used one Plugin and PLEG. The virtual motion is the plugin i needed. Vera accepts Http commands to flip on and off a virtual motion on the local network. Blueiris allows you to put these on and off http commands in the "Alerts" section of each camera and for each profile you want. So when a camera sensed motion it would record in BI and it would send an http to vera to kick on the virtual motion.

I also changed profiles with vera sending http commands bleuiris.

All of this is excatly what the plugin also does. I just eliminated the actual camera pictures from being in vera. There is no reason for me to see them there when I have blueiris and I trust my images not to be in the cloud. Let alone the performance issues.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: ALcALoIDe on January 20, 2018, 12:12:28 pm
I upgraded yesterday and everything went smooth... until today, when I got lots of my devices not being able to be polled and they appear as disconnected. For the first time, after upgrading all other firmwares without a problem, this went south. How can I restore it to last firmware (34)?

Although I did contact support through email, I still have't gotten a response, but... After I unplugged Vera Plus from the wall, waited 10 seconds and plugged it again, it seems my "missing devices" were "found" again and now I can poll other devices as well. I did have to unpair and pair a couple of devices, but it seems it is working normally. I hope I don't face new challenges
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: tfspark on January 20, 2018, 12:14:52 pm
I have just upgraded my Plus and it now doesn't work.

In the blue banner at the top it says "Z-WAVE: this device does not appear to offer z-wave communication"

I have tried power cycling several times to no avail.
All lights are lighted on the Plus.

I can log into the gui but can't restore a backup as I just get a spinning wheel.

Is it worth a factory reset then a restore?
I guess I've got nothing to lose!!
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: tfspark on January 20, 2018, 01:04:22 pm
I have just done a factory reset and a restore from a couple of days ago.

Same.

I have just completed a help request, so we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Don Phillips on January 20, 2018, 07:51:17 pm


I'm not sure why Richard is recommending this.

I do... because Vera has really poor camera management and they are memory hogs, and there's no way to remove anything on the MCV servers.  So what I do is let BlueIris do it's thing and use Lua scripts to communicate to BlueIris from Vera for changing profiles, changing camera positions, etc.  But I let BI do everything else. Works great and my cameras are not tied into BI.  Everything can be done via http requests.

Do you mean to say, ".. my cameras are not tied into Vera ?

As far as the scripts go to use BI camera motion sensors to trigger actions in Vera, where would I find examples? I'm interested in doing this. TIA


Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk

I had to use 3 plug-ins: BlueIris, DVR, and Virtual Motion. If you search the forums, you will find how to set them up.

In my case, I use PLEG to arm/disarm BI (set the BI profile). The attached status report contains that logic and LUA code - also found on these forums.

I used one Plugin and PLEG. The virtual motion is the plugin i needed. Vera accepts Http commands to flip on and off a virtual motion on the local network. Blueiris allows you to put these on and off http commands in the "Alerts" section of each camera and for each profile you want. So when a camera sensed motion it would record in BI and it would send an http to vera to kick on the virtual motion.

I also changed profiles with vera sending http commands bleuiris.

All of this is excatly what the plugin also does. I just eliminated the actual camera pictures from being in vera. There is no reason for me to see them there when I have blueiris and I trust my images not to be in the cloud. Let alone the performance issues.

The reason I use the BI and DVR plug-ins is to view my cameras on VeraMate. I have a composite feed of all 4 cameras on my main page, and each camera has its own feed in its perspective room in case I need to see a larger image.  Here is a screenshot of the main screen:
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: JPI on January 21, 2018, 12:23:54 am
I have just upgraded my Plus and it now doesn't work.

In the blue banner at the top it says "Z-WAVE: this device does not appear to offer z-wave communication"

I have tried power cycling several times to no avail.
All lights are lighted on the Plus.

I can log into the gui but can't restore a backup as I just get a spinning wheel.

Is it worth a factory reset then a restore?
I guess I've got nothing to lose!!

I had exactly same problems after upgrade, sent one email to vera support , problem solved in less than 12 hours. 
Do the same and you will be surprised, vera support is quite good.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Don Phillips on January 21, 2018, 12:11:20 pm
Updated a few minutes ago. No issues except I had to delete my old DataMine folder to clear enough room for the update. All seems to be working fine so far.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: mano on January 21, 2018, 05:51:40 pm
Upgraded mine, today, no response from units, Downgraded to previous firmware backup, zilch.
Will send a support case
what a let down...
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Don Phillips on January 21, 2018, 06:41:46 pm
I spoke too soon. I noticed my exterior lights did not turn on. Looks like all 3 Jasco switches are missing and the Leviton wall outlet. Trying to restore backups. No dice. Opened a ticket.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Mai Pensato on January 21, 2018, 06:45:35 pm
In the topic on Philips Hue plugin some users mention this plugin does not work anymore with this firmware version. Is this structural? I have quite some Hue bulbs in my setup.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: kartcon on January 21, 2018, 09:01:24 pm
I've spent the better part of the entire weekend facing either a VERY misbehaving or totally dead Vera Secure. After the thermo-nuclear meltdown of my original Vera secure, a new unit arrived. Plugged in, powered up and right into a firmware upgrade. Arrived as 1.7.2937 - upgraded to 1.7.3202. Restored my settings and network. So far so good.

Then I started to notice some issues, mostly due to door sensors 'sticking' or tripping when not even moving. Rogue trips and then when I did open a door the sensor would not un-trip, so non-functional for the next open/close. Did some forum research to see I was not alone. Best suggestion was to downgrade to 1.7.3233. This was the version that was running and STABLE on my prior unit. I submitted a support ticket and had a response the next morning (with a link to the downgrade and basic instructions).

From the time I did the downgrade things went steadily south. First it was "Failed to download all plug-ins" followed by existing plug-ins not working to finally a complete system crash. Did the power cycle bit followed by a factory reset and reinstall of the backup made just before the downgrade. Rebooted to just a power light - nothing else. BRICKED!

Left a message with tech support and got a call back several hours later. 90 minutes later I had a fresh controller with 1.7.3524. The support tech tells me this is the fix for the door sensor issue. Fingers crossed I hang up and wait. Within 30 minutes I get the first rouge sensor hit. Shortly after that two basic device fall off the network. Lots more rogue door sensor trips and both thermostats act like they are working but I'm not so sure. There is a six degree discrepancy between what Vera says and what the T-Stat says.

In the course of two weeks I've had two controllers degrade to brick status. I've run four different firmware versions, each with its own set of issues and wasted countless hours. As I type I have a fancy "light turner oner" but no security sensors or sense of stability as we go into another night of alarm system disabled. I really do LIKE my Vera but I'm running out of patience. I can honestly says that Customer Service has done a stand up job trying to keep my system alive but somewhere there is a software engineer that needs a good beating! I would rather wait a year for a new firmware upgrade IF I could be assured that everything will work when it gets installed. This fix one thing and break two others is making me crazy!

I simply don't know what to think at this point. Cut my losses and invest in another system or hope that this phase will pass? I fear that the later is overly optimistic so I'll ask the question: What controllers would you suggest? Home Seer seems like a the obvious choice but from what I can see it will cost 3 to 4 times that of my Vera Secure (plus paid plug-ins and the purchase of a Windows PC). That may be a hard sell to the wife. Some of the other platforms seem to be lacking in ability or overall finish. I know I'm not alone here so any suggestions would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: hellovn on January 22, 2018, 11:36:29 am
In the topic on Philips Hue plugin some users mention this plugin does not work anymore with this firmware version. Is this structural? I have quite some Hue bulbs in my setup.

My Philips hue plugin is still working fine.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: RogerO on January 22, 2018, 05:03:30 pm
Kartcon,
My symptoms were exactly the same as yours. My outcome was not so good, Three + hours with Tech support and I have a dead VeraPlus. Waiting to hear on a replacement from Vera. QQ if anyone knows: Will I be able to restore z-wave and apps from backup to a new controller? Adding the devices is not that hard, but don't remember all my Pleg logic. Will be a pain to rebuild.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: bucko on January 22, 2018, 07:26:19 pm
1st day after update everything seemed ok. 24 hrs later everything went south. Even cp.mios says I have no controller now! Update has totally screwed my Veraplus. Support has not contacted me as of yet about rolling back FW.

I am offline until support offers a solution.

My advice.....DO NOT UPGRADE!
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: kartcon on January 22, 2018, 07:43:05 pm
RogerO,

Yes, you 'should' be able to recover your z-wave devices and all your settings from the backup. I can tell you from experience, even a verified backup will not always install completely. It took two tries for my backup to work right. Hint: Download the back up, extract it to your local machine and LOOK at the file structure. What you see there you should see on your Vera once you ssh in. On the first go round I only had 2 I_xxxxxxx implementation files on my Vera while there were at least 15 in the backup. This lead to the "Failed to download all plugins" message. Did a second restore and everything now OK.

I highly suggest you get comfortable with ssh'ing into your Vera. I'm on a Mac, so can't help with PC software, but with the Mac I use RBrowser. Pay the registration fee. Its well worth it.

Lastly, although its a moot point now, once your system is back up and running, export your PLEG settings to either a file or to a PDF and save them. You can reload the settings from the backup file AND you'll have a reference version if something goes terribly wrong.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 22, 2018, 07:44:14 pm
So that's two failure firmware in a row from MCV. When are they going to get it together?

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Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: RogerO on January 22, 2018, 08:05:46 pm
I spoke to support again and they would not replace my device. Ordered a new one of Amazon and they told me not to upgrade it because there is a known issue.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 22, 2018, 08:09:41 pm
I spoke to support again and they would not replace my device. Ordered a new one of Amazon and they told me not to upgrade it because there is a known issue.

Just send back the bricked one DOA for a refund..
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: RogerO on January 22, 2018, 08:10:34 pm
To who?
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Don Phillips on January 22, 2018, 08:54:59 pm
I spoke too soon. I noticed my exterior lights did not turn on. Looks like all 3 Jasco switches are missing and the Leviton wall outlet. Trying to restore backups. No dice. Opened a ticket.

Looking at the logs, I was missing the D_BinaryLight1.xml file. Tried uploading it via UI7 - no good. Uploaded it with WinSCP, and now all 3 Jasco switches and the Leviton switch all work fine.

Still have not heard from support.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 22, 2018, 09:47:05 pm
I spoke too soon. I noticed my exterior lights did not turn on. Looks like all 3 Jasco switches are missing and the Leviton wall outlet. Trying to restore backups. No dice. Opened a ticket.

Looking at the logs, I was missing the D_BinaryLight1.xml file. Tried uploading it via UI7 - no good. Uploaded it with WinSCP, and now all 3 Jasco switches and the Leviton switch all work fine.

Still have not heard from support.

Support had to put some files back for me too even after getting reverted to v7.2015 (7.23). My Schlage Locks still aren't reporting locked status correctly and I'm troubleshooting it but other things, like my pool, are taking priority right now. During this week and next weekend.. For the most part, I'm running good right now except for that annoying nag to upgrade the f/w.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: kwieto on January 23, 2018, 04:55:15 am
I have mixed feelings.
I upgraded both my controllers (Plus and Edge) on 17th Jan. Till 20th both worked fine, then one of them started to have luup reloads every 12-15 minutes (according to datamine: over 190 reloads during 48h period). The other one is stable and I don't see any issues.
Strange
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: bbosch on January 23, 2018, 11:21:47 am
Update was disastrous! I think I've bricked my VeraPlus.
Ran the firmware update like one does to go to 1.7.3501 (I think...)

Managed to open the dashboard locally once after it failed to update.
Reason for failure it stated was: "Not Enough Storage to Update Controller"
So, I though, lets uninstall some apps and try again... No luck. After uninstalling ERGY (High storage with logs etc) I tried a reboot.

Now, cannot log into the dashboard at all. Power, Internet and Wifi stays on and the other lights flash intermittently.
Can?t seem to SSH...

Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: zedrally on January 23, 2018, 04:16:51 pm
snip

Still have not heard from support.


I have heard that it's best to call them.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Don Phillips on January 23, 2018, 06:36:25 pm
Update was disastrous! I think I've bricked my VeraPlus.
Ran the firmware update like one does to go to 1.7.3501 (I think...)

Managed to open the dashboard locally once after it failed to update.
Reason for failure it stated was: "Not Enough Storage to Update Controller"
So, I though, lets uninstall some apps and try again... No luck. After uninstalling ERGY (High storage with logs etc) I tried a reboot.

Now, cannot log into the dashboard at all. Power, Internet and Wifi stays on and the other lights flash intermittently.
Can?t seem to SSH...



What I have to do with my Vera 3 is restore to factory settings and delete the datamine folder. That clears enough room to update the firmware.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 23, 2018, 06:44:33 pm
Update was disastrous! I think I've bricked my VeraPlus.
Ran the firmware update like one does to go to 1.7.3501 (I think...)

Managed to open the dashboard locally once after it failed to update.
Reason for failure it stated was: "Not Enough Storage to Update Controller"
So, I though, lets uninstall some apps and try again... No luck. After uninstalling ERGY (High storage with logs etc) I tried a reboot.

Now, cannot log into the dashboard at all. Power, Internet and Wifi stays on and the other lights flash intermittently.
Can?t seem to SSH...



What I have to do with my Vera 3 is restore to factory settings and delete the datamine folder. That clears enough room to update the firmware.

What F/W are you running?

I'm back on 7.23 on my VeraPlus.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Don Phillips on January 23, 2018, 06:58:45 pm

What F/W are you running?

I'm back on 7.23 on my VeraPlus.

7.25 (1.7.1017 for the Vera 3)
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 23, 2018, 07:09:30 pm

What F/W are you running?

I'm back on 7.23 on my VeraPlus.

7.25 (1.7.1017 for the Vera 3)

I got a message via Facebook Messenger that there's know issues on the Plus with the latest f/w. Sheez.. that's two back to back. I'm staying put for a while but have the annoying nag to upgrade the f/w ever time I login.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Inzax on January 23, 2018, 07:44:19 pm
@Sammy2  I had good luck with the 25b  (last beta) on my edge.   On my vera secure this 7.0.25 has been pretty solid.  Any issues I have been able to struggle through and resolve. 

Its unfortunate the last two fw upgrades have been more like setbacks for some.  I gave my old Edge to a friend.  I am keeping him on the last beta since he is clueless on such things and just wants something that works. 

Brings up the unfortunate reality that I don't think I could ever recommend Vera to someone looking for a fire and forget system.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 23, 2018, 07:53:27 pm
@Sammy2  I had good luck with the 25b  (last beta) on my edge.   On my vera secure this 7.0.25 has been pretty solid.  Any issues I have been able to struggle through and resolve. 

Its unfortunate the last two fw upgrades have been more like setbacks for some.  I gave my old Edge to a friend.  I am keeping him on the last beta since he is clueless on such things and just wants something that works. 

Brings up the unfortunate reality that I don't think I could ever recommend Vera to someone looking for a fire and forget system.

Except for my constant tweaking and adding stuff it has been set it and forget it up until these latest firmware releases.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Mai Pensato on January 24, 2018, 04:21:10 am
I spoke to support again and they would not replace my device. Ordered a new one of Amazon and they told me not to upgrade it because there is a known issue.
Your Vera was bricked during a session that Vera tried to fix things .... and now they don't want to replace it ???  I would never accept that.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Mai Pensato on January 24, 2018, 04:35:39 am
Past THREE firmware updates from Vera were all disastrous: last two ones they pulled back themselves. The one before screwed up some plugins that are used by many Vera users (issue with port number).
Personally I did not upgrade to all these 3 (my VeraPlus is still on firmware 1.7.2935) but I also have serious problems now with continuous reboots (see other thread). This after 10 months of no real performance issues.  I send an email to Vera support three days ago but still no response....   And also on this forum they are suddenly very quiet (Sorin M. was very active till end of last week).
I don't know what's going on but it does not seem very positive.   I will try to call them later today. My patience with Vera (after more than 4 year using) is now over.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Mai Pensato on January 24, 2018, 12:59:20 pm
Well Bogdan from Vera Support contacted me today via e-mail en asked me to enable  remote access. I did it directly and are now waiting for him to dig into my unit. Hopelfull this does not take too long.....
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: resq93 on January 24, 2018, 01:59:18 pm
I have never had a more frustrating experience in my life! wasted days and tens of hours on trying to get my rock solid setup back to stable again. Even replaced all my old devices with zwave plus devices. get one or two good days and then all hell breaks loose again! now in endless reloads...
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: resq93 on January 24, 2018, 05:27:01 pm
finally had a good call with support. They were able to delete some useless files on the vera plus and things seem to be ok. Hope it stays that way!
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: JohnRob on January 25, 2018, 11:56:05 pm
I've periodically seen problems blamed on the existence of some older / useless / rogue files.  Was wondering is there such a thing as a "clean install" ?

Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: kartcon on January 28, 2018, 10:24:16 pm
I agree, my patience is wearing thin with all the firmware trouble over the past two weeks. After several calls with tech support, my system was up and running until late this afternoon. Completely out of the blue, I lost internet connection and then all connectivity. Now the controller is offline, unreachable and basically a doorstop.

This week I had just completed putting together a Raspberry Pi3 and have OpenLuup and Alt UI running on it. Unfortunately, I'm still very much a rookie when it comes to both software packages and the RPi3 platform. It looks very promising for me as an alternative to having Vera do most of the work. My problem is I don't know what to do next. With an offline Vera, I can't do or test anything on the RPi. I've spent countless hours trying to fine tune my Vera only to scrap most of the features so that the system could continue to run and perform basic tasks.

Assuming I can get my Vera Secure back up and running, can I use it simply as a Z-wave communicator? In other word, move EVERYTHING off the Secure and run all logic on AltUI. I have all my plugin files residing on the Pi and would need to replicate my PLEG logic in AltUI. Yes, there would be a ton of work to convert everything (not to mention the learning curve) but I'm tired of not having a stable system.

If you are using your RPi as I have described, I would love to discuss how I should go about it. If this isn't possible, what other option do I have with the Pi system using another ZWave controller? Thanks for any input.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: zedrally on January 28, 2018, 10:32:27 pm
I would strongly suggest that you move all of your Z-Wave devices over to a UZB, that will give you the flexibility to move between systems if you please and not be dependant on Vera for communication.
If you decide to come back to Vera, it's relatively easy to configure the UZB to run with whichever Vera you use.


edit: have a look at openHab for use with a Pi.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 29, 2018, 09:59:40 am
UZB?
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: integlikewhoa on January 29, 2018, 11:23:36 am
UZB?

He means a USB Z-wave stick.

ACC-UZB2-U Would be one part number of a specific one. But there are many.

Z-stick
Smartstick+

Are other brands.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on January 29, 2018, 02:04:12 pm
UZB?

He means a USB Z-wave stick.

ACC-UZB2-U Would be one part number of a specific one. But there are many.

Z-stick
Smartstick+

Are other brands.

That is what I thought.. So we're talking about moving the automation to a rPi or PC using openHAB here?

I toured some model homes with smart features last weekend. I took it upon myself to open the cabinet containing everything and in there was a SmartThings Hub, which IMHO is inferior to VeraPlus, along with a bunch of other hubs for Lutron Casita etc. I think for resale that running on a hub is probably preferred over running on a PC or rPi.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: kartcon on January 29, 2018, 09:48:04 pm
That was my question exactly. I recently got a RPi3 and OpenLuup/AltUI, but I am very new to this entire setup. Will AltUI perform the same kinds of logic control that I am used to with PLEG? Will a 'devices only' Vera act as the controller for all my devices using the logic provided by AltUI? From what I can tell with less than two days experience with AltUI, it seems the answer would be Yes. Unfortunately I'm still learning how to set everything up, especially understanding the equivalents of 'conditions' and 'actions'. Along the same line, is there an English version of an AltUI users manual?

Anyone care to share some basic Alt UI examples of device automation using triggers, timers, schedules and the associated response to activate a device.
For example: At 4pm every day turn on kitchen lights, or Lock the Front door if house mode changes to Away.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: zedrally on January 29, 2018, 10:04:59 pm
Unfortunately, PLEG does not work with AltUI or is that around the other way?
The reason why can be found in a search.
There are different Logic PI's which will do nearly exactly what you want, the only thing I believe that is missing with these is the ability to perform sequence expressions. (I could be wrong on this and stand to be corrected).
Once you become familiar with PLEG, it's extremely hard to move to another PI.






Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: kartcon on January 29, 2018, 10:30:20 pm
Yeah, I already knew that PLEG and AltUI were not compatible. As much as I like PLEG, I am only using it to perform basic logic evaluations and I was hoping that AltUI offered similar functionality. I spent some time looking at the forums and the French Users Manual but could not grasp the workflow. Until I can get my hands on the full (registered) interface I can only assume that I can duplicate my existing logic.
I'm ready to accept the learning curve, and willing to start simple. Once I understand the methodology I can build on it to restore my system to its original performance.

That was, and still is my original question; is AltUI capable of logic control similar to PLEG and can AltUI use Vera as the controller while running the logic within AltUI.
The Vera controller would be basically naked, except for devices.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: reneboer on January 30, 2018, 04:36:28 am
Hi,

There is a lot of information on the way scenes work in ALTUI and the registered version supports advanced workflows that are simpler to learn than PLEG IMO. And it is not that PLEG and ALTUI are not working together. On a PI you emulate a Vera using openLuup and use ALTUI as GUI. PLEG does not run on that as PLEG has encrypted modules you cannot transfer to your PI. Have a read under the ALTUI forum board http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/board,78.0.html (http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/board,78.0.html)

Cheers Rene
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: amg0 on January 30, 2018, 05:56:52 am
Yeah, I already knew that PLEG and AltUI were not compatible. As much as I like PLEG, I am only using it to perform basic logic evaluations and I was hoping that AltUI offered similar functionality. I spent some time looking at the forums and the French Users Manual but could not grasp the workflow. Until I can get my hands on the full (registered) interface I can only assume that I can duplicate my existing logic.
I'm ready to accept the learning curve, and willing to start simple. Once I understand the methodology I can build on it to restore my system to its original performance.

That was, and still is my original question; is AltUI capable of logic control similar to PLEG and can AltUI use Vera as the controller while running the logic within AltUI.
The Vera controller would be basically naked, except for devices.

ALTUI has a client part and a server part. the client part is really just the UI with a few extra goodies compared to std UI7 but it does not run any logic.
The server side part ( is a VERA plugin in fact ) runs various logic which are not provided by std VERA like workflows, variable triggers, reboot resistant timers , IFTTT integration as a trigger , pushing data values to persistent storages etc
Workflows are described in the workflow post under the subforum http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/board,78.0.html
it is in english , with some provided examples
Title: Disaster upgrading to Firmware 7.25
Post by: elo on January 31, 2018, 01:40:13 pm
Upgraded my Vera 3 to 1.7.1017. First issue was lack of space so had to reset to factory defaults and apply last backup. The upgrade seemed to go OK but when getting back online ALL my Z-Wave devices are gone. Left was Harmony Hub and Philips Hue hub and lights. I have tried to use a more previous backup but with the same result.  I have two Veras ion my house and during the last 6 months I have had a lot of trouble with new firmware and i am fed up with this to be honest. Further the online help on the issue of lack of memory is directly wrong . IT SHOWS a button alternative which is not there as for my Vera there was no alternative to start the upgrade when the unit reported out of memory.

I have no idea on how to fix the issue. It seems that the logical expressions in PLEG is present using the UIDs valid for the previous FW.
Anyone know where i can find links to previous SW versions?
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: MtView on January 31, 2018, 02:03:11 pm
The same thing happened to me when I had to do a restore. Make sure you check restore z wave network before restoring. If the devices are still gone power cycle the unit. Also make sure you are signed in. My devices didn't come back until I power cycled the unit but they did come back.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: elo on January 31, 2018, 04:14:03 pm
Thanks.. I did power cycle the unit and the tick-mark for restoring the network is on (although grayed?). I did a downgrade and even that did not bring the devices back!

I will try another time and pay attention to your advice
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: elo on January 31, 2018, 04:46:25 pm
This is embarrassing... Thanks for your reply as I had forgot to activate restore z wave network. It works fine now and I have restored my faith in Vera....
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: vosmont on February 02, 2018, 04:39:40 pm
VeraEdge 1.7.3500.

api.performActionOnDevice is broken.

Utils.ajaxRequest set variable headers to "", and jQuery.ajax is in error :" DOMException: Failed to execute 'setRequestHeader' on 'XMLHttpRequest'"

All my plugins are broken.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: reneboer on February 03, 2018, 10:24:51 am
Hi Vosmont,

I did a test with one of my plugins that has this call:
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function doReload(deviceID) {
api.performActionOnDevice(0, "urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:HomeAutomationGateway1", "Reload", {});
}
Using Firefox and Chrome it is working.

Cheers Rene
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: vosmont on February 04, 2018, 07:43:07 am
Can you test that in your browser console ?

Code: [Select]
api.performActionOnDevice(198, "urn:upnp-org:serviceId:SwitchPower1", "SetTarget", { actionArguments: { newTargetValue: 1}, onFailure: function(err) { console.log(err); } });

It does not work on my VeraEdge (in local)
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sammy2 on February 06, 2018, 02:39:41 pm
With a little help from my friends at Vera support (Juan Pablo and Brian) I'm happy to report everything is running fine on my VeraPlus on f/w 7.25.01..
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Don Phillips on February 06, 2018, 08:18:06 pm
Glad to hear - you were having some serious issues.
Title: Re: Firmware 7.25
Post by: Sorin on February 07, 2018, 06:25:27 am
VeraEdge 1.7.3500.

api.performActionOnDevice is broken.

Utils.ajaxRequest set variable headers to "", and jQuery.ajax is in error :" DOMException: Failed to execute 'setRequestHeader' on 'XMLHttpRequest'"

All my plugins are broken.

@vosmont, you have a PM from me.

With a little help from my friends at Vera support (Juan Pablo and Brian) I'm happy to report everything is running fine on my VeraPlus on f/w 7.25.01..

Our team is grateful to see your feedback. Thank you Sammy!