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Title: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on May 10, 2011, 09:15:18 pm
Hi All,
This is an ongoing project developing new tools for the Vera. It is a PC program that needs a run time engine installed prior to running the program. It is all FREE including the runtime engine.http://ftp.ni.com/support/softlib/labview/labview_runtime/8.0/windows/LabVIEW_8.0_Runtime_Engine.exe (http://ftp.ni.com/support/softlib/labview/labview_runtime/8.0/windows/LabVIEW_8.0_Runtime_Engine.exe)
We have come along way thanks to many users who have been acting as Beta Testers.... Thank you to all that have helped.
Features:
Read the "Sdata" JSON file and parse it into a list of Devices, Scenes, Categories, and Rooms.
Report Generator will export the information to Excel or HTML tables for printing.
Variable Watch will give you a view of ALL the variables from any device and update them every 2 seconds
Control  Point...will give you pads to set up dimmers, switches, and scene buttons for controlling Vera from your touchscreen computer or laptop.

If you have a PC then try this out.....It is designed to teach you about the Vera and allow you to expand it's capabilities.

Regards
Tim Alls
AllSeas Yachts

EDIT ************************
http://www.box.net/shared/so30ep0uibzn4sjhipjg (http://www.box.net/shared/so30ep0uibzn4sjhipjg)
Latest version 1.018

I am coming down home stretch.....
The Save Configuration is now working
Added help dialogue for Digital and Analog Charting
Complete overhaul on the dimmers to make them touchscreen friendly....no popups, just slide!
Easy "Control Pad" setup....Names, Dimmers, Switches, and Scenes all setup and saved in same Tab
Screen Resolution stretching.....allows the window to be stretched in higher resolution

Introduced the Security Readout panel....for me it is the DSC window and door zones.

Bugs? let me know ....I think we are close.

The code generator is officially out of this version.....
I think it is too complex to have it here....it will be a standalone application when this one is finished and documented

By the way, I am using this program as a guide and developing a Universal Engine Monitor.
Beta testers will have to have an electronic diesel engine and a J1939  ModBus adapter....It will have all the features used in the Boeing 747 Engine Instrumentation Display!

Regards
Tim Alls
AllSeas Yachts




Title: Re: Code for a New Vera UI
Post by: TimAlls on May 11, 2011, 08:41:29 pm
Here is the latest on the New UI.....
Added a configuration file so that it will remember your setup
Added pull down menus for dimmer assignments
Added Scene buttons with pull down menu for assignment

To run this application you must have Labview Runtime download for free:
Download my Executible file: http://www.box.net/shared/sca484trmq (http://www.box.net/shared/sca484trmq)
You must copy the Calibtble.txt file to:  c:\Calibtble.txt I will automate it later.
Give me feedback when you can.

Thanks
Tim
Title: Re: Code for a New Vera UI
Post by: MNB on May 12, 2011, 03:12:34 pm
@TimAlls, noticed that your new UI seems to be boat related? Do the tabs adjust based on ones Vera GUI inputs (rooms and partitions)? The current solution seems to be great for local access but probably doesn't cater for remote access today? Will download and advise. Mike
Title: Re: Code for a New Vera UI
Post by: TimAlls on May 12, 2011, 03:42:37 pm
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@TimAlls, noticed that your new UI seems to be boat related? Do the tabs adjust based on ones Vera GUI inputs (rooms and partitions)? The current solution seems to be great for local access but probably doesn't cater for remote access today? Will download and advise. Mike
The latest version reads your Vera and uses your labels so you won't have to have your living room refered to as a Salon!
It is good for local control but works great when used with Logmein.com.....this gives you the same feature as MIOS....operate from anywhere in the world. It also works great with a program called Splashtop that can run on your IPad or other local computer. This will allow local remote control.
Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Code for a New Vera UI
Post by: ballroller on May 14, 2011, 05:56:49 pm
When you mean the latest version, is that one you are working on? I ask because the current downloadable version still shows your nautical headings.
Title: Re: Code for a New Vera UI
Post by: TimAlls on May 14, 2011, 07:02:49 pm
In my latest version you fill out the table with your own labels and press update/save, the tabs then read accordingly.
I am adding switches, thermostats, and DAD data into the next version.
Regards
Tim

Watch out on the setup.....you need to place my configuration text file in the C: root directory or you will get a file error. I will fix this on the next version.
Title: Re: Code for a New Vera UI
Post by: Ap15e on May 14, 2011, 08:02:13 pm
If there are no rooms, the scenes get listed on the 'Rooms' tab, 'SAVE/UPDATE' does not work.
Title: Re: Code for a New Vera UI
Post by: TimAlls on May 15, 2011, 12:39:10 am
If there are no rooms, the scenes get listed on the 'Rooms' tab, 'SAVE/UPDATE' does not work.
Thanks.....I found the bug and am working on a fix.
Tim
Title: Re: Code for a New Vera UI
Post by: MNB on May 18, 2011, 01:29:27 pm
We also have an agency working on UI5.  You can preview the concepts here: http://alexusart.com/ui5/  the goal is to eliminate having all these separate UI's like we do now (ie local Ui4, cp.mios portal, separate energy and video archiving, etc.).  In this case there's 1 and only 1 UI which blends both the local stuff and online stuff together, so it's exactly the same whether you access it remotely or locally.  For example, to view the device properties now you go to a local UI.  To view the device's events, you log onto cp.mios.  This confuses users to no end.  So now they're all in the device control and if you're operating locally without a cp.mios account, the 'event' tab just prompts you to login to your account.


@TimAlls, have you seen the proposed Ui5 not sure when this will be available, but of note interesting concepts for device and scene displays... food for thought Mike
Title: Re: Code for a New Vera UI
Post by: ballroller on May 18, 2011, 02:19:39 pm
That UI5 is pretty, but to me the important part is how well it works. UI2's looks were just fine, as are UI4. We can all get used to a new look as long as it functions properly.
Title: Re: Code for a New Vera UI
Post by: TimAlls on May 18, 2011, 11:50:39 pm
I looked at the new UI5.....the question I have is how well can it work as a control point? Is it touch screen friendly? Will controls respond quickly?
I am curious but I am excited to continue with mine because....
I am going to be merging all my projects into one, it will generate code, control and display quickly, generate reports, and pretty soon I am going to be integrating the Brultech Power monitoring.
I am going to have trend charts for power, temperature, and what ever else you guys inspire me to do!
It's time to have the users in charge of the design, I am not sure if the designers of Vera are really in touch with the Users needs. I do hope they surprise me.....we will see!
We will always need their UI for setup....I don't plan on getting into that area.
Enough rambling!
Tim
Title: Re: Code for a New Vera UI
Post by: TimAlls on May 30, 2011, 09:22:31 pm
This is the combined effort all in one program. I need someone with Dimmers and Switches to test the new UI Control Panel. Screenshot Below.....
This application has the ability to read your system, report devices, report scenes, export reports, watch variables, generate Luup Code, and now control devices similar to SQRemote but on a much larger scale. The code generator will be expanded once I get more feedback. Addition Control Point tab will be coming soon. Once someone test the switches ( I don't have any on my system) then I will add the ability to save your configuration.
Take a look....
Regards
Tim Alls
AllSeas Yachts

DownLoad: http://www.box.net/shared/zss0613rt3 (http://www.box.net/shared/zss0613rt3)
Control Report & Code 1.002

Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on May 30, 2011, 09:43:12 pm
Havent tried them all, but my closet switch won't fire after clicking below the switch chosen in the control tab. the scene that fires it did work, though.

edit: My dimmer works properly.

edit: none of my switches are working.

edit: scenes work well.
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on May 30, 2011, 09:48:53 pm
Havent tried them all, but my closet switch won't fire after clicking below the switch chosen in the control tab. the scene that fires it did work, though.

edit: My dimmer works properly.

edit: none of my switches are working.
I think I found the bug on the switches....I will update in about and hour....
Maybe I should just buy some switches.....sure would be easier to debug!
Thanks
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on May 30, 2011, 09:50:01 pm
Probably!
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on May 30, 2011, 10:21:29 pm
Ok.....one more time on the switches!

Latest Update and fix:  http://www.box.net/shared/puxjrb11oy (http://www.box.net/shared/puxjrb11oy)

I hope that does it!

Regards Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on May 30, 2011, 10:31:06 pm
Sorry to say, nope. If you do get them to work, I might suggest that the button under the description show the current state of the switch- ie either red or green. It begins with a brown switch which doesn't tell you whether the switch is on or off.

Also, your QUIT button doesn't work anymore.
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on May 30, 2011, 10:38:20 pm
Sorry to say, nope. If you do get them to work, I might suggest that the button under the description show the current state of the switch- ie either red or green. It begins with a brown switch which doesn't tell you whether the switch is on or off.

Also, your QUIT button doesn't work anymore.
My HTTP request must be incorrect.....it take 25 second to timeout. Switch to a different tab and try the quit button one more time.
I will try one more time......more to come!
Let me know if anything else is broken.....
Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on May 30, 2011, 11:02:31 pm
The different tab "quit" worked.

Is a scene supposed to show a "1" if it is active (it's showing "0")? For instance, I have a "night on" scene which turns on a bunch of lights before sundown. Obviously the scene doesn't run continuously as it fires once and then waits until the following day to fire again. Just wasn't sure what it was supposed to tell me. One the other hand, I have a "vacation away" scene that shows "1", but the timer is unchecked and inactive.

Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on May 30, 2011, 11:08:09 pm
The different tab "quit" worked.

Is a scene supposed to show a "1" if it is active (it's showing "0")? For instance, I have a "night on" scene which turns on a bunch of lights before sundown. Obviously the scene doesn't run continuously as it fires once and then waits until the following day to fire again. Just wasn't sure what it was supposed to tell me. One the other hand, I have a "vacation away" scene that shows "1", but the timer is unchecked and inactive.
I am unsure....I believe that a scene is active "1" until anything it controls changes. Then it is considered inactive "0"....lets let some experts chip in....anyone reading this that knows???
I will have one more try at the switches coming in 30 minutes or so.....still reading!
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on May 30, 2011, 11:17:34 pm
One last thing.....can you make sure that all the drop down boxes have valid names showing for dimmers and switches and try one more time?
The color will will change to green and red when your done with selections.
Thanks
Tim

EDIT.......I will pick up a switch tomorrow and debug that item!
More to come.....
Thanks for your help
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on May 30, 2011, 11:30:11 pm
The drop down boxes have the correct names, but the colors are either brown or incorrect. Right now my MBR Patio lights are on, but the color is showing brown. And My porch lights are on and it's showing red. Changing switches doesn't change the previous color.

We're still in 1.003, correct?
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on May 30, 2011, 11:36:45 pm
Okay, weird. My closet switch is now working, but others dont.

Tim- If I go to the devices tab and click on a switch there, and then go back to the control tab, the switch will begin to work.

edit: change the above statement to: sometimes, but not always!
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on May 31, 2011, 01:14:22 am
Okay, weird. My closet switch is now working, but others dont.

Tim- If I go to the devices tab and click on a switch there, and then go back to the control tab, the switch will begin to work.

edit: change the above statement to: sometimes, but not always!
Thanks for giving it a try....I better bite the bullet and pick up some more ZWave goodies including a switch. It won't take long once I have one on my system.
I need to work on the configuration portion as well. Once I work this bug out I think it will be a nice starting place for controlling the Vera on a touchscreen. I will rework the coloring and look at better switch display. I am going to pick up a thermostat and lock as well.
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on May 31, 2011, 02:17:52 am
Ill try it tonight with my Duewi switch and report you the results.

Can the screen also be controlled with mouse?
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on May 31, 2011, 02:37:57 am
Ill try it tonight with my Duewi switch and report you the results.

Can the screen also be controlled with mouse?
I installed Virtual Switches and found the bug....
I still need to take care of the setup....I will do that in the morning and post a fix.
Yes mouse control or touchscreen both work.

Here is my quick fix but more to come.....do you like these switches better?
http://www.box.net/shared/k5fv4mqreb (http://www.box.net/shared/k5fv4mqreb)

Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on May 31, 2011, 11:20:20 pm
Yes! Much better, and, they work! Scenes also work well.

Minor point #1- when the screen comes up, it is not evident whether the switch is currently on, or off. Obviously, after pushing the switch you would know-but for some that might be an issue.

Minor point #2 related to #1- the dimmers don't show the current state either until you go out and then back into that tab.

Nice!

edit: the temperature and light sensors under the temp/light/humidity tab don't show the room description they are associated with-only the room number. would be more informative with the description.
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 01, 2011, 12:51:39 am
@ballroller and Henk,
I changed the switch format.....now you hit the button and it toggles the switch value and lights a smaller LED. The LED is fed by MIOS so a one second delay for reporting is normal. Works good with virtual switches can you try it with some real ones?!
MIOS reports room numbers but I agree....substitute a real name would be easy to do.
Dimmer updates are next.....getting closer!
Regards
Tim

Latest Update..http://www.box.net/shared/6p3c02r9oy (http://www.box.net/shared/6p3c02r9oy)
1.005
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on June 01, 2011, 01:22:49 am
I am out of the loop for a bit. Tried changing my wireless security from WEP to WPA/WPA2, and lost complete connection with Vera.

I will check out your new version as soon as I am able to.
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on June 01, 2011, 12:50:00 pm
Suggestion to move this thread to Vera Luup & Development.

Then, version 1.005 remarks, with all selectors on "0" i still see 1 dimmer array (#9).
can provide screenshot if needed

use of on/off leds works for a much better user experience

--edit--

1.No dimmers detected, good! (i dont have any)
2. 2 switches detected, good (1 real, one virtual)
3. quit bug fixed, good
4. user settings not stored after shutdown/restart, not good
   (should be stored in  same file as IP, btw WHERE is that file)
5. Active LED on active scenes are accurate, good
6. Still devices detected as scenes, not good.
  (detected as scene are, IP cam, virtual switch, 2 room 0 notifications, temperature from weather plugin)
  Strangely not detected from weatherplugin is: high/low temp and humidity sensors
7. Manually running the Uptime and LUA reload log (luupcoded scene) does not trigger the active LED.

Will check for more issues

Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 01, 2011, 09:37:56 pm
Here is the latest: 1.006   http://www.box.net/shared/ocpdq7r2px (http://www.box.net/shared/ocpdq7r2px)
This takes care of the dimmer update issue. I will have the ability to save room configurations done by morning....
More to come!
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 01, 2011, 09:46:29 pm
Henk,
The scene drop down menu....I used your file and I cant find anything wrong other than a Room 0 scene coming through.....can you give me more details?
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on June 02, 2011, 12:29:48 am
Okay, I'm sort of back...

I really like what this is looking like. I like the "LED" lights a lot. Are you going to show the locks and have the ability to control them as well? Thermostats?
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on June 02, 2011, 03:28:48 am
Henk,
The scene drop down menu....I used your file and I cant find anything wrong other than a Room 0 scene coming through.....can you give me more details?
Tim

I could send you a new json and some screenshots?
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 02, 2011, 10:57:16 am


I could send you a new json and some screenshots?
[/quote]
Thanks Henk,
I found the bug.....came from a new plugin you added.
I will have room creation and save setting working next!
more to come.
Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on June 02, 2011, 11:47:29 am


I could send you a new json and some screenshots?
Quote
Thanks Henk,
I found the bug.....came from a new plugin you added.
I will have room creation and save setting working next!
more to come.
Regards
Tim.

Was it the FCM plugin Ap15e created? If so, could you provide details so Ap15e could improve his code?
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 02, 2011, 03:11:23 pm


I could send you a new json and some screenshots?
Quote
Thanks Henk,
I found the bug.....came from a new plugin you added.
I will have room creation and save setting working next!
more to come.
Regards
Tim.

Was it the FCM plugin Ap15e created? If so, could you provide details so Ap15e could improve his code?
Yes, that is the plugin.
It's my bug.....nothing to do with AP15e
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Ap15e on June 02, 2011, 03:21:10 pm
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What can be done to keep the sdata from passing so much stuff?

Remove the corresponding <shortCode>...</shortCode> lines from S_....xml.
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on June 02, 2011, 03:34:01 pm
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What can be done to keep the sdata from passing so much stuff?

Remove the corresponding <shortCode>...</shortCode> lines from S_....xml.

general remark; why should someone that's not or not very well aquinted with coding remove lines from an XML that the programmer supposedly put there for a reason
and why are the lines there if the plugin could do without. Especially if the load on the executing hardware or remotes would be less without it?

Now this could sound like a silly Q, but I don't understand....

I don't think anyone should have to tweak readily available code created by someone to improve it's functionality or general working...
Anyone that has similar feelings?
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Ap15e on June 02, 2011, 04:21:20 pm
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I don't think anyone should have to tweak readily available code created by someone to improve it's functionality or general working...

Removing the <shortCode>s doesn't improve the functionality/general working, it just cripples the plugin (by removing the variables from sdata as requested by TimAlls) ...
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on June 02, 2011, 04:35:34 pm
Quote
I don't think anyone should have to tweak readily available code created by someone to improve it's functionality or general working...

Removing the <shortCode>s doesn't improve the functionality/general working, it just cripples the plugin (by removing the variables from sdata as requested by TimAlls) ...

????? then whats the use of doing so (except to show its possible?)
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 02, 2011, 06:13:52 pm
Why cripple? Much easier to delete! That, however, is not what I was hoping for....
In a MCV device, there are lots of variables that do not come through on the Sdata command. The "s" is for short....right?(Actually it is Summary Data) How do they keep the bulk of there variables available to the "userdata" command and then make the variables needed for Control Points .....Level, ID, Room, etc...... available for the "Sdata" command?
It must be possible cause they are doing it!
Regards
Tim

EDIT****************
I checked......not possible
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 03, 2011, 01:53:27 am
Henk
Here is the latest:
Fixed bug on scene list
Added six room for controls....choice of dimmers, switches and scene buttons
Rooms can be saved after setting them up the way you want.

Take a look.
http://www.box.net/shared/e3a3ku7qdo (http://www.box.net/shared/e3a3ku7qdo)

Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on June 03, 2011, 11:20:35 am
Tim,

Can you save the devices and scenes on the control tab also? That would make things much simpler when you go back into it.
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 03, 2011, 11:33:18 am
Tim,

Can you save the devices and scenes on the control tab also? That would make things much simpler when you go back into it.

Yes, I need to make it simpler....right now you setup the room and goto setting and hit save. It also auto saves upon exit so that next time it runs it remembers the room layout.

Questions:
Can you test thermostats for me on my next release?
Do you think that the room layouts are adequate? Is the sceen size good or should I be coding for larger screens and possibly adding sensors to the rooms?
Currently, security and sensors will be in another tab.
If I was a pro like the guys from Square Connect I would do a universal layout program but I can't figure out where to start on that one!

Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on June 03, 2011, 01:09:55 pm
Tim,

Can you save the devices and scenes on the control tab also? That would make things much simpler when you go back into it.

Im having the same issue. Working with @Timalls to provide feedback so he can troubleshoot
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 03, 2011, 01:57:51 pm
Tim,

Can you save the devices and scenes on the control tab also? That would make things much simpler when you go back into it.

Im having the same issue. Working with @Timalls to provide feedback so he can troubleshoot

I found the bug in the "saving setting" and I changed the default path to the same directory as the EXE file.
Rooms default to one of each , with  names Room 1, Room 2 etc.
Added setup dialogue so you know what to do.
Added proposed thermostat but I need programing info from someone with a thermostat!
I will post this fix at 12:45 Pacific time today!
More to come
Thanks again.
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on June 03, 2011, 02:02:56 pm
My Json file should have 3 thermostats in it.
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 03, 2011, 03:05:02 pm
My Json file should have 3 thermostats in it.
I can read them no problem
I can change the cool setpoint, heatsetpoint, but Mode? is it heat and cold? is there an on/ off command.
I will check the Wiki as well....it might all be there.
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on June 03, 2011, 03:11:12 pm
There is heat, cool, and auto. Fan auto and fan on. Heat temp and cool temp. ESM mode. Filter replacement warning (this one would be sweet to have a notification for).

I will pull more from the manual when I get home tonight.
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 03, 2011, 03:54:31 pm
Here is the 1.008:
http://www.box.net/shared/43pnul40bl (http://www.box.net/shared/43pnul40bl)
Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on June 03, 2011, 04:00:13 pm
Here is the 1.008:
http://www.box.net/shared/43pnul40bl (http://www.box.net/shared/43pnul40bl)
Regards
Tim

Want the good news or the bad news?
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on June 03, 2011, 04:04:53 pm
Oh, the suspense.... :D
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on June 03, 2011, 04:14:07 pm
Update on shareware version 1.008 of VCRC

1. settings save for setup tab (Vera IP, Room naming) WORKS
2. controltab settings NOT saved.
3. controltab room1 NOT 1 of each device (8 dimmers, 4 switched, 4 scenes) room 2 and up yes!
4. ping sensor (security device) now correctly shown in device tab security/locks
5. thermostat mock up visible
6. some devices not categorized (like SND, FCM) sounds like we need an extra category
    could be Notification devices? or Luup devices?

Must/should/would haves:
1. A way to sort devices (by ID, by type, by name)
2. reports still fire the application that is linked... probably a todo to create files here?

Small syntax issues in the Room guide on the right:
1. line 1, "Save" should be "Save Settings" to point to the correct button
   (this should be done consistently in the text frame)
2. line 4 assosiated should be associated?
3. line 8 feed should be fed?
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 03, 2011, 04:44:05 pm
Wow....it was only posted 15 minutes ago....Henk you are fast!

Quote
Must/should/would haves:
1. A way to sort devices (by ID, by type, by name)
2. reports still fire the application that is linked... probably a todo to create files here?

Small syntax issues in the Room guide on the right:
1. line 1, "Save" should be "Save Settings" to point to the correct button
   (this should be done consistently in the text frame)
2. line 4 assosiated should be associated?
3. line 8 feed should be fed?

I only had a few minutes for coding today and my machine at work doesn't spell check!
Easy fixes. Those of you who have and operate thermostats please look at the mock up and tell me if it makes sense. Do I need more buttons for any missing commands?

The code is easy.....I just had to do my homework.

Thermostats will be here tonight.....cameras, that is a different story!
Security....tomorrow maybe.

Getting there.

Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on June 03, 2011, 04:52:00 pm
Sits back and relaxes.... Time to charge for the next release then :D
The sooner you publish, the faster we can check it  ;D
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 03, 2011, 05:10:37 pm
I want your job!

A thought......if you have a list of Sort Cuts to Wiki or important threads I can easily add a help page that will auto direct you to those links....
What do you think?
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on June 03, 2011, 05:14:51 pm
I want your job!

A thought......if you have a list of Sort Cuts to Wiki or important threads I can easily add a help page that will auto direct you to those links....
What do you think?

Being in a different timezone has its advantages....
You work, i sleep, i work, you sleep.... and exactly in the overlap (your lunch?) you publish builds and i test

How is this?
http://wiki.micasaverde.com/index.php/Main_Page
http://wiki.micasaverde.com/index.php/FAQ
http://wiki.micasaverde.com/index.php/Troubleshooting
http://wiki.micasaverde.com/index.php/Category:How_To
http://wiki.micasaverde.com/index.php/Category:Troubleshooting
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http://code.mios.com/account
http://wiki.micasaverde.com/index.php/Luup_plugins_and_Luup_code
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For UI2/3: http://docs.mios.com/doc.php?language=1&manual=1&platform=0&page=getting_started
For UI4   : http://docs.mios.com/doc.php?language=1&manual=1&platform=0&page=getting_started

Besides... believe me, you dont want my daytime job.....
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 03, 2011, 07:15:27 pm
Thanks Henk,
I think for now I will link only to Wiki (a suggestion by Guessed) so that the links stay in tact.

As for thermostats.....interesting things are popping up like this:http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=1881.0 (http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=1881.0)
I was planning on an " up one degree and down one degree in the code" ....I didn't realize the current UI made it so difficult!

How about a numeric popup page to make the settings?
@Ballroller or other thermostat users....what is your wish list here?
The only thing I can't do easily is the Apple Roll Dial....sorry

Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 03, 2011, 08:16:52 pm
There is heat, cool, and auto. Fan auto and fan on. Heat temp and cool temp. ESM mode. Filter replacement warning (this one would be sweet to have a notification for).

I will pull more from the manual when I get home tonight.
Can you pull up your advanced tab on the thermostat and give me a list of variables...then I will know what is possible!
Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on June 03, 2011, 11:08:14 pm
ck your email...
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on June 03, 2011, 11:42:49 pm
Apple Roll Dial? Is that like an apple turnover?  :D Or Roll Tide?

Anyway, I would like to see the basics like temp changes, mode changes, fan status changes, all with built in LED's or status boxes. Filter change adjustment re: # of days, and possibility for notification when it triggers. Would be nice to have a notification for something going out of range ie temp is set for cool 70 and it's reading 75 meaning somethings broken or a door's been left open. I'll bet that would be really popular with landlords. Also, there is a way to lock out a user if they don't know the "secret" method of getting into the panel- it would be great to be able to figure out how to shut off the interface completely and control it remotely. I don't thinks that's a function of what you're doing, but I can dream can't I ?!!


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I was planning on an " up one degree and down one degree in the code" ....I didn't realize the current UI made it so difficult!

How about a numeric popup page to make the settings?
@Ballroller or other thermostat users....what is your wish list here?
The only thing I can't do easily is the Apple Roll Dial....sorry

Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 04, 2011, 01:04:18 pm
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Apple Roll Dial? Is that like an apple turnover?   Or Roll Tide?

Anyway, I would like to see the basics like temp changes, mode changes, fan status changes, all with built in LED's or status boxes. Filter change adjustment re: # of days, and possibility for notification when it triggers. Would be nice to have a notification for something going out of range ie temp is set for cool 70 and it's reading 75 meaning somethings broken or a door's been left open. I'll bet that would be really popular with landlords. Also, there is a way to lock out a user if they don't know the "secret" method of getting into the panel- it would be great to be able to figure out how to shut off the interface completely and control it remotely. I don't thinks that's a function of what you're doing, but I can dream can't I ?!!
Ha, Apple has the coolest controls.....it is on my IPad....don't know what to call it.
Good news....most of what you want can be done. Bad news, I don't see filter info on the list of variables.
However, check and see if the variable "ModeState" changes when your HVAC blower is on or off.
If it does the filter notification can be added using paste in code in a new scene we can call Filter Change or whatever.

Let me know,
Thanks
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on June 04, 2011, 01:08:33 pm
No new build today? i was enjoying the anticipation....
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on June 04, 2011, 01:36:18 pm
ModeState does not change with just the fan going from auto to on. It does change when cooling is called for, from idle to cooling.

The first ModeStatus on the other hand, changes from Auto to ContinuousOn when the fan is changed.


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Apple Roll Dial? Is that like an apple turnover?   Or Roll Tide?

Anyway, I would like to see the basics like temp changes, mode changes, fan status changes, all with built in LED's or status boxes. Filter change adjustment re: # of days, and possibility for notification when it triggers. Would be nice to have a notification for something going out of range ie temp is set for cool 70 and it's reading 75 meaning somethings broken or a door's been left open. I'll bet that would be really popular with landlords. Also, there is a way to lock out a user if they don't know the "secret" method of getting into the panel- it would be great to be able to figure out how to shut off the interface completely and control it remotely. I don't thinks that's a function of what you're doing, but I can dream can't I ?!!
Ha, Apple has the coolest controls.....it is on my IPad....don't know what to call it.
Good news....most of what you want can be done. Bad news, I don't see filter info on the list of variables.
However, check and see if the variable "ModeState" changes when your HVAC blower is on or off.
If it does the filter notification can be added using paste in code in a new scene we can call Filter Change or whatever.

Let me know,
Thanks
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 04, 2011, 03:02:36 pm
No new build today? i was enjoying the anticipation....
It's coming.....just back from Fry's Electronics. Picked up a thermostat.....figure I would save lot's of time!
I am setting it up now so I can start code testing.
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ModeState does not change with just the fan going from auto to on. It does change when cooling is called for, from idle to cooling.
The first ModeStatus on the other hand, changes from Auto to ContinuousOn when the fan is changed.
Thanks....I will have this together in a while....
More to come.
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 04, 2011, 10:27:21 pm
Henk,
I haven't forgotten you.....I had a long "Honey Do" list today.
The next release is all about thermostats....I don't know if you will have any fun with it unless you go buy one!

Good things coming....take a look.
I have the displays working for multiple thermostats and I have all the commands working.
I have added a 24 hour trend chart for the Temp, CoolSetPt, and HeatSetPt. I am going to run it over night before posting....
Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on June 05, 2011, 02:15:31 am
Henk,
I haven't forgotten you.....I had a long "Honey Do" list today.
The next release is all about thermostats....I don't know if you will have any fun with it unless you go buy one!
Regards
Tim

Dont worry, ill live... a hartmann or danfoss is on my wishlist. Will give you headaches probably after i installed that in the future... bugging you with all sorts of questions and requests  ;D

Keep it up Tim, i know ppl are watching your progress with growing enthousiasm (i am)....
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: MNB on June 05, 2011, 12:04:45 pm
@TimAlls, Been out of pocket for a while however loaded latest version .1008 I still have the original problem with this app, for some reason the app displays lettered devices A-L, all of my M-Z lettered devices e.g. patio camera, side door ect.. what's going on? I not clear as to the setup tab, room name 1 through 6 (I have over 10 rooms identified and confirmed in via the room tab report. I like your code example, it took a second or two to figure out that there were more than one step (might add a 1-X indicator). Suggest that you freeze the older threads as this is you active thread,  Mike
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 05, 2011, 12:17:46 pm
@Michael_N_Blackwell,
Good to see you back. When I ran your JSON file the devices your M-Z device were there....just have to scroll down to see them as you have lots of stuff! Check the drop down boxes in the Variable Watch and see if they are all there. Have you added any plugins since your last JSON file? I will review it one more time and see if I missed something.
The rooms on the Control tab are not related to the rooms in Vera. I have them setup to handle any dimmers, switches, or scenes that you want in the room. ( maybe I will not use the word "Room" because of the confusion you have pointed out! Lets call them Control Pads)
For Example: You can give the first Control Pad a name Downstairs, after that you can assign devices from the outside, living room, kitchen, and hallway. You can attach any scene you want as well. This format will allow more universal control than just being able to control a single room. If a single room is desired, however, one can set that up as well!
This is just a starting place.....as I get more feedback I will know how to develop it to be a real universal application.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: MNB on June 05, 2011, 08:48:47 pm
@TimAlls, thanxs, I see your screen shot, but my screen shot stops at "L". Yes I've added devices and plug-in's since last time. Do you need another JSON?

I agree, change the rooms to Control Pads more intuitive. Mike
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on June 05, 2011, 09:53:30 pm
Tim,

Is there any way to show on the scenes tab some kind of reference as to what the scene is actually doing? ie can it show for instance 10 minutes before sundown turn on lights a, b, c and turn up the heat 5 degrees.....
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 06, 2011, 01:06:27 am
Tim,

Is there any way to show on the scenes tab some kind of reference as to what the scene is actually doing? ie can it show for instance 10 minutes before sundown turn on lights a, b, c and turn up the heat 5 degrees.....
I am not sure I follow you....are you referring to the button labels that activate the scenes?

Michael_N_Blackwell,
This version should take care of it. I underestimated the return file size due to a couple of Plug Ins you added.

Here is the version 1.009
Added multiple thermostat control
Added 24 hour snapshot graphing tool.....
    It will record 24 hours of device data and let you trend chart as many as 8 stacked devices on one chart.
Give it a try...the charting will be good for temperatures as well as recording those middle of the night things that are supposed to happen....EG turn off the lights after 1:00am etc
http://www.box.net/shared/un0lmgvn7p (http://www.box.net/shared/un0lmgvn7p)
The charting tool is brand new and will require more instruction most likely. I will be changing it tonight to separate digital devices out and display them on a digital waveform chart....easier to read. You can play with it in the mean time.....the sample rate is defaulting to 2 seconds right now.....I would run it at 60 second updates unless you are trying to capture security events.




Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on June 06, 2011, 03:32:25 pm
Tim,

Looks like you broke something in 1.009....
dropdown menus for "control pads" (i like the name) are empty (dimmers/switches&scenes).
I cannot select any of my devices

While fixing that, could you add a knob on the thermostat page so i can select 0-8 like with dimmers, switches and scenes?

--edit--
None of my devices, scenes or switches are detected.... and user_data2 is empty

--edit2--
cause: ip not correctly read from settings file....
after setting the correct IP i was back up and running, guess you provided a non-empty settings.txt with the download?

--edit3--
When clicking the change button an thermostat1 the first time i got a thermo.vi popup.
Is that ment to be? after that i didnt get it back, tested all buttons (without having a stat installed, its called a monkeyproof regression test...)
*edit: thats reproducable in fact! problem is: clicking the "done" button will allow to get the popup again for any thermostat. Clicking the right top X (close) will permanently shut the pop up....

Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 06, 2011, 06:39:36 pm
@Henk,
I knew sooner or later I would forget to empty the IP text file! I was going cross eyed last night and just wanted to post and goto bed.....oh well. At least you figured it out.
Yes to the knob for the number of thermostats....
I will look at the settings for the popup and remove the ability to close it....only by choosing "Done" on next release.

The new trend charts have been moved under the Report Tab....take a look. It needs work but it will give you an idea of what I want to do.

Take a look at the upcoming version feature: (snapshot below)
I wanted to be able to view snapshots of whats been going on with everything and it works better in a digital format.....just off or on. It even converts dimmers to off or on signals so you can see when things happen.
More to come.
Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on June 07, 2011, 12:49:01 am
No.

In your Scenes tab, it shows a list of scenes available, but not what they do. Is there a way to depict what the scene actually calls for?

Tim,

Is there any way to show on the scenes tab some kind of reference as to what the scene is actually doing? ie can it show for instance 10 minutes before sundown turn on lights a, b, c and turn up the heat 5 degrees.....
I am not sure I follow you....are you referring to the button labels that activate the scenes?

...............


Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on June 07, 2011, 01:28:58 am
@ballroller

How about giving a scene a logical name?

something like: lights ON, shades DOWN, alarm ON, door LOCKED?

That would also make your life easier from within the UI and the names would simply port to Tim's application.
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on June 07, 2011, 09:21:48 am
I've already done that. I was just suggesting that having all of the information in front of you would make it much easier for the user to see what is actually happening with his/her scene production. I would imagine presenting that information in a logical, readable format would be very challenging, but Tim asked for our wish list...... ;)
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: MNB on June 07, 2011, 12:30:10 pm
It would be nice to be able to see the scene operating, in particular if one has set a timer to see that value and when it executed to see it count down useful when setting up motion detector and scenes with duration timers.

@TimAlls, .1009 allowed me to see my remaining devices (thanks), I also deleted my DAD since I wasn't using it for anything other than monitoring earthquakes... ;D
Observations;

1.  A lot of the tabs are informational data which is good but it would be nice if one could change value on the fly obviously within reason.

2.  The graph capability needs work, I would select a device but did not see anything being graphed like when I turned it on or dimmed a device.

3.  The layout needs thought re useability;

4.  Would be nice to see a heartbeat indicating that app and VERA are communicating and that VERA is alive along with internet connectivity.

5.  Each tab needs a tutorial as to purpose and how to use suggestion(s)

6. With the capability to change aspects the ability to update VERA to reflect. Is it possible to change rooms titles and sequence and then update?

7.  The LUA example tab, it would be nice to have a list of functions to chose from and then be presented with the specific tabs. Looking at the current tab it looks like future examples will be contained in subsequent tabs?


v/r

Mike
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 07, 2011, 02:49:37 pm
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I've already done that. I was just suggesting that having all of the information in front of you would make it much easier for the user to see what is actually happening with his/her scene production. I would imagine presenting that information in a logical, readable format would be very challenging, but Tim asked for our wish list......
I am thinking on that one.....it will require the user to fill in the information....the system won't give me that info.....its possible

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1.  A lot of the tabs are informational data which is good but it would be nice if one could change value on the fly obviously within reason.
Changing variables will be coming. As for setup and maintaining Vera that will always be done with the Vera UI.....beyond my capabilities....lets see how the next UI looks from MCV!

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2.  The graph capability needs work, I would select a device but did not see anything being graphed like when I turned it on or dimmed a device.
The update button defaulted to off at the bottom left....my mistake...wait until you see what is coming!...the new digital graghs are going to make you drool! This is going to be a great tool for automated scenes with timers and also rental properties that the owner wants to know what is going on!....

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3.  The layout needs thought re useability;
Lets wait until all the features are in place then we can rearrange the tabs to make sense.

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4.  Would be nice to see a heartbeat indicating that app and VERA are communicating and that VERA is alive along with internet connectivity.
I like that....let me see what I can do.

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5.  Each tab needs a tutorial as to purpose and how to use suggestion(s)
Agreed....too busy programming right now but it is coming.

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Is it possible to change rooms titles and sequence and then update?
Yes...I will add it in.

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7.  The LUA example tab, it would be nice to have a list of functions to chose from and then be presented with the specific tabs. Looking at the current tab it looks like future examples will be contained in subsequent tabs?
I have been holding on the code generator....I wanted to know from the Guroos if my methods are a good way to go.....creating variable to watch....etc.....no comments from anyone....
I am looking into other methods as well....eg a new pluginin, but I am in need of more education!

More to come....thanks for the great feedback!

How does the thermostat function work for you?

Regards
Tim Alls
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: MNB on June 07, 2011, 03:09:50 pm
@TimAlls, thanxs for the comeback... understand your responses, as to the Thermostat, I like.. need to change the switch icon, looks like a rocker switch but acts like a radio button to allow one to update values. Also can I change thermostat.jpg to my 3-Gig thermostat faceplate? ::) Mike
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on June 07, 2011, 10:02:12 pm
Tim,

Just curious (coming from the uninformed in me!), why won't the system show you the information contained in a scene? Where is that data kept?
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 07, 2011, 11:42:40 pm
Tim,

Just curious (coming from the uninformed in me!), why won't the system show you the information contained in a scene? Where is that data kept?
The information is all in the UserData output but I don't know how one could translate it into a simple statement like you asked for......EG all the Luup code is there but no way to extract a descriptive sentence......

Here is the latest with all the bugs reported so far fixed except for naming control pads within the pad.
I have the new flashing read light ....heartbeat feauture with error detection
Variable number of Thermostats
New Analog trend charts for all devices....record up to 5,000 points or events
New Digital trend chart for all devices.....translate dimmers into on off as well
   both charts have drop down device selection with stacked and overlay modes
   Time stamps all 5,000 points
And a few more fixes.

Regards
Tim

Version 1.011 download...
http://www.box.net/shared/eymnknxx10
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: MNB on June 08, 2011, 04:12:20 pm
I agree with @ballroller, would love to have the capability of viewing all of my scene code. 1stly because being able to archive/retrieve scene(s) data if something catastrophic would ever happen (Murphy s law), the other is that I would like to be able to cut/paste working code from one scene to another kind of like having a library of LUA code. Today I cut/past examples in a word document with some leading information.

Will try the latest version later today if possible. Mike
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 08, 2011, 04:52:29 pm
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I agree with @ballroller, would love to have the capability of viewing all of my scene code. 1stly because being able to archive/retrieve scene(s) data if something catastrophic would ever happen (Murphy s law), the other is that I would like to be able to cut/paste working code from one scene to another kind of like having a library of LUA code. Today I cut/past examples in a word document with some leading information.
What your asking for is possible. I can extract the code, I just can't derive its purpose...the user would have to do that.
Suggestion though......if some variables were added to Vera one could keep those unique description stored there so they could be parsed.....also try adding the description at the beginning of the code.....that could be extracted as well.

Warning.....scaling bug in 1.011....don't run in maximized mode....I fixed it but can't post until later tonight.
My observations on the new trend charts:
I need the settings to be saved on the charts as well....I think everything should be saved on exit.
I need lines between the stacked charts and to delete the Y Scale when stacked

Let me know what else you find.
I am running it on the touchscreen computer today and I see it need tweaking to make it work properly...EG the dimmer popup is annoying

Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: MNB on June 08, 2011, 08:40:13 pm
@TimAlls, something is wrong with the digital report function, all I can see is your Salon devices, even when I try to select drop down.

Observations:
- What is the first column of the raw data tab
- Variable Watch tab, XML return needs a slider bar. Why in the variable window is column 6 labeled as password?
- Controls tab, Dimmer, the up/down switch (small) doesn't change values also the slide bar when you attempt to drag it, it moves but snaps back to previous value, only when the pop-up is selected you can can value, not very intuitive, if it switch and slider is to mimic the values then don't allow user interaction, only on the pop-up
- Device tabs, would be nice to see device status and battery status, its in the raw data

like the heatbeat indicator...
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 08, 2011, 10:23:12 pm
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something is wrong with the digital report function, all I can see is your Salon devices, even when I try to select drop down.
I found the bug on the digital drop down....fixed
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What is the first column of the raw data tab
It is the Category Number....placed by me so I can sort by Category
How a bout I hide that column since it is a duplicate?
 
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Variable Watch tab, XML return needs a slider bar. Why in the variable window is column 6 labeled as password?
Scroll bar added....password...never scrolled over there! Deleted.
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Controls tab, Dimmer
I have to rework the dimmers....not very friendly....tried them on the touchscreen, worked lousy!
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Device tabs, would be nice to see device status and battery status, its in the raw data
If it's in the raw data I will see what I can do!
Were you able to try the Analog Trend Chart...I don't think it had any bugs...?

I fixed the scaling problem and I am fixing the SAVE configuration problem next.
I want to bug free it before adding any more features.....shouldn't take long

Here is version 1.012
I still have to fix the Save Configuration issue....its just being a [profanity redacted]!
http://www.box.net/shared/zo3piqz2yd
Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 11, 2011, 01:04:24 pm
This is update version 1.015
http://www.box.net/shared/49q8jk6bz25pb3zqdm19 (http://www.box.net/shared/49q8jk6bz25pb3zqdm19)

I am coming down home stretch.....
The Save Configuration is now working
Added help dialogue for Digital and Analog Charting
Complete overhaul on the dimmers to make them touchscreen friendly....no popups, just slide!
Easy "Control Pad" setup....Names, Dimmers, Switches, and Scenes all setup and saved in same Tab
Screen Resolution stretching.....allows the window to be stretched in higher resolution

Introduced the Security Readout panel....for me it is the DSC window and door zones.

Bugs? let me know ....I think we are close.

The code generator is officially out of this version.....
I think it is too complex to have it here....it will be a standalone application when this one is finished and documented

By the way, I am using this program as a guide and developing a Universal Engine Monitor.
Beta testers will have to have an electronic diesel engine and a J1939  ModBus adapter....It will have all the features used in the Boeing 747 Engine Instrumentation Display!

Regards
Tim Alls
AllSeas Yachts
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on June 11, 2011, 01:36:05 pm
It's looking good. One more request- can you allow us to click on the top of a column to re-order the data in that spreadsheet? I would like to order by node number or ID number to help find the switches easier. For those of us with a lot of switches, this would be huge.
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 11, 2011, 01:46:57 pm
It's looking good. One more request- can you allow us to click on the top of a column to re-order the data in that spreadsheet? I would like to order by node number or ID number to help find the switches easier. For those of us with a lot of switches, this would be huge.
I will take a look.....I have the code for it, just need to look at how to implement.
I think you will find the charting tools helpful if you are using timers and special luup code.
Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on June 12, 2011, 11:36:12 am
@Tim

Feedback on version 1.0015

General remark, most functionality bigs seem to be solved.
There are some inconsistencies on viewing tabs and control tabs
Also some views are "out of sync/range"

Il try to do a categorized overview below:

----Charts---
Digital charts:
- settings are not saved
- Chart help is empty field

Analog charts
- settings are not saved
- various buttons and associated borders are not aligned
- scroll and graph buttons write through chart descriptions

----Controls----
- Setup control tab text runs out of assigned field size
- no setup on/off option for thermostats (compare dim/switch tab)
- Security sensor shows green OK button (whats the function, my sensor has setting bypassed atm)
- clicking the same button changes nothing
- when scenes are added/removed, saved settings do not persist

----Devices----
- raw data tab has no header row describing the colums value



Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 12, 2011, 11:57:14 am
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----Charts---
Digital charts:
- settings are not saved
- Chart help is empty field
Saving Chart defaults will be next....
I find them a very useful tool, what do you think?
Chart Help......wooops...I will fix it!
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Analog charts
- settings are not saved
- various buttons and associated borders are not aligned
- scroll and graph buttons write through chart descriptions
I think I am having font and scaling issues....can you capture the screen and send it to me?
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----Controls----
- Setup control tab text runs out of assigned field size
- no setup on/off option for thermostats (compare dim/switch tab)
- Security sensor shows green OK button (whats the function, my sensor has setting bypassed atm)
- clicking the same button changes nothing
- when scenes are added/removed, saved settings do not persist
Screen shot?
Thermostat setup coming on next update.
Security, I will allow it to be turned off on next release. It is a great visual for those of us monitoring doors and window, it has nothing to do with arm, disarm, bypass. It just reports the current status, Open or Closed. From a security standpoint this is wonderful to have at a glance. When you are getting ready to leave home you know instantly to close the window upstairs....or whatever. It also records the information....

EG I wish I had this when my kids were teens.....I would have know they were slipping in and out through the window late at night!
I will check on the scenes....

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----Devices----
- raw data tab has no header row describing the colums value
I call it raw data because it is not formatted....it's just the way Vera reports it. As such Vera mixes up all the columns just for the fun of it, so I can't add Headings. It is a good tool to pick out information not seen in the organized table.

For those of you with dimmers give me feedback.....I just reworked them for my touchscreen. That part of the system has to make sense to the wife and kids!

Thanks Henk,
Tim




Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on June 12, 2011, 12:21:23 pm
@Tim,

Screenshots sent.

By the way i do have some remarks on your last post...

1. charts usefull YES (ill have toi see what happens after 24h... problem is id have to leave my computer on... which is a drawback)

2. On security devices... i only get a green OK. Even when the state is bypassed... i can understand that relative buttin names are difficult (to reflect current state, armed, bypassed, tripped etc) but in fact that would be most usefull

3. raw data yes... but theres still a pattern:
f.i.

Column 2 always "name" (prefix for column 3?)
Column 3 always actual  name of device
Column 4 always "altid" (prefix for ALTID #?)
Column 5 always actual altid number/name
Column 1 and 9 always Device ID


In fact column 2 could be used as a header for 3, 4 as header for 5, 6 as header for 7, 8 as header for 1 and 9
and 10 as header for 11. Lastly column 12 could act as header for 13, after that input becomes more random but still reflect "luup variables"
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 12, 2011, 04:17:57 pm
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Screenshots sent.
Thank you, that will make it easy.
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2. On security devices... i only get a green OK. Even when the state is bypassed... i can understand that relative buttin names are difficult (to reflect current state, armed, bypassed, tripped etc) but in fact that would be most useful
The way I have it set up now is ideal for an external alarm system showing multiple zones..
Perhaps I need to rethink the way it displays ZWave motion detectors and similar type devices.
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3. raw data yes... but theres still a pattern:
f.i.
I think when you see your system grow you will understand. For me and others with larger systems and lots of scenes the columns get messy.
That is really the purpose of the second device list....to sort it all out.
I will give it some thought....there might be a better way.

Regards
Tim
update tonight with bugs fixed......
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on June 12, 2011, 04:49:13 pm
@Tim,

Referring to this thread:
http://forum.mios.com/index.php?topic=6770.0

Is it possible to set scenes/rooms/devices to hidden/unhide through your app?
Since you read the status out of the user_data, it should also be possible to inject something?

Let me know if you see options...
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 12, 2011, 05:59:27 pm
@Tim,
Referring to this thread:
http://forum.mios.com/index.php?topic=6770.0
Is it possible to set scenes/rooms/devices to hidden/unhide through your app?
Since you read the status out of the user_data, it should also be possible to inject something?
Let me know if you see options...
I have a variable changing routine already written....I will try hiding and unhiding a scene ans see what happens.

Here is 1.016 that has your bugs fixed.....scaling is off, so see if that takes care of it.
Quote
http://www.box.net/shared/ztne65frs9vt1l77yy39

Regards
Tim

Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 12, 2011, 09:02:24 pm
1.018....added hide security and save Thermostat and Security info
Latest....http://www.box.net/shared/so30ep0uibzn4sjhipjg (http://www.box.net/shared/so30ep0uibzn4sjhipjg)
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3. raw data yes... but theres still a pattern:
f.i.

Column 2 always "name" (prefix for column 3?)
Column 3 always actual  name of device
Column 4 always "altid" (prefix for ALTID #?)
Column 5 always actual altid number/name
Column 1 and 9 always Device ID
Added column names....this will be ok for new firmware....older firmware the order is totally different!

Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on June 13, 2011, 11:11:16 am
On the thermo's, set cool is not working. Doesn't seem to do anything. Nor do the fan settings.
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 13, 2011, 01:48:41 pm
On the thermo's, set cool is not working. Doesn't seem to do anything. Nor do the fan settings.
You may have told me but what is the brand/model of the thermostats. It is strange that some of the functions work. I need to make sure the commands are the same for all brands....MCV was very consistent on dimmers and switches to use the same commands no matter what the brand was.....I hope this one is the same.
How do your dimmers work.....they have been overhauled!
Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on June 13, 2011, 02:27:35 pm
They are all Trane's- like your picture.

I only have one dimmer but it works perfectly.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 14, 2011, 02:35:16 pm
They are all Trane's- like your picture.
I only have one dimmer but it works perfectly.
Thanks.
I have been testing my thermostat which is a Wayne Dalton and it works fine. I have noticed that the update time on some of the functions can take as long as five minutes. My software sends the commands out and Vera doesn't update the variables until it hears back from the thermostat. The thermostat has timers on turning off the fan that I think slow things down.....
Take a second look and see if the values change over time.
Use my variable watch as well and see what the Vera is reporting.

Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: MNB on June 14, 2011, 04:01:00 pm
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: MNB on June 16, 2011, 09:23:51 pm
@TimAlls, I noticed that your "Touchscreen for Windows" post seems to be void of observations for the past two days. Me thinks that the move from "Scene Scripting" to "Remote Control" has caught most folks by surprise as there isn't anything within the "Scene Scripting" folder indicating that your subject was moved and "Remote Control" which in my humble opinion is not the most intuitive location. Mike
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 17, 2011, 08:00:54 pm
@TimAlls, I noticed that your "Touchscreen for Windows" post seems to be void of observations for the past two days. Me thinks that the move from "Scene Scripting" to "Remote Control" has caught most folks by surprise as there isn't anything within the "Scene Scripting" folder indicating that your subject was moved and "Remote Control" which in my humble opinion is not the most intuitive location. Mike
Hi Mike,
I am not ignoring you .... we are trying to get a 92 foot yacht ready to sail......been tied up. I knew the move would be confusing....I have put code generation on hold until I am done with the current project of touch screen control. I need to get the final done so it can be installed on our latest yacht. All of the reporting functions etc. were laying the foundation for the Control Point interface. I am also going to be adding camera control which is going to be a challenge but I have the basics working. I will be adding a tab that displays 4 cameras in each tab and the camera will pan to a location that you touch....very nice. All panasonic cameras right now and very fast since they go straight to the cameras!
More to come....I hope others will find me here.
By the way, I have found a way to trigger vitual switches in Vera from VISUAL motion detected by the panasonic cameras.....it works with sound as well!
Regards
Tim Alls
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: MNB on June 18, 2011, 10:52:58 am
@TimAlls,  I wasn't implying that your ignoring me, we all have real lives other than our hobby VERA ;D. My only point is that you were getting inputs from several other folks and with the move it seemed to drop to nil. I'm excited about the Panasonic camera feature as all of my camera's are the same, I'm assuming that your using the camera's capability for visual/sound detection? Will await your future updates. Out of curiosity your boat or business related? Mike
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on June 18, 2011, 11:36:25 am
Im still here :D Just waiting for Tim to get his real life obligations done.

@Tim, interesting... i got some new Windows blinds controller from Merten.
Vera wans kind enough to accept it on inclusion.

Usefull to add to your device control?
Looks like it acts as a dimmer, problem is, i have 3 instances controlling one switch (double relay integrated to turn motor left and right).

So when youre ready and feel up to a challenge, i can send you the json to work it over....
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 18, 2011, 01:00:29 pm
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Im still here  Just waiting for Tim to get his real life obligations done.
That is a good way of putting it! I work so I can play and Vera is play time.....
Your project sounds interesting.....I am studying blinds right now...Shady is going to fix me up!
There will be over 20 motorized shades on the yacht I am building....I am hoping for the controllers to motor to a position rather than just up and down.
The touchscreen in this thread is installed on our yacht and being used everyday....
So far so good!
Cameras....wow what a challenge but I am over the hump. I am making a separate program for them until I know the bugs are worked out then I will add them to the current project. I can now do kroon alarms, sound alarms, and vibration alarms all with my panasonic camera!
More to come.....
Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on June 18, 2011, 01:10:10 pm
@Tim

Ok... well i know there are solutions for the US Z-wave versions. Merten is exclusivly EU i think.
However, it should be possible with my new Merten gear to set it to a certain position.
Will let you know how it goes...

As for the camera stuff.... INTERESTED....
(only my generic plugin still doesnt do snapshot easily -streaming works great-)

Let me know where i can help!

Best,

Henk

PS, did you get my last email (16th of june)??
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Minnies on July 02, 2011, 05:00:06 pm
Thanks Henk for directing me this way.

I installed Labview and downloaded the most recent version 1.018 and have it running. I have not been able to get it connected. I inserted my IP address (same one as shown in MyMios). as 192.xxx.x.x
Whn I do it lights the green read light for a bit and then a button pops up besides the read light indicating read error. Any thoughts as to how to make it function?

Thanks,
Ron
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on July 02, 2011, 05:03:28 pm
@Minnies

This could indicate a bad network connection to your Vera.
Did you save after inserting the IP address? did you set port 3480 (default)

Theres a lot of variables that could go wrong, let me know
- Are you trying the software on your local LAN or remote?
- Are you sure you have the right IP (you can also check it in Vera's UI by clicking advanced in your toolbox (top section) and got to the net & wifi section)

Thanks Henk for directing me this way.

I installed Labview and downloaded the most recent version 1.018 and have it running. I have not been able to get it connected. I inserted my IP address (same one as shown in MyMios). as 192.xxx.x.x
Whn I do it lights the green read light for a bit and then a button pops up besides the read light indicating read error. Any thoughts as to how to make it function?

Thanks,
Ron
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Minnies on July 02, 2011, 05:15:04 pm
Wow, that is fast Henk

I have 2 different addresses. The one I  wrote down when installing Vera and the one shown in IU4. They only differ by the last digit (by 1). I have the one shown in My Mios indicated.

I am doing this remotely. I have IU4 up and running and everything seems okay there.

When in Labview it now show 190 and counting reads and the reading in the dimmer space has changed.

One thing I noticed is I never had to indicate a password, but that may only apply to MyMios. Not sure.
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on July 02, 2011, 05:15:48 pm
@TimAlls

Found some interesting bugs when going back to 1.018 after i added my latest z-wave devices to Vera.
Let me know when you find time to check them over with me....

For now... il wait till you get back online  8)
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on July 02, 2011, 05:19:51 pm
Ron,

This application does not use any passwords. It connects directly to the user_data on your Vera.
When the counting starts and the led blinks green, there is connectivity and you can start playing with the program.

Be aware, when using this application remotely, you need your portforwarding set correctly to get acces to the local IP of your device. Also the internet speed/bandwith plays a role.

If one or some of the packets gets dropped, you might get read errors since the program cannot acces the user_data momentarily. No problem, it should pick it up again a little later after a few (automatic) retries.

Hope that helps!
Wow, that is fast Henk

I have 2 different addresses. The one I  wrote down when installing Vera and the one shown in IU4. They only differ by the last digit (by 1). I have the one shown in My Mios indicated.

I am doing this remotely. I have IU4 up and running and everything seems okay there.

When in Labview it now show 190 and counting reads and the reading in the dimmer space has changed.

One thing I noticed is I never had to indicate a password, but that may only apply to MyMios. Not sure.
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on July 02, 2011, 11:58:15 pm
Hi All,
I have been bogged down at work and unable to play....but things are slowing down now!
Henk, Give me the latest bug report abd I will start working on them.
Minnies, I never really intended this to be used remotely.....what is the application you need this for....just curious
I don't have it setup to access through MIOS but I can look at adding it in if enough people want to use it that way.
Let me know....
Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Minnies on July 03, 2011, 09:45:39 am
Hi Tim. It is for a rental house. Some of what I see and hear would be very good for that application. I will be at the house in 2 weeks and can verify if I have the remote access enabled (though I am pretty sure I do as I can access it through Mios).

Thanks,
Ron
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: computerjohn on July 03, 2011, 10:16:54 pm
Hey Tim,

Is this just for a desktop or mobile device?  Also what is the OS Windows XP, Vista, 7 or Windows Mobile 6.5 or Windows Mobile 7?
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on July 04, 2011, 04:08:08 am
@computerjohn

As @Timalls is a bit busy these days ill jump in:

The software is based on the LABVIEW framework. So basically, the program will work on any client/OS you can install LABVIEW on.

Installation instructions are in the first post of this thread.

Jump here: http://forum.mios.com/index.php?topic=6515.msg40269#msg40269

Hey Tim,

Is this just for a desktop or mobile device?  Also what is the OS Windows XP, Vista, 7 or Windows Mobile 6.5 or Windows Mobile 7?
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: oTi@ on July 04, 2011, 07:43:46 am
Is this just for a desktop or mobile device?
My guess is it will work with at least the Windows desktop versions. It does not run on Mac (http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=6422.msg39728#msg39728) however, despite the availability of the LabView runtime engine.
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on July 04, 2011, 09:57:51 am
@henk is correct.....The software will run on any Windows version you have and it will not run on a Mac....sorry! I use it on a Touchscreen All in One computer that is embedded into a wall between the Galley and Salon ( kitchen and living room) and it gives you great Local control over the Vera. It could be useful on a laptop, Pen Computer, or any other Windows based machine for operating your lights. The back side to the control....reports, graphing, etc. Can help you figure things out about your system. It's ideal for me, of course, but I hope others will enjoy it as well. I don't currently support access through MIOS, but it is really easy to use LogMeIn for free remote access to your local PC running this software.
I am currently working on an additional Tab for multiple cameras to be displayed.
Regards
Tim Alls
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on July 04, 2011, 10:01:44 am
Hey Tim,

Is this just for a desktop or mobile device?  Also what is the OS Windows XP, Vista, 7 or Windows Mobile 6.5 or Windows Mobile 7?
I have tested it on XP, Vista, and Windows 7. It is for desktops, there are lots of software packages for the mobile devices....EG SQRemote.
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on July 05, 2011, 03:58:44 pm
Hi Tim,

One found (and reproducable) bug.
The dimmercontrol on the control panel "flickers"
When a second dimmer is added, the first "stabilizes" and the second one starts to flickr.

Henk

PS, cant wait to see the cam functionality!!!


Hi All,
I have been bogged down at work and unable to play....but things are slowing down now!
Henk, Give me the latest bug report abd I will start working on them.
Minnies, I never really intended this to be used remotely.....what is the application you need this for....just curious
I don't have it setup to access through MIOS but I can look at adding it in if enough people want to use it that way.
Let me know....
Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on July 06, 2011, 03:21:22 pm
Hi Henk,
I will see if I can reproduce the bug.....how many dimmers do you have?
Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Henk on July 06, 2011, 04:02:33 pm
Hi Tim,

Thats the strange thing... I have NO dimmers....

What i do have are the new Merten sunscreen controllers (also showing a non functional dimmer bar by the way) that i cant select as dimmer either.

Need my json?

Hi Henk,
I will see if I can reproduce the bug.....how many dimmers do you have?
Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: virginian on August 10, 2011, 05:11:25 pm
Tried to install Touchscreen on my Windows PC but after requesting my Vera' IP came with the Read Error. Is there any error log to look for the error details?

How about IP address in the footer?

It's different from my Vera's IP.

 HTTP/1.1
Accept: text/javascript, text/html, application/xml, text/xml, */*
Accept-Language: en-us
x-prototype-version: 1.7_rc1
Referer: http://192.168.81.1/cmh/
x-requested-with: XMLHttpRequest
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729)
Host: 192.168.81.1
Connection: Keep-Alive
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on October 05, 2011, 06:32:15 pm
Hi Everyone...
I get dozens of downloads a day on this software and I am wondering how it working out for you!?
I no longer use the Vera due to it's unpredictability in a commercial application and I have switched to a Leviton Serial Module to send and receive ZWave commands.....works perfect and very simple.
I will, however, try to update this software if any serious bugs appear so keep me informed!
Thanks
Tim Alls
AllSeas Yachts
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on October 05, 2011, 09:12:40 pm
Hi Tim,

Nice to hear from you again! I thought you were busy. Didn't realize you had abandoned the poor and featureless... ;D

I use your interface almost exclusively to turn on and off switches, change thermostat values, and almost everything but actual scene production. It's a wonderful piece of software that is really easy to use.

I do have a question, though. On the analog reporting, my graph seems to be the inverse of the items chosen to it's right. Is this user fixable?

If your software could write scenes, I wouldn't probably need the Vera UI.....

Sorry to hear you've abandoned Vera, but I understand. You're selling a product and it has to be reliable. I wish you well in your yacht sales....

Thanks again!


PS. Tell us how you're using the Leviton Serial Module you mentioned. And what controls IT?
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: jackpot on October 06, 2011, 11:33:02 am
Hi Tim,

[ "I have switched to a Leviton Serial Module to send and receive ZWave commands.....works perfect and very simple." ]

Would sure like to know more about the Leviton Serial Module and the setup your using. How about letting us know more about it. I am considering getting one to send serial commands to the module from external hardware and am wondering how the module integrates with a Vera. I realize you probably are not using a Vera but your insight would be helpful.
Thanks
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on October 09, 2011, 09:44:47 am
Hi Tim,

[ "I have switched to a Leviton Serial Module to send and receive ZWave commands.....works perfect and very simple." ]

Would sure like to know more about the Leviton Serial Module and the setup your using. How about letting us know more about it. I am considering getting one to send serial commands to the module from external hardware and am wondering how the module integrates with a Vera. I realize you probably are not using a Vera but your insight would be helpful.
Thanks
The Leviton Serial interface is a very basic module and very easy to use. It has a RS232 port and the module plugs in your wall. The commands are simple compared to Vera .....usually 3 or 4 bytes of text and the commands go out! You use simple little commands to read ZWave modules as well.
 I discovered is that ZWave dimmers are slow to respond so I use two modules.....one to send and one to poll the modules. The units are cheap and it gives me a backup module. So I send outgoing commands to one module and run an update poll on the second modules giving me great response time to the system. As for interfacing with Vera.....
Someone like @guessed could give advice on sending and receiving serial information from the Leviton interface.
........it can be done but I am unclear as to what the benefit would be. It is the slow response from Vera and occasional "hangs" that make the system unpredictable. If, for example, a dimmer is not responding then Vera hangs up on the outgoing scene commands......you will see 3 second responses or even longer which for my wife or my clients is enough delay to make the user feel the system isn't working. The other consideration is your ZWave Grid.....once a Vera is introduced it becomes a part of the grid. What I discovered is that dimmers look to the Vera as an active part of the Grid and sometimes map there commands through the Vera. Because of this if Vera is pondering over things due to no Internet or what ever then the scene delays popup again.....it is the same as a dead node on the network!
The one thing that I am clear on is that a fast working system has to be carefully designed.....for example watch out for single bulbs on a single dimmer. If that bulb fails then even the Leviton Scene and Zone controllers slow wayyyyyyyyyyyyy down and make you thing something is broke!
I love the idea of ZWave but in my world it has to work immediate and every time. Truthfully I am still looking for a better lighting system due to inherent design flaws in the ZWave Grid.
I love the idea of the Vera but it has proven to be more of a toy for my home and not a commercial device.
I hope that helps.....I can give you the command PDF for the Leviton Serial interface if you want to dig deeper.
Regard
Tim Alls
AllSeas Yachts
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on October 09, 2011, 09:54:10 am
Hi Tim,

Nice to hear from you again! I thought you were busy. Didn't realize you had abandoned the poor and featureless... ;D

I use your interface almost exclusively to turn on and off switches, change thermostat values, and almost everything but actual scene production. It's a wonderful piece of software that is really easy to use.

I do have a question, though. On the analog reporting, my graph seems to be the inverse of the items chosen to it's right. Is this user fixable?

If your software could write scenes, I wouldn't probably need the Vera UI.....

Sorry to hear you've abandoned Vera, but I understand. You're selling a product and it has to be reliable. I wish you well in your yacht sales....

Thanks again!


PS. Tell us how you're using the Leviton Serial Module you mentioned. And what controls IT?
I will take a look at the graphing function and get back to you.....it's been a while since I wrote the code so I will have to refresh my memory!
In regards to scenes.......I am adding the creation of scenes to my software in the near future......I need it as well. My thinking is that you set up the dimmers the way you like them and press a "create" button and it will prompt you for a name. that's it!
The scenes will be created with the visible dimmers you have and not all your dimmers so that grouping is automatic.....I hope that make sense. Let me know your ideas on scene creation, I always hated that Vera makes you go through so many steps.
Check out my previous post for more information on the Leviton Serial Module.
More to come.....hope your doing well!
Regards
Tim Alls
AllSeas Yachts
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: therealabdo on October 24, 2011, 05:28:07 am
Hello All,

I want to thank you for this amazing program

Anyway, everything is working till now with me except for the Motor Control Switches, i have a shutter control which is cant be seen by your program, i have tried to look for a post regarding this matter but i couldnt find any

thnx
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on October 25, 2011, 12:59:34 pm
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Hello All,

I want to thank you for this amazing program

Anyway, everything is working till now with me except for the Motor Control Switches, i have a shutter control which is cant be seen by your program, i have tried to look for a post regarding this matter but i couldnt find any

thnx

Just curious what category number do the switches fall under?
Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: therealabdo on October 26, 2011, 03:50:10 am
I didn't understand what do u mean by category number..U know i am new to this technology :)
anyway i am controlling this device via Vera using D_WindowCovering1.xml
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Ap15e on October 26, 2011, 03:59:08 pm
http://wiki.micasaverde.com/index.php/Luup_UPNP_Files#Device_Categories

Install LSI to get a list of your devices, check the column 'Cat' on the LSI 'Devices' tab.

Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: therealabdo on November 01, 2011, 05:12:45 am
thank you for your reply

actually its cat is 8
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on November 04, 2011, 05:46:33 pm
I currently do not have controls to support Cat 8......sorry!
Tim Alls
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: wichiepr on November 15, 2011, 07:58:17 am
@TimAlls

Unfortunately I discover  the same thing about Vera2, no good for commercial. I am in the commercial specify in the fast food area doing energy manageent, since the cost in our island are over .29 a KWHR. At this moment we are working with the Niagara Platform no problem just the price and everything is wire, no know that is a problem for retrofit especially on yachts, that the reason I start looking to Vera2 and the wireless thing. We also have a lot of marine market here and I did start with Xamboo but I get to the same conclusion, no good for commercial . I read everything of your  project with Vera and is a god one. I am wondering if you can tell me more about the project with the Leviton we can explore the alternative for our market and your market. I think that the Vera@ is good for small boats application and small commercial. DO you have implemented a floor plan with all the devices in you project? Please send me a PM so we can discuss it if you have time. Or let me know if I can call you.
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: nickrwym on November 21, 2011, 05:09:48 pm
Hi Tim

A new Vera user here, started off on your threads due to the lack of any "and" functionality and read from end to end, an interesting project.

Did the "code generator" ever get put together or did the touch screen side take over??

I'm setting Vera up to control the heating and the lack of basic functionality without coding is annoying to say the least

Thanks

Nick
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: rogerdata on December 02, 2011, 02:09:29 pm
Hi Tim;
One thing I noticed is the temps are wrong on the thermostats.
The current temp and the cooling setpoint are reversed.
They appear ok in the temp/light/humidity screen but are mixed up on the controls-thermostat screen.
Roger
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on December 16, 2011, 05:29:25 pm
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Hi Tim
A new Vera user here, started off on your threads due to the lack of any "and" functionality and read from end to end, an interesting project.
Did the "code generator" ever get put together or did the touch screen side take over??
I'm setting Vera up to control the heating and the lack of basic functionality without coding is annoying to say the least
Thanks
Nick
Hi Nick,
The touchscreen took over the need for custom coding. I couldn't remain reliable while using the Vera.....just too many bugs. My solution was to use all Leviton products and the switch to the Leviton Serial adapter for comunicating with the zwave dimmers. This has proved to be very reliable.  Sorry for the delayed response.....I don't get on here that often....I will try to getbetter about that!
Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on December 16, 2011, 05:33:16 pm
Quote
Hi Tim;
One thing I noticed is the temps are wrong on the thermostats.
The current temp and the cooling setpoint are reversed.
They appear ok in the temp/light/humidity screen but are mixed up on the controls-thermostat screen.
Roger
I will take a look at the coding and see if I can make a correction. I have been so busy with new development using the Leviton Serial adapter that I havent had time to update this older piece of software....I hope it is still proving to be useful for all of you Vera Users!
Is anyone using the Vera 3? Is it any better?
Regards
Tim Alls
AllSeas Yachts
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: nickrwym on December 17, 2011, 01:39:17 am
Thanks for the updat Tim. I thought that was probably the case.

I've got vera behaving herself now and doing a good job as a heating controller and data logger. It was a steeper learning curve than I expected though.

Nick
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: M2MExpert on August 10, 2012, 08:48:58 am
Is this a dead project?
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Piwtorak on August 10, 2012, 08:56:07 am
what website can I download the latest version ?
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on August 10, 2012, 09:38:47 am
Is this a dead project?
It's not dead....I haven't made any changes with it in quite some time. I have not heard from any one as to UI5 and Vera 3.....does it still work with the newer versions?
Any feed back would be great.

As to the latest version it is posted at the begining of this thread.....

Regards
Tim Alls
AllSeas yachts
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: M2MExpert on August 10, 2012, 09:45:16 am
Well I'm new to the whole thing. I have a Vera Lite and want to learn more. Let me download and give it a shot. Let you know.
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: M2MExpert on August 10, 2012, 10:44:03 am
Is this a dead project?

Any feed back would be great.


It runs... so I'm on the right track. I just need to figure out what to do with it now.

One thing I noticed is that I cannot exit the program. I have to kill it in taskmgr. I'm running on Win 7 64 bit.
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Piwtorak on August 10, 2012, 04:43:27 pm
I have installed it. but what this really do ?????
I have to buy a license ?
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on August 17, 2012, 04:44:39 pm
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One thing I noticed is that I cannot exit the program. I have to kill it in taskmgr. I'm running on Win 7 64 bit.
Make sure you are running the latest version....1.018....the quit button is used to exit on the top right side.

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I have installed it. but what this really do ??
I have to buy a license ?

No money...no license...it's free.

This program will control lights / scenes/ thermostats from a touchscreen computer....help you see what the Vera outputs, graph lighting loads to check script timing, print reports...and lot's more.

Play with it....you may find it useful.

Regards
Tim Alls
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: parkerc on September 25, 2012, 04:18:44 am
Hi Tim,

Sorry to bring a negative to this thread, but I was downloading your codegenerator&report 1_028 application and Google Chrome suggests with a red no entry sign, that it 'appears malicious'.

Checking again using IE , it did not say anything and scanning with Norton it found nothing.

So not sure if this is just my instance,, but it seems when downloaded via Google it does not seem to like your app.
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: kgrr on December 15, 2012, 01:05:22 pm
Tim,
I installed the Labview runtime on my laptop and then installed the app.  Works fine.  However, I have a couple of questions:
1) Does Vera send an indication as to what nodes belong to which room?  It's a bit awkward to have to define what is all included in each room manually.
2) The app seems to poll Vera quite often.  Does that cause problems?  Does Vera send a notification when something in the JASON file changed?

Konrad
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: wlaurent on January 11, 2013, 01:13:56 pm
Hi Tim

Appears to work well with the Vera3 controller - which is quite a bit faster and more reliable than the previous versions.

1. Any progress on the code generator?
2. Care to share the source code?

I am a LV programmer, would like to see where you are at and perhaps colaborate on this project (or the other one you are working on).

- William
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on February 17, 2013, 01:41:14 pm
Hi William,
I have not done anything with the Code Generator....I had trouble with the reliablity of the Vera and went a different direction. I would be interested to know if the Vera 3 is more stable and can it run without the internet.....on our yachts we just don't have internet all the time.
I would be happy to share all by Labview Code if that is something you are interested in.
Let me know.
Thanks
Tim Alls
AllSeas Yachts
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: ballroller on February 17, 2013, 01:55:26 pm
Tim- would you mind telling us what you are using now in place of Vera?
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on February 17, 2013, 02:26:18 pm
@ballroller,
I don't want to discourage the use of the Vera.....it is fine for most homes. In my world it has to work everytime you push a button and it has to work quickly. I just couldn't get that to happen.
As a result I switched to an all Leviton system. I have been using the Leviton serial module to send and recieve commands but I am playing with their USB adapter as well. I don't use the locks so Leviton is fine with me. I use the free Leviton software to setup my Zwave, save it file, program my remotes, program my zone / scene controllers, and to setup the serial interfaces. It is so nice to work with products that are all compatible with each other.....it's predictable! My zone and scene controllers work fast and consistent......everytime.
Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: wlaurent on June 17, 2013, 08:14:12 pm
Hi Tim

I would be very interested in reviewing the VI's. If you like you can email them to me at wlaurent@cox.net
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: big517 on June 19, 2013, 07:30:59 am
So the Leviton is rock solid regarding scenes right?   What about a non Leviton brand switch in the network?  Does it compromise the success rate?

Does it also have rules you can program to set levels based on time of day for example?

I have the option of adding Leviton zwave controller to my elk system but all my switches are GE so I'm not sure what to expect.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 19, 2013, 09:00:10 am
@wlaurent.....no problem, I will post the VI's later today......I will post them here so any other Labview programmers can have access.
@big517...scenes are rock solid when using Leviton Scene controllers with Leviton dimmers....
.years ago when I tested my first system I had GE dimmers.....at that time the GE dimmers had bugs when used with Leviton scene controllers. If I remember you couldn't set the scene by holding the button.....maybe it's changed, I don't know.
If you use a Leviton scene controller you want to use it the way it was designed......control by association....that way the controller talks directly to the dimmer and avoids delays.
Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: big517 on June 19, 2013, 10:14:40 am
So it only offers creation of scenes and association of devices?  Nothing as far as automation.
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on June 19, 2013, 08:54:11 pm
So it only offers creation of scenes and association of devices?  Nothing as far as automation.
That is correct.....you need the Vera to do automation...or something like it.

@wlaurent
Here is the link to the Labview source code...... https://www.box.com/s/kaff8l27p6w89afginm1

Let me know if you need anything else!
Regards
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Da_JoJo on July 08, 2013, 06:31:05 am
do you mind if i use parts of your code to program a C++/C# application for windows which does not require labview or other external program to run ?
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on July 08, 2013, 11:58:22 am
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do you mind if i use parts of your code to program a C++/C# application for windows which does not require labview or other external program to run ?
Not at all......I only program in Labview so a program written in C++ would really be nice.
Good luck!
Tim
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Da_JoJo on July 09, 2013, 06:39:00 am
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do you mind if i use parts of your code to program a C++/C# application for windows which does not require labview or other external program to run ?
Not at all......I only program in Labview so a program written in C++ would really be nice.
Good luck!
Tim
thanx :-)
i am currently working on a Visual C program for vera. the hardest part is the userinterface, where to put the controls and where everything should go to be usefull for controlling the vera. currently its set up by rooms which are in tabs above the control window. we have tiles for devices in every separate room which can be clicked. a bit like the UI5 interface but just with the controls in it, no settings and stuff. it works from the internet and on local network. just started on it so there is still a lot to do. going to look into the option to have several dimmers and switches on one page like you have in the labview interface, hence i wanted to ask you first if you are ok with that. the plan is to make a basic version that works and does all that is needed and then move on to make it a open source project so anyone can jump in and enhance it. was thinking about some basic theme which can be set by the user and perhaps some admin/guest/control-operator login. any feedback for how it should look in the end and good ideas are more then welcome. even a drawing of how the program should look like is welcome :-)
edit: made a topic for it http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,15583.0.html
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: maja on November 09, 2014, 03:15:34 pm
TimAlls, did you ever get around creating that C++/C# application? Also are there any alternatives to this project?
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: TimAlls on November 09, 2014, 06:34:00 pm
Hi,
Look at the last blog....it was D_Jo Jo who was doing the C++ program.....I only write Labview code...sorry.
I am unsure as to any other window programs. Mine is quite old and probably outdated.
Good luck.
Tim Alls
Title: Re: Touchscreen Interface for Vera...download
Post by: Sams on September 25, 2018, 04:51:17 am
Is this just for a desktop or mobile device? and where is the link to download the touchscreen interface for vera