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General => Lighting & Load Control => Topic started by: SuperflyMD on May 16, 2011, 04:55:51 pm

Title: Ceiling Fan Controllers?
Post by: SuperflyMD on May 16, 2011, 04:55:51 pm
I use the Hampton Bay remotes for ceilingfan/light dimmers at home. Is there a similar z-wave compatible controller I could put into the ceiling fans in my Vacation Rental property?
Title: Re: Ceiling Fan Controllers?
Post by: MikeAWood on May 16, 2011, 07:37:14 pm
I actually have the same question, but in researching, the only thing I can find are the Vizia RF+ fan controllers...  VRF01-1LZ

I'd love to replace the embedded remote sensor in the fan and Z-Wave enable it..
Title: Re: Ceiling Fan Controllers?
Post by: oTi@ on May 16, 2011, 08:02:19 pm
[...]only thing I can find are the Vizia RF+ fan controllers...  VRF01-1LZ
Those work great, but only control the fan, not the lights. So you'd have to get a switch/dimmer too for those. And that is if you have the fan and lights on separate switches; or you may lose the lights.
Title: Re: Ceiling Fan Controllers?
Post by: Intrepid on May 16, 2011, 08:55:28 pm
I use a dimmer switch on the lights and a switch switch for the fan.  No speed/direction controls, just on/off, but it works great.  How often do you need to change speed/direction anyway?
Title: Re: Ceiling Fan Controllers?
Post by: oTi@ on May 16, 2011, 09:01:31 pm
I use a dimmer switch on the lights and a switch switch for the fan.  No speed/direction controls, just on/off, but it works great.  How often do you need to change speed/direction anyway?
That will work too and is definitely cheaper to implement. All depends on personal preference. You could have Vera control the fan speed based on the temperature in the room, for example.
Title: Re: Ceiling Fan Controllers?
Post by: Intrepid on May 16, 2011, 09:06:35 pm
Yep.  I have what I feel is an undersized A/C unit (3 ton? for 2500 sq ft) and it struggles to keep the house at 70 on our 90+ degree months.  The guy would not put a larger one in without upsizing the ductwork.  Anyway, I'm sure the ceiling fans don't really help COOL the house, but they sure make it feel cooler to your skin, help with circulation, etc.

I have them set to come on at 75 degrees and off at 72 (based on thermostat ambient temp) when we're not away.

Title: Re: Ceiling Fan Controllers?
Post by: shifter775 on May 16, 2011, 10:41:33 pm
A bit off topic, but does anyone know if ceiling fans come with multiple pieces for use with and without pull chains? I'd like a cleaner installed look (without pull chain openings) for a fan that is going to be mounted outside of normal reach.

I thought I would ask all the informed folks here instead of just buying one to find out.

TIA
Title: Re: Ceiling Fan Controllers?
Post by: DA INFERNO on May 16, 2011, 11:09:27 pm
I use a dimmer switch on the lights and a switch switch for the fan.  No speed/direction controls, just on/off, but it works great.  How often do you need to change speed/direction anyway?

This is how I do it also. ;D
Title: Re: Ceiling Fan Controllers?
Post by: SuperflyMD on May 17, 2011, 02:14:03 am
The problem is they're in an old building and there is only one wall switch for each light/fan unit.  The Hampton Bay remote essentially leaves the wall switch constantly "on" then uses RF to control both the lights (off/on/dim) and fan (off/low/med/high) at the ceiling fan. That functionality is key, and outweighs any desire I have to include the fans in the z-wave network.
Title: Re: Ceiling Fan Controllers?
Post by: oTi@ on May 17, 2011, 06:13:52 am
The problem is they're in an old building and there is only one wall switch for each light/fan unit.  
Right. Depending on what you'd like the Z-Wave functionality for, you could replace the wall switch with a Z-Wave one. That would let you remotely cut the power to the fan/lights, so you can be sure they're off.

In terms of inline, you could use the Evolve FM-20 relay. That would give you on/off. And there is (will be?) the Aeon Labs micro switches (http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=5455.0). You'd lose the speed control on the fan.
Title: Re: Ceiling Fan Controllers?
Post by: strangely on May 17, 2011, 12:40:47 pm
I believe there's a Aeon micro switch specifically for fans, and they also have reversible controls from what I read. There's a thread somewhere here from someone that has one.

Also there are many fans available without the dangling control chains; they are usually the ones that come with remotes! I bought one of these and just junked the remote part, and then converted my single gang box to the dual gang to fit Leviton Fan controller.

If you could get the Aeon modules then you might be able to hide this in your ceiling!
Title: Re: Ceiling Fan Controllers?
Post by: DA INFERNO on May 18, 2011, 12:27:49 am
Yep.  I have what I feel is an undersized A/C unit (3 ton? for 2500 sq ft) and it struggles to keep the house at 70 on our 90+ degree months.  The guy would not put a larger one in without upsizing the ductwork.  Anyway, I'm sure the ceiling fans don't really help COOL the house, but they sure make it feel cooler to your skin, help with circulation, etc.

I have them set to come on at 75 degrees and off at 72 (based on thermostat ambient temp) when we're not away.



I tried to set up the way you have it. Fans come on at 75 and off at 72, but its not working. Can you explain how you set this up? ???
Title: Re: Ceiling Fan Controllers?
Post by: SuperflyMD on May 18, 2011, 01:20:11 am
I've been checking out multiple z-wave forums (forae?) and this issue comes up frequently.

There is a lot of demand for what seems like a simple fix, ie add a z-wave chip to RF controllers that work on both the light and fan in a ceiling fan. The chip should be in the receiver (installed aftermarket in the fan) with the wall switch (really 4 push buttons, one each for Light Dimmer, Fan Off-Low-Med-High) being a simple RF transmitter like the ones already available. That way, the Vera 2 or other controller only has to interact with one device (receiver).

Anybody have connections with Hampton Bay or another manufacturer?  The buyers are waiting.
Title: Re: Ceiling Fan Controllers?
Post by: mario23 on April 03, 2012, 07:01:31 pm
I believe there's a Aeon micro switch specifically for fans, and they also have reversible controls from what I read. There's a thread somewhere here from someone that has one.

Also there are many fans available without the dangling control chains; they are usually the ones that come with remotes! I bought one of these and just junked the remote part, and then converted my single gang box to the dual gang to fit Leviton Fan controller.

If you could get the Aeon modules then you might be able to hide this in your ceiling!

I know this is old but wanted to ask you about your setup.  Did you just run a separate line for the light to another switch?  I was thinking I could do this...get the Leviton fan controller for the fan and a dimmer for the light if could just run a separate line...
Title: Re: Ceiling Fan Controllers?
Post by: strangely on April 03, 2012, 07:24:19 pm
Well originally my room had no lights or Fans on the ceiling and the wall switch controlled an outlet. When I installed it I just routed some 3 core romex (12-3 I think) up the wall, into the attic towards the fan light combo I fitted (had to drill holes in the ceiling etc) and installed the new Leviton Fan controller.

If you already have a light or fan there its probably 12-2 Romex, so you can either install a second run of 12-2 to it, or replace it with 12-3. Might want to check your wiring anyway, as they may have already installed 12-3 and if so you are good for separate control of the respective loads. by utilizing the unused or spare wire. (They will share a neutral)
Title: Re: Ceiling Fan Controllers?
Post by: mario23 on April 03, 2012, 08:22:37 pm
Good point about the neutral...I'll take a look.
Already ordered the dimmer and fan controller :)
Title: Re: Ceiling Fan Controllers?
Post by: TheSaint on February 11, 2013, 12:24:37 am
This would be a good solution for someone to cook up. Honestly, I'd like to have a wall switch with the right buttons (like Hampton Bay's wall switch/remote) that can be controlled via z-wave. Or a cheaper solution....at least a module I can simply plug into an outlet somewhere in the room where the fan is that can send the same signals as the fan's portable remote, that is controlled via z-wave.