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Title: Introduction to VeraMate [Feat. GeoFencing/iBeacons/Voice Control/Watch & more]
Post by: veramate on October 25, 2014, 05:29:21 pm
[This is an updated "introduction to VeraMate" to replace the previous thread]

I'd like to introduce VeraMate - an iPhone and iPad app for the vera controller.   VeraMate is a simple but powerful home automation application to connect to your Vera controller. This allows you to control z-wave/X10 devices like your lights, curtains/blinds, heating, locks, and more.

VeraMate is designed to be a simple and elegant way to control your device. No setup is required, it simply chooses the best configuration for you to control your home. The power is then in your hand to customize !

Now works with Apple Watch

VeraMate is one of the most advanced apps on the market. How about just some of what VeraMate offers:

You will need a Vera Lite, or a Vera 3 box to be able to utilise this app.

- NOTE: Continued use of GPS running in the background can dramatically decrease battery life.

List of Features:

We are under active development, with many new features planned. We won't give away all, but stay tuned for more exciting changes.

VeraMate comes in 2 flavours - a free one supported by ads and limited use for the iPad version which can be upgraded "in-app", and a premium one with no limitations.

Feel free to try them out:
FREE: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/veramate-lite/id681969033?mt=8
Premium: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/veramate-premium/id714453401?mt=8

Full change log (from v5 and onwards) can be found here:
http://veramate.com/site/changelog
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: aaronsquire on October 26, 2014, 10:31:06 am
Latest version controlled my Vera first time I used it... However when I tried to use voice control it crashes. Now it just keeps saying refreshing. Closing the app and restarting doesn't work. I've tried completely rebooting my phone. Still doesn't work.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: veramate on October 26, 2014, 10:56:10 am
Latest version controlled my Vera first time I used it... However when I tried to use voice control it crashes. Now it just keeps saying refreshing. Closing the app and restarting doesn't work. I've tried completely rebooting my phone. Still doesn't work.

I changed the description above yesterday as I've found out nuance (the voice control provider) haven't activated their server for the release properly.   I'm currently trying to chase down what they are doing, but they aren't seeming to support their system.

I don't think that will be related to any connection problem - could you send me a diagnostic so I can see perhaps why?  Logging out/in should fix any connection problems that might've occurred...

Just to re-emphasise though, I have to delay the Voice Control use while I found out what the provider is doing.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2014, 11:59:24 am
Crashing at the splash screen on iTouch running IOS 6.1
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: veramate on October 27, 2014, 05:40:52 am
Crashing at the splash screen on iTouch running IOS 6.1

The developement environment for VeraMate has all been upgraded to the latest software, but I didn't notice iOS6 isn't supported any longer by Apple.   I'll be working on this to find out what I can do to allow iOS6 users, so please bare with me.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: skydivinpilot on November 02, 2014, 01:51:50 pm
veramate-  I like that you have support for ibeacons!  What do you recommend I buy in order to begin using them?  Should I get the estimote devkit that has 3 beacons for $99?
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: koburg on November 03, 2014, 03:08:07 pm
How long is response time for ibeacons when Enter room ?
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: petequintanilla on November 03, 2014, 07:33:02 pm
Quote
VeraMate is one of the most advanced apps on the market. How about just some of what VeraMate offers:
Control your home with your voice. Say, "Turn on the kitchen lights", and VeraMate will carry out your command. **
Update: It would appear very bad timing, but the voice server seems to be having problems.  Voice Control will be offline while I reach their support!

Do you have any update for the voice control yet?
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: veramate on November 08, 2014, 10:36:01 am
** Sorry for the delay in replying, all - I have been travelling overseas so haven't had the chance.

veramate-  I like that you have support for ibeacons!  What do you recommend I buy in order to begin using them?  Should I get the estimote devkit that has 3 beacons for $99?

Thanks.   VeraMate should work with any iBeacon - I myself got the 3 beacon estimote devkit to develop with it, so I couldn't comment on whether others are better/worse.   Any iBeacon should work with VeraMate; you simply need to enter the ibeacon id to scan and register a device - VeraMate currently knows about 7 different manufacturers, which can be scanned automatically, but it's easy to scan if VeraMate doesn't know about it.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: veramate on November 08, 2014, 10:38:13 am
How long is response time for ibeacons when Enter room ?

Unfortunately this can be variable, as VeraMate only starts scanning once iOS tells it something is close by.  Otherwise the battery drain would be enormous.  So it can be from 1 second, to perhaps a couple...
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: veramate on November 08, 2014, 10:41:19 am
Do you have any update for the voice control yet?

Unfortunately not.  Dragon/Nuance are providing the voice detection, but I am incredibly unimpressed with their service/competence at the moment.  It has been escalated apparently, so I'll hope to hear back early next week, or I'll have to switch to another provider.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: tb001 on November 08, 2014, 10:48:33 am
How long is response time for ibeacons when Enter room ?

Unfortunately this can be variable, as VeraMate only starts scanning once iOS tells it something is close by.  Otherwise the battery drain would be enormous.  So it can be from 1 second, to perhaps a couple...

Are you really seeing the ibeacons trigger reliably within a couple of seconds? Using another app, but it seems totally hit or miss. I've bought vermate, but haven't set up the ibeacons yet, so would be curious to hear your experience. If it works reliably and is that fast, I'll spend the time to set them up!
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: East on November 10, 2014, 04:34:37 pm
do you plan to add shortcut controls for notification center? Philips Hue recently added notification center support and that works really quick without the need to unlock the device or open the app.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: veramate on November 10, 2014, 05:31:27 pm
do you plan to add shortcut controls for notification center? Philips Hue recently added notification center support and that works really quick without the need to unlock the device or open the app.

I have been looking into this over the last couple of days as a matter of fact.  This will make it in, but I can't say when yet... :)
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: veramate on November 10, 2014, 05:36:36 pm
Are you really seeing the ibeacons trigger reliably within a couple of seconds? Using another app, but it seems totally hit or miss. I've bought vermate, but haven't set up the ibeacons yet, so would be curious to hear your experience. If it works reliably and is that fast, I'll spend the time to set them up!

I probably should have caveated it with that... no, I can't say I have found iBeacons 100% reliable.  I don't think I could say yet they could be used for something such as moving from room to room to have lights always turn on.   If they're detected they work fine within seconds, but, sometimes I believe the low power nature/requirement of how apple implement the bluetooth api means there may be a longer delay.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: East on November 10, 2014, 06:22:31 pm
do you plan to add shortcut controls for notification center? Philips Hue recently added notification center support and that works really quick without the need to unlock the device or open the app.

I have been looking into this over the last couple of days as a matter of fact.  This will make it in, but I can't say when yet... :)

Wow... looking forward for that feature :)
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: BrianAz on December 07, 2014, 01:16:29 pm
I'm having trouble logging in. Ios 8, vera mate 8.3.1 and UI7. Using my Getvera.com login info which works with homewwve. Not sure why it's not letting me login. What can I do to debug?

Thx
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: veramate on December 09, 2014, 09:22:30 am
I'm having trouble logging in. Ios 8, vera mate 8.3.1 and UI7. Using my Getvera.com login info which works with homewwve. Not sure why it's not letting me login. What can I do to debug?

Thx

As you've mentioned, will take this up on other thread for any other's who have this issue;
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,28239.0.html
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: goldriver on December 18, 2014, 07:07:33 am
Is there a way Veramate change a state in a vera variable (other than creating a scene) so my PLEG in vera could react to someone coming close to a beacon or is veramate built to only react locally on the iphone  veramate scenes ?
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: veramate on December 22, 2014, 06:37:44 pm
Is there a way Veramate change a state in a vera variable (other than creating a scene) so my PLEG in vera could react to someone coming close to a beacon or is veramate built to only react locally on the iphone  veramate scenes ?

At the moment VeraMate will only react by triggering a scene.  These aren't "local", but will be run on the Vera box which can be used by PLEG...

The ability to trigger switches etc will be in a future release.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: Vodden on January 30, 2015, 11:41:22 pm
At the moment VeraMate will only react by triggering a scene.

So, If my iPhone goes out of range of the iBeacon, will it untrigger the scene that it is assigned to?  I want to use iBeacons to detect if I am home or not, and act accordingly.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: veramate on February 02, 2015, 12:47:08 pm
At the moment VeraMate will only react by triggering a scene.

So, If my iPhone goes out of range of the iBeacon, will it untrigger the scene that it is assigned to?  I want to use iBeacons to detect if I am home or not, and act accordingly.

No - there isn't a concept of "untriggering" a scene in Vera.  This would have to flip a switch, which in turn could trigger a scene, or, specify 2 different scenes to trigger entering and exiting the iBeacon range.

This could be a little tricky though depending on the size/layout of your flat.  If VeraMate thinks you are out of range when in reality the signal is just momentarily too weak, it might think you're out.   I'll be looking to enhance this in future versions to perhaps put a minimum wait time etc, although this could be done now (outside VeraMate) by installing a timer plugin that starts counting down, and is cancelled when it comes back in range.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: East on February 26, 2015, 05:55:44 am
I recently upgraded from the free version to the paid version and I find the voice commands a funny thing to use. It's a bit unfortunate that the app needs to be running to capture the voice commands.

Any change it will be possible to integrate veramate with homekit, so it will be possible to use Siri? It's possible to activate Siri in a always listening mode when it's plugged in and that will be awesome for my situation :)

---

I've also found a bug when a Geofence is set for a scene that no longer exist or the name has been changed in UI7. Vera still trying to trigger the scene when condition has been met and I didn't find it possible to delete the geofence without adding a scene back with the same name. This could be solved by having a list activated geofence triggers so it can be deleted easier.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: veramate on February 26, 2015, 06:32:30 am
I recently upgraded from the free version to the paid version and I find the voice commands a funny thing to use. It's a bit unfortunate that the app needs to be running to capture the voice commands.

Any change it will be possible to integrate veramate with homekit, so it will be possible to use Siri? It's possible to activate Siri in a always listening mode when it's plugged in and that will be awesome for my situation :)

Thanks for the support :)  It's extremely unfortunate the app needs to be open, but this is Apple restricting dev access.  HomeKit sounds like a great idea in essence, except it requires hardware support to be able to implement it.  This means Vera or the zwave devices need to support it first.  (I'm still investigating whether there are ways around this, but I haven't found anything yet).

I've also found a bug when a Geofence is set for a scene that no longer exist or the name has been changed in UI7. Vera still trying to trigger the scene when condition has been met and I didn't find it possible to delete the geofence without adding a scene back with the same name. This could be solved by having a list activated geofence triggers so it can be deleted easier.

Ok that's a new bug.  I will look to get it fixed.  (Changes to the UI are also planned to make this all a bit easier).
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: slajgaj on March 03, 2015, 05:23:30 am
Sometime VeraMate config save/restore for example Dropbox? 8)
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: veramate on March 03, 2015, 05:57:30 am
Sometime VeraMate config save/restore for example Dropbox? 8)

One of the next top items on the dev list :)
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: slajgaj on March 04, 2015, 09:43:35 am
in the meantime  some ideas, how can i restore the backup setting to other iphone/ipad?
 ;)
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: veramate on March 07, 2015, 04:46:01 am
in the meantime  some ideas, how can i restore the backup setting to other iphone/ipad?
 ;)

... Unfortunately, there isn't :(  The configuration is stored in the apple setting store, which means it can't easily be changed outside of the app.   There's a possibility of transferring the config backup file over to the other app, but that would require file access to the iPhone etc, and I haven't looked into whether it'd work at all.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: waltzer11 on March 09, 2015, 06:57:36 pm
Pressed and hold the scene button for 2 seconds as per instructions, they wiggle, then tap once and press "geofence". After that, it shows that all the scenes have check marks for both my wife's and my iPhones. (I guess by default). This means that all the scenes are activated either on entry or exit right? So I pressed the check marks and replace with an "x" mark for both our iPhone. still when either of us exit/enter the fence, some scenes are still triggered; arming the sensors, turning on lights during the day even though I have included the luup code " return luup.is_night():"This has been going on for over a week now and I have been trying my best to fix it but to no avail. Can someone help me out and tell me what I am doing wrong. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: veramate on March 10, 2015, 09:49:44 am
Pressed and hold the scene button for 2 seconds as per instructions, they wiggle, then tap once and press "geofence". After that, it shows that all the scenes have check marks for both my wife's and my iPhones. (I guess by default). This means that all the scenes are activated either on entry or exit right? So I pressed the check marks and replace with an "x" mark for both our iPhone. still when either of us exit/enter the fence, some scenes are still triggered; arming the sensors, turning on lights during the day even though I have included the luup code " return luup.is_night():"This has been going on for over a week now and I have been trying my best to fix it but to no avail. Can someone help me out and tell me what I am doing wrong. Thanks in advance.

The UI might be a little confusing (there is work on my dev list for this) -  the tick or cross specify what will happen when you press it.  EG, if you're seeing an X then the scene is activated (pressing the X will disable it).  The description on the map will tell you if it's enabled or not.

As for the luup.is_night(), you could try asking on the programming board if noone knows.  I've tried using that in the past as well, but never investigated where it actually gets the configuration for as to whether it's night or not - so I replaced that with triggers based on specific times.  You also need to make sure the LUUP is not on a trigger/schedule (as that won't be run via a GeoFence activation).
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: waltzer11 on March 10, 2015, 04:44:40 pm
Pressed and hold the scene button for 2 seconds as per instructions, they wiggle, then tap once and press "geofence". After that, it shows that all the scenes have check marks for both my wife's and my iPhones. (I guess by default). This means that all the scenes are activated either on entry or exit right? So I pressed the check marks and replace with an "x" mark for both our iPhone. still when either of us exit/enter the fence, some scenes are still triggered; arming the sensors, turning on lights during the day even though I have included the luup code " return luup.is_night():"This has been going on for over a week now and I have been trying my best to fix it but to no avail. Can someone help me out and tell me what I am doing wrong. Thanks in advance.

The UI might be a little confusing (there is work on my dev list for this) -  the tick or cross specify what will happen when you press it.  EG, if you're seeing an X then the scene is activated (pressing the X will disable it).  The description on the map will tell you if it's enabled or not.

As for the luup.is_night(), you could try asking on the programming board if noone knows.  I've tried using that in the past as well, but never investigated where it actually gets the configuration for as to whether it's night or not - so I replaced that with triggers based on specific times.  You also need to make sure the LUUP is not on a trigger/schedule (as that won't be run via a GeoFence activation).

thanks for your response Veramate. i had it backwards; i always thought that the checkmark means the scene is activated on entry/exit. yes the luup.is_night() is on a trigger so that when we are away and one of the window or door is forced open while the sensor is armed, lights will turn on but only at dark not during the daytime. i still have to learn how to trigger the buttons in multiswitch through PLEG and geofence. anyway you pointed my mistake. thanks.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: lingerba on March 10, 2015, 08:05:36 pm
@veramate

I just purchased your app for my wife's iPhone.  I like it so far.  I need to be able to make the geofence MUCH larger (~7 miles) for it to be of any use for me.  Is that some way to do that?  It seems like I am limited to about 1 mile right now.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: veramate on March 11, 2015, 09:29:34 am
I just purchased your app for my wife's iPhone.  I like it so far.  I need to be able to make the geofence MUCH larger (~7 miles) for it to be of any use for me.  Is that some way to do that?  It seems like I am limited to about 1 mile right now.

Glad you like it :)  I've been meaning to increase the max - I'll increase the max range in the 8.11 release.  I can see it being needed only in exceptional cases (from the norm), so at the moment it's not possible - the only way to add this is to have multiple fences around the area (perhaps on entry roads etc), that trigger scenes.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: lingerba on March 11, 2015, 09:36:23 am
I just purchased your app for my wife's iPhone.  I like it so far.  I need to be able to make the geofence MUCH larger (~7 miles) for it to be of any use for me.  Is that some way to do that?  It seems like I am limited to about 1 mile right now.

Glad you like it :)  I've been meaning to increase the max - I'll increase the max range in the 8.11 release.  I can see it being needed only in exceptional cases (from the norm), so at the moment it's not possible - the only way to add this is to have multiple fences around the area (perhaps on entry roads etc), that trigger scenes.

I would really appreciate it.  Do you know when you anticipate the release?  I thought about doing the multiple-fence setup but I can envision too many scenarios where that can get really complicated (purely based on where my house is located).  If that would be the only option, I could probably hash it out, it would just be much easier with a single larger geofence.  The app I used on my Android allows this and it works great.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: veramate on March 11, 2015, 09:40:49 am
I would really appreciate it.  Do you know when you anticipate the release?  I thought about doing the multiple-fence setup but I can envision too many scenarios where that can get really complicated (purely based on where my house is located).  If that would be the only option, I could probably hash it out, it would just be much easier with a single larger geofence.  The app I used on my Android allows this and it works great.

8.10 is waiting to be released with Apple which could be released early/mid next week.  (However based on history around an Apple event, it can even take longer - sure enough, even now most services with Apple are down !).  Which means it'd be likely a min of 2 weeks from now.  The joy of working with Apple.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: waltzer11 on March 12, 2015, 05:02:01 pm
Pressed and hold the scene button for 2 seconds as per instructions, they wiggle, then tap once and press "geofence". After that, it shows that all the scenes have check marks for both my wife's and my iPhones. (I guess by default). This means that all the scenes are activated either on entry or exit right? So I pressed the check marks and replace with an "x" mark for both our iPhone. still when either of us exit/enter the fence, some scenes are still triggered; arming the sensors, turning on lights during the day even though I have included the luup code " return luup.is_night():"This has been going on for over a week now and I have been trying my best to fix it but to no avail. Can someone help me out and tell me what I am doing wrong. Thanks in advance.

The UI might be a little confusing (there is work on my dev list for this) -  the tick or cross specify what will happen when you press it.  EG, if you're seeing an X then the scene is activated (pressing the X will disable it).  The description on the map will tell you if it's enabled or not.

As for the luup.is_night(), you could try asking on the programming board if noone knows.  I've tried using that in the past as well, but never investigated where it actually gets the configuration for as to whether it's night or not - so I replaced that with triggers based on specific times.  You also need to make sure the LUUP is not on a trigger/schedule (as that won't be run via a GeoFence activation).

hi Veramate, can you help me out here. i already linked my wife's iphone geofence to the attached scene so that when she exits the fence, button 2 of the multiswitch will turn off which in turn will activate some PLEG action to arm sensors (if we both leave). when i test the scene by clicking the "play" arrow, it works. but she left an hour ago and button 2 of the multiswitch is still on. thanks for your time. i inserted a lua code as per the attached picture.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: veramate on March 16, 2015, 08:28:58 am
hi Veramate, can you help me out here. i already linked my wife's iphone geofence to the attached scene so that when she exits the fence, button 2 of the multiswitch will turn off which in turn will activate some PLEG action to arm sensors (if we both leave). when i test the scene by clicking the "play" arrow, it works. but she left an hour ago and button 2 of the multiswitch is still on. thanks for your time. i inserted a lua code as per the attached picture.

That attached scene is activated on a trigger, correct?  What scene is hooked up to VeraMate's GeoFence, and are you sure the scene in VeraMate is set to be triggered on exit?  (Perhaps send a VeraMate screenshot to confirm that?)

If you have scenes to turn on/off the multiswitch, and VeraMate is triggering them on an exit/entry, then the scenes that are set to trigger when the switch flips to on/off should fire... I couldn't see a reason they wouldn't, unless the GeoFence isn't triggering properly (do you have the VeraMate notification the scene is being triggered by the fence)?

If you haven't seen it, there is a bit more details (not using a multiswitch, but same premise), on the FAQ:
http://www.veramate.com/faq/geofence#GeoFence-multi (http://www.veramate.com/faq/geofence#GeoFence-multi)
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: waltzer11 on March 16, 2015, 12:03:25 pm
hi Veramate, can you help me out here. i already linked my wife's iphone geofence to the attached scene so that when she exits the fence, button 2 of the multiswitch will turn off which in turn will activate some PLEG action to arm sensors (if we both leave). when i test the scene by clicking the "play" arrow, it works. but she left an hour ago and button 2 of the multiswitch is still on. thanks for your time. i inserted a lua code as per the attached picture.

That attached scene is activated on a trigger, correct?  What scene is hooked up to VeraMate's GeoFence, and are you sure the scene in VeraMate is set to be triggered on exit?  (Perhaps send a VeraMate screenshot to confirm that?)

If you have scenes to turn on/off the multiswitch, and VeraMate is triggering them on an exit/entry, then the scenes that are set to trigger when the switch flips to on/off should fire... I couldn't see a reason they wouldn't, unless the GeoFence isn't triggering properly (do you have the VeraMate notification the scene is being triggered by the fence)?

If you haven't seen it, there is a bit more details (not using a multiswitch, but same premise), on the FAQ:
http://www.veramate.com/faq/geofence#GeoFence-multi (http://www.veramate.com/faq/geofence#GeoFence-multi)

thanks VeraMate. i did not touch anything but the wife left this morning and it worked. the multiswitch button assigned to her turned off upon her exit at the fence. it's really behind my comprehension why it wasn't working for 2 weeks and all of a sudden TODAY this morning........what's going on. whatever is the reason, am just happy for now that it is working for the first time
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: RichardPHarvey on March 28, 2015, 03:03:08 pm
I just started my new Z-Wave system so I'm in learn mode, looking at everything I can to see how I'm going to implement this new system.  iPhone / iPad control is a key needed feature for me.  I loaded the free version on my iPad and as others have commented the flashing buttons are confusing and it seems to have a long lag time.  I'm also noticing that turning on/off my one installed switch with VeraMate is causing the switch itself to temporarily become un-reachable and causing an alarm in UI7.

Lastly, I'm confused with the versions and in-app purchases.  What are the differences between the three non-free versions, Premium, iPad and No Adds.  This is not explained at all anywhere I can find.
 
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: waltzer11 on April 07, 2015, 05:58:28 pm
hi Veramate, can you help me out here. i already linked my wife's iphone geofence to the attached scene so that when she exits the fence, button 2 of the multiswitch will turn off which in turn will activate some PLEG action to arm sensors (if we both leave). when i test the scene by clicking the "play" arrow, it works. but she left an hour ago and button 2 of the multiswitch is still on. thanks for your time. i inserted a lua code as per the attached picture.

That attached scene is activated on a trigger, correct?  What scene is hooked up to VeraMate's GeoFence, and are you sure the scene in VeraMate is set to be triggered on exit?  (Perhaps send a VeraMate screenshot to confirm that?)

If you have scenes to turn on/off the multiswitch, and VeraMate is triggering them on an exit/entry, then the scenes that are set to trigger when the switch flips to on/off should fire... I couldn't see a reason they wouldn't, unless the GeoFence isn't triggering properly (do you have the VeraMate notification the scene is being triggered by the fence)?

If you haven't seen it, there is a bit more details (not using a multiswitch, but same premise), on the FAQ:
http://www.veramate.com/faq/geofence#GeoFence-multi (http://www.veramate.com/faq/geofence#GeoFence-multi)

hi VeraMate, my geofence setup is not completely working; maybe you can clue me in what the problem is. let me start with just one of the problem for now. hopefully, this problem is related to the other ones and will resolve all of them (but i doubt it). here is the problem: when i am entering the fence, i get about 7 notifications in my iphone such as "activating scene xxxxxx" even if the scenes are not hooked up to VeraMate. you can see in the attached picture that the scene has a check mark not an "x". worse, it is even notifying me that a scene is activated on my entry even if i have deleted that scene a long time ago.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: integlikewhoa on April 07, 2015, 07:02:02 pm
The reason I like to also be able to make large fences is to cover the whole town. Example if I'm in town or away on vacation. After more then about a hour or 2's drive from my house it knows I'm not coming home.

I have the same thing setup when entering my vacation house at the Lake. When I enter town things like hot water heater and a/c's change pattern vs. when I'm out of town. I can leave the house go out on the river drive into town or what ever and it knows I'm still coming back home, but when I get say 50 miles or more away it knows to put the vacation house into away mode.

On this yes I can probley use a single or 2 roads as the lake doesn't have many entrances, but home near Los Angeles has many options and directions of travel. On my androids this works fine with what I believe is an unlimited size (or so I have yet to reach the max).
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate [Feat. GeoFencing/iBeacons/Voice Control/Watch & more]
Post by: joelc73 on December 11, 2015, 09:51:47 am
Does the VeraMate app have to be open for Geofencing to trigger a scene?
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate [Feat. GeoFencing/iBeacons/Voice Control/Watch & more]
Post by: veramate on December 11, 2015, 09:54:42 am
Pre iOS9, no.  But iOS9 has broken some functionality - VeraMate 10.2 (hopefully Apple will release in around 5 - 7 days), will fix this.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate 8 [Feat. GeoFencing, iBeacons, Voice Control, & more]
Post by: johnnyw55 on December 23, 2015, 09:58:00 pm
VeraMate currently knows about 7 different manufacturers, which can be scanned automatically, but it's easy to scan if VeraMate doesn't know about it.
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which 7 different manufactures are you referring to? I would really like to purchase some ibeacons.. Thanks for your help!

Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate [Feat. GeoFencing/iBeacons/Voice Control/Watch & more]
Post by: veramate on January 15, 2016, 07:53:29 am
Hmm I may have miscounted (or taken 2 of them out) - either way, there are 5 in the code now that I've tried to include the UUID for.

ESTIMOTE
GLIMWORM
KONTAKT
PARTICLE
ROXIMITY1

I should caveat this with, that I've only tested directly with Estimote.  I've had other users try others, but I haven't recorded that.  I'll try and keep a record in future for anyone who uses other manufacturers, so if you decide to get any, it'd be great to start a new thread with your experiences (which I'll document on the website).  And any UUID used for your manufacturer, let me know, and I'll add to the codebase.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate [Feat. GeoFencing/iBeacons/Voice Control/Watch & more]
Post by: cafri on December 06, 2017, 10:39:46 am
Does the VeraMate app have to be open for Geofencing to trigger a scene?

Pre iOS9, no.  But iOS9 has broken some functionality - VeraMate 10.2 (hopefully Apple will release in around 5 - 7 days), will fix this.

I use iPhone 6 with iOS 11.2 and VeraMate Premium 11.9.2.2.

I have managed to setup an iBeacon in VeraMate, but for some reason it triggers the scene only if VeraMate is in the foreground or background.
When I remove the app from the background, it doesn't trigger the scene.

In Settings, I have General --> Background App Refresh -- VeraMate set to On
and
Privacy --> Location Services -->  VerMate set to While Using the App

I am almost sure that also the VeraMate's GeoFencing scene triggering stopped in cases VeraMate is not in the background, a thing I am SURE was working in the past.

I know that Apple has changed something regarding Location Services settings in iOS 11, and I think the issue might be coming from the lack of selecting "Always" for VeraMate's Location Services.

Is there anyone who has VeraMate's GeoFencing / iBeacon working without the running in the background, with iOS 11?
Are there any plans to fix this?

Edit: Just noticed also others have issues with GeoFencing after upgrading to iOS 11. I really hope VeraMate will update his app soon.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate [Feat. GeoFencing/iBeacons/Voice Control/Watch & more]
Post by: jgrilo on February 19, 2018, 09:11:48 pm
Hey all, wanted to just check in and see if anyone knows if this was ever solved. Having the same issue on my iphone which just went to iOS 11

thanks!
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate [Feat. GeoFencing/iBeacons/Voice Control/Watch & more]
Post by: Don Phillips on February 20, 2018, 07:13:18 pm
The developer is not very active and I have not seen him post anything in months. Personally, I have used the iPhone Locator plug-in with great success.

From what I have read, the Vera iOS app also is hit or miss on geofencing.
Title: Re: Introduction to VeraMate [Feat. GeoFencing/iBeacons/Voice Control/Watch & more]
Post by: slajgaj on June 27, 2018, 09:47:33 am
https://www.techradar.com/news/you-may-lose-more-apple-watch-apps-when-watchos-5-rolls-out

watchOS 4.3.1 it displays a message that says, "The developer of this app needs to update it to improve its compatibility".

If you tap OK, it will still run the app though, which suggests Apple won't drop support when the official watchOS 4.3.1 upgrade rolls out.  Instead many are speculating the upcoming watchOS 5 will sound the death knell for those apps built using the oldest SDK for the watch.

Under IOS12 NOT WORKING the Prof. version, and the developer not very active.....