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Title: Development on hold
Post by: garrettwp on January 31, 2015, 01:50:48 pm
I'll keep this short  and sweet. All future development of AutHomation has been put on hold. If you have not already seen from previous posts, I am currently investigating using OpenHAB as my main automation and using Vera as the zwave controller.


- Garrett
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: BOFH on January 31, 2015, 01:58:50 pm
So will there be a AuthomationHD for OH in our future?
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: Tank on February 01, 2015, 09:30:13 am
I'm sorry to hear that.  The AutHomation app was one of the reasons I decided to stick with the Vera.

MCV will be in trouble with their Android users now.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: Kullematz on February 01, 2015, 09:38:15 am
Hopefully only on hold and not too long.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: capjay on February 01, 2015, 04:54:34 pm
Garret,

Thanks for the excellent effort you've put into AutHomation! I hope the hold doesn't go for too long!

Any reason for not releasing AutHomation 3.3.1.4 to the market? It seems to be solid enough so far?
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: garrettwp on February 03, 2015, 01:44:04 am
I have not posted the beta as there are some things left unfinished. One of them being the auto configuration portion of the app to incorporate UI6/UI7. I temporarily removed the UI5 auto configure to not cause any confusion when setting up. I do not want to push out the app with the unfinished bits.

- Garrett
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: garrettwp on February 03, 2015, 01:45:44 am
So will there be a AuthomationHD for OH in our future?

Not sure. The current state of the OH app is in need of a face lift and fixes. I posted in the google groups asking if there were any plans to update it to the material design standards. I may take a stab at helping out or at least help with fixing a few UI issues.

- Garrett
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: tedp on February 05, 2015, 07:55:14 pm
Thank you for all you work -- I'm sure the community appreciates everything you've done.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: Mike on February 06, 2015, 12:17:38 am
Sorry to hear this, Garrett, but thanks for the great work. I use the app multiple times a day, every day, and will continue to.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: mrv777 on February 06, 2015, 08:42:07 am
Sorry to hear this, Garrett, but thanks for the great work. I use the app multiple times a day, every day, and will continue to.

It is sad to see the development on this on hold  :(
Great job with the app though!  :)  Thank you for it.  It is my favorite for Android.
I hope someone will offer to continue it for you while your working on OH  ;D
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: joer. on February 11, 2015, 05:43:15 pm
Thanks for all of your work on AutHomation and continued support in the community.
I know without contributors like you Vera would of never gained the support it has, integration and usability!

if it makes any difference.... which it prob doesn't... I would be a paying customer  ;D
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: jimmy566 on February 11, 2015, 10:23:32 pm
Thanks for the work you've done. AutHomation is by far the best app for the Vera.

Will you be opening up the source?
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: conchordian on February 12, 2015, 01:30:16 am
Thanks for all your efforts.  It's a great app.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: mrv777 on February 13, 2015, 10:21:33 am
if it makes any difference.... which it prob doesn't... I would be a paying customer  ;D

+1
I paid for ImperiHome Pro and I would pay for yours too
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: infromatica on February 22, 2015, 05:15:21 pm
It is very sad words! Thank you for all of your work and support on Vera.
Your app is great!
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: EOppie on February 22, 2015, 05:41:21 pm
MCV will be in trouble with their Android users now.

 :)
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: zoot1612 on February 22, 2015, 11:26:54 pm
Damn, love that app  :)
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: CarlosB on February 23, 2015, 02:36:04 am
It is disheartening, yet understandable to see development on hold. Can't wait to see the fruits of your future endeavors as your app was the sole reason I chose Vera as my automation hub.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: pentium on February 26, 2015, 08:33:54 am
Thank you for everything.  I am watching vera fall apart at a rapid pace and I can't even imaging the frustration they have caused you.  Please know that we appreciate you efforts and wish you the absolute best in the future.  As many others have stated, we will be happy to follow.  Thank you!
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: dsgraham on February 26, 2015, 03:12:59 pm
I would like to echo the other statements here.  Your app is what helped me decide to stick with vera.  Would you be open to releasing your source code or putting it up on github for others to pick up and continue what you started?
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: garrettwp on February 27, 2015, 09:57:44 am
Right now I do not have plans to release the source code. Maybe in the future, but not at the moment.


- Garrett
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: NickTheGreat on February 27, 2015, 02:22:39 pm
Sorry to hear this.  Thanks for the app, though.  I really appreciate(d) it  :)
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: fede on February 28, 2015, 01:04:55 pm
Sorry to hear this, Garrett thanks a lot for the excellent work with AutHomation!
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: BOFH on February 28, 2015, 01:27:34 pm
I'm hoping Garrett restarts development on AuthomationHD as it's still my primary app on all Android devices.
If he devices to fully move to a different platform (eg OpenHab) all I can hope for is that he decides in open the source or finds a worthy successor to take over development as it would be a shame to let such an excellent product die. If Garrett decides to make an AuthomationHD for whichever platform he moves to that will be a strong draw for me to evaluate that platform.  8)

If/When development restarts, I hope he adds the ability to merge multiple Vera's into one like ImperiHome seems to do. I just added my Ui7 to the existing Ui5 one already in that app and it is showing both at the same time. Granted, I have some duplicate rooms and some duplicate camera's but I can now see all devices on both Vera's without having to switch between them. As in preparation for the Ui7 migration I have been adding all new devices to my Vera 3 running UI7 (Only if they cause issues will the be moved to the Vera 3 running Ui5) and that requires having multiple tabs open on my desktop or in AuthomationHD, swap between controllers.   
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: poisonsnak on March 02, 2015, 11:25:06 am
It's no longer in development but is it still possible to install the app?  I can't find it in the play store any more and the google drive apk link comes up with a terms of service violation.  It's a great app currently working on my G3 running lollipop so it should be great to use for the forseeable future.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: BOFH on March 10, 2015, 12:22:43 pm
The latest AuthomationHD beta is still available and runs pretty stable.

See the first post in the below thread, download and install it.

http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,25219.0.html
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: johnes on March 10, 2015, 02:23:45 pm
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh awesome.  Thanks a million for that.!
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: BOFH on March 10, 2015, 06:32:36 pm
You're welcome. Do realize it is a beta but it does work with Ui6/Ui7 MMS authentication. One thing, auto-configuration is switched off as I believe it was causing issues. So you have to set up the information for your Vera manually. Other than that it works pretty well and even supports the Multiswitch device. Garrett also implemented some different tile sizes but I'm not sure if all of that is 100% yet.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: johnes on March 10, 2015, 06:58:14 pm
Well, that beta is light years ahead of vera.  I just wonder why MCV never just bought that app and used it as their own.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: BOFH on March 10, 2015, 10:17:14 pm
Yup. It's one hell of an app. Since Garrett put development on hold and the one in the Google play store does not support UI7 I can understand why he removed it from the play store since all new Vera's come with UI7.

I'm very appreciative of the fact he left the beta version up and available.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: johnes on March 11, 2015, 12:44:26 am
Well, that actually makes a lot of sense... and it's been a relief to have the beta available.  Here's hoping it keeps on working...
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: poisonsnak on March 11, 2015, 12:00:39 pm
Thanks for that, I did not think to check the betas.  I just bought 4 VeraLites a couple weeks ago but they all came with UI5 so I guess I can count myself lucky.  Garrett's app is really fantastic.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: stylekyle on March 11, 2015, 01:13:12 pm
why not charge $20 bucks for the app and keep developing it on the side?  i'd pay for it... i'm sure others would as well.

i noticed its no longer in the google play store. :(
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: integlikewhoa on March 11, 2015, 01:24:08 pm
i noticed its no longer in the google play store. :(

The play store was always an old outdated version that didn't work with newer devices or ui6/7. The download has always been on here and was the latest update.

See here if you want to install the latest update.
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,25219.0.html
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: garrettwp on March 11, 2015, 02:11:38 pm
Let me clarify a few things. The reason I removed it from the app store is that it was an older version that did not support UI6/UI7 remote access. I did not feel to push out the last beta release due to unfinished portions of the app (specifically the auto configuration wizard which I had not finished the UI6/UI7 portion). I was getting countless emails from users requesting help that the app store version is not working with their UI6/UI7 Vera's. Why is it so hard to read the description of the app listing which states at the very top that Vera's with UI6/UI7 firmwares are not supported for remote access. Yet I get many emails a day asking for help or demanding that I post an update to support the latest firmware from Vera. So I removed the app for the play store listing and  will be leaving the link to the beta download in the forum which anyone can install from. I do not plan on removing the link.

The reason I do not put a price on the app is the very reason I put development on hold. I simply do not have the time and energy to put into the app. The very little free time that I have is to spend it with my other half, relax from the long hours I put into my day job and for the other little projects that I have accumulated over time. If I were to charge for the app, I would be obligated to provide support, development of features and bug fixes to justify their purchase. That is a lot of pressure. What amazes me is the amount of people that contact me demanding I add a feature, fix a bug, etc for an app that cost them nothing! To put it simply I am just burned out.

To put the icing on the cake, I have moved most of my stuff from Vera except the zwave devices over to OpenHAB. I have translated my ISY plugin for Vera over to OpenHAB which runs under node.js and communicates via mqtt. So all that my Vera is currently controlling is zwave. All automation and logic is not under OpenHAB and is running very solid. Will I remain on OpenHAB and rely on Vera to just act as a zwave gateway? That remains to be seen.

- Garrett
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: tcrote5516 on March 14, 2015, 04:48:28 pm
I have been using this app for years and just want to thank you for all your work.  This is the only one that has been easy and reliable enough for my wife to use.  With 70 devices in my network I would be lost without it.  I never took the time to thank you until today when I purchased a new phone, went to the app store and my heart sank :).....No AutHomation?????  (I downloaded it directly thanks to your links, but you scared the hell out of me for a second). 

Sorry to hear people gave you a tough time (but not surprised) but please know the VAST majority are enjoying your software in silence 365 day's a year!

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: TaterTot on June 03, 2015, 04:00:48 pm
Where can I download version 3.1.3.11 (the last version in the Google Play store)??

I see a download link for 3.1.3.10, but not 3.1.3.11

Also, when I try to download the older version (from here http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,8156.0.html) I get an error from Google...

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: integlikewhoa on June 04, 2015, 02:45:47 pm
Where can I download version 3.1.3.11 (the last version in the Google Play store)??

I see a download link for 3.1.3.10, but not 3.1.3.11

Also, when I try to download the older version (from here http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,8156.0.html) I get an error from Google...

Thanks in advance!

The latest version that works with UI7 is not the play store. you want to installed this one.

http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,25219.0.html
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: TaterTot on June 04, 2015, 02:49:15 pm
I want the version I posted. I do not have UI7...
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: integlikewhoa on June 04, 2015, 06:20:52 pm
I want the version I posted. I do not have UI7...

Alright I didn't see that version either. That's a really old and out dated version. Maybe someone will have it laying around.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: col8eral on June 21, 2015, 06:43:24 am
Its a shame its gone.  IMHO its the best mobile app out there.  I'll continue using until it breaks.  I'll stay with UI5 as long as I have to just to keep this app.  To echo what others are saying, i'd pay for the app if that what it takes to keep the development going.

Thanks for such a great app and all your hard work.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: BOFH on June 21, 2015, 10:51:02 am
That latest available beta works on both UI5 and UI7. I use it daily and it has a Ui5 and a UI7 Vera it can access. That latest beta, as posted in here is not UI7 only. It just adds support for Ui7 to the existing support for UI5.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: integlikewhoa on June 22, 2015, 07:45:05 pm
I'll stay with UI5 as long as I have to just to keep this app. 

Just to echo what BOFH said the latest version posted online here works with UI7 and UI5
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: col8eral on June 29, 2016, 08:00:31 pm
I have installed UI7 now this doesnt work for me.  I see people are saying it works for them.  Are there any setting I need to change?
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: col8eral on July 01, 2016, 10:40:00 am
I have managed to get it working with UI7 on my LAN but it doesnt work over mobile data.  I have checker password and user name and all is fine.  I have checked auto detect.  I have also tried selecting remote mode, but still no good.  I get a no network error,

What should the server settings be in the edit vera settings.

I have

vera-us-oem41,mios.com
vera-us-oem11,mios.com



Anyone have any thoughts how to correct this one.  Many thanks.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: silencery on July 01, 2016, 07:50:34 pm
I have managed to get it working with UI7 on my LAN but it doesnt work over mobile data.  I have checker password and user name and all is fine.  I have checked auto detect.  I have also tried selecting remote mode, but still no good.  I get a no network error,

What should the server settings be in the edit vera settings.

I have

vera-us-oem41,mios.com
vera-us-oem11,mios.com



Anyone have any thoughts how to correct this one.  Many thanks.

Those commas above should be dots, so it should be written as:

vera-us-oem41.mios.com
vera-us-oem11.mios.com

Remember to check off MMS (UI6) as well. Good luck!
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: col8eral on July 02, 2016, 10:06:42 am
Thank you.  Got it working.  Ticking the UI6 seemed to be the key.  everything seems to work fine.  The only think I found not to work is the remembering the dimmer percentage for lights.  Other than that great!
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: col8eral on July 03, 2016, 04:57:35 pm
Actually, I stand corrected.  I got the app remembering dimmer settings too.

Tis is a great app and despite no development for ages its still going strong!
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: sle118 on October 26, 2016, 10:04:11 pm
Right now I do not have plans to release the source code. Maybe in the future, but not at the moment.


- Garrett

I was wondering if you changed your mind yet? This would make a really nice github repo!

Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: mrv777 on October 27, 2016, 02:08:52 pm
Right now I do not have plans to release the source code. Maybe in the future, but not at the moment.


- Garrett

I was wondering if you changed your mind yet? This would make a really nice github repo!

You could try sending him a message in case he doesn't get notifications or looking for an email, as he hasn't been active here since April.

+1 to :)
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: col8eral on October 31, 2016, 11:15:17 am
Im still using this app.  Seems to still be working well after all this tiime.  Im using UI7.  I hope it lasts a lot longer as I preer this over all other apps that are available.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: BOFH on October 31, 2016, 01:32:35 pm
The website (http://www.authomation.net) is still up even though the registration expired in 2014. No contact info, however some DIGging unearthed garrett.power@gmail.com as a possibility.

Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: Aaron on November 08, 2016, 06:50:45 pm
Would be nice if Garrett open source'd the code... his pp is still WAY better than Imperihome.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: col8eral on January 27, 2018, 08:47:22 am
I still use this app it's way better than anything else on the market and that's even though it's not been developed for ages just goes to show how good it was originally
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: Priest on January 29, 2018, 03:11:02 pm
I am about to have to abandon using this app even though I love it.  I keep getting "failed to connect" error messages from it about 1/3 of the time now.  I have a bunch of stuff that is linked up as quick command icons on my phone and I have tasker actions going through it...but they keep failing now.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: snovvman on February 04, 2018, 12:17:07 pm
I still use this app it's way better than anything else on the market and that's even though it's not been developed for ages just goes to show how good it was originally

I agree.  I also have Imperihome installed, it is just more clunky.  Imperihome now requires a cloud account and has other undesirable traits.   

I am about to have to abandon using this app even though I love it.  I keep getting "failed to connect" error messages from it about 1/3 of the time now.  I have a bunch of stuff that is linked up as quick command icons on my phone and I have tasker actions going through it...but they keep failing now.

As of the past few weeks, I am getting the same error from the Internet. Local WiFi is fine, but Internet-based connection is now completely dead.  As I wrote above, I had Imperihome as a backup, but it is quickly becoming a bad option.  I was looking at the AutHomation's options, I wonder if they changed the relay(xx).mios.com servers?  Because it still works locally, I assume that it is just a server name issue?

If anyone knows the current relay(xx).mios.com server names, please do let us know.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: tedp on February 04, 2018, 12:52:11 pm
I am using
vera-us-oem-relay31.mios.com
vera-us-oem-relay12.mios.com

And things are working for me. I think i ran into the same problem you did.

I too cannot seem to find an app as good as authomation.

Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: snovvman on February 04, 2018, 01:06:24 pm
I am using
vera-us-oem-relay31.mios.com
vera-us-oem-relay12.mios.com

And things are working for me. I think i ran into the same problem you did.

I too cannot seem to find an app as good as authomation.

Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk

Thank you for your reply! [applauded]  Under the Manage Vera/Edit settings, there are three entries for servers.  Previously it was 41, 41, 11.  I changed it to 31, 31, 12, but it still does not work.  What is your port number?  Mine is 3480.

There used to be a way to look up the MIOS server currently associated with your Vera.  I tried to log into MIOS, but no joy.  Does anyone know how to do that?

I assume my relays are different than yours.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: tedp on February 04, 2018, 01:25:39 pm
I am using
vera-us-oem-relay31.mios.com
vera-us-oem-relay12.mios.com

And things are working for me. I think i ran into the same problem you did.

I too cannot seem to find an app as good as authomation.

Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk

Thank you for your reply! [applauded]  Under the Manage Vera/Edit settings, there are three entries for servers.  Previously it was 41, 41, 11.  I changed it to 31, 31, 12, but it still does not work.  What is your port number?  Mine is 3480.

There used to be a way to look up the MIOS server currently associated with your Vera.  I tried to log into MIOS, but no joy.  Does anyone know how to do that?

I assume my relays are different than yours.
The port # looks right. Why don't you login through getvera.com (ensure a remote connection) and see what shows up in your browser's URL bar. That should be the relay server.

Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: snovvman on February 04, 2018, 01:51:04 pm
The port # looks right. Why don't you login through getvera.com (ensure a remote connection) and see what shows up in your browser's URL bar. That should be the relay server.

Applaud again!  Thanks for that tip.  My relay is 51 and now AutHomation works again!  Do you know how to determine the secondary server (the second relay)?
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: HSD99 on February 04, 2018, 03:55:06 pm
The port # looks right. Why don't you login through getvera.com (ensure a remote connection) and see what shows up in your browser's URL bar. That should be the relay server.

Applaud again!  Thanks for that tip.  My relay is 51 and now AutHomation works again!  Do you know how to determine the secondary server (the second relay)?

The ALTUI app reports all the MIOS servers under the "Table Controllers" submenu.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: snovvman on February 04, 2018, 05:05:02 pm
The ALTUI app reports all the MIOS servers under the "Table Controllers" submenu.

Installed AltUI and found the servers.  Many thanks!  Applaud!
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: HSD99 on February 04, 2018, 05:31:18 pm
The ALTUI app reports all the MIOS servers under the "Table Controllers" submenu.

Installed AltUI and found the servers.  Many thanks!  Applaud!

Thanks! All applause should go to to amg0, the author of ALTUI. It's the Swiss Army knife for Vera. Spend some time looking through the menus---there are jewels everywhere.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: snovvman on February 04, 2018, 05:51:23 pm
Thanks! All applause should go to to amg0, the author of ALTUI. It's the Swiss Army knife for Vera. Spend some time looking through the menus---there are jewels everywhere.

Cheers!  A quick look around has already convinced me to pay for the subscription, though I am uncomfortable about are the pass-through remote access:  https://remotevera.000webhostapp.com/veralogin.php and https://vera-ui.strongcubedfitness.com/Veralogin.php
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: HSD99 on February 04, 2018, 07:10:12 pm
Thanks! All applause should go to to amg0, the author of ALTUI. It's the Swiss Army knife for Vera. Spend some time looking through the menus---there are jewels everywhere.

Cheers!  A quick look around has already convinced me to pay for the subscription, though I am uncomfortable about are the pass-through remote access:  https://remotevera.000webhostapp.com/veralogin.php and https://vera-ui.strongcubedfitness.com/Veralogin.php

You might check the ALTUI forum---I think those URLs are obsolete. I do remote access with a VPN, so I haven't looked at ALTUI's remote stuff.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: Priest on February 05, 2018, 05:26:29 pm
The ALTUI app reports all the MIOS servers under the "Table Controllers" submenu.

Installed AltUI and found the servers.  Many thanks!  Applaud!
I have AltUI installed... I dont really use it right now.  Where do you find them? I've spent some time looking today
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: HSD99 on February 05, 2018, 05:39:26 pm
The ALTUI app reports all the MIOS servers under the "More" ---> "Table Controllers" submenu.
Title: Re: Development on hold
Post by: Priest on February 05, 2018, 06:41:14 pm
The ALTUI app reports all the MIOS servers under the "More" ---> "Table Controllers" submenu.

Okay, got that.  Here  are the options in there.

RA_Server               vera-us-oem-relay31.mios.com
RA_Server_Back     vera-us-oem-relay12.mios.com
Server_Device       vera-us-oem-device12.mios.com
Server_Device_Alt   vera-us-oem-device11.mios.com

 In AutHomation I have 3 spots to put things in I had been using vera-us-oem-relay31.mios.com for everything which gave me about 30% to 50% up time..... what do I use for what to increase that?