The Vera Community forums have moved!

General => Connected Objects => Nest => Topic started by: bton on April 17, 2015, 05:37:04 pm

Title: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: bton on April 17, 2015, 05:37:04 pm
In the latest firmware update, Vera has new plugin for Nest.  It's called VeraConnect WWN.  It uses Work With Nest authorization scheme.  I tried it and got Authorization code from Nest.  However, I still got the error Vera Connect WWN Can't Detect Device.  Anyone successfully added the Nest thermostat using this new plugin?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: seanh on April 18, 2015, 12:23:23 am
I had a similar issue and quick call to support got it resolved and the new setup with nest is really nice.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: hmspain on April 18, 2015, 12:29:42 am
I had a similar issue and quick call to support got it resolved and the new setup with nest is really nice.

A phone call, or an Email?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: seanh on April 18, 2015, 01:18:20 am
Phone call has always been quicker response for me.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: j3390659 on April 18, 2015, 10:56:19 am
I upgraded to the latest firmware on my Vera Edge.

I am able to have it work after 2 attempts.

Remember to refresh your browser after you key in the PIN from WWN.

Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: bton on April 20, 2015, 03:53:01 pm
I had a similar issue and quick call to support got it resolved and the new setup with nest is really nice.

Do you know what they did in your system?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: hmspain on April 20, 2015, 06:05:06 pm
I had a similar issue and quick call to support got it resolved and the new setup with nest is really nice.

Do you know what they did in your system?

I asked, and got the impression he didn't want to share.  I was asking so I could simply do it next time.  I tried prompting him with /var/log/cmh log files? ... and got the impression I was headed for "You hacked your Vera, no support for you!".

Perhaps there are tmp files you can remove, but I suspect they just rip out log files.  I don't mind calling them to do the upgrade as long as they are responsive.

I'm looking forward to the NEXT Vera that has sufficient disk space...
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: jwwilhelm on April 24, 2015, 10:01:37 am
I've got the thermostat added, authenticated, and showing up in the UI.  The UI displays the correct current setpoint and current tempterature; however, when I try to change the setpoint, I get an error stating that the "Temperature F value is too low".  I get this even when trying to set the temp to 70 deg F which I'm pretty sure should be an appropriate setpoint.  No luck with support yet.  Has anyone else had this issue?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: CudaNet on April 24, 2015, 03:52:14 pm
So I take it that WWN doesn't include their Protect devices. I upgraded to UI7 this morning and noticed the loss of Watou's plugin for the stat but sure enough the Protects are still intact - albeit I have no idea if they still work.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: hmspain on April 24, 2015, 04:10:59 pm
So I take it that WWN doesn't include their Protect devices. I upgraded to UI7 this morning and noticed the loss of Watou's plugin for the stat but sure enough the Protects are still intact - albeit I have no idea if they still work.

My understanding is that WWN (what an odd acronym "Works With Nest" sigh) logs into your nest.com account and if that account has your Protect(s) registered, they will show up in Vera.

All five of my Protects went offline when I upgraded my router.  They all had to be re-added to my Nest account.  Meantime, Vera though all five Protects were just fine.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: watou on April 24, 2015, 04:18:26 pm
So I take it that WWN doesn't include their Protect devices. I upgraded to UI7 this morning and noticed the loss of Watou's plugin for the stat but sure enough the Protects are still intact - albeit I have no idea if they still work.

You're saying that not only did Vera write a new Nest plugin (instead of fix/document how I could make mine look good under UI7), but they also disabled/removed part/all of mine from existing users? Wow. If true, what a sad mess.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: CudaNet on April 24, 2015, 04:26:24 pm
Ah, there you go... I couldn't tell if they were online or offline as I'm new to this whole UI7 thing. Thanks for the info...

So I take it that WWN doesn't include their Protect devices. I upgraded to UI7 this morning and noticed the loss of Watou's plugin for the stat but sure enough the Protects are still intact - albeit I have no idea if they still work.

My understanding is that WWN (what an odd acronym "Works With Nest" sigh) logs into your nest.com account and if that account has your Protect(s) registered, they will show up in Vera.

All five of my Protects went offline when I upgraded my router.  They all had to be re-added to my Nest account.  Meantime, Vera though all five Protects were just fine.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: Ramias on April 25, 2015, 05:59:53 pm
Is anybody using this with the Envisalink Alarm module (In my case, to a DSC but that may not matter).

I'm seeing compatibility issues.

http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,31953.0.html
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: flux103 on April 26, 2015, 03:23:14 pm
I have the WWN plugin installed and everything but fan mode and temperature set point work. when changing the setpoint i also get the error "Temperature F value is too low". I cannot change the fan mode. Hopefully there is a fix for this as why would one want a thermostat that you cannot change your setpoint from your automation controller?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: bton on April 27, 2015, 01:42:01 pm
I've got the thermostat added, authenticated, and showing up in the UI.  The UI displays the correct current setpoint and current tempterature; however, when I try to change the setpoint, I get an error stating that the "Temperature F value is too low".  I get this even when trying to set the temp to 70 deg F which I'm pretty sure should be an appropriate setpoint.  No luck with support yet.  Has anyone else had this issue?

I got same issue.  In addition to that, setting temp from the plugin does not have affect on the Nest.  It does not change at all.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: hmspain on April 27, 2015, 01:46:42 pm
I've got the thermostat added, authenticated, and showing up in the UI.  The UI displays the correct current setpoint and current tempterature; however, when I try to change the setpoint, I get an error stating that the "Temperature F value is too low".  I get this even when trying to set the temp to 70 deg F which I'm pretty sure should be an appropriate setpoint.  No luck with support yet.  Has anyone else had this issue?

I got same issue.  In addition to that, setting temp from the plugin does not have affect on the Nest.  It does not change at all.

Same here; annoying, but not a show stopper since I only use the Vera thermostat to set Home and Away.  You would think that with all the fuss about killing the neat 3rd party app and replacing it with a Vera native app, it would at least ... well, work!
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: jwwilhelm on May 19, 2015, 09:46:53 am


I've got the thermostat added, authenticated, and showing up in the UI.  The UI displays the correct current setpoint and current tempterature; however, when I try to change the setpoint, I get an error stating that the "Temperature F value is too low".  I get this even when trying to set the temp to 70 deg F which I'm pretty sure should be an appropriate setpoint.  No luck with support yet.  Has anyone else had this issue?

I got same issue.  In addition to that, setting temp from the plugin does not have affect on the Nest.  It does not change at all.

Same here; annoying, but not a show stopper since I only use the Vera thermostat to set Home and Away.  You would think that with all the fuss about killing the neat 3rd party app and replacing it with a Vera native app, it would at least ... well, work!

I have no idea what they did, but Vera support was able to take care of this issue remotely.  I can now change the set point.  I did run into another issue where I cannot change the set point when the thermostat is in auto away mode (which is almost always the mode it is in when I want to change the set point on my way home from a weekend trip).  As a crutch, I can force it into manual away mode and back to home mode.  Support has notified me that this issue has been submitted to the development team.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: kalex1114 on June 16, 2015, 07:15:23 pm
Stupid question but is this only for UI7?  or will it work on UI5?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: redloro on June 27, 2015, 05:00:44 pm
Has anyone been able to get this to work with a new VeraEdge? Got my first Vera yesterday and can't get this damn thing to work. Continue to get errors with authorization and not being able to find the device. Horrible first time user experience.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: andreimios on July 03, 2015, 10:56:57 am
Hi all,

We didn't expected but the last firmware upgrade broke the libraries used by WWN plugin. We found an workaround until we fix this issue but please note the following:

- This workaround is not fully tested. It worked on every test I made but I cannot guarantee that this solution is bug free until we run some more tests.
- Using this workaround will disable the new added Digest Authentication. You will no longer be able to use it.

If you chose to use this workaround, please copy paste the following code in "Apps/Develop Apps/Test Luup Code", hit "GO" button, reload the engine and authorize the plugin.

Code: [Select]
os.execute("opkg install http://downloads.openwrt.org/barrier_breaker/14.07-rc3/ramips/mt7620a/packages/libcurl_7.36.0-1_ramips_24kec.ipk")
os.execute("opkg install http://downloads.openwrt.org/barrier_breaker/14.07-rc3/ramips/mt7620a/packages/curl_7.36.0-1_ramips_24kec.ipk")
os.execute("opkg install http://downloads.openwrt.org/barrier_breaker/14.07-rc3/ramips/mt7620a/packages/libpolarssl_1.3.7-1_ramips_24kec.ipk")

In order to revert the changes(for enabling Digest authentication) you can use the following code in "Test Luup Code" :

Code: [Select]
os.execute("opkg remove --force-depends libpolarssl")
os.execute("opkg remove --force-depends curl")
os.execute("opkg remove --force-depends libcurl")
os.execute("opkg update")
os.execute("opkg install libpolarssl")
os.execute("opkg install curl")
os.execute("opkg install libcurl")


We are sorry for the inconvenience, we are working to provide you a fix as soon as possible.
Thank you for understating!

Best regards,

- Andrei -
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: dubbedout on July 03, 2015, 07:17:37 pm
Hi all,

We didn't expected but the last firmware upgrade broke the libraries used by WWN plugin. We found an workaround until we fix this issue but please note the following:

- This workaround is not fully tested. It worked on every test I made but I cannot guarantee that this solution is bug free until we run some more tests.
- Using this workaround will disable the new added Digest Authentication. You will no longer be able to use it.

If you chose to use this workaround, please copy paste the following code in "Apps/Develop Apps/Test Luup Code", hit "GO" button, reload the engine and authorize the plugin.

Code: [Select]
os.execute("opkg install http://downloads.openwrt.org/barrier_breaker/14.07-rc3/ramips/mt7620a/packages/libcurl_7.36.0-1_ramips_24kec.ipk")
os.execute("opkg install http://downloads.openwrt.org/barrier_breaker/14.07-rc3/ramips/mt7620a/packages/curl_7.36.0-1_ramips_24kec.ipk")
os.execute("opkg install http://downloads.openwrt.org/barrier_breaker/14.07-rc3/ramips/mt7620a/packages/libpolarssl_1.3.7-1_ramips_24kec.ipk")

In order to revert the changes(for enabling Digest authentication) you can use the following code in "Test Luup Code" :

Code: [Select]
os.execute("opkg remove --force-depends libpolarssl")
os.execute("opkg remove --force-depends curl")
os.execute("opkg remove --force-depends libcurl")
os.execute("opkg update")
os.execute("opkg install libpolarssl")
os.execute("opkg install curl")
os.execute("opkg install libcurl")


We are sorry for the inconvenience, we are working to provide you a fix as soon as possible.
Thank you for understating!

Best regards,

- Andrei -
This code doesn't work on my VeraEdge.  I'm stuck with "Vera Connect WWN : Invalid or missing TOKEN! Please go to 'Authorize' tab and authorize VeraConnect once again!" no matter how many times I've gone through the process it doesn't work.  I removed all MIOS connections from Nest, tried to re-authorize and it doesn't work.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: skr25 on July 03, 2015, 10:16:28 pm
Thanks. This workaround is working for me.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: erikbaar on July 05, 2015, 11:07:09 pm
Worked for me...thanks for posting. 
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: andreimios on July 06, 2015, 02:20:37 am
@dubbedout

Please submit a support ticket and my colleagues will help you with this.

Best Regards,

- Andrei -
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: dlca1 on July 06, 2015, 07:25:02 am
Stupid question but is this only for UI7?  or will it work on UI5?

I have the same question. Does anybody know if this is ui7 only?

thanks
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: andreimios on July 06, 2015, 08:01:04 am
Hi dlca1,

Stupid question but is this only for UI7?  or will it work on UI5?

I have the same question. Does anybody know if this is ui7 only?

thanks

Last firmware upgrade included also an OpenWRT update but only for VeraEdge so the plugin should be broken only on these gateways.

Best Regards,

- Andrei -
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: kalex1114 on July 07, 2015, 11:16:34 am
Hi dlca1,

Stupid question but is this only for UI7?  or will it work on UI5?

I have the same question. Does anybody know if this is ui7 only?

thanks

Last firmware upgrade included also an OpenWRT update but only for VeraEdge so the plugin should be broken only on these gateways.

Best Regards,

- Andrei -

answer wasn't clear. is this UI7 only or will it work on UI5?  I called support and was told that its only for UI7 devices
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: mostlychris on July 07, 2015, 02:28:50 pm
I used the workaround on my veraedge and it authenticated again.  Took me a couple of days to find this post and know what to do.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: Mg9H on July 08, 2015, 02:08:13 am
This works for me. Thanks!

Hi all,

We didn't expected but the last firmware upgrade broke the libraries used by WWN plugin. We found an workaround until we fix this issue but please note the following:

- This workaround is not fully tested. It worked on every test I made but I cannot guarantee that this solution is bug free until we run some more tests.
- Using this workaround will disable the new added Digest Authentication. You will no longer be able to use it.

If you chose to use this workaround, please copy paste the following code in "Apps/Develop Apps/Test Luup Code", hit "GO" button, reload the engine and authorize the plugin.

Code: [Select]
os.execute("opkg install http://downloads.openwrt.org/barrier_breaker/14.07-rc3/ramips/mt7620a/packages/libcurl_7.36.0-1_ramips_24kec.ipk")
os.execute("opkg install http://downloads.openwrt.org/barrier_breaker/14.07-rc3/ramips/mt7620a/packages/curl_7.36.0-1_ramips_24kec.ipk")
os.execute("opkg install http://downloads.openwrt.org/barrier_breaker/14.07-rc3/ramips/mt7620a/packages/libpolarssl_1.3.7-1_ramips_24kec.ipk")

In order to revert the changes(for enabling Digest authentication) you can use the following code in "Test Luup Code" :

Code: [Select]
os.execute("opkg remove --force-depends libpolarssl")
os.execute("opkg remove --force-depends curl")
os.execute("opkg remove --force-depends libcurl")
os.execute("opkg update")
os.execute("opkg install libpolarssl")
os.execute("opkg install curl")
os.execute("opkg install libcurl")


We are sorry for the inconvenience, we are working to provide you a fix as soon as possible.
Thank you for understating!

Best regards,

- Andrei -
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: dubbedout on July 08, 2015, 06:38:49 pm
@dubbedout

Please submit a support ticket and my colleagues will help you with this.

Best Regards,

- Andrei -

Andrei,
     I submitted a support ticket on July 6th, still haven't heard back.  What's the normal turn around time on support tickets?

Thanks.

Edit:  I got a response shortly after posting this.  All is well with my WWN plugin now!
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: andreimios on July 10, 2015, 03:11:15 am
Hi all,

A new plugin version, v 0.21 is now available. This version should fix the authentication issue on VeraEdge gateways. You can wait for the plugin to auto-update or you can force it by clicking on "Update App" button from "Apps/My Apps/VeraConnect WWN - Details".

Please let me know if you have any issues after updating the plugin.

All the Bests,

- Andrei -
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: ehillis on July 10, 2015, 06:07:13 am
@mcv.andrei

This fixed the WWN issue with authorization. However, I had to uninstall the old one and reinstall the new one to get it to work. Thanks.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: bigmonkey70 on July 10, 2015, 12:24:27 pm
Anyone has issue with this new v0.21 on the UI7 1.7.619 on Vera 3?
My unit auto update overnight and now stuck at: "Vera Connect WWN : Starting up..."
I uninstalled and reinstall the plugin, Authorization said :PIN Code was successfully saved".... but no thermostat device create and stucked at Starting up...

Reboot Vera .. still not working

Submitted ticket to Tech Support
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: MNB on July 10, 2015, 04:38:46 pm
Anyone has issue with this new v0.21 on the UI7 1.7.619 on Vera 3?
My unit auto update overnight and now stuck at: "Vera Connect WWN : Starting up..."
I uninstalled and reinstall the plugin, Authorization said :PIN Code was successfully saved".... but no thermostat device create and stucked at Starting up...

@ bigmonkey70, I too have v0.21 plugin installed and am continuously having "Vera Connect WWN : Starting up..." being displayed in the top status bar. I have not reinstalled anything as of yet therefore my previously created Nest devices are still present. What I haven't done is verify that they are functioning correctly. Did you get any help from your service request? Mike

Update: Verified that my thermostat device is not functioning in as much when I change the modes from Off to Cool On or Heat On the selection takes some time process (spiraling progress indicator) and then doesn't change from the original Off condition
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: seanh on July 11, 2015, 01:20:03 am
Same issue as MNB and Big Monkey70 - App auto-updated and now stuck on my veralite with latest firmware.  Didnt have an issue before the auto-update.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: anyra on July 11, 2015, 06:27:56 pm
Same issue here. Always "Starting up" and the plugin doesn't work o a Vera 3 with latest firmware 1.7.619
Please help !!!
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: dgold21 on July 11, 2015, 06:55:52 pm
Mine started doing this yesterday too...it was working fine before that as far as I know.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: Mg9H on July 12, 2015, 12:47:01 am
Mine also is now saying "Starting up" and the text stays there...

Mine started doing this yesterday too...it was working fine before that as far as I know.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: ascari on July 12, 2015, 01:26:04 pm
Same issue :(
Vera Connect WWN : Starting up...
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: MNB on July 12, 2015, 03:28:11 pm
With the various appends it appears that the new plugin has problems... Anyone from VERA Inc would like to a.) acknowledge that there is a problem and b.) propose a fix that we might be able to use our NEST products again?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: avatar42 on July 12, 2015, 06:25:02 pm
Added new Nest to my Vera 3 yesterday and getting the hang on starting up as well. My Nest appears to be working otherwise. LuaUPnP.log says:
LuaUPnP.log:50  07/12/15 17:17:16.149   luup_log:81: (Vera Connect WWN)::(Startup) : Initiating... <0x2c1ab680>
LuaUPnP.log:50  07/12/15 17:17:16.280   luup_log:81: (Vera Connect WWN)::(getInfos) : Debug mode disabled. <0x2c1ab680>
LuaUPnP.log:50  07/12/15 17:17:16.281   luup_log:81: (Vera Connect WWN)::(getInfos) : POLLING_RATE = 1 <0x2c1ab680>
LuaUPnP.log:50  07/12/15 17:17:16.468   luup_log:81: (Vera Connect WWN)::(getInfos) : Temperature Scale is = f <0x2c1ab680>
LuaUPnP.log:50  07/12/15 17:17:16.469   luup_log:81: (Vera Connect WWN)::(checkPackageVersion) : Verifying...  <0x2c1ab680>
LuaUPnP.log:06  07/12/15 17:17:17.140   Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 27 service: urn:demo-ted-striker:serviceId:PingSensor1
variable: CurrentFailureCount was: 0 now: 0 #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:(nil)/NONE duplicate:1 <0x2d1ab680>
LuaUPnP.log:50  07/12/15 17:17:17.907   luup_log:81: (Vera Connect WWN)::(checkPackageVersion) : Updating libcurl library...  <0x2c1ab
680>
LuaUPnP.log:50  07/12/15 17:17:19.786   luup_log:81: (Vera Connect WWN)::(checkPackageVersion) : Updating libcurl curl... <0x2c1ab680>

LuaUPnP.log:01  07/12/15 17:17:19.843   LuaInterface::CallFunction_Startup-1 device 81 function VeraConnectWWNStartup failed [string "
module("L_VeraConnectWWN1", package.seeall)..."]:158: attempt to index local 'version' (a nil value) <0x2c1ab680>
LuaUPnP.log:01  07/12/15 17:17:19.844   LuImplementation::StartLua running startup code for 81 I_VeraConnectWWN1.xml failed <0x2c1ab68
0>

Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: bigmonkey70 on July 13, 2015, 08:21:02 am
I got a reply back from Customer care early this morning and asked me to log back in the unit and Authorize again within the plugin.
I happened to check the apps and Vera, Inc released an updated version v0.22 ...
this version 0.22 works now.  After install and authorized, I had to reload the LUUP and refresh browser to get it working and created thermostat/humidity devices.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: ascari on July 13, 2015, 11:12:21 am
Big thx it's works :)
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: anyra on July 13, 2015, 11:14:46 am
Yep, working again Thx
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: sleepyghost on July 13, 2015, 03:06:48 pm
Has anyone else noticed that the WWN plugin does not detect when the thermostat is in 'Auto Away'?  This is a difficult thing to catch, because in order to reproduce it, you have to wait until the nest is in the Auto away mode, as opposed to manual away. 

I am attempting to use the auto away to trigger other scenes, like making sure lights and other things are turned off.  The plugin detects when it is in home, or manual away without issue.  However, when it falls into auto away, on the dashboard there is no temperature readout, no humidity readout, and the Home / Away status is blank.  While in Auto Away - if you go into the Thermostat, Humidity, or Home/Away  "page" (without operating any of the switches or settings) - only then is there a readout. 

Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: JS007 on August 17, 2015, 12:30:15 am
has this feature been implemented in vera edge ui7 for the nest thermostat gen 2, I have a fan in one of our vents and would like to activate when heat is on via pleg to a plug module, but before I buy it, want to make sure will work with vera

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26415239/nest-api-when-is-thermostat-heating-or-cooling
-----------------------------------------
As of May 2015, the Nest API now officially reports the hvac_state property. The value will be one of either 'heating','cooling' or 'off'.

    New fields in the data model: hvac_state. You'll use hvac_state to learn if the home HVAC system is actively heating, cooling or is off.
----------------------------------------

Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: JS007 on August 17, 2015, 01:04:33 am
So I take it that WWN doesn't include their Protect devices. I upgraded to UI7 this morning and noticed the loss of Watou's plugin for the stat but sure enough the Protects are still intact - albeit I have no idea if they still work.

I added a protect gen 2 today to vera edge, looks like working

it created two device automatically  'WWN Smoke - roomname' and 'WWN CO - roomname'

only issue I noticed so far when setting up alerts was that both devices say "is armed and detects smoke", "is armed and stops detecting smoke", assuming that is a typo for the CO device and it should say 'CO' rather then 'smoke'

that said I have not tested the actual device with smoke or co to set off the alarm, but they look like working to me
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: JS007 on August 18, 2015, 01:02:02 pm
sent two support tickets for the above questions on Nest thermostat 'hvac_state' and issue with protect 2 showing co device as smoke device

well respond here with what I hear back

.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: deancrowe on August 18, 2015, 02:15:21 pm
How do I get the WWN plugin to display the temp in degrees Celsius instead of Farenheit?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: JS007 on August 27, 2015, 10:46:06 am
looks like it's good I waited, looks like nest thermostat gen 3 around the corner

http://www.droid-life.com/2015/08/26/nest-3rd-gen/
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: hmspain on August 27, 2015, 10:51:51 am
looks like it's good I waited, looks like nest thermostat gen 3 around the corner

http://www.droid-life.com/2015/08/26/nest-3rd-gen/

Love to see Nest catch up with Ecobee and support remote sensors!
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: swfire271 on August 27, 2015, 11:17:53 am
Has anyone had issues with the WWN plugin where it keeps 'freezing' or going unresponsive?  Have to go into the thermometer and reload the engine to get it to start working properly again and communicating with Vera?  Wouldn't say it happens daily to me, but probably every 2-3 days I have to reload the engine to get the proper temps and thermostat settings, home vs away, etc. to all function properly.  Kind've frustrating really.....
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: JS007 on September 02, 2015, 08:37:10 am
looks like the gen 3 thermostat is now available for pre-order, just ordered on Amazon

also got a response about the above two issues, they have forwarded both on to the developers to see about getting implemented
Title: hmspain
Post by: hmspain on September 02, 2015, 10:55:36 am
looks like the gen 3 thermostat is now available for pre-order, just ordered on Amazon

also got a response about the above two issues, they have forwarded both on to the developers to see about getting implemented

My Nest 3 shipped this morning.  I ordered directly from Nest; Amazon was not listing it yesterday :-).
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: theroefam on September 02, 2015, 06:48:12 pm
Has anyone had issues with the WWN plugin where it keeps 'freezing' or going unresponsive?  Have to go into the thermometer and reload the engine to get it to start working properly again and communicating with Vera?  Wouldn't say it happens daily to me, but probably every 2-3 days I have to reload the engine to get the proper temps and thermostat settings, home vs away, etc. to all function properly.  Kind've frustrating really.....

Looks like exactly what I'm seeing.  Haven't tried reloading the engine but all my reading at not correct (temp, set, humidity, home/away.)

Started seeing this a couple weeks ago
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: zolakk on September 03, 2015, 02:00:03 pm
I've noticed that the plugin rarely seems to show the correct current temperature values for me. For example, Vera currently shows the current temperature as 75 and the setpoint at 75 (my overnight setting) but my actual nest unit and the nest website shows current at 78 with set point at 80 (my daytime setting). I understand a bit of update lag, but the change in setpoints happened several hours ago. I guess it's possible it's not updating at all too and it just happened to be correct for the time when I checked it sometimes.. after all a broken clock is right twice a day
Title: Re: hmspain
Post by: JS007 on September 03, 2015, 03:58:30 pm
looks like the gen 3 thermostat is now available for pre-order, just ordered on Amazon

also got a response about the above two issues, they have forwarded both on to the developers to see about getting implemented

My Nest 3 shipped this morning.  I ordered directly from Nest; Amazon was not listing it yesterday :-).

was gonna change my order, but looks like Amazon changed from pre-order to will arrive on Monday now, still in unshipped status, so guessing they are still waiting to get them in, but will just leave as is, Monday is soon enough for me
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: JS007 on September 03, 2015, 04:01:20 pm
Has anyone had issues with the WWN plugin where it keeps 'freezing' or going unresponsive?  Have to go into the thermometer and reload the engine to get it to start working properly again and communicating with Vera?  Wouldn't say it happens daily to me, but probably every 2-3 days I have to reload the engine to get the proper temps and thermostat settings, home vs away, etc. to all function properly.  Kind've frustrating really.....

I had my network go down and afterward when went into web page had to do a reload Luup to get NEST back, hopefully that was just a fluke though
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: lemrock on September 04, 2015, 10:30:42 pm
I'll ask this question again since I have not seen an answer. Does the Works With Nest Plugin work with UI5?  The plugin page says it works with all platforms but I'm not sure if that's true. I'm on UI5/Vera 3 but after downloading the plugin all I get on the display is "Vera Connect WWN : Starting up..." and no device created. Any help is appreciated.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: JS007 on September 08, 2015, 05:25:48 pm
my nest 3 is working good so far

other then I already experienced my first outage, about 4 hours with the goggle cloud being down

I definitely will not be buying the nest cam, they need to add a local hub and keep it local like vera
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: hmspain on September 08, 2015, 07:54:57 pm
my nest 3 is working good so far

other then I already experienced my first outage, about 4 hours with the goggle cloud being down

I definitely will not be buying the nest cam, they need to add a local hub and keep it local like vera

My Nest Gen3 is working (Nest server outages aside).  The Home/Away device does not appear to work on it; still debugging.

My two big beefs are;

1) The WWN thermostat is set in .5 degree increments.  Why they chose to make it change in .5 degree increments I have no idea, but you CAN'T set a Nest that way.  I'm puzzled how this made it past initial testing...
2) The WWN Home/Away device is an ON/OFF SWITCH!  Good Lord, even the house modes plugin has buttons for each mode...

Quick edit... After this last upgrade, I tried removing WWN app and then re-installed it.  No big deal, and the Home/Away now has buttons!  Home/Away/Auto-Away  It seems that Auto-Away required a refresh.

The thermostat still changes in .5 degree increments, but at least no error is reported.  Like so many programmers, the solution is to redirect the error message to NULL...LOL.

Another quick edit... it appears you CAN'T set a temperature in WWN via a scene.  I'll have to report that one...
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: ascari on September 09, 2015, 05:27:00 pm
My Nest with the last update vera doesn't work now :'(
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: hmspain on September 09, 2015, 05:44:31 pm
My Nest with the last update vera doesn't work now :'(

It may sound drastic, but try removing the WWN add-on and re-adding it.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: ascari on September 09, 2015, 05:53:40 pm
I have the same problem.

Now I can Authorith Nest.

Backup restore but I can change T? again.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: JS007 on September 09, 2015, 06:29:43 pm
when nest server is down, vera says unauthorized, not sure if that is case here, but noticed that during nest outage, not the best error message for site down
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: ascari on September 10, 2015, 03:05:14 am
Now it's ok.


But I can change T? in scene like hmspain

My solution I have add the line :

luup.call_action("urn:upnp-org:serviceId:TemperatureSetpoint1","SetCurrentSetpoint",{NewCurrentSetpoint=MyTEmperature},MyDevice)
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: hmspain on September 10, 2015, 05:51:03 am
Now it's ok.


But I can change T? in scene like hmspain

My solution I have add the line :

luup.call_action("urn:upnp-org:serviceId:TemperatureSetpoint1","SetCurrentSetpoint",{NewCurrentSetpoint=MyTEmperature},MyDevice)

Excellent suggestion, thank you!

The LUUP code:

local MyTemperature=78
local MyDevice=1043
luup.call_action("urn:upnp-org:serviceId:TemperatureSetpoint1","SetCurrentSetpoint",{NewCurrentSetpoint=MyTemperature},MyDevice)

executes OK, but the thermostat won't budge.  What am I missing?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: anyra on September 10, 2015, 11:44:17 am
Another quick edit... it appears you CAN'T set a temperature in WWN via a scene.  I'll have to report that one...

I have this issue since the beginning, and my workaround in UI7 is go to the Advance editor of the scene and add the action manually as SetCurrentSetpoint and the temp value you like.

BTW my thermostat is the Nest Gen2 and for the rest the plugin is working fine, but it really bother me that I cannot set the temperature though the scene wizard
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: hmspain on September 10, 2015, 11:59:21 am
Another quick edit... it appears you CAN'T set a temperature in WWN via a scene.  I'll have to report that one...

I have this issue since the beginning, and my workaround in UI7 is go to the Advance editor of the scene and add the action manually as SetCurrentSetpoint and the temp value you like.

BTW my thermostat is the Nest Gen2 and for the rest the plugin is working fine, but it really bother me that I cannot set the temperature though the scene wizard

It may be something new with my Gen3.  Anyone else dumb enough to drop coin on a Gen3 Nest care to test?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: JS007 on September 10, 2015, 12:18:57 pm
Another quick edit... it appears you CAN'T set a temperature in WWN via a scene.  I'll have to report that one...

I have this issue since the beginning, and my workaround in UI7 is go to the Advance editor of the scene and add the action manually as SetCurrentSetpoint and the temp value you like.

BTW my thermostat is the Nest Gen2 and for the rest the plugin is working fine, but it really bother me that I cannot set the temperature though the scene wizard

It may be something new with my Gen3.  Anyone else dumb enough to drop coin on a Gen3 Nest care to test?

I will give it a try

edit : set to scene to manual, set device to 80, then ran manually, it updated, but did not see the update in gui until I did a ctrl f5, but looking at the thermostat, it's not really update, still shows old set temp, but then went to nest web site and shows new temp of 80 and says "offline" below my thermostat, maybe nest servers having issues right now

says went offline about an hour ago on web site

ran again, "Vera Connect WWN Plugin : Thermostat is not online"   see that in blue bar of vera , wont even change it now, will give it some time to see if comes back up

edit
I can ping the thermostat, so still has network

rebooted wifi to force my nest thermostat to reconnect to nest, this fixed it, now works, tested in scene and change as expected

I do hope that is not a common occurrence for the gen 3 nest

so mine working
Current Version plugin: 0.26
edge :     1.7.1248    7.09

I used the scene wizard, not the advanced
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: hmspain on September 11, 2015, 10:46:36 am
I have a theory based on something I read earlier.  Is it true that you have to turn the Nest thermostat to "Off", then set the temperature?

I would like to try:

local MyTemperature=78
local MyDevice=1043

(some luup code to turn the thermostat off)

luup.call_action("urn:upnp-org:serviceId:TemperatureSetpoint1","SetCurrentSetpoint",{NewCurrentSetpoint=MyTemperature},MyDevice)

(some luup code to turn the thermostat on)

 ---

Can someone help with the luup code to turn the thermostat on and off?  What we are trying to do here is work around a problem where the Nest thermostat temperature can't be set via a scene using the UI7 GUI.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: JS007 on September 11, 2015, 11:53:43 am
when was in auto-away mode I did get a message can not set it while in auto-away mode
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: hmspain on September 11, 2015, 12:10:10 pm
when was in auto-away mode I did get a message can not set it while in auto-away mode

I think I have the luup code, but need to test it when the thermostat is "Home" :-).

local MyTemperature=68
local MyDevice=1043
luup.call_action("urn:upnp-org:serviceId:HVAC_UserOperatingMode1","SetModeTarget",{NewModeTarget = "Off"},MyDevice)
luup.call_action("urn:upnp-org:serviceId:TemperatureSetpoint1_Cool","SetCurrentSetpoint",{NewCurrentSetpoint=MyTemperature},MyDevice)
luup.call_action("urn:upnp-org:serviceId:HVAC_UserOperatingMode1","SetModeTarget",{NewModeTarget = "Cool"},MyDevice)

EDIT: Fail... back to the drawing board.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: hmspain on September 12, 2015, 12:11:35 am
Another quick edit... it appears you CAN'T set a temperature in WWN via a scene.  I'll have to report that one...

I have this issue since the beginning, and my workaround in UI7 is go to the Advance editor of the scene and add the action manually as SetCurrentSetpoint and the temp value you like.

BTW my thermostat is the Nest Gen2 and for the rest the plugin is working fine, but it really bother me that I cannot set the temperature though the scene wizard

I tried *everything* I could think of before trying your suggestion; of course your recommendation works perfectly.  I've never had to use the "Advanced Editor" in a scene before.  It's simple to use, easy to understand, and... of course, it worked!
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: JS007 on September 17, 2015, 11:34:41 am
sent two support tickets for the above questions on Nest thermostat 'hvac_state' and issue with protect 2 showing co device as smoke device

well respond here with what I hear back

.

Got a reply

"This feature is not integrated to Vera at the moment. I?ve already added a feature request on this matter into our internal system, but I don?t have an ETA."

hoping the plugin for NEST will be updated to support 'hvac_state' before winter, but we will see, no ETA yet
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: Jamr on September 18, 2015, 04:25:54 pm
I connected two Nest protects to this add on. They both show up in my Vera as a CO and smoke sensor.
I then tested them by pushing the button on my nest protects twice and my Vera did not respond at all nor show the correct status. I then set of f each if the Nest's with smoke and my Vera did not respond nor show the correct status of the two sensors.
I will be calling to get this fixed but if you use this add on, be careful as it may not be working.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: mostlychris on October 14, 2015, 08:46:53 am
Has anyone had issues with the WWN plugin where it keeps 'freezing' or going unresponsive?  Have to go into the thermometer and reload the engine to get it to start working properly again and communicating with Vera?  Wouldn't say it happens daily to me, but probably every 2-3 days I have to reload the engine to get the proper temps and thermostat settings, home vs away, etc. to all function properly.  Kind've frustrating really.....

Happens all the time for me.  I have to reload the engine to get it to work again.  Sending commands to nest work fine. This morning I noticed that I didn't have temp updates again so I checked the running processes via ssh and issuing a 'ps faux'.  This did not show the connection to nest.  After reloading the engine, the connection to nest is once again showing in the process list.

root     32523  0.1  1.5   3384  1988 ?        S    07:31   0:00 curl -N -k -v -L https://developer-api.nest.com/?auth={auth key}

The attachment shows the "flatline" for the inside temps when there are no updates from nest.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: MNB on October 14, 2015, 03:47:27 pm
@mostlychris, I'm assuming that your using Datamine plugin to display your nest temp? Other than plotting over time is there any other indications that would alert me that WWN is not working? I'm noticing that my Edge seems to work great after a Power-on-rest but over time like 24hr it seems to hang and am not able to access the unit, looking at the lights on the unit their all lite with Wifi flashing...Mike
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: mostlychris on October 14, 2015, 03:49:28 pm
I am not using datamine.  I use some Luup code that sends it to a database I house on one of my servers and then I use some graphing software to display it.  I got this idea (and code) from a French site that I really couldn't read.  Good thing code is universal.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: MNB on October 14, 2015, 03:54:19 pm
@mostlychris, many thanxs for the comeback. Simple question would datamine be able to perform the same or is your approach better? Can you share the Luup Code that you used. Mike
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: mostlychris on October 14, 2015, 04:05:37 pm
I'm not sure if Datamine will do it, but I can't see why not.

Here is the site I used.  It's rather lengthy so I won't post all the code here. 

http://www.touteladomotique.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=112&t=12486
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: andreimios on October 15, 2015, 01:55:06 am
Hi,

Can you submit a support ticket regarding temperature update issue? Please send me the ticket number via pm or email. We will need to look at your logs to see what is the issue with the plugin.
Thank you.

Regards,

- Andrei -
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: Jamr on October 15, 2015, 02:51:12 pm
Hi,

Can you submit a support ticket regarding temperature update issue? Please send me the ticket number via pm or email. We will need to look at your logs to see what is the issue with the plugin.
Thank you.

Regards,

- Andrei -

They do not respond to complaints the add on is not working but the want logs to clear up a temp update issue?

WTF Vera?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: andreimios on October 16, 2015, 05:59:26 am
Hi Jamr,

I missed your post, I'm sorry for that.

Quote
I then tested them by pushing the button on my nest protects twice and my Vera did not respond at all nor show the correct status. I then set of f each if the Nest's with smoke and my Vera did not respond nor show the correct status of the two sensors.
I will be calling to get this fixed but if you use this add on, be careful as it may not be working.

The manual test does not modify the actual status of your Nest protect. Plugin will update the CO or the smoke sensor only when the status is actually changed. For getting the status, plugin connects to Nest cloud service and gets the new events from there. If the status reported is "ok" then the plugin will not updated the child devices, respectively the CO and the Smoke ones. During the manual test, the values reported by Nest are not changing, so the status for the child devices will not change, take a look here :
"smoke_co_alarms" : {
            "some_id" : {
               "name" : "Office 1",
               "locale" : "en-US",
               "structure_id" : "some_id",
               "software_version" : "1.0.2rc2",
               "device_id" : "some_id",
               "name_long" : "Office Nest Protect 1",
               "is_online" : true,
               "battery_health" : "ok",
               "co_alarm_state" : "ok",
               "smoke_alarm_state" : "ok",
               "ui_color_state" : "green",
               "is_manual_test_active" : true,
               "last_manual_test_time" : "2015-10-16T09:47:38.000Z"
            },
            "protect_id_2" : {
               "name" : "Office 2",
               "locale" : "en-US",
               "structure_id" : "some_id",
               "software_version" : "1.0.2rc2",
               "device_id" : "some_id",
               "name_long" : "Office Nest Protect 2",
               "is_online" : true,
               "battery_health" : "ok",
               "co_alarm_state" : "ok",
               "smoke_alarm_state" : "ok",
               "ui_color_state" : "green",
               "is_manual_test_active" : false,
               "last_manual_test_time" : "2015-10-16T09:50:34.000Z"
            }
         }

If you want to test the plugin, you can do it like this : http://www.wikihow.com/Test-a-Smoke-Detector

All the Bests,

- Andrei -
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: autostage on October 25, 2015, 12:11:44 pm
I just purchased a Vera Edge and I'm having some issues with the Nest App.

1.  Under devices there are three options for the fan, cycle, on, and auto.  The thermostat is always in fan auto, if I tell the fan to turn on, it doesn't and the UI shows it back in auto.
2.  Devices show the humidity level, but I can't set the humidity level.
3.  When I create a scene, the nest thermostat shows up under device actions, but there's no option to control the fan. (this of course assumes that #1 works but its what I actually need to do, I want to set the fan to turn on every few hours in vacation mode to avoid that musty smell when I return from vacation)
4.  When I create a scene, I can use the humidity level as a trigger, but I can't set the humidity level of the nest.  (I was going to set up a series of scenes to base the humidity on the outside temperature so I don't get condensation when its very cold out.)

If these aren't going to be possible with the nest wwn plugin, is there another z-wave thermostat I can buy that will allow for fan and humidity control?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: JS007 on November 01, 2015, 08:44:31 pm
sent two support tickets for the above questions on Nest thermostat 'hvac_state' and issue with protect 2 showing co device as smoke device

well respond here with what I hear back

.

Got a reply

"This feature is not integrated to Vera at the moment. I?ve already added a feature request on this matter into our internal system, but I don?t have an ETA."

hoping the plugin for NEST will be updated to support 'hvac_state' before winter, but we will see, no ETA yet

have not heard anything yet about the 'hvac_state' and winter is getting here

I bought a little room heater for this winter, just in case Vera doesn't get the nest working in time
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: ntetzlaff on November 18, 2015, 10:31:13 pm
I just purchased a Vera Edge and I'm having some issues with the Nest App.

1.  Under devices there are three options for the fan, cycle, on, and auto.  The thermostat is always in fan auto, if I tell the fan to turn on, it doesn't and the UI shows it back in auto.
2.  Devices show the humidity level, but I can't set the humidity level.
3.  When I create a scene, the nest thermostat shows up under device actions, but there's no option to control the fan. (this of course assumes that #1 works but its what I actually need to do, I want to set the fan to turn on every few hours in vacation mode to avoid that musty smell when I return from vacation)
4.  When I create a scene, I can use the humidity level as a trigger, but I can't set the humidity level of the nest.  (I was going to set up a series of scenes to base the humidity on the outside temperature so I don't get condensation when its very cold out.)

If these aren't going to be possible with the nest wwn plugin, is there another z-wave thermostat I can buy that will allow for fan and humidity control?

Similar issue here... 3rd gen Nest
VeraConnect WWN v 0.27
Vera Edge v 1.7.1569

- From web interface unable to activate fan - turning on fan also does not change fan status within web gui
- Using Android app v 7.148 on lollipop - unable to change Nest temp

Just emailed support - will update if I hear anything
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: reardencode on November 19, 2015, 01:41:35 pm
TL; DR: Got it working by becoming a nest developer and authorizing a dummy app for lots of permissions, inputting an auth code and token for that app into this plugin, and modifying this plugin with the two attachments to this post. Oh, and I also fixed a bug where most updates from Nest wouldn't be applied because the getStreamEvents function couldn't parse them properly if more than one event was delivered per 10 seconds.

Blech, this plugin kinda mostly works OK, but it doesn't report the HVAC_OperatingState at all.

I've edited the files to make it report it, but Vera needs to change their app permissions with Nest to get Nest's API to report the hvac_state variable (introduced to their API in May of 2015).  If anyone else is feeling industrious, here are the files I modified to get it working (and I signed up for my own Nest dev account, and got a auth code and token which I plugged into this plugin to get OperatingState mostly working).

One thing I'm struggling with is that scenes don't seem to be firing in response to HVAC_OperatingState1 ModeState changes.  Anyone know what I might need to do differently to ensure that scenes fire when things change?

Edit to add:  I've also noticed (just once so far) that the curl process which streams events from Nest's API sometimes dies, and there's no mechanism in the plugin to restart it.  I think the plugin should probably save the PID of the curl process or something and periodically restart it if it dies (or since Nest's stream API sends keep-alives, perhaps just monitor the file and if it hasn't changed in some time restart the curl).

Edit later: Got the scene triggering right -- inconsistency between micasaverde-com and upnp-org namespace for HVAC_OperatingState1 service.  Also added code which checks if there is a process running streaming and restarts streaming if it has failed for any reason.  (Updated attachments)
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: JS007 on November 20, 2015, 10:33:37 am
thanks, reardencode

maybe that will be enough information to get vera to update this plugin

I figure we will know when they start to look at it when they change the permissions and your fix starts working
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: hmspain on November 20, 2015, 12:36:55 pm
Is it a bridge too far to expect the WWN (works with Nest) plugin to support the Nest cameras?
Title: How to get presence/movement notification for each Nest
Post by: sebtardif@ncf.ca on November 24, 2015, 03:33:43 am
I have 3 Nests, and using plugin VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest).

Do we have ways to retrieve last movement /presence detected on the room where each of my Nests are?

I guess, if I have a different account for each Nest, I could maybe do that, could I use the plug-ins with 3 different accounts?

Is it easier to do what I want with an Ecobee thermostat?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: andreimios on November 24, 2015, 07:04:12 am
Hi,

@reardencode : We appreciate your help on fixing these issues with WWN plugin and we thank you for this.
@JS007 : we will update the plugin but new authorization will be required after changing the permissions.
@hmspain: I'm not aware of any plan to include the cameras into plugin. If there will be on in the feature, I will let you all know.
@sebtardif@ncf.ca : Nest API does not include support for motion sensor, so we cannot add support into plugin for this.

Regarding fan support, in order to make it like Nest implemented and also with an user friendly interface, there are some big changes that needs to be done on our side because our implementation for fan is slightly different then the one form Nest. I can implement an workaround but it will require users to set the fan timer in advance setting and the control will be not so intuitive. This needs to be approved on my side too so ... I will get back when there will be something to tell.

All the Bests,

- Andrei -
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: JS007 on November 24, 2015, 08:00:34 am
just tested, and "ModeState" now works, it shows "Heating" when heating and "Idle" when not heating :)

when I went into nest web page, it had a message for me, said Mios needed to update permissions, I clicked allow and now is working

edit
     just finished setting up pleg and testing

was able to select "Thermostat State Change" with "Device is actively heating" and ""Device is idle"

both worked and the changes were reflected in Vera almost immediately, it's getting cold here, so this is great news to me, thanks!

iModeStateHeating   WWN Thermostat - Hal is actively heating   false   2015-11-24 07:12:13.123    2015-11-24 07:15:53.159
iModeStateIdle           WWN Thermostat - Hal is idle                           true   2015-11-24 07:15:53.180    2015-11-24 07:12:13.123
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: khancock on November 24, 2015, 08:52:59 pm
Regarding fan support, in order to make it like Nest implemented and also with an user friendly interface, there are some big changes that needs to be done on our side because our implementation for fan is slightly different then the one form Nest. I can implement an workaround but it will require users to set the fan timer in advance setting and the control will be not so intuitive. This needs to be approved on my side too so ... I will get back when there will be something to tell.

All the Bests,

- Andrei -
Was anything every done about the fan speed control (or lack there of)? It would actually work well for me to have a fan timer set in advance. Please, please implement something like this!
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: oschoen on November 30, 2015, 04:15:35 am
Hi Everyone, I see some people complaining about the WWN plugin to freeze after a while. I got exactly the same issue. When it works, it works fine but after a while the plugin stops to work and doesn't read Nest values anymore... Is there a plan from Micasaverde to fix this issue? (Since it is an official plugin?)
To make it work again I have to reload the engine, the problem is that it makes the all system unreliable...

All the best
Olivier
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: JS007 on November 30, 2015, 05:13:52 pm
Hi Everyone, I see some people complaining about the WWN plugin to freeze after a while. I got exactly the same issue. When it works, it works fine but after a while the plugin stops to work and doesn't read Nest values anymore... Is there a plan from Micasaverde to fix this issue? (Since it is an official plugin?)
To make it work again I have to reload the engine, the problem is that it makes the all system unreliable...

All the best
Olivier

I am using the fix in post #87, have not  had any issues, 0.28 is the version I put those two files on top of

from the above sounds like vera is gonna implement in the official version too, but for now this seems to resolve for me
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: andreimios on December 02, 2015, 02:12:31 am
Hi all,

v0.28 of the plugin includes the fixes from post #87. Please check and see if you have this version installed on your gateway. Also check "auto-update" flag for the plugin in order to automatically update to the latest version from apps.mios.com or you can update it manually.

All the Best,

- Andrei -
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: JS007 on December 02, 2015, 08:34:19 pm
Hi all,

v0.28 of the plugin includes the fixes from post #87. Please check and see if you have this version installed on your gateway. Also check "auto-update" flag for the plugin in order to automatically update to the latest version from apps.mios.com or you can update it manually.

All the Best,

- Andrei -

did the manual update, i can confirm "ModeState" is working with .28, thanks


WWN Update
http://<VERAIP>:3480/data_request?id=update_plugin&Plugin=8151

Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: khancock on December 02, 2015, 09:38:52 pm
Hi all,

v0.28 of the plugin includes the fixes from post #87. Please check and see if you have this version installed on your gateway. Also check "auto-update" flag for the plugin in order to automatically update to the latest version from apps.mios.com or you can update it manually.

All the Best,

- Andrei -
Any word on the fan controls and if that will be addressed?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: andreimios on December 03, 2015, 01:51:08 am
Hi khancock,

The fan implementation I suggested is not something that will be approved on my side. I can do it, but I don't have time located for this. I'm really busy now, the end of the year is near and I have other priorities. I hope you understand that I cannot give you an ETA for this right now, but I can say that it will not be available this month.

Regards,

- Andrei -
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: peanutlasko on December 08, 2015, 07:26:12 pm
I'm trying to do a fresh install (factory reset Vera) and getting a message "Vera Connect WWN : Starting up..." - I see no Nest devices or anything to configure my Nest whatsoever. Is this some new bug? I removed the app and reinstalled - same problem.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: andreimios on December 09, 2015, 03:26:00 am
Hi peanutlasko,

There should be no issue with this new plugin version, on my side it was installed with no issue. Also other users were able to install it. Maybe you need to accept the new app permissions required by the last fix, please check you nest account for the update permissions message.  If this is not the case, please submit a support ticket and also send me the tech support access codes via email. Me or my colleagues from CC will try to help you.

All the Best,

- Andrei -
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: peanutlasko on December 09, 2015, 05:25:15 pm
Hi peanutlasko,

There should be no issue with this new plugin version, on my side it was installed with no issue. Also other users were able to install it. Maybe you need to accept the new app permissions required by the last fix, please check you nest account for the update permissions message.  If this is not the case, please submit a support ticket and also send me the tech support access codes via email. Me or my colleagues from CC will try to help you.

All the Best,

- Andrei -

Thanks Andrei for the reply. I updated from UI5 to UI7 and all is working now. Does this plugin also support the Nest (Dropcam) cameras  ?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: andreimios on December 10, 2015, 03:15:19 am
Hi peanutlasko,

The plugin is only for thermostat and protect, Dropcam cameras are not supported. I cannot tell if there are any plans on our side to add the support or even if the Nest API allows as to integrate Dropcam camera in the same way as we integrate other camera models. There is some research that need to be done and after that, raise the proposal to a "higher level" and see what the management decides.

Regards,

- Andrei -
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: reardencode on January 06, 2016, 10:53:09 am
@reardencode : We appreciate your help on fixing these issues with WWN plugin and we thank you for this.

No problem, glad to help!

One more bug fix for ya -- the g_fileSize variable wasn't being reset when the output file was removed, this resulted in nest updates not being applied after running for a while without reloading LUUP.

Happy hacking!
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: raftheunis87 on January 19, 2016, 05:13:01 am
Hey all,

I've just bought myself a Vera Edge and I'm using the new VeraConnect WWN plugin to connect my Nest Thermostat to the system.
The connection is working, but I'm having trouble setting a temperature (in celsius) with a decimal, for instance: 20,5?C. It always gets rounded to 20?C.

I know there was another plugin made by watou that had a variable to allow a decimal value. Is this also possible in the VeraConnect WWN plugin or not?

Thanks!

Kind regards,

Raf
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: andreimios on January 20, 2016, 01:44:59 am
Hi raftheunis87,

I will add this on my "to do" list but right now I cannot tell you when it will be available, I'm really busy at the office this period.

Best Regards,

- Andrei -
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: therealdb on January 20, 2016, 02:28:35 pm
I'm not able to have the temperature displayed in celsius. Any hints? Thanks.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: andreimios on January 21, 2016, 03:30:42 am
Hi therealdb,

Plugin is displaying the value for temperature that corresponds to the format found on your unit. So you should change it from "Users & Account Info/Unit Settings/Weather Settings"

All the Best,

- Andrei -
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: therealdb on January 22, 2016, 02:45:50 am
hi mcv.andrei. thanks for you input. I was able to did it by changing the format a couple of times.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: raftheunis87 on January 26, 2016, 05:19:48 am
Hi raftheunis87,

I will add this on my "to do" list but right now I cannot tell you when it will be available, I'm really busy at the office this period.

Best Regards,

- Andrei -

Thanks Andrei!

Another thing I'm struggling with:
I would like to use the Vera "Home" and "Away" presets.
So whenever I activate my "Away" preset, I want my nest status to change to "Away".
I have a device created by the New VeraConnect WWN plugin called "Nest status". But somehow it's not possible to configure this device when modifying the away preset? I can only set the temperature or change to "Off", "Heat", "Cool" or "Auto".

I've included screenshots to show what I mean.

Is there a way to do this?

Kind regards,

Raf
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: andreimios on January 26, 2016, 07:39:54 am
Hi Raf,

Quote
Another thing I'm struggling with:
I would like to use the Vera "Home" and "Away" presets.
So whenever I activate my "Away" preset, I want my nest status to change to "Away".
I have a device created by the New VeraConnect WWN plugin called "Nest status". But somehow it's not possible to configure this device when modifying the away preset? I can only set the temperature or change to "Off", "Heat", "Cool" or "Auto".

Nest structure device(Home/Away) cannot be added on preset modes configuration, but you can use "House Modes" plugin and create scenes that change the Nest structure mode based on your needs.

All the Best,

- Andrei -
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: jwwilhelm on January 28, 2016, 09:53:03 pm
I am running version 0.28 of the WWN plugin and am still experiencing issues described earlier in this thread where after of couple days have passed without resetting the luup engine, set point changes in the Nest will no longer register in the plugin.  Responses to these earlier posts state that this issue should be fixed in version 0.28 however that does not seem to be true in my case.  Anyone else still experiencing this issue?  Any more activity to address this issue?  I've been working with support on the issue but they indicate nothing abnormal is seen in the logs.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: swfire271 on January 29, 2016, 10:10:57 am
I am running version 0.28 of the WWN plugin and am still experiencing issues described earlier in this thread where after of couple days have passed without resetting the luup engine, set point changes in the Nest will no longer register in the plugin.  Responses to these earlier posts state that this issue should be fixed in version 0.28 however that does not seem to be true in my case.  Anyone else still experiencing this issue?  Any more activity to address this issue?  I've been working with support on the issue but they indicate nothing abnormal is seen in the logs.

Yes, I am still having this same problem as well.  I uploaded the 2 files thinking maybe that would do it but it doesn't.  Not sure what to do next.....
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: reardencode on January 29, 2016, 10:18:56 am
I believe all of my suggested improvements are in the plugin so you should actually _not_ upload any files from this thread for it to work properly.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: jwwilhelm on January 29, 2016, 09:25:21 pm
reardencode, you posted a fixed lua file on 1/6 that probably is not in version 0.28 of the plugin.  Would the issue you found be related to the issue mentioned in my previous post?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: reardencode on February 01, 2016, 12:03:53 pm
reardencode, you posted a fixed lua file on 1/6 that probably is not in version 0.28 of the plugin.  Would the issue you found be related to the issue mentioned in my previous post?
TBH, I'm not sure, uploading that one file might still be best.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: jwwilhelm on February 08, 2016, 09:37:44 pm
swfire271, the fixed lua file that reardencode posted seems to have fixed this problem for me.  I'm cautiously optimistic, but it's been over a week without loosing updates and I used to be lucky to get two days.  Thanks for finding the bug and posting the fix readencode.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: jwwilhelm on February 10, 2016, 09:23:57 am
I knew I shouldn't have posted that last one... should have been more cautious on the optimism.  A day later the problem popped up again and the plugin is not recognizing any set point updates in the Nest.  :-\
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: andreimios on February 12, 2016, 09:56:20 am
Hi all,

A new plugin version, 0.29 is available. It includes a fix for the notification stream and one for temperature format(C or F). Here should be no re-authentication required.

All the Best,

- Andrei -
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: bakardi on February 16, 2016, 08:06:08 am
Trying to set temperature with scene with no luck (UI7). Can change only HEAT/COOL/AUTO/OFF. red and blue arrows are clickable, but do not change anything.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: jensjensen on February 17, 2016, 11:07:15 am
I don't see a dedicated subforum for this plugin, so I'll post here.

Trying to get Vera Connect WWN up and running with no luck.
I am able to get a pin from Nest, and enter it into the authorize page of the WWN plugin, but a few seconds later Vera says:
"Vera Connect WWN : Please go to 'Authorize' tab and authorize VeraConnect!"
and VeraConnect WWN device shows "Vera Connect WWN.Can't Detect Device".

Interestingly, I tried the old Nest plugin and it is able to connect and work, but I understand from this thread and others that it's no longer supported.

Any clues on what else I can check for?

Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: andreimios on February 18, 2016, 02:36:27 am
Hi,

@jensjensen: try to reload the engine. Wait for it to start and refresh your browser(CTRL + F5). Then try to authorize the plugin once again.
@bakardi: we will look into this, thank you for reporting this issue.

All the Best,

- Andrei -
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: dlock on February 19, 2016, 07:39:07 pm
I don't see a dedicated subforum for this plugin, so I'll post here.

Trying to get Vera Connect WWN up and running with no luck.
I am able to get a pin from Nest, and enter it into the authorize page of the WWN plugin, but a few seconds later Vera says:
"Vera Connect WWN : Please go to 'Authorize' tab and authorize VeraConnect!"
and VeraConnect WWN device shows "Vera Connect WWN.Can't Detect Device".

Interestingly, I tried the old Nest plugin and it is able to connect and work, but I understand from this thread and others that it's no longer supported.

Any clues on what else I can check for?

I have exactly the same problem
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: Minok on February 20, 2016, 05:31:50 pm
Well, I successfully got my NEST thermostat working with the Vera UI and the VeraPlus controller & Nest Service.  Whew, that was a bit more difficult than I would have hoped for - lots of "what are they assuming" thinking required.

Eg - once the WWN App was installed, the blue message bar shows "Go to the authorize tab.."   Tab in what, where?  There is no tab on this screen?  Authorize tab on the Nest website?  Nope.. once you dig down to the new WWN Device, there is an Authorize tab.  Which you click.  Which produces a web page with a PIN (and no other info on the page as to what to do next).. which you need to know to copy to the clipboard and switch the browser back to the Vera UI browser window/tab which now has an input field for the PIN, where you paste the PIN, and submit it.

I'm assuming the messages the UI can provide are limited in length?  Why else would the message not say "Go to the authorize tab of the new WWN device..." ?

I understand user interfaces are hard to do well, but hope Vera and others can step back and get the engineers away from the UI and dialog design and have some non-technical folks work in designing and validating the UI and dialogs.  This will avoid the prompt of such things as "supply username and password" with out the somewhat common frustrating follow-on questions by a user such as: "User name and password to WHAT account/device?"  (this happened with respect to the seperate NEST plugin, not this WWN plugin).

Still, got it working, now to configure it to send me an alert whenever the humidity goes above 80%...
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: andreimios on March 03, 2016, 06:35:50 am
Hi all,

A new plugin version, 0.30 is available. It includes a validation for POLLING_RATE variable : the minimum allowed value for it is "5"(seconds). There should be no re-authentication required.

All the Best,

- Andrei -
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: jokeman3000 on March 04, 2016, 12:44:25 pm
I apologize if this has been mentioned, but has anyone found a solution to the constant "starting up" issue?

I'm on a vera lite running the latest beta ui7
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: hadiesper on March 07, 2016, 04:56:35 pm
I found a bug in the Nest plugin. Can I please request a fix?

If the vera is operating under degrees celsius, you are able to use the VERA webUI to set setpoints in 0.5 degree multiples. For example 22.5 degree.

But using the HTTPGET API, 0.5 degrees increments in celcius do not work and the WWN plugin rounds down to 22 degrees instead of 22.5.

This is the HTTPGET command I am using:

http://192.168.2.101:3480/data_request?id=lu_action&DeviceNum=50&serviceId=urn:upnp-org:serviceId:TemperatureSetpoint1&action=SetCurrentSetpoint&NewCurrentSetpoint=22.5

Btw, I tested this on Zwave thermostats and it is working perfectly in 0.5 increments. But it does not work on the Nest Plugin.

Can anyone please advise if this is an easy fix to rectify?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: SchattenMann on March 10, 2016, 07:07:13 am
@mcv.andrei - any plans to support Hot Water with GEN3 Nest Thermostat?

Edit: just realized Nest is not exposing HW control right now so I suppose it's not on your hands
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: ickyb0d on March 11, 2016, 09:20:13 pm
Anyone else having issues with the Android mobile app not working with the thermostat ?  I'm having issues with the mobile app not showing the correct set temperature, and not being able to change the set temperature via the mobile app as well.  Image showing the difference attached.

I've enabled debugging and taken a look at the logs and I believe the issue to be the mobile app is sending different commands than the web interface.  Example of changing temps from both apps:

Web Interface
Code: [Select]
50 03/11/16 20:11:53.254 luup_log:42: (Vera Connect WWN)::(setCurrentSetpoint) : data = -d '{"target_temperature_f" :69}' <0x77cdb000>
50 03/11/16 20:11:54.196 luup_log:42: (Vera Connect WWN)::(setCurrentSetpoint) : Request OK, Response = {"target_temperature_f" :69} <0x77cdb000>

Mobile Interface
Code: [Select]
50 03/11/16 20:12:56.204 luup_log:42: (Vera Connect WWN)::(setAutoSetPointHeat) : data = -d '{"target_temperature_high_f" :74}' <0x77cdb000>
50 03/11/16 20:12:57.144 luup_log:42: (Vera Connect WWN)::(nestRequest) : error = Cannot set target_temperature_high while mode is heat <0x77cdb000>
50 03/11/16 20:12:57.145 luup_log:42: (Vera Connect WWN)::(nestRequest) : description = nil <0x77cdb000>
50 03/11/16 20:12:57.145 luup_log:42: (Vera Connect WWN)::(setAutoSetPointHeat) : ERROR : Could not set Data! <0x77cdb000

To me it looks like the Android mobile app is calling the wrong method? setAutoSetPointHeat instead of setCurrentSetpoint ?  I've created a support ticket 2 days ago, but haven't heard back yet.  If this is something solvable within the plugin itself, I'd love to be able to get into the code to fix this but I haven't seen a repository containing the WWN plugin anywhere.  Any suggestions or info would be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: shward1 on March 17, 2016, 09:57:10 pm
Any update on getting fan control working?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: dinochronos on March 29, 2016, 12:39:02 am
Also would be great to see the status on the main page that shows the what the HVAC unit is doing:
Cooling, Heating, Fan Only , Fan Auto and Idle.

Previous app - Nest Thermostat and Protect showed this status which is a good indicator of what the system is doing rather than listen by the fan noise if the system is on..

Last the actual temperature reading should also be on the main page where once one sees that it;s easier to change the set points  based on the actual temperature also being displayed.

Small tweaks but very useful to the user when accessing the main page.

Hoping others will see the same benefit and vote in favor for this very useful enhancement.  I believe that a Zwave thermostat when added to VERA for sure in UI5 would provide this additional information

Looking for VERA to advise.

Thanks
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: echino on March 31, 2016, 06:59:01 pm
I have Vera Plus. Installed Vera Connect Works With Nest. I only have one Nest Protect to start. Here is the issue:

In the app, Vera always shows this status:

WWN Home/Away - Home

Even though Nest can be any of the following: Home, Away, Auto Away.

How to make correct Nest status appear in Vera app? My goal is to send an alert when status changes to Home.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: JS007 on April 01, 2016, 11:11:51 am
I have Vera Plus. Installed Vera Connect Works With Nest. I only have one Nest Protect to start. Here is the issue:

In the app, Vera always shows this status:

WWN Home/Away - Home

Even though Nest can be any of the following: Home, Away, Auto Away.

How to make correct Nest status appear in Vera app? My goal is to send an alert when status changes to Home.

do you have the thermostat?

I disabled mine in my thermostat as it was always showing away, I have battery nest smoke detectors and they do not update the thermostat live like the ac powered ones do, nest really needs some portable motion detectors like other thermostats to place around the house

Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: echino on April 01, 2016, 02:53:16 pm
I don't have a thermostat. Only one nest protect, wired, not battery.

The issue is the Nest app status is changing between Home / Away / Auto Away. But WWN plugin in the Vera app always shows Home and never changes. How to fix it?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: shward1 on April 02, 2016, 12:03:11 am
Any update on getting fan control working?

Still hoping to get an update on fan control...
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: bbro on April 06, 2016, 09:53:59 am
Lately I've been having problems with WWN disconnecting. When this happens, it stays disconnected until I manually reauthorize the plugin with Nest even though it tells me it is already authorized. This started happening after I created two scenes that ineract with WWN. One pings my phone every 30 minutes and tells WWN to set my nest account to "Home" if my phone is connected to my home network. The other simply sends me a notification if my Nests go into "Auto Away". Neither scene is working properly and I suspect it is because WWN is disconnecting when my Nests enter Auto Away (just when WWN is supposed to be intervening to prevent it).

Of course none of this Rube Goldberg stuff would be necessary if Nest would provide stand alone activity sensors to improve Auto Away. And so far their implementation of geo-fencing has been a major fail. Of course that is another subject but I was hoping I could use Vera to work around some of these shortcomings.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: echino on April 06, 2016, 05:16:14 pm
Same thing here. For the last several days, WWN disconnects and stays disconnected. Re-authorization by PIN does not work, getting invalid token error. I uninstall and re-install the WWN plug in, then it works. Until the next day.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: gPaq on April 06, 2016, 08:21:02 pm
The WWN 0.30 plug-in works very well and with no particular issues that I can tell on my new VeraPlus (nice controller, btw!). However, compared to the Nest native app on my iPhone or the Nest web interface, I haven't really found much use for this plug-in and my 6 Nest Protect smoke and CO detectors. It's nice to see them in the Vera interface, and I will look into setting up Notifications which is probably the most useful feature of this plug-in.

Is there someone who can explain what the purpose is of the Armed or Disarmed status for a Nest Protect? I don't think Disarmed turns off the smoke or CO detection capability, and these settings don't seem to override the functionality on the Nest app on my iPhone for example.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: bbro on April 08, 2016, 10:25:09 pm
I have confirmed that mine is disconnecting when my Nests enter Auto-Away mode. Yesterday they did not enter Auto-Away and WWN remained connected. Today I went into town and the thermostats went into Auto-Away. Sure enough, WWN was disconnected and complaining about authorization again. This didn't start happening until I set up scenes to take action when Auto-Away was engaged. I'll disable them one at a time and see if anything changes.

This is on a 2 month old Vera Edge with UI7.

Edit: I had forgotten that I had already disabled the scene that pings my phone and sets Nest to Home if my phone is on my wireless network. So the only Nest-related scene running during this last disconnect was the one that sends notification if Nest goes into Auto-Away.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: echino on April 22, 2016, 03:37:12 pm
I've been trying to solve this issue with Vera support by email, unsuccessfully. I have a scene which is supposed to notify me when Nest changes modes between Home / Away / Auto Away. I gave remote access and my Nest credentials to support. They escalated to level 2 (whatever that means), and I got a response that they fixed the issue. But as soon as I left the home today and Nest went into Auto Away mode, Vera Plus did not notify me (scene did not run) and my WWN device and all associated Nest devices got disconnected from Vera Plus again. So issue is not solved. I emailed back again and waiting for support's response again. But I start thinking this cannot be fixed, so I cannot do any Nest integration with Vera Plus.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: bbro on April 25, 2016, 01:08:58 am
Same thing happening here. I came home today to find Nest had gone into auto away and WWN had disconnected from Nest without sending notification. I have auto update checked on the WWN app so I'm assuming it had updated to the newest version (0.3). This may be moot for me though since the new Nest Away Assist feature seems to have started working better as my system hasn't gone into auto away while I was home for over a week now. So maybe Nest has fixed the problem and that's all I was hoping to us WWN for.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: shward1 on May 20, 2016, 11:38:46 am
Any update on getting fan control working?

Still hoping to get an update on fan control...

Ping...
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: fah3 on June 22, 2016, 11:33:53 am
Now that the Nest Cam API is available, has there been any discussion of expanding this plugin to incorporate the cameras.  At minimum, getting device status and alerts/notifications from the cameras would be great. 
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: rafale77 on June 24, 2016, 06:05:26 pm
Well it looks like the WWN is service is down.

I am getting this message when I try to get a PIN:

An error occured.
Connecting to MiOS is currently unavailable. Please contact MiOS, Limited for more information.

Called customer care and they said they are working on it and expect to put it back up soon...
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: Ghostm on July 02, 2016, 07:51:13 pm
Still an issue for me, contacted support, still not resolved.

Bit frustrated, just spent 400 on the vera plus and vera compatible devices.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: Pangborn on July 04, 2016, 08:58:12 am
I'm having the same issue. It simply says Connecting to MiOS is currently unavailable. When adding nest via wwn. I have veraplus.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: Ghostm on July 06, 2016, 06:30:32 pm
They're nest developer account has reached their user quota. They said they contacted nest to extended it but with alot of submissions they are not sure when.

As an end user i will give it a couple more days, i tried a few smarthubs, liked vera the best, but if I cant get this working before the return date is up, the others i tried worked without issue.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: Ghostm on July 13, 2016, 12:47:25 am
Finally got this sorted, one issue i am having, i set my nest to auto mode (heat and cool temp range). Why cant you change the range? The plugin seems to be unable to accomplish this basic function?

I use a program called simple control a universal remote app for ios (similar to harmony) that can even accomplish this.

Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: Ghostm on July 14, 2016, 07:36:13 pm
Also is their no way to adjust temperature when using Celsius by .5 either?? I hit up once from 22 Celsius to 22.5, but it wont stick. I have to hold the up button up and move it up to 23? Im so disappointed.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: RobertN on July 18, 2016, 11:16:35 am
Any updates to this - Connecting to MiOS is currently unavailable? It has been several days and I am still having issues with this.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: intrepidpursuit on July 20, 2016, 03:01:20 pm
I'm new to Vera and just purchased a VeraPlus. First two things I tried were a Zigbee HA light bulb and the nest. Neither work. Not off to a good start here.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: Ghostm on July 22, 2016, 07:49:51 pm
Still cant get over there is no way to adjust the ranges when the thermostat is set to auto, literally every app i have used with nest allows that adjustment (smarthings, insteon, harmony, nest app itself). Its all i use and i do adjust those ranges, I cant do much with the app.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: michelhamelin on August 14, 2016, 10:03:17 am
i have a Nest thermostat and a vera 3 ,i need to know what is the differance between VeraConnect WWN and Nest Thermostat and Protect.
Witch one you recommand and why?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: Gklmdawson on August 14, 2016, 10:55:42 am
Vera connect wwn is a plugin developed by vera for the nest it uses an official API and is developed for ui7. Nest thermostat and protect is plugin written by a forum member, the great watou, for ui5. During the transition to ui7 vera didn't provide documentation for setting up thermostats and then released the wwn version, watou decided to stop development of his app.

On ui5 the nest thermostat and protect is hands down the best. On ui7 there are a few functionality flaws. You have open the device in the GUI to change the temperature. But on third party mobile apps everything works great. It also works great in scenes and pleg.

The wwn version seems to go down frequently and I have had it conflict directly with the dsc plugin where I can't have both working.

I recommend the nest thermostat and protect app if you don't mind changing the thermostat in the device rather then the main web ui.

Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: ascari on November 29, 2016, 03:09:16 pm
Some issues with Work WIth Nest ?

A lot of lost connection with mine and now impossible to change set temperature if the are decimal (exemple 19.5 or 20.5) but ok with round temperature ( 19, 20c?)

I'm alone ?

Thx
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: drewcovi on November 30, 2016, 05:37:29 pm
Some issues with Work WIth Nest ?

A lot of lost connection with mine and now impossible to change set temperature if the are decimal (exemple 19.5 or 20.5) but ok with round temperature ( 19, 20c?)

I'm alone ?

Thx

@mcv.andrei Any chance a dev key expired? I assume this is a fairly direct connection between Nest and our Vera units... correct?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: parks23 on November 30, 2016, 08:15:44 pm
Same problem. Can't authorize with my nest account. I get: An error occured.
Connecting to MiOS is currently unavailable. Please contact MiOS, Limited for more information.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: PreZ on December 01, 2016, 11:31:56 am
I am constantly getting this error after clicking 'Authorize' on the nest site:

Quote
An error occured.
Connecting to MiOS is currently unavailable. Please contact MiOS, Limited for more information.

Not particularly helpful, but also means my WWN devices are not able to be authorized, and are not working.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: funstuff234 on December 01, 2016, 01:58:47 pm
Also lost Nest connectivity
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: shollinger on December 02, 2016, 11:16:06 pm
I just bought a VeraPlus, the first device I tried to connect was my family of Nests.... I got the same unable to authorize message - When I called tech support for vera, they emailed me back to tell me that they have reached the maximum number of Nests that are allowed to connect to their app.... ???  And they are working on a solution with absolutely no timeline for expected resolution. ::)

Their website still has Nest as a "Works with Vera" product - which is absolutely false advertising.  NOT impressed...

If anyone on the forum has ideas for work-arounds, or other tips, it would be appreciated!!!

Thanks
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: rafale77 on December 06, 2016, 05:24:21 pm
Had the exact same problem when I first tried. I waited waited and one day tried again and got it to work. It maybe that micasaverde is underestimating how many licenses they need. It is really a problem on the nest side limiting how many entries they give to Veras.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: shward1 on December 08, 2016, 12:07:54 am
Any update on getting fan control working?

Still hoping to get an update on fan control...

Ping...

Hello, Vera support, can you hear us???  Please provide and update.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: ascari on December 16, 2016, 07:14:29 am
I have this code in start up it's normal ?


-- Nest deauth check begin --
local mime = require("mime")
local nestDeviceFound = false

for dev, attr in pairs(luup.devices) do
   if attr.device_type == "urn:schemas-micasaverde-com:device:VeraConnectWWN:1" then
      nestDeviceFound = true
      break
   end
end

luup.log("(Vera Connect WWN)::(NestStartupCode) : Nest device found: " .. tostring(nestDeviceFound))

if not nestDeviceFound then
   local curlCommand = "curl -k -v -X DELETE https://api.home.nest.com/oauth2/access_tokens/c.HgnOek9slVWvUMUdBVfbiLIOWqwuvSOOFOJQvb4gbsUpP9qzhytbRsVFvhVCCe5PzlvW1X6acGztTPZ4SZMTpsaQaXfq9wWiqmhpHajoN7DVOsYW0eFvo1I2yGVga8H9yrt5AMdxn8MRLHD6"
   luup.log("(Vera Connect WWN)::(NestStartupCode) : Deauthorizing last Nest account. Command: " .. curlCommand)
   local stdout = io.popen(curlCommand)
   local response = stdout:read("*a")
   luup.log("(Vera Connect WWN)::(NestStartupCode) : Response: " .. response)
   stdout:close()

   if not response:find("error") then

      local oldStartupCode = luup.attr_get("StartupCode", 0) or ""
      local encodedLua = luup.attr_get("encoded_lua", 0) or ""

      if encodedLua == "1" then
         oldStartupCode = mime.unb64(oldStartupCode) or ""
      end

      local delimiter1 = "-- Nest deauth check begin --"
      local delimiter2 = "-- Nest deauth check end --"

      local oldStartupCode1Limit = string.find(oldStartupCode, delimiter1)

      local newStartupCode = oldStartupCode:gsub("\r?\n?" .. delimiter1:gsub("%-", "%%%-") .. ".*" .. delimiter2:gsub("%-", "%%%-"), "")

      if encodedLua == "1" then
         newStartupCode = mime.b64(newStartupCode) or ""
      end

      luup.attr_set("StartupCode", newStartupCode, 0)
   end

end
-- Nest deauth check end --
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: rohitgupta on December 19, 2016, 02:40:19 pm
Is there anyway I can check Battery Status of Nest through VeraConnect WWN?

Thanks

-RG
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: Zoro on December 25, 2016, 04:37:11 pm
Hi--

   I have two different house locations in my NEST account. The first one displays fine, the second gives me the error "Can't detect device." Anyone have any ideas?

Z
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: echoman on December 27, 2016, 04:23:23 pm
I'm getting the same "Can't detect device" after it completed the pairing and is properly displaying the temperature and humidity. 
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: ppdan on January 02, 2017, 09:09:25 am
Hi,
I have a bit different problem, a Nest smoke detector has been working fine for me for a couple of months. It had to be re-authorized 2-3 times but otherwise everything was fine. For about a week now I can not authorize the device again. I do reach the nest page and when I press the continue button to get the PIN code to be pasted back to Vera I get a fault message:

An error occured.
Connecting to MiOS is currently unavailable. Please contact MiOS, Limited for more information.

On the Nest home page I have found the previously added Vera, tried to delete it and did even get an authorisation code once but the registration to Vera did not work. Can't even get a code since then. I have rebooted Vera, have removed and re-installed the plugin without success. Is this a problem on my side or has anybody else seen similar behaviour? Thanks
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: skr25 on January 02, 2017, 11:35:12 am
I am having same problem as you said.
An error occured.
Connecting to MiOS is currently unavailable. Please contact MiOS, Limited for more information.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: tomtcom on January 02, 2017, 11:47:03 am
I am having same problem as you said.
An error occured.
Connecting to MiOS is currently unavailable. Please contact MiOS, Limited for more information.

Take a look here:
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,41263.msg303846.html#msg303846

Vera's amount of connection tokens to Nest has reached its limit. They are "working on" getting it increased to unlimited.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: ppdan on January 05, 2017, 05:08:19 am
Thanks for the information. Now I managed to set up a connection, all looks good.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: fossilnews on January 05, 2017, 05:25:56 pm
Thanks for the information. Now I managed to set up a connection, all looks good.

How?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: tomtcom on January 05, 2017, 05:51:23 pm
Thanks for the information. Now I managed to set up a connection, all looks good.

How?

Mine works now too. Just go back in the Vera UI, go to your authorize tab, follow the link. It gives you a pin code. Copy that into the box back on Vera UI and it will connect.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: tomtcom on January 05, 2017, 08:42:34 pm
On a side note after authorizing, the setup worked fine. Then I get the dreaded error "error in lua scene or events". It caused my minimote to stop working as well.

I posted an error screenshot of lua startup here > http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,41416.msg304586.html#msg304586

You can see where I show the tooltip error message. I uninstalled the Vera Nest plugin and had to delete all the Nest authorization code and the error went away. I indicated I didn't actually have my Nest Protect set up yet, just the account and linking. I don't know if that would make a difference so if this happens to anyone I think a support ticket is needed unless someone answers my thread or an actual device is required to be functional first. Just letting you all know.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: fossilnews on January 05, 2017, 09:24:15 pm
Thanks for the information. Now I managed to set up a connection, all looks good.

How?

Mine works now too. Just go back in the Vera UI, go to your authorize tab, follow the link. It gives you a pin code. Copy that into the box back on Vera UI and it will connect.

I'm still getting the same error "An error occured. Connecting to MiOS is currently unavailable. Please contact MiOS, Limited for more information."  Did you have to reinstall the app or log in/out of your nest account before authorizing?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: tomtcom on January 05, 2017, 09:30:29 pm
Thanks for the information. Now I managed to set up a connection, all looks good.

How?

Mine works now too. Just go back in the Vera UI, go to your authorize tab, follow the link. It gives you a pin code. Copy that into the box back on Vera UI and it will connect.

I'm still getting the same error "An error occured. Connecting to MiOS is currently unavailable. Please contact MiOS, Limited for more information."  Did you have to reinstall the app or log in/out of your nest account before authorizing?

When ppdan said he got it working I simply tried the authorize link. It worked and I got the code, that was it. So either someone else removed their vera account and it "temporarily" freed up a slot or they are "in process" of adding more tokens but not done yet. I couldn't say.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: fossilnews on January 06, 2017, 12:33:36 am
@tomtcom... got a code, and it's working.  Time to play the lottery.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: tomtcom on January 06, 2017, 08:37:13 pm
@tomtcom... got a code, and it's working.  Time to play the lottery.
Did it work?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: tomtcom on January 13, 2017, 11:51:25 am
New side note...

I'm still using the Wink to bring my Nest Protect into Vera. While randomly searching the mios app store, I came across this:
http://apps.mios.com/plugin.php?id=8871

This does appear "new". I think, at least according to the category it is in. I'm wondering if this app actually removes the startup lua for nest authorization when you uninstall the Vera nest app.

Just an FYI to anyone.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: chuck1026 on January 15, 2017, 03:12:56 pm
I'm getting the same "Can't detect device" after it completed the pairing and is properly displaying the temperature and humidity.

Same here. Can't seem to get the red frowny house icon to go green and smile again. Anybody find a fix?

VeraPlus
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: ppdan on January 16, 2017, 08:15:04 am
It worked for me for a couple of days and now I have the same problem again for about a week so I don't think this is solved.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: chuck1026 on January 16, 2017, 09:17:19 am
It worked for me for a couple of days and now I have the same problem again for about a week so I don't think this is solved.

I hope there Vera has a fix soon. I was going to uninstall and re-install the app but I hate to do it... lots of side-work with scenes when I change a device number and so on.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: peanutlasko on January 17, 2017, 05:57:12 pm
I was having the same problem everyone else has reported but was able to fix the issue.

I did this by going to the nest website (https://home.nest.com) logging in, clicking in the upper right corner (three horizontal lines), clicking "Account", choosing "Works with Nest" and removing all connections from MiOS.

After all of them were deleted, I re-did the activation token inside Vera and was able to get a security code and now my Nest Works again.

I should also mention I uninstalled/reinstalled the plugin in my Vera before trying this and it didn't fix the issue.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: bsteimel on January 23, 2017, 02:26:46 pm
I second the last person.  I removed the connection on the nest site and re-authorized and everything is now fine. 
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: ickyb0d on January 24, 2017, 11:14:03 am
For what it's worth, I had been unable to get mine to re-auth until i did the following:

Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: dfortier on January 24, 2017, 02:42:28 pm
Tried that and no luck for me.  However, there are no connections under my works with nest page for me to delete.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: Ghostm on January 24, 2017, 09:44:00 pm
Is anyone able to adjust the nest when using Celsius in .5 degree increments which is how the nest works in Celsius?  I am amazed this does not work along with a host of other things, vera and the developer seemingly have abandoned support for the most popular thermostat on the market, its a mess.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: rafale77 on January 26, 2017, 05:55:33 am
It seems like the app autoupdated and the new version now constantly shows my CO sensors as tripped causing all my sirens to scream.
I need a link to downgrade to the version before 0.67

Help!!
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: rafale77 on January 26, 2017, 06:20:34 am
It seems like the app autoupdated and the new version now constantly shows my CO sensors as tripped causing all my sirens to scream.
I need a link to downgrade to the version before 0.67

Help!!

Found it myself

Code: [Select]
http://<yourveraip>:3480/data_request?id=action&serviceId=urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:HomeAutomationGateway1&action=CreatePlugin&PluginNum=8151&Version=32600

Will bring back V0.48

Andrei... you got an annoying bug to fix on 0.67!
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: Zoro on January 26, 2017, 04:34:26 pm
For what it's worth, I had been unable to get mine to re-auth until i did the following:

  • Uninstall the VeraConnect WWN
  • Install the VeraConnect WWN Deauthorization Service
  • Uninstall the VeraConnect WWN Deauthorization Service
  • Remove ALL WWN connections in my Nest Account (previously had a bunch of Amazon Echo connections as well)
  • Logout of my Nest account
  • Install the VeraConnect WWN
  • Click the Authorize link and authorize WWN with my account

@ickyb0d

  I tried this and everything seemed to work until I tried to re-install the Vera Connect WWN. It said it was already installed (but I wasn't listed in my apps). Any ideas?

Z

UPDATE: I used altui to delete the Vera Connect WWN plugin and once that was accomplished your procedure above worked. Thanks
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: Marc Shenker on January 26, 2017, 05:59:40 pm
Bases on what is being said here there appears to be an issue in the plugin.

I have already sent a message to the Connected Devices Team that they will see when they get in. 

What would help us identify the issue and resolve it would be to have a user or users submit a ticket with Customer Customer with verbose logging turned on and remote access enabled and the code in the ticket.

I have already asked our Team Lead to keep an eye out for incoming tickets on this issue.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: rafale77 on January 27, 2017, 01:09:17 am
Thanks Marc,

See I am not the only one having this problem:
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,46925.0.html

The latest 0.67 version is falsely reporting all the nest protects (I have 3) CO sensors to be tripped. I did not dig into the code and just downgraded to 0.48
I don't have the good habit of collecting logs but I think this would be fairly easy to reproduce and should not require any log.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: guest161209 on January 27, 2017, 09:38:31 am
Hello everybody!

My first post here, I'm the Connected Objects Manager that handles the team responsible for plugin development.
First I would like to thank you for pointing us the problem, we really appreciate having you guys coming with feedback and sometimes solutions even before us.
We were so busy with the Nest thermostat these days that we dropped the ball on the CO detector, we've identified the problem in the plugin and fixed it and we're still doing our final checks before releasing a new version next week.

While we do our checks and especially for those of you that don't want to wait another weekend, how about you guys take a look at it for yourself now? Just bare in mind that it's unreleased and it might still hold a few surprises, we certainly hope not.

Also! Big BIG note here: Before jumping to it, please note that using it disables further auto updates for this specific plugin, the guys that also rolled back to the previous version should note this as well so when we come back with the official fix you'll need to uninstall and reinstall the plugin to have it automatically update in the future! Just so you know.

http://<yourveraip>:3480/data_request?id=action&serviceId=urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:HomeAutomationGateway1&action=CreatePlugin&PluginNum=8151&Version=33046

The <yourveraip> should be replaced appropriately with your controller's IP. The difference from the previously reported URL is the number at the end being 33046 instead of just 32600 so you can always roll back using the same URL pattern but with the other older version number.

As I said, we value your feedback so we expect more of it and of course we'll give our best in acting on it.

Thank you!
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: hellovn on January 27, 2017, 10:20:07 am
Your link upgrades the plugin to v. 0.68. I will report if i still see the false alarm.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: tomtcom on January 27, 2017, 12:12:51 pm
Thanks Mircea for the details.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: hellovn on January 27, 2017, 02:36:45 pm
I have not received any false alarms with 0.68.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: guest161209 on January 30, 2017, 08:45:30 am
Hello all,

I am happy to announce you that we released 0.68 officially so you can just go to the plugin and uninstall/re-install it to have this CO issue corrected.

Thank you!
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: rafale77 on February 01, 2017, 02:02:01 pm
Working for a few days and just within the past hour I am now getting a:

"Could not connect to Nest Servers! Please Reload your engine in order to try again!"

When I reload the Luup engine, I get the message that my token was not properly saved and I need to de-authorize and reauthorize again, which I did but it brings back the previous message...

Did Nest change something?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: pnakashian on February 01, 2017, 02:23:48 pm
I got the same exact problem within the past hour.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: blackbirdx31 on February 02, 2017, 09:54:00 am
hello,

i just recieved my nest and installed the wwn plugin.
now when i try to put my temperature up the blue bar at the top says: Vera Connect WWN Plugin : blocked
i am running a vera plus (edge) on ui7 the nest is authenticated and it recognizes the temperature i set on the nest it self only it will not change anything when i put the temperature up from the app or from the webpage. does any one know how to fix this?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: rafale77 on February 02, 2017, 01:45:37 pm
Working for a few days and just within the past hour I am now getting a:

"Could not connect to Nest Servers! Please Reload your engine in order to try again!"

When I reload the Luup engine, I get the message that my token was not properly saved and I need to de-authorize and reauthorize again, which I did but it brings back the previous message...

Did Nest change something?

Problem went away when I came home yesterday by re-authorizing and is re-occuring again today at about the same time...
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: guest161209 on February 03, 2017, 04:02:26 am
Hi guys, just to confirm. You do have the 0.68 while these issues are happening right? We've had a fix just for this made in 0.67/0.68.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: rafale77 on February 03, 2017, 11:23:24 am
I am running 0.68. I contacted nest. Problem started at about 10:30am pacific time and went away when I reauthorized at 11:45am.
I suspected a server problem. I even tried downgrading to 0.48 and tested and it didn't work either. I would reauthorize and the app would not be able to connect to the API.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: hellovn on February 04, 2017, 10:29:42 am
WWN bricked my Veraplus last night. I had to unplug and plug it again. Here are the logs before my Veraplus was bricked.

50   02/04/17 4:30:14.134   luup_log:120: VeraConnectWWN::getNestStreamPids> Got output: 12731

 <0x74be7520>

50   02/04/17 4:30:14.135   luup_log:120: VeraConnectWWN::isStreaming> Streaming: true <0x74be7520>

50   02/04/17 4:30:24.134   luup_log:120: VeraConnectWWN::getNestStreamPids> Got output: 12731

 <0x74be7520>

50   02/04/17 4:30:24.134   luup_log:120: VeraConnectWWN::isStreaming> Streaming: true <0x74be7520>

01   02/04/17 4:30:25.309   UserData::WriteUserData saved--before move File Size: 101926 save size 101926 <0x769e7520>

02   02/04/17 4:30:25.309   UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x769e7520>

02   02/04/17 4:30:25.333   UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 5216 res:1
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: hellovn on February 04, 2017, 11:35:24 am
With the new firmware (v. 0.68), I am going this plugin request for every 10 seconds in the log.

50   02/04/17 12:32:00.133   luup_log:262: VeraConnectWWN::getNestStreamPids> Got output: 5801
50   02/04/17 12:32:00.134   luup_log:262: VeraConnectWWN::isStreaming> Streaming: true <0x730b7520>
50   02/04/17 12:32:10.133   luup_log:262: VeraConnectWWN::getNestStreamPids> Got output: 5801
50   02/04/17 12:32:10.134   luup_log:262: VeraConnectWWN::isStreaming> Streaming: true <0x730b7520>
50   02/04/17 12:32:20.134   luup_log:262: VeraConnectWWN::getNestStreamPids> Got output: 5801
50   02/04/17 12:32:20.134   luup_log:262: VeraConnectWWN::isStreaming> Streaming: true <0x730b7520>
50   02/04/17 12:32:30.133   luup_log:262: VeraConnectWWN::getNestStreamPids> Got output: 5801
50   02/04/17 12:32:30.134   luup_log:262: VeraConnectWWN::isStreaming> Streaming: true <0x730b7520>
50   02/04/17 12:32:40.133   luup_log:262: VeraConnectWWN::getNestStreamPids> Got output: 5801
50   02/04/17 12:32:40.134   luup_log:262: VeraConnectWWN::isStreaming> Streaming: true <0x730b7520>
50   02/04/17 12:32:50.141   luup_log:262: VeraConnectWWN::getNestStreamPids> Got output: 5801
50   02/04/17 12:32:50.142   luup_log:262: VeraConnectWWN::isStreaming> Streaming: true <0x730b7520>
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: mcvflorin on February 06, 2017, 03:37:10 am
@hellovn

The plugin didn't brick your unit, it's probably something else. What you see every 10 seconds in the log is a function in the plugin which checks if the streaming process is still running. The plugin gets the updates from Nest using a streaming process. Without this process, the plugin can't update the status of the thermostat. That function only gets the list of running processes and checks if the streaming process is among them, it doesn't do anything which can lead to a Vera crash.

TempLogFileSystemFailure is a LuaUPnP function which logs some info about the file system, in the hope of catching an issue reported by some users about their user_data getting corrupted. Its presence in the logs does not indicate an issue. The function appears every time the user_data is written on the disk.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: Explosive on February 06, 2017, 09:30:03 am
After the update to 0.68, my Nest keeps putting the home state of the thermostat to 'Away'.
Funny thing is, I disabled this functionality in my Nest account (since I want Vera to handle this).

Could this maybe have to do anything with 'EcoAutoMode' setting under the device variables in my Vera (currently set to '5')?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: tbully on February 14, 2017, 10:44:01 am
I've been searching a bit and can't find a clear answer..... 

Is there a way to manually set Nest to Unoccupied/Away/Auto-Away/Eco  (whatever the heck they're calling it these days).   With GeoFencing, a host of motion sensors, etc, I know the occupancy status of my home better than Nest does.  I'd really like to force it to the appropriate mode depending on Vera's knowledge of occupancy.

(p.s. I'm still also running the old Nest plugin until I can fully trust the WWN version - it does seem to be getting better)
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: guest161209 on February 15, 2017, 01:11:19 am
@tbully: Nest wants to have user input before setting the thermostat to do anything. This kind of ruins the whole concept of setting it automatically to anything without user input, including the Unoccupied/Away/Auto-Away/Eco. The old plugin was pulled from the store also at the explicit and direct request of Nest just because of this. All I can say now is that we're in the process of discussing this with Nest.

All this is in the top of our priority list as we're making changes in other areas as well.
Unfortunately, as far as we can see it's becoming more of a trend with devices that come with their Cloud services and probably this has to do with legal aspects and possible risks of litigation. It's definitely something that's on our radar.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: tbully on February 15, 2017, 08:47:15 am
@Mircea-Ionut Teletin - Thanks for the response.   This is what I predicted.  Can you please keep us in the loop on the status of this?   Luckily I still have the old plugin working.

Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: scottymac on February 16, 2017, 08:57:36 am
Hi Guys,

My Nest is working fine if I go into the device I can change the temp up and down etc but when I create a scene to set the temp I cannot change it. Does anyone else have this issue?

Thanks
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: tbully on February 16, 2017, 10:26:30 am
Hi Guys,

My Nest is working fine if I go into the device I can change the temp up and down etc but when I create a scene to set the temp I cannot change it. Does anyone else have this issue?

Thanks

Check out the previous two posts.   That's likely it.   BS, in my opinion.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: roelofzo on February 19, 2017, 11:10:41 pm
anyone care to upload 0.48? where could i find it?

thx! ;D
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: detailme on February 20, 2017, 04:11:29 am
Hi, seems a common problem on the latest version as people have left reviews for the plugin stating the same problem.
Once installed, the pluggin states it needs to be authorized etc but the app isnt showing on the dashboard anywhere.
Tried reinstalling but its still not showing. I have open a case with vera but any ideas people!?
I have UI5, hopefully that isn't the issue

Many thanks
Chris
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: guest161209 on February 21, 2017, 08:06:39 am
@detailme: The latest Nest plugin works only with UI7, so I'm afraid this is the likely reason. Also you'll need the latest firmware as we made some changes to to assist the plugin in fixing some of the bad stuff we had.

@roelofzo: All versions are available, you just need to know the URL to it. See previous posts for 0.48 if this is what you really want to do, however, there are a lot of fixes in 0.68 (like auth/deauth issues that were present before).

@tbully: It's inconvenient but we aim for this to be temporary. We're not resting on our hands. We had some similar road blocks with Alexa and we got past them. Imagine a burglar shouting loud through the window: Alexa open garage door. If we solved this we're going to get past these problems as well. Some small news here, we're reworking the way our thermostat UI looks on mobile and web, hint: 1/2 set points anyone?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: drewcovi on February 24, 2017, 01:06:08 pm
@mcvflorin @Mircea-Ionut Teletin

It seems the latest version of this plugin has a misalignment with "auto-away" status. It appears in the user_data request, but not in the UI.  I know that "auto-away" is now depreciated (as per Nest Developer documentation).  Shouldn't this instead be Away then?

Right now when geofencing triggers away from the Nest, nothing is selected in UI7 (because the Nest Presence widget only accounts for Home and Away).
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: guest161209 on June 06, 2017, 10:32:46 am
I have great news! We'll be back with an announcement!
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: doctorkb on June 07, 2017, 05:25:04 pm
I have great news! We'll be back with an announcement!

You had me on pins and needles for 24 hours.  Still no announcement! :(
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: gPaq on June 14, 2017, 10:15:23 pm
I have great news! We'll be back with an announcement!

You had me on pins and needles for 24 hours.  Still no announcement! :(

Likely related to announcement (received copy in email)...

"We?re excited to announce that the 7.21 software update will be released on Monday June,19. It includes a broad array of bug fixes, performance improvements, and new device interoperability.
 
Important: As a customer with Nest devices connected to your Vera controller, we want to make sure you?re ready to take full advantage of our newest and most full featured Works with Nest plug-in, as soon as it is available."
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: guest161209 on June 15, 2017, 03:29:41 am
Hi Guys!

Happy to announce that we're going to release a proper Works With Nest plugin + firmware + mobile apps that we worked really hard for together with Nest! They've been instrumental in helping us improve your experience and we had great communication while working. We're Nest users ourselves so we put some extra passion on this last bits of work.

For all of you, next Monday you'll all be able to upgrade to our latest firmware version 7.21 and we'll be releasing mobile apps (iOS first, Android a tad later) and the newest and shiniest Works With Nest plugin.

I'm sure you'll all appreciate the work we've put into this one as we've changed a few things in how we work as a team internally and the results should speak for themselves.

Now for the hard part: Some of the things we wanted to do for Nest needed deep changes in our firmware and mobile apps so this means that for the new Nest Plugin that we'll be releasing to work you also need the latest firmware otherwise the plugin will refuse to start. Our mobile apps also need to be the latest we'll be releasing (Android will be released after iOS).

We've also used this opportunity to make all of the thermostats better with our platform so we've made a lot of changes and improvements with this regard and thermostats in general will get a lot better down the line really fast! We've moved back to 2 set-points instead of just one and we've planned better support in general for thermostats that have special set modes like Eco and so on. This is not just a platform improvement but for the mobile apps as well. All three of them!

Bonus: We're working on the Windows app for Nest, I know a lot of developers are leaving Windows behind... we just don't do this and it will be just as great (if not better in some areas) as the iOS and Android app! This is in the works now and we have nothing official that we can release at this point, I'm just giving away info because this forum is special!

This release does not mean we'll stop working for the Nest integration! We still have work to do and we'll get back with more (room and custom device name synchronization between the devices and our platform) so expect more! This is one of the key improvements we made internally, projects will be more actively maintained.

We have plenty of work ahead of us in other areas as well (Alexa, Phillips Hue) so expect more good news!
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: anyra on June 19, 2017, 12:36:35 pm
So is this delayed? Monday 19, and I don't see anything about the upgrades
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: doctorkb on June 19, 2017, 12:41:31 pm
So is this delayed? Monday 19, and I don't see anything about the upgrades

When I checked for new firmware on my Plus just now, it found it and is currently doing the upgrade...
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: anyra on June 19, 2017, 02:16:33 pm
I have Vera Secure and it still saying "Your firmware is up to date Current Version1.7.2817"
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: fossilnews on June 19, 2017, 03:31:54 pm
So I just upgraded to the newest firmware and everything seems to be working.  Under my apps I currently have "VeraConnect WWN" and "VeraConnect WWN Deauthorization Service" installed.  Does this mean I can delete them now since the new firmware natively supports Nest?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: guest161209 on June 20, 2017, 03:07:11 am
So, a few things:

1. The firmware roll out takes 24H so it might take up to 24H to receive the update notification then the update begins. Also Monday might mean a different thing depending on where you're on the planet. We're talking here US Pacific time. So remember, 24H roll out period, Pacific time, this means the update is ongoing still at the time of me writing this message.

2. The firmware does not support NEST just by itself! You badly need that plugin and you need it updated! I don't know from where this came but you need both! Do NOT DELETE the plugin! If you do so you'll need to put it back of course but don't expect Nest to work without it.

3. Also, if you have Alexa you might wanna check it out  ;)

4. Please, when updating, give the controller proper time to update because I've heard of a few cases where people power cycled the unit while updating or had their update finished while on call with our customer care (which is not that bad in itself). It might take some good minutes so be patient. For any problem don't hesitate to contact our customer are as they'll be helpful as always. Also, please keep writing here because we'll be listening in.


Thank you!
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: anyra on June 20, 2017, 08:12:09 am
1. The firmware roll out takes 24H so it might take up to 24H to receive the update notification then the update begins. Also Monday might mean a different thing depending on where you're on the planet. We're talking here US Pacific time. So remember, 24H roll out period, Pacific time, this means the update is ongoing still at the time of me writing this message.

So what will be the new Nest Plugin version #?
I'm asking because at -3 hours of the "24 hour" firmware roll out I still not receiving the upgrade option, but I don't know if the plugin have updated since it is with the autoupdate status
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: guest161209 on June 20, 2017, 08:48:49 am
About what firmware version you should have now here: http://support.getvera.com/customer/en/portal/articles/2826103-ui7-%E2%96%BE-software-update-%E2%96%BE-version-7-0-21-%E2%96%BE-june-19-2017-%E2%96%BE-1-7-947-1-7-2931-1-7-2935-1-7-2937-?b_id=712

with some details for Nest here: http://support.getvera.com/customer/portal/articles/2824778-important-vera-7-0-21-software-update-and-works-with-nest-compatibility?utm_source=Social%20Media&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=Works_with_nest&utm_content=Works_with_nest_support

The plugin version for Works With Nest should be: 1.104
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: Explosive on June 20, 2017, 08:51:17 am
When will the updated iOS app be available?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: guest161209 on June 20, 2017, 08:52:52 am
iOS is available in the store NOW.

Android later (start of next month).
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: Explosive on June 20, 2017, 08:54:43 am
Do you happen to know the version number.
I have version 3.5 installed.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: anyra on June 20, 2017, 08:55:34 am
About what firmware version you should have now here: http://support.getvera.com/customer/en/portal/articles/2826103-ui7-%E2%96%BE-software-update-%E2%96%BE-version-7-0-21-%E2%96%BE-june-19-2017-%E2%96%BE-1-7-947-1-7-2931-1-7-2935-1-7-2937-?b_id=712

with some details for Nest here: http://support.getvera.com/customer/portal/articles/2824778-important-vera-7-0-21-software-update-and-works-with-nest-compatibility?utm_source=Social%20Media&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=Works_with_nest&utm_content=Works_with_nest_support

The plugin version for Works With Nest should be: 1.104

Yes, that was my concern. My plugin is already in 1.104 but I still not have the firmware update? Should I still waiting or contact support?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: guest161209 on June 20, 2017, 09:44:53 am
As far as the iOS app goes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/veramobile/id787203434?mt=8

3.5 is the latest version and is the right version to use.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: fossilnews on June 20, 2017, 10:08:39 am
Thanks for the reply @Mircea-Ionut Teletin.  Just wanted to let you know that when I emailed this question into support I got the following reply:

Quote
Thank you for contacting Vera Smart Home Control.

Yes, you can delete them and after that you?ll need to install again the plugin from Devices ?> Add device ?> Thermostats ?> Nest Thermostat and install it.

FWIW I did what they said and then just reinstalled the plugin and things worked again.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: guest161209 on June 20, 2017, 10:52:56 am
@fossilnews: This might be because you've previously manually installed a beta plugin and the auto-update gets disabled when you manually take charge of installing a plugin. The system assumes you know what you're doing and it doesn't override your manually installed plugin otherwise it will be like an uphill battle. I'm glad you got it sorted out.

Let me know how's the iOS app and how is your Thermostat behaving with our latest changes.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: fossilnews on June 20, 2017, 10:57:16 am
I'm on Android and the weather here has been amazing for a while so I can't comment on how either is working. :/
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: jlkinsel on June 20, 2017, 11:12:59 am
I just logged into my Vera from off-site to check on something, only to find

Quote
Vera Connect WWN : This plugin requires firmware version 1.7.2745 or newer

And all my Nest components are offline.

There's zero chance I'd do a firmware update when I'm not physically present, so really what you just did was knock my Nest devices off my Vera for about 3-4 weeks.

I've updated the config so it won't auto-apply updates in the future, but in the future, could you maybe consider checking for firmware requirements before the update, not after? Any other OS packaging system I can think of does this.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: guest161209 on June 21, 2017, 04:44:00 am
@fossilnews: you should wait for next month's release. The new app has tons of improvements and changes.

@jlkinsel: We are aware of this limitation. We have the improvement in our backlog with high priority and we're going to change it platform wise. We apologize for this situation, as a workaround you could use Nest's app as a remote for your thermostats until the firmware upgrade can be done. Once all the upgrades done everything should work a lot better than before.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: beachboync on June 21, 2017, 11:43:01 am
I am quite disappointed with the latest Nest plugin. From the hype, I had expected more.

The WWN plugin previously was able to set temperature from my UI7 VeraLite, but I couldn't control fan speed or set mode. I worked with support for a number of days trying to get fan control working, and also working from a scene. The final status was that I should wait for the new plugin.

Well, here it is. I can set the temp from UI7 and also set modes and fan control when I click on Settings. But the fan is not on/off, just on for a period of time. Some progress.

But there is still no way to set the fan from within a script. Support has again been looking for a way for 2 days now, with no result.

I do have a need to set the fans from within a script and this need remains unfulfilled.

Bob
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: mcvflorin on June 22, 2017, 08:39:06 am
@beachboync (Bob)

You can start the fan from a script using this HTTP request:
Code: [Select]
/data_request?id=action&DeviceNum=X&serviceId=urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:VeraConnectWWN1&action=StartFan&Duration=15or this Luup function:
Code: [Select]
luup.call_action("urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:VeraConnectWWN1", "StartFan", { ["Duration"] = "15" }, DEVICE_ID)Duration can be any of these values:
Code: [Select]
15, 30, 45, 60, 120, 240, 480, 960
Currently this is all the fan control the Nest API exposes. There aren't commands to start the fan for an undefined period of time, to stop the fan, to control its intensity or to schedule its run.
We'll implement additional features as the Nest API evolves over time and gives us more control over the thermostat functions.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: anyra on June 22, 2017, 09:30:32 am
Someone else is having issues with the plugin this morning? Mine is not starting. It is stuck in "Vera Connect WWN : Starting up...". I tried to deauthorized and it failed too
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: mcvflorin on June 22, 2017, 11:01:44 am
@anyra

Please contact Customer Care, if they won't be able to help you, at least we'll know where the problem lies.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: doctorkb on June 22, 2017, 11:23:06 am
Currently this is all the fan control the Nest API exposes. There aren't commands to start the fan for an undefined period of time, to stop the fan, to control its intensity or to schedule its run.
We'll implement additional features as the Nest API evolves over time and gives us more control over the thermostat functions.

That's actually not entirely true.

According to https://developers.nest.com/documentation/cloud/api-thermostat#fan_timer_active the variable "fan_timer_active" is read/write - which means you could stop the fan by writing "false" to that variable.

Furthermore, there is nothing preventing Vera from making a "turn on indefinitely" function that renews a 12-hour timer every 11 hours.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: beachboync on June 23, 2017, 08:21:45 am
Mcvflorin, that doesn't work. Support has tried for weeks and can't make it work. I finally gave them access to my Nest login codes so they could try it for themselves and haven't heard back in days.

I will try it again, just in case.

Edit: this is the full http code that Tudor in support implemented and did not work:

os.execute("http://127.0.0.1/port_3480/data_request?id=lu_action&output_format=json&DeviceNum=56&serviceId=urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:VeraConnectWWN1&action=StartFan&Duration=15")

Device 36 is not the parent device. There are 3 devices created - the parent Nest, Nest temp/mode and Nest home/away. 36 is the temp/mode device. Is that correct?

Thank you, Bob
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: guest161209 on June 23, 2017, 08:35:47 am
@doctorkb: about the indefinite turn on, that could turn off Nest and our certification. We can't do anything automatically without having the same kind of visual confirmation from the user as the thermostat does. There's a lot of things we can't do just because of this "legalese" with other devices as well (Alexa comes form the top of my mind now) that are cloud powered and that might cause liability discussions between all the involved parties. We had to go past a certification phase to be able to provide you with the functionality you've seen.

Other than this, work on Nest is ongoing, it's not finished so expect to see more. All this feedback is good feedback and we're reading every bit and word you're saying and if it's something we can do there's no reason we won't do it. The only thing that's stopping us right now to deliver more of Nest is the backlog of priorities we're churning now as there's a lot of things we're working on. The good news is that Nest is not that far in our backlog and we'll be back with more in a few weeks.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: guest161209 on June 23, 2017, 08:38:09 am
@beachboync: you said "for weeks" but that can't be true because we just released a new plugin + firmware combo that has this feature. Are you sure you have the latest versions of everything and that you went with this problem recently on Customer Care after all these latest updates?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: beachboync on June 23, 2017, 08:43:56 am
Thank you Mircea-Ionut Teletin.

My original support request was in fact on 5/17 before the latest update. My original request was just to know how to turn the fan on/off and was not version related. After much connecting to my Vera and experimentation back then, I was told to wait for the next release. I did. It still doesn't work.

Customer care currently has my remote access code and also my Nest login and password.

If in fact the problem is a Nest issue, I would just like to know so that I don't spend a lot of time on this.

Bob
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: anyra on June 23, 2017, 08:44:56 am
@anyra

Please contact Customer Care, if they won't be able to help you, at least we'll know where the problem lies.

I fixed my "connecting issue" by running an update app, even I had the last version 1.104, after the attempting update it start connecting again and no more issues so far
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: doctorkb on June 23, 2017, 11:23:40 am
@doctorkb: about the indefinite turn on, that could turn off Nest and our certification. We can't do anything automatically without having the same kind of visual confirmation from the user as the thermostat does. There's a lot of things we can't do just because of this "legalese" with other devices as well (Alexa comes form the top of my mind now) that are cloud powered and that might cause liability discussions between all the involved parties. We had to go past a certification phase to be able to provide you with the functionality you've seen.

Other than this, work on Nest is ongoing, it's not finished so expect to see more. All this feedback is good feedback and we're reading every bit and word you're saying and if it's something we can do there's no reason we won't do it. The only thing that's stopping us right now to deliver more of Nest is the backlog of priorities we're churning now as there's a lot of things we're working on. The good news is that Nest is not that far in our backlog and we'll be back with more in a few weeks.

If your conversations with Nest say that, then I guess that's life.

That doesn't change the fact that you neglected to respond to me pointing out that the "turn fan off" function has nothing to do with the Nest API's deficiencies, and everything to do with you not having implemented it.

Of course, if the API restrictions get too onerous, there is an unofficial API available.  You'd lose the WWN sticker, but you'd still "work with Nest" and have a lot more flexibility.

To the poster wanting more control - if you're decent with PHP, the unofficial API here: https://github.com/gboudreau/nest-api works great.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: beachboync on June 23, 2017, 01:44:30 pm
I just received a reply from "Don" in customer care. They modified the code to:

luup.inet.wget("http://127.0.0.1/port_3480/data_request?id=action&output_format=json&DeviceNum=56&serviceId=urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:VeraConnectWWN1&action=StartFan&Duration=15",10)

and it does seem to work.

I originally just wanted on/off, but on for a duration is OK. Now I just need OFF and will ask.

Bob
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: beachboync on June 23, 2017, 03:28:23 pm
Some more info.

Instead of:

luup.inet.wget("http://127.0.0.1/port_3480/data_request?id=action&output_format=json&DeviceNum=56&serviceId=urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:VeraConnectWWN1&action=StartFan&Duration=15",10)

you can create the same result by using the Advanced Editor, and add an action selecting the device, urn:micasaverde...Start Fan and set the duration.

The duration MUST be one of the standard durations that you see in the manual device fan control - i.e. 15,30,45, etc. 1 hour is of course duration=60.

Still waiting for OFF.

Bob
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: guest161209 on June 26, 2017, 03:04:54 am
@doctorkb:

I beg to differ. Nest is limiting the number of users a certain developer can route through their servers and even the rate of commands you can send to your thermostat. If you're not certified there's no access or the access is severely limited.

You now all have access to this functionality precisely because we got certified by Nest! Going the other way will just break things. We were even forced to get an unofficial plugin down from our store because we were held accountable by Nest and it was using "unofficial" or obsolete API. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to use Nest with Vera right now.

You can say all you want but I know for a fact that we're doing it the right way with Nest on board. Maybe we don't get things as fast as we would like so but this is because we're not cutting any corners.

If you're curious you can register as a developer on their portal and start looking at their review process, guidelines and API because nothing is hidden. You'll immediately notice that everything I said here is true.

I don't think that holding us accountable for something that Nest isn't providing for you as users in the first place is fair. You can use any 3rd party app out there, it's not Vera specific and you'll see the same thing, as for the fact that we didn't specifically told you that you can't do something with Nest and Vera... yes, we didn't do that but at the same time I think there's an bigger list of things that you can't do with Nest and Vera.

For example we chose to implement all the things that you can do with it and a bit more because we're working with Nest to convince them that we should be able to change the device name (room actually) with the ones you customize from Vera so it works both ways symmetrically because we think it's fair for our common users to do so and we're going to continue improving what we're providing to you guys. Have a little faith in us and you'll see that we're going to make it great for all of you.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: doctorkb on June 26, 2017, 10:28:47 am
@doctorkb:

I beg to differ. Nest is limiting the number of users a certain developer can route through their servers and even the rate of commands you can send to your thermostat. If you're not certified there's no access or the access is severely limited.

You now all have access to this functionality precisely because we got certified by Nest! Going the other way will just break things. We were even forced to get an unofficial plugin down from our store because we were held accountable by Nest and it was using "unofficial" or obsolete API. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to use Nest with Vera right now.

You can say all you want but I know for a fact that we're doing it the right way with Nest on board. Maybe we don't get things as fast as we would like so but this is because we're not cutting any corners.

If you're curious you can register as a developer on their portal and start looking at their review process, guidelines and API because nothing is hidden. You'll immediately notice that everything I said here is true.

I don't think that holding us accountable for something that Nest isn't providing for you as users in the first place is fair. You can use any 3rd party app out there, it's not Vera specific and you'll see the same thing, as for the fact that we didn't specifically told you that you can't do something with Nest and Vera... yes, we didn't do that but at the same time I think there's an bigger list of things that you can't do with Nest and Vera.

For example we chose to implement all the things that you can do with it and a bit more because we're working with Nest to convince them that we should be able to change the device name (room actually) with the ones you customize from Vera so it works both ways symmetrically because we think it's fair for our common users to do so and we're going to continue improving what we're providing to you guys. Have a little faith in us and you'll see that we're going to make it great for all of you.

You clearly aren't reading my posts thoroughly.

I gave you VERY clear instructions, referencing the Nest Official API on how you can "turn fan off" - a feature you say Nest hasn't implemented.  You continue to pass the buck.

Whether you had a take-down order or not about an unofficial plug-in is the subject of lore.  The fact is, an unofficial API exists, and it WORKS BETTER THAN THE OFFICIAL.

I'll note that in the several years that I have been using that unofficial API, the longest it stops working for is a day or two when Nest updates.  Cumulatively, I've had more downtime in the Vera WWN in the past *year* than I have in about 3 years with the unofficial API.  I'll reference the weeks-long issues you had following Christmas 2016.

The bottom line is that you're making decisions that seem to be "good" ones, but Nest isn't playing fair.  As most Vera users appear to be hobbyists that would also enjoy getting a Raspberry Pi set up and run the unofficial API that I referenced, I think you'll see lower uptake of the Vera WWN plug-in.  I should also point out that you still haven't managed to integrate Nest Cams with Vera - even displaying the live feed would be appreciated.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: guest161209 on June 27, 2017, 03:49:37 am
@doctorkb:

1. You might be right with the fan off option. And if so, as I previously said, all feedback is good feedback and we're reading it all, we're all in the same boat here.

2. We're not trying to corner our users in using just our plugin, we're trying to enable our users. All of our users because not all are hobbyists.

3. The Christmas 2016 issues are all related to the certification process and the number of concurrent users Nest allows to use with Vera. The certification I'm talking about just resolved this exact issue you're talking about. A lot of the recent work was put in things that are not that visible (like fan functions).

4. Nest Cams are on our backlog but you'll have to wait a bit for this.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: acucons on August 03, 2017, 09:16:59 pm
Hi, Did the upgrade and things worked fine, but now, my Vera reads the information from Nest correctly, but does not allow me to make any changes.  If I try to change the temperature for instance, I get a "Thermostat not online" message.  I just updated to most current FW, still broken.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
jack
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: acucons on August 05, 2017, 09:26:53 am
Hi,
After a more careful read, it appears that sometimes the WWn interface works and sometimes it doesnt based on the allowed concurrent sessions solely controlled by Nest.

Clearly, just like the web browser wars of a decade ago, there are a number of powerful companies that want to control the home automation gateway market, and what a better way to do it that to f*ck over folks like us that chose the open Vera system.

I am glad i dont have Nest cameras (I use HIK Vision which are top quality and work great with Vera) and i think i might get an ecobee thermostat and put my nest on ebay...
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: cc4005 on November 30, 2017, 09:06:59 am
Hi,
After a more careful read, it appears that sometimes the WWn interface works and sometimes it doesnt based on the allowed concurrent sessions solely controlled by Nest.

Clearly, just like the web browser wars of a decade ago, there are a number of powerful companies that want to control the home automation gateway market, and what a better way to do it that to f*ck over folks like us that chose the open Vera system.

I am glad i dont have Nest cameras (I use HIK Vision which are top quality and work great with Vera) and i think i might get an ecobee thermostat and put my nest on ebay...

Is this still an issue? Just purchased 2 Nest tstats and now rethinking the decision.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: GaryOkie on January 03, 2018, 10:34:45 am
@cc4005 - it should no longer be an issue, according to these 2 posts...

3. The Christmas 2016 issues are all related to the certification process and the number of concurrent users Nest allows to use with Vera. The certification I'm talking about just resolved this exact issue you're talking about.
... the described "blocked" limitation was only during the beta phase of the plugin. Since then, Vera WWN has been officially approved by Nest and it should work by Nest specs.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: shashankmittal on January 07, 2018, 12:55:23 am
I am on Veraconnect WWN 1.104 (the latest version as of 1/7/18). I am able to start the Nest Fan using the following:


Service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:VeraConnectWWN1
StartFan set to 15 minutes

...but there is no option to stop the fan. I tried SetMode to "off" and setfanspeed to 0, nothing works.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: rigpapa on March 19, 2018, 11:34:59 am
Version 1.116 today, not sure if there was an update over the weekend or something changed at Nest, but this plugin was working fine last week, today it dies on startup with the following logged:

Code: [Select]
50 03/19/18 11:20:23.873 luup_log:100: VeraConnectWWN::nestRequest> cmd: curl -k -s -S -L -X GET 'https://developer-api.nest.com?auth=[REDACTED]' -H 'Accept: application/json' -D '/tmp/NestHeaders.txt' 2>&1 <0x76eb8520>
50 03/19/18 11:20:24.714 luup_log:100: VeraConnectWWN::nestRequest> response: {"devices":{"thermostats":{"_GOhXslKs6oa4JvUaocbKZAqas8mi5h6":{"humidity":45,"locale":"en-US","temperature_scale":"F","is_using_emergency_heat":false,"has_fan":true,"software_version":"5.6.6-4","has_leaf":false,"where_id":"CiwrfD3y3eUzJRSgJJYez9IrcKtpjK3cN5YZUWoHZLbrKvwKyQOo3A","device_id":"_GOhXslKs6oa4JvUaocbKZAqas8mi5h6","name":"Terrace","can_heat":true,"can_cool":true,"target_temperature_c":20.0,"target_temperature_f":68,"target_temperature_high_c":22.5,"target_temperature_high_f":73,"target_temperature_low_c":21.0,"target_temperature_low_f":70,"ambient_temperature_c":21.0,"ambient_temperature_f":70,"away_temperature_high_c":24.0,"away_temperature_high_f":76,"away_temperature_low_c":15.5,"away_temperature_low_f":60,"eco_temperature_high_c":24.0,"eco_temperature_high_f":76,"eco_temperature_low_c":15.5,"eco_temperature_low_f":60,"is_locked":false,"locked_temp_min_c":20.0,"locked_temp_min_f":68,"locked_temp_max_c":22.0,"locked_temp_max_f":72,"sunlight_correction_active":false,"sunlight_correction_enabled":false,"structure_id":"QZAutvKzq_RiIOVKQ4t8eJHPlNX-KE3oQVAX13ztW-t92c-_bKZ45Q","fan_timer_active":false,"fan_timer_timeout":"1970-01-01T00:00:00.000Z","fan_timer_duration":120,"previous_hvac_mode":"","hvac_mode":"heat-cool","time_to_target":"~0","time_to_target_training":"ready","where_name":"Terrace","label":"","name_long":"Terrace Thermostat","is_online":true,"last_connection":"2018-03-19T15:16:48.967Z","hvac_state":"off"},"_GOhXslKs6pWowW-g75eMpAqas8mi5h6":{"humidity":50,"locale":"en-US","temperature_scale":"F","is_using_emergency_heat":false,"has_fan":true,"software_version":"5.6.6-4","has_leaf":false,"device_id":"_GOhXslKs6pWowW-g75eMpAqas8mi5h6","name":"Upstairs","can_heat":true,"can_cool":true,"target_temperature_c":20.0,"target_temperature_f":68,"target_temperature_high_c":22.0,"target_temperature_high_f":72,"target_temperature_low_c":20.0,"target_temperature_low_f":68,"ambient_temperature_c":20.5,"ambient_temperature_f":70,"away_temperature_high_c":24.0,"away_temperature_high_f":76,"away_temperature_low_c":15.5,"away_temperature_low_f":60,"eco_temperature_high_c":24.0,"eco_temperature_high_f":76,"eco_temperature_low_c":15.5,"eco_temperature_low_f":60,"is_locked":false,"locked_temp_min_c":20.0,"locked_temp_min_f":68,"locked_temp_max_c":22.0,"locked_temp_max_f":72,"sunlight_correction_active":false,"sunlight_correction_enabled":false,"structure_id":"QXActvKzq_RiJOVKQ4t8eJHPlNX-KE3ocEwX13ztW-t92c-_bKZ45Q","fan_timer_active":false,"fan_timer_timeout":"1970-01-01T00:00:00.000Z","fan_timer_duration":120,"previous_hvac_mode":"","hvac_mode":"heat-cool","time_to_target":"~0","time_to_target_training":"ready","label":"Upstairs","name_long":"Upstairs Thermostat","is_online":true,"last_connection":"2018-03-19T15:16:39.487Z","hvac_state":"off"},"_GOhXOyQs6rxXDZ0Qhl0K5Aqas8mi5h6":{"humidity":45,"locale":"en-US","temperature_scale":"F","is_using_emergency_heat":false,"has_fan":true,"software_version":"5.6.6-4","has_leaf":false,"device_id":"_GOhXOyQs6rxXDZ0Qhl0K5Aqas8mi5h6","name":"Main","can_heat":true,"can_cool":true,"target_temperature_c":20.0,"target_temperature_f":68,"target_temperature_high_c":22.0,"target_temperature_high_f":72,"target_temperature_low_c":20.0,"target_temperature_low_f":68,"ambient_temperature_c":20.5,"ambient_temperature_f":70,"away_temperature_high_c":24.0,"away_temperature_high_f":76,"away_temperature_low_c":17.5,"away_temperature_low_f":64,"eco_temperature_high_c":24.0,"eco_temperature_high_f":76,"eco_temperature_low_c":17.5,"eco_temperature_low_f":64,"is_locked":false,"locked_temp_min_c":20.0,"locked_temp_min_f":68,"locked_temp_max_c":22.0,"locked_temp_max_f":72,"sunlight_correction_active":false,"sunlight_correction_enabled":true,"structure_id":"QXActvKzq_RiJOVKQ4t8eJHPlNX-KE3ocEwX13ztW-t92c-_bKZ45Q","fan_timer_active":false,"fan_timer_timeout":"1970-01-01T00:00:00.000Z","fan_timer_duration":120,"previous_hvac_mode":"","hvac_mode":"heat-cool","time_to_target":"~0","time_to_target_training":"ready","label":"Main","name_long":"Main Thermostat","is_online":true,"last_connection":"2018-03-19T15:17:23.902Z","hvac_state":"off"}}},"structures":{"QXActvKzq_RiJOVKQ4t8eJHPlNX-KE3ocEwX13ztW-t92c-_bKZ45Q":{"name":"PTC-CH","country_code":"US","time_zone":"America/New_York","away":"home","thermostats":["_GOhXslKs6oa4JvUaocbKZAqas8mi5h6","_GOhXslKs6pWowW-g75eMpAqas8mi5h6","_GOhXslKs6rxXDZ0Qhl0K5Aqas8mi5h6"],"structure_id":"QXActvKzq_RiJOVKQ4t8eJHPlNX-KE3ocEwX13ztW-t92c-_bKZ45Q","wheres":{"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmIsYztTGND4rQ":{"where_id":"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmIsYztTGND4rQ","name":"Basement"},"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmJVj68necrkZA":{"where_id":"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmJVj68necrkZA","name":"Bedroom"},"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmJKQG_xDNHhNg":{"where_id":"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmJKQG_xDNHhNg","name":"Den"},"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmJ-eskgvf1FOg":{"where_id":"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmJ-eskgvf1FOg","name":"Dining Room"},"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmIZIgWxH8cJeg":{"where_id":"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmIZIgWxH8cJeg","name":"Downstairs"},"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmLNRSrJZWlnkA":{"where_id":"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmLNRSrJZWlnkA","name":"Entryway"},"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmLzqJjsmEYfMw":{"where_id":"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmLzqJjsmEYfMw","name":"Family Room"},"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmLFfbAo2zcQCA":{"where_id":"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmLFfbAo2zcQCA","name":"Hallway"},"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmJNRrqqzGVCrw":{"where_id":"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmJNRrqqzGVCrw","name":"Kids Room"},"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmJlbvXFyWicgg":{"where_id":"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmJlbvXFyWicgg","name":"Kitchen"},"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmIfN1AD1vHu3g":{"where_id":"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmIfN1AD1vHu3g","name":"Living Room"},"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmIkTkkWWj2obQ":{"where_id":"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmIkTkkWWj2obQ","name":"Master Bedroom"},"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmKHbe9V3nx6yg":{"where_id":"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmKHbe9V3nx6yg","name":"Office"},"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmIQow6tXHyTHQ":{"where_id":"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmIQow6tXHyTHQ","name":"Upstairs"},"CiwrfD3y3eUzJRSgJJYez9IrcKtpjK3cN5YZUWoHZLbrKvwKyQOo3A":{"where_id":"CiwrfD3y3eUzJRSgJJYez9IrcKtpjK3cN5YZUWoHZLbrKvwKyQOo3A","name":"Terrace"},"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmIem5RL3iddAA":{"where_id":"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmIem5RL3iddAA","name":"Backyard"},"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmKyATuR0YEFEw":{"where_id":"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmKyATuR0YEFEw","name":"Driveway"},"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmIaujWv8mm_mw":{"where_id":"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmIaujWv8mm_mw","name":"Front Yard"},"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmIJADyUBGXF4g":{"where_id":"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmIJADyUBGXF4g","name":"Outside"},"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmJvPoBnusW2Dw":{"where_id":"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmJvPoBnusW2Dw","name":"Guest House"},"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmJmPTX-Q8H47w":{"where_id":"8i3hYcca-P1sof-kImdVcipZPYMMkQsubq2Ms06UMmJmPTX-Q8H47w","name":"Guest Room"}}}},"metadata":{"access_token":"[REDACTED]","client_version":5,"user_id":"[REDACTED]"}} <0x76eb8520>
50 03/19/18 11:20:24.715 luup_log:100: VeraConnectWWN::nestRequest> Got headers: HTTP/1.1 307 Temporary Redirect
Content-Type: application/json; charset=UTF-8
Access-Control-Allow-Origin: *
Cache-Control: private, no-cache, no-store, max-age=0
Pragma: no-cache
Location: https://firebase-apiserver06-tah01-iad01.dapi.production.nest.com:9553/?auth=[REDACTED]
Connection: close
content-length: 0

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Content-Type: application/json; charset=UTF-8
Access-Control-Allow-Origin: *
Cache-Control: private, no-cache, no-store, max-age=0
Pragma: no-cache
Connection: close
content-length: 7799

 <0x76eb8520>
50 03/19/18 11:20:24.736 luup_log:100: VeraConnectWWN::appendDevices> Append thermostat: Main Thermostat <0x76eb8520>
50 03/19/18 11:20:24.737 luup_log:100: VeraConnectWWN::appendDevices> Append humidity sensor: Main Humidity Sensor <0x76eb8520>
50 03/19/18 11:20:24.737 luup_log:100: VeraConnectWWN::appendDevices> Append thermostat: Nest Thermostat <0x76eb8520>
50 03/19/18 11:20:24.738 luup_log:100: VeraConnectWWN::appendDevices> Append humidity sensor: Nest Humidity Sensor <0x76eb8520>
50 03/19/18 11:20:24.738 luup_log:100: VeraConnectWWN::appendDevices> Append thermostat: Upstairs Thermostat <0x76eb8520>
50 03/19/18 11:20:24.739 luup_log:100: VeraConnectWWN::appendDevices> Append humidity sensor: Upstairs Humidity Sensor <0x76eb8520>
50 03/19/18 11:20:24.739 luup_log:100: VeraConnectWWN::appendDevices> Append Home/Away: PTC-CH <0x76eb8520>
50 03/19/18 11:20:24.744 luup_log:100: VeraConnectWWN::Init> Update devices values <0x76eb8520>
01 03/19/18 11:20:24.745 LuaInterface::CallFunction_Startup-1 device 100 function VeraConnectWWNStartup failed [string "module("L_VeraConnectWWN1", package.seeall)..."]:812: attempt to index local 'whereName' (a nil value) <0x76eb8520>
01 03/19/18 11:20:24.746 LuImplementation::StartLua running startup code for 100 I_VeraConnectWWN1.xml failed <0x76eb8520>
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: uraax on March 25, 2018, 01:54:26 pm
Can anyone help with instructions how to change Nest "Home/Away" from a Vera scene?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: stardobas on April 15, 2018, 06:48:13 pm
YES, there is a. Plugin for vera to change mode... HouseModes plugin, install it. It create a new device, insert in in a scene and set a mode you want.

NOW THIS TOPIC...
WWN stop working on my vera, it can't read or set or control my nest... I try to reinstall plugin, try to reboot controller...but it is dead...please HELP ...I've a scene that close and turn off all... my termostat was on for 4 days... and I was out...beacouse controller didn't turn it off.... WHY??????
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: stardobas on April 20, 2018, 07:00:11 pm
PLEASE DON'T KILL EACH OTHER TO ANSWARE ME......PLEASE SURVIVE......ANSWARE ME MAY KILL YOU...
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: ggibeau on April 22, 2018, 10:33:25 am
Mine used to work - now I get the dreaded "Nest device not found" error message under the Vera Connect Works With Nest when I try to do anything to the Nest thermostat from within the dashboard. 

Between this, random weirdness with geo-fencing and my garage door opener not working, and the whole house electrical usage monitor falling offline all the time - I am thinking of moving to a different platform - and I have had Vera since the Vera-Lite days.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: therealdb on April 22, 2018, 01:10:25 pm
same here. I opened a ticket and support was able to fix it for me. I suspect they updated some files. I asked but I got no responses.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: stardobas on April 23, 2018, 12:20:50 pm
me too....but I solve it in another mode....I use ifttt webhooks inside vera that send an ifttt command to set temperature to 9 degrees when I launch the "close all" scene...
...I know it isn't the best way...but is ok for now... I launch the scene using google home (another ifttt command)... the execution of scene is 1 second...
...I want move to Hass.io....however for now ...for my test...Vera plus is the best way...for now....hass.io is more fast but more complicated than Vera...
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: stardobas on April 25, 2018, 01:03:00 pm
same here. I opened a ticket and support was able to fix it for me. I suspect they updated some files. I asked but I got no responses.
I wrote to support today... beacouse in official vera site they show nest is working...but it doesn't...

EDIT:

I opened a tiket... support is fantastic, I enabled support remote and they solve the problem...In less 24 our...never seen so fast, kind and efficent support...I think is the best!!! They solve my problem when I was sleeping..giving me a a gift when I get off the bed... I started this day smiling :)
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: dJOS on May 08, 2018, 07:44:45 pm
Can anyone help with instructions how to change Nest "Home/Away" from a Vera scene?

I can't work this out either, I already have a nest home/away Device in my list but I can't see it to use it in scenes or in modes. This is really annoying to say the least!
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: dJOS on May 08, 2018, 09:26:51 pm
I was hunting through the config etc of my VeraPlus and I noticed the Home/Away "device" shows as being in an "unknown category" and in the advanced screen it's category is 666.

Could this be the cause of my inability to use to in scenes and modes?
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: therealdb on May 20, 2018, 08:25:38 am
Nope, it's by design. Nest doesn't want 3rd party to interfere with their algorithm.
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: rigpapa on May 20, 2018, 10:29:06 am
As an experiment, try putting these code fragments in Lua your Home and Away scenes:

Code: [Select]
-- Set WWN mode to Away (maybe?)
luup.call_action( "urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:VeraConnectWWN1", "SetStructure", { newStructureValue = "away" }, HomeAwayDeviceNum )
return true

and

Code: [Select]
-- Set WWN mode to Home
luup.call_action( "urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:VeraConnectWWN1", "SetStructure", { newStructureValue = "home" }, HomeAwayDeviceNum )
return true

Make sure you replace HomeAwayDeviceNum with the device number of the Home/Away device (not the VeraConnectWWN master device or thermostats).
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: dJOS on May 20, 2018, 05:01:13 pm
Vera support actually provided me with a method that works well:

In order to set it as an action (change home / away), you have to select ?Advanced Editor? from the last step of making a scene. In the newStructureValue, you can put any mode you want (e.g home, away).
Title: Re: PLUGIN: New VeraConnect WWN (Work With Nest)
Post by: Joe Daring on February 23, 2019, 03:24:48 am
@dJOS  and @ALL,

Am I the only one that cannot write in the input box beside to "newStructureValue" in the advanced editor?
Not strictly related to this plugin, I guess...
Tried Firefox and Edge...

Thanks!