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Offline n0ir

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Re: Zipato Miny Keypad/RFiD
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2015, 04:18:46 am »
Hi!

Could anyone more knowledgeable in RFID tell me if this chip (https://dangerousthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/NTAG213_215_216.pdf) is compatible with the Zipato RFID reader?

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Re: Zipato Miny Keypad/RFiD
« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2015, 01:49:13 pm »
Anyone that is trying to get the notification sound to work can fire off this command:

luup.call_action("urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1", "SendData", { ["Node"] = luup.devices[DEVICE_ID_HERE].id, ["Data"] = "37 1 255" }, 1)

By default the notification will sound for 15 seconds.  This can be changed by setting Device Option 2 (type 1 Byte Dec) to the number of seconds you would like.  You can stop the sound by issuing the same action but replace 255 (ON) with 0 (OFF).

Bear in mind that this notification will only really be usful when arming the alarm (i.e. to inform the user that the alarm has been set) because you can only fire the notification sound when the device has been woken up, which only occurs when a code has been entered and is being validated, so you can't use it to inform someone returning home that the alarm needs to be unset for example.  This is the downside of battered powered devices.

Im totaly new at this...
Can anyone help me where I should put this code to get this function to work?

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Re: Zipato Miny Keypad/RFiD
« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2015, 02:48:39 pm »
I managed to install the keypad with the plugin ActiveRFID. It works great to activate my alarm but I can't see if it's armed or not. Have anyone solved this by getting the indicator light to blink while armed (away)?

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Re: Zipato Miny Keypad/RFiD
« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2015, 03:36:26 pm »
I managed to install the keypad with the plugin ActiveRFID. It works great to activate my alarm but I can't see if it's armed or not. Have anyone solved this by getting the indicator light to blink while armed (away)?

Hello DubbelAdam
Can you give us details of what setup you have? I have the VeraEdge running UI7...Were you able to setup more than one RFID Tag? Did the "Home" & "Away" buttons works as well, or just the RFID? Same question for the Keypad... Thx!

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Re: Zipato Miny Keypad/RFiD
« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2015, 01:01:13 pm »
Hmm...

Received my Zipato Mini Keypad today but can't seem to include it on my Vera Edge running UI7 v.1.7.1018.

I remove the back cover, press and hold the tamper switch. Get a muffled -...-...----- (-="beep", .=pause) and then nothing. If I then release the switch I get another ----- but the Vera doesn't find any new devices.

Is there a trick getting the Vera recognizing the keypad?

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Re: Zipato Miny Keypad/RFiD
« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2015, 05:55:12 am »
Seems to have solved the problem with including the device. I pressed too long! Just a short press on the keypad until the red LED on the front light up was enough.

Seems I can add PIN codes and register RFID tabs now using the app UI.

To use the keypad I press the home or away button, enter a PIN or swipe a RFID tab and my Vera change Mode to either Home or Away.

I can also use the kepad as a trigger in scenes or in PLEG. Limited functionality though, e.g. I can't use the home and away buttons themselves as triggers (would be nice to use the device as a scene controller).

The MAIN problem I have now is I can't find any way of NOT having the keypad trigger a change in House Mode! I would prefer to use the device as a scene trigger or using PLEG. Now the device ALWAYS seems to switch UI7 House Modes natively. Don't know how or if this is possible to deactivate.

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Re: Zipato Miny Keypad/RFiD
« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2015, 09:06:03 am »
I just became a cyborg and implanted a Mifare Ultralight C RFID chip in my hand? ;)

The reason behind it was (amongst other things, like using my hand instead of my RFID tag at work) to be able to lock my smart home using the RFID Tag Reader. However, the tag reader doesn't seem to recognize the chip when I try to add it.

The specification for the Mifare Ultralight C chip (http://www.mifare.net/files/1813/9782/9174/MIFARE_Ultralight_C_.pdf) states my implanted chip support ISO14443.

In the specifications for the tag reader (http://www.benext.eu/static/manual/tagreader.pdf) it states it support ISO15693, ISO18000-3, Tag-it? and RFID.

Am I out of luck?

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Re: Zipato Miny Keypad/RFiD
« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2015, 08:13:24 am »
Hey!

I just installed the zipato mini keypad in my Vera Edge with firmware 1.7.1181. Works like a charm! Immediately recognized as a keypad when adding it as a generic z-wave device, and easy setup regarding the rfid tag or keycodes, all self explanatory.
It seems you can add multiple rfid tags, as it looks like in the device setup possibilities, but since I have only one for the moment, can?t say this for sure. I did add already two keycodes, and they work flawlessly, giving info on the users, possibilities of email notifications etc, very nice.
Just ordered a few more tags, will let you know as soon as it works!

For the moment I have it working with the house modes plugin, but just saw it works directly as well into scene mode without it....
When I set it to away mode, one of my hue lamps lights up for 10 secs in red, then switches off. When asking for home mode, light will go green, and then to normal color.

Totally happy with it, only "complaints" from my side would be that a keypad with only 4 digits, is a pity (but not a problem), and the little box does not seem to be very sturdy or well fixed to its backing. For the rest all works well. Again, as soon as I have my extra tags, will let you know!

UPDATE:
The new tags arrived, and they can be added without a problem to the keypad!!!! All working well, be it that the keypad uses quite some battery (although it is not used that much). I am at 44 percent since installing it....

Eric
« Last Edit: July 07, 2015, 03:42:17 am by EricwithVera »

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Re: Zipato Miny Keypad/RFiD
« Reply #38 on: June 27, 2015, 10:18:22 am »
Is it possible to use this pad to lock and unlock a door latch via pin codes or tags?  I have a rental property and I would like to use it as access to the property with a code that I could generate remotely for every guest that I have.  When the customer leaves I would like to remove the used code, and generate a new code for the next guest.  All of this I have to be able to do remotely.

Thank you all in advance.

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Re: Zipato Miny Keypad/RFiD
« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2015, 07:45:54 pm »
Hi,

How did you add the other RFID tags? I'm using the Benext Tag reader and i'm a little lost

Hey!

I just installed the zipato mini keypad in my Vera Edge with firmware 1.7.1181. Works like a charm! Immediately recognized as a keypad when adding it as a generic z-wave device, and easy setup regarding the rfid tag or keycodes, all self explanatory.
It seems you can add multiple rfid tags, as it looks like in the device setup possibilities, but since I have only one for the moment, can?t say this for sure. I did add already two keycodes, and they work flawlessly, giving info on the users, possibilities of email notifications etc, very nice.
Just ordered a few more tags, will let you know as soon as it works!

For the moment I have it working with the house modes plugin, but just saw it works directly as well into scene mode without it....
When I set it to away mode, one of my hue lamps lights up for 10 secs in red, then switches off. When asking for home mode, light will go green, and then to normal color.

Totally happy with it, only "complaints" from my side would be that a keypad with only 4 digits, is a pity (but not a problem), and the little box does not seem to be very sturdy or well fixed to its backing. For the rest all works well. Again, as soon as I have my extra tags, will let you know!

UPDATE:
The new tags arrived, and they can be added without a problem to the keypad!!!! All working well, be it that the keypad uses quite some battery (although it is not used that much). I am at 44 percent since installing it....

Eric

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Re: Zipato Miny Keypad/RFiD
« Reply #40 on: July 14, 2015, 05:19:01 am »
I have the latest firmware of UI7 with the Vera Edge, 1.7.1248.

I added the tag reader (is same as be-next I believe) as a generic device, Vera recognized it immediately as a keypad. Once it is recognized, have some patience (a general good advice for adding stuff), as soon as Vera has found the device, it will start adding functionality to it. It took a few minutes before all options became available.

Go to devices,
then select keypad,
select Pin codes,
click add badge. (You can also select "add pin code" btw)

The system will now tell you to give the "to be added" badge a name, push the home or away button and to put the new badge in front of it.
Immediately after this, the new badge nr will be added, and the system is updated.
Make sure you name your badge correctly from the start. You cannot modify it afterwards, except for deleting it and adding it again.

For me the setup is straight forward and done in a breeze.

Since the tags can be named, you know who is entering the house or leaving. You can ask the system to send an email for this etc.

Let me know if it works for you?

Eric

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Re: Zipato Miny Keypad/RFiD
« Reply #41 on: July 17, 2015, 03:43:35 am »
I have the latest firmware of UI7 with the Vera Edge, 1.7.1248.

I added the tag reader (is same as be-next I believe) as a generic device, Vera recognized it immediately as a keypad. Once it is recognized, have some patience (a general good advice for adding stuff), as soon as Vera has found the device, it will start adding functionality to it. It took a few minutes before all options became available.

Go to devices,
then select keypad,
select Pin codes,
click add badge. (You can also select "add pin code" btw)

The system will now tell you to give the "to be added" badge a name, push the home or away button and to put the new badge in front of it.
Immediately after this, the new badge nr will be added, and the system is updated.
Make sure you name your badge correctly from the start. You cannot modify it afterwards, except for deleting it and adding it again.

For me the setup is straight forward and done in a breeze.

Since the tags can be named, you know who is entering the house or leaving. You can ask the system to send an email for this etc.

Let me know if it works for you?

Eric

Hi Eric,

Your response is highly appreciated, so based on your findings I've ordered the Zipato wt-rfid.eu keypad version.

The BeNext version looks similar but is apparently not the same version as the Zipato version, since it shows up as a door lock, and having it as a doorlock means certain functions can not be used like detecting home/away mode etc. And trust me I did hours, and hours of research on the BeNext model but without any success. I've tried contacting Vera support, after 2 days they came back with a answer not related to my question.. I've asked if they could use the same device template on the BeNext model which they use for the Zipato version...

So for others reading this:
The BeNext keypad looks similar as the Zipato one, but once installed you will notice the following behaviour;
- Installed as a Key Lock
- Home/Away mode not usable in scenes, since the modes are not recognized by Vera
- Only on Tag can be added, and this will occupy position 1 of the 10 pincodes you can set.
- For this version it was needed to install the PlugIn TagReader

@Eric: One more question, did you also needed to install the Plugin TagReader for the Zipato version to program the various FOBS? I'll let you know how it works with the Zipato version.

Regards,
Pierre

Using: VeraEdge UI7, Version 1.7.1248

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Re: Zipato Miny Keypad/RFiD
« Reply #42 on: July 17, 2015, 08:45:56 am »
Hey Pierre,

No, only installed it using the add generic device.....

let me know if all woks?

Eric

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Re: Zipato Miny Keypad/RFiD
« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2015, 11:59:17 am »
Hi Eric !

Thank you very much for the detailed installation, since you have UI7 and a working zipato keypad, can you give us the firmware version of the device ?
I also have the zipato keypad, under UI7 on a vera3 and its is not working as expected, still the same as UI5, so added as a doorlock with only one tag that can be added...

Also under the add device menu, you can find the keypad, no need to use general device, when I tried it several times mine was detected with another id as the one that was expected by the vera..

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Re: Zipato Miny Keypad/RFiD
« Reply #44 on: July 23, 2015, 02:03:24 pm »
He Eric,

Today the zipato keypad came in, hooked it up and it is working. You were right the vera reconized this directly as a keypad with the capability of using multiple tags also the scenes home and away are working. So even that the benext version is looking 100% similar there is a difference. Thanks again for your feedback.

For other forum members the benext keypad isn't working correctly since it is reconized as a doorlock the zipato one is reconized correctly and gives you all the options. I've bought the zipato eu version at Amazon.fr

Best regards

Pierre

Hey Pierre,

No, only installed it using the add generic device.....

let me know if all woks?

Eric