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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2015, 07:16:38 pm »
My intention was not to say negative things about the product... My opinion is based on my use cases and value proposition I see for me. The product may work great for others at a $100-120 price point. I just don't think it is going to for most when the alternative device is a $30 Kickstarter. Even if it doubled in price, it is still far less expensive.
I suspect it will be & $50-60 retail with zigbee or zwave built in.

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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2016, 03:27:38 pm »
I think Aaron is correct that past a certain price point you are better off investing that money in factory motorized window coverings since you'll typically get 5 year warranty on the electronics and 10 years on the fabric (for roller shades).

I think it is wise to be skeptical of any device that promises too much, especially crowd-funded devices.  Also be aware that retro-fit devices like these are for very small windows (unless you want the lightest, sheerest fabric possible for no privacy or light control as seen in the YouTube video).  Also you never get to hear how loud they are, or how smoothly they run, or how slow they are.

Motorized window coverings aren't "easy" to get them done right.  All of the major tubular motor suppliers like Somfy aren't worried about devices like this, and even used to sell something very similar to drive a drapery cord before motorized tracks and motors were created (a better way than add-a-motor).  These types of solutions could be a great retro-fit device and might be good for small window shades, but in the Western U.S. windows are large and people want them covered in one large shade, so maybe elsewhere it might work.  But it has to be the right price.
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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2016, 09:47:55 am »
So now with Bluetooth connectivity, I wonder if we could use these:
http://www.mysmartblinds.com/buy/product/retro-fit-kit.php

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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2016, 02:58:22 pm »
I have been on the wait list for one of these, and it just shipped.  I don't need the blind in question to interact with my home automation system.  I just needed a set schedule and manual override (not in my media room), so this was perfect for my needs even without Vera integration.  I will let folks know how my experience goes getting it setup.  I do have a VeraPlus, but my guess is that it it is not just going to connect and work, but I am happy to give it a try.

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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2016, 03:22:32 pm »
Let us know how it goes, I think of the 3 or 4 products linked in this thread from 5 months ago not one is for sale to the public or ready yet.  I like to see good products but when they still a concept of being in stores a year from now. its a turn off.

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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #35 on: March 01, 2016, 01:18:11 pm »
This company is trying again for anyone interested:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iblinds/iblinds-make-your-existing-blinds-intelligent

The ship date is a ways away still, but their price seems worth a try for 1 or 2.  They say they've tried it with Vera too

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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #36 on: March 01, 2016, 01:42:54 pm »
Still looking forward to the Move which started this thread. Will be interested to see if the bluetooth works with the plus.
Delayed due to damaged mould but due soon (in the global view of things).
So far it's the only thing which might work with existing roman blinds.
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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2016, 05:30:22 pm »
This company is trying again for anyone interested:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iblinds/iblinds-make-your-existing-blinds-intelligent

The ship date is a ways away still, but their price seems worth a try for 1 or 2.  They say they've tried it with Vera too

I'm done with Kickstarter... most tech related effort look like they completely fail or deliver 6-12 months late and with far less features than they advertise at the start.  I'd rather buy a completed product for a few $ more vs give people free money to experiment with zero checks/balances in place.

If this device is good then the developers should spend their own money (or go get a loan) to develop it and sell a finished product... but I suspect they are simply looking for people to cover the R&D in hopes it works out... just like most Kickstarters. I'm not giving away any more money, or time.

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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2016, 09:15:23 pm »
Latest update on the Move:

So as you all probably know there were an accident with two molds and we are waiting for these to be rebuilt and it?s still the same timeframe for us receiving them (week number 13-15). As soon as we receive them the work on make the actual parts will begin and then we can start assembling finished units.

For everyone interested in the electronic parts of MOVE we can tell you that we are still working with the documentation and we will release it at our website as soon as we are finished. But one thing that we like to highlight already is that MOVE is built with two MCU inside. One is a ATtiny48 that controls all core functions, making MOVE able to function all by itself with only the buttons as controls. The other MCU is CSR1010 that almost only is used as a radio chip. We decided upon this approach in order to not be tide up with only one radio technology. The wire control through the USB port will talk directly with the ATtiny48 MCU.

To everyone that thinks a Z-wave version of MOVE is preferred, we like to inform you that we are looking for a Z-wave partner to team up with in order to make a Z-wave version a reality. We think it?s a much better approach finding a partner than doing it ourselves. Because we have dual MCUs and core functions that would not be affected if the radio chip is changed we think and hope that we will find a partner interested in cooperation.

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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2016, 06:33:47 pm »
Marc has said that if we want the MOVE adding to the list of bluetotth devices we want adding to Vera Plus we need to let them know how popular it would be (priorities).
If you would buy and use it let it be known!

Let this be vote number 1
I would use at least 4 of them
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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #40 on: March 16, 2016, 05:59:09 am »

Marc has said that if we want the MOVE adding to the list of bluetotth devices we want adding to Vera Plus we need to let them know how popular it would be (priorities).
If you would buy and use it let it be known!

Let this be vote number 1
I would use at least 4 of them

At the price they list on Kickstarter, if sold at that price, I would use at least 3 of them if they worked with Vera


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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #41 on: March 16, 2016, 10:49:06 am »
I'd be in for 6 to 12 if the price holds with Z-wave.

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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #42 on: March 16, 2016, 12:02:40 pm »
I am in on this and would pay a bit more even for a zwave version...
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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #43 on: March 16, 2016, 12:06:26 pm »
I'd be in for 6 to 12 if the price holds with Z-wave.
They have already said that z-wave will cost more but I am not sure how much.
The bluetooth version will be available first and I will give it a try if Vera can squeeze it in.
The bluetooth version also forms its own net which might be usefull for other bluetooth devices later.
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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2016, 04:49:34 pm »
I'd go for 2 z-wave enabled Move's initially.