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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #75 on: December 21, 2016, 12:34:53 am »
Move Bluetooth, does not integrate with Vera.  Since all I needed was a basic schedule, and I had such a good experience with MySmartBlinds (also Bluetooth with no integration with Vera), thought I would give the Move a shot.  I have been pretty underwhelmed thus far.  They are trying hard, but clearly getting overwhelmed with complaints, and seem inexperienced with how to handle the shipping etc.  and their app is badly in need of an update.  We will see if they can recover.  There is potential there, but they definitely have an up hill battle.

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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #76 on: December 21, 2016, 08:12:49 am »
Have you added a request to have he bluetooth move added to Vera. Everyone with one of these should put in a request and it 'might' happen.

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« Reply #77 on: December 21, 2016, 08:15:13 am »
Sorry for repeating. Thought I had messed up first time.

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« Reply #78 on: December 21, 2016, 09:51:23 am »
Well, this is good only in that I held off buying their stuff.  But once the zwave comes out, I think I might go for it.

I've got blinds that have one loop for tilting and one for raising/lowering so I might just go with tilting.

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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #79 on: December 21, 2016, 01:26:50 pm »
Thanks @shallowearth for the informative review. Everything else I have read so far has been a bit to good to be true. What about the noise? Does it make any noise? I hope the quality of the MoveZ is a bit better then you describe since I'm waiting for four units.
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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #80 on: December 21, 2016, 02:53:35 pm »
They are a bit noisy, but I haven't tried them on slow speed yet.  The MySmartBlind is essentially silent on slow speed, so if you are looking for tilt only you might want to look at that.  More expensive but much higher quality.  My move is behind some drapes that muffles them pretty well.  If you have a beaded cord, they tend to click, but they have a fix for that (you can clip the groves in the spool to reduce clicking, and they are working on a new design).

I doubt the Zwave will be much different, they designed the radio to be modular, so all they will be doing is taking the parts they already have and assembling them with a different radio modual.  May they will switch to metal spools, only the cord loop spool is metal currently, the pull cord and beaded cord are plastic.

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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #81 on: January 04, 2017, 11:24:29 am »
Thanks for all the info... I ordered a set of zwave versions myself. Being also in the PNW, I am now doubtful it will work for me without giving it AC power...
127 zwave nodes, 8 zigbee nodes, 256 devices, 17 apps, 128 scenes on a Vera Plus linked with Echo and HomeKit through bridges

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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #82 on: January 04, 2017, 12:57:11 pm »
They did just update the iphone app so things are moving slowly, so am going to play arround with it a little more, it now, still no schedules support, but it now shows the battery power level, so I can see if that tiny solar panel is going to do anything to keep the batteries charge.  I am still having a little slippage that is throwing off the calibration so probably need to put a little more tension on the loop, or I was thinking of putting some rubber bands around the metal spool to give it a little more grip since my cord material is pretty slick.  The slow speed is now called "silent" mode in the app or something like that, so will also have to try that out to see if it is more quite.
When I have some additional time to play around with it, I will post it here.

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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #83 on: January 05, 2017, 01:26:19 am »
Shallow, can you let us know and attempt if the move is possible to integrate with Tasker? That's really the only saving grace for me.

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« Reply #84 on: January 05, 2017, 02:52:22 am »
Unfortunately I don't have any android devices only iOS and a few Windows phones, but you should be able to install the app and see if the add device stuff is automatable. just search for Move by Teptron in the store.

The blinds I am automating are at the front of the house in a room I hardly use but are visible from the front door so was just looking for basic up/down on a schedule  for day and night which is why I didn't care if they worked with Vera or not.  If these were say in my media room, where controlling the lighting was important, or even in my bedroom, they would drive me nuts, too noisy, slow.  Plan to get a good automated curtain system for the media room.

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« Reply #85 on: January 05, 2017, 10:42:40 am »
Thanks for the reply!

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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #86 on: January 05, 2017, 11:40:30 am »
Unfortunately I don't have any android devices only iOS and a few Windows phones, but you should be able to install the app and see if the add device stuff is automatable. just search for Move by Teptron in the store.

The blinds I am automating are at the front of the house in a room I hardly use but are visible from the front door so was just looking for basic up/down on a schedule  for day and night which is why I didn't care if they worked with Vera or not.  If these were say in my media room, where controlling the lighting was important, or even in my bedroom, they would drive me nuts, too noisy, slow.  Plan to get a good automated curtain system for the media room.

Shallow, you mentioned a schedule for day and night, but a previous post says they haven't got it worked out yet. So is there any function you can do other than open the APP and click up and down? Is there really no scheduled way to open and close the blinds when you want it, at this present time?


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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #87 on: January 05, 2017, 04:48:41 pm »
Correct, at this time the MOVE app, can only add your Move, define what type of blind it is (up/down,left/right, or tilt), calibrate open/closed.  And then open, close or partially open/close your blinds, and now you can see the battery level with the latest update.

Currently grouping and scheduling in the app is grayed out.  So basically the app does nothing but calibrate your blinds (which you can also do manually with the buttons on the device), and then you can open and close the blind with the app (or button on the device).  Yep... that is it.  No scheduling, no automation, nothing.  Hopefully at least basic scheduling and grouping get added soon.  Sheesh.  This is why I haven't bothered to install more than the one device, just to test it out because it is only slightly more convenient then just opening them manually, actually I take that back, since you can't even group blinds together (some of my winds have 2-3 blinds a piece) it is probably less convenient then opening the manually since I can do that much faster and more accurately than this device.  :-)

At least they did an app update, that tells me they are still alive and doing work, maybe grouping and basic scheduling will come next (fingers crossed)


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« Reply #88 on: January 05, 2017, 04:53:45 pm »
That's nuts! Thanks for the reply again!

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Re: Found this on Kickstarter
« Reply #89 on: January 11, 2017, 03:32:50 pm »
Well the good news is that with a z-wave one you aren't going to need an app, so there is that.  The battery monitoring also seems to be working so I can figure out if the solar is really going to work or not.

I did a few things with my move... I put some rubber bands around the spool to make it a little more grippy, I slowed down the close speed (which was where the slipping seemed to be happening), and a put a little more tension on the cord loop (I used one of those Velcro command strips to mount mine which I highly suggest... lets you easily adjust the tension on the loop).

So the good news is that the calibration now seems to be working which means I eliminated the slippage.  I haven't put the motor to the slowest setting to see how quiet they get and how battery usage works, so need to play around with that. 

But at least I now have something that functions to open and close and stays calibrated.  Good first step, and I can now try opening and closing once a day to see if the battery + solar is going to work to keep it charged.

Still waiting on them to add schedules to the app... ugg.  But I am feeling a little more positive that I at least have something that now opens and closes properly.