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Offline Ap15e

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Lessons learned while implementing DAD
« on: March 24, 2011, 09:46:48 am »
Lessons learned while implementing DAD:

  • There is a severe lack of documentation (for users and for developers).
  • Due to the lack of documentation the implementer has to make assumptions about the API, which must be verified by the implementer (kind of reverse engineering).
  • The Luup Lua extensions are incomplete.
  • An IDE for MiOS is missing.
  • A Vera emulator is missing, required for rapid development (there is an outdated LuaUPnP version for Windows ...).
  • Having to embed Lua into XML is a major annoyance.

For those that are interested in details and tools used:


Tools used:

Windows version of LuaUPnP:

Bugs and missing features I stumbled upon while implementing DAD:

Please don't ge me wrong:
MCV (especially mcvflorin) and the community (futzle and oTi@, to name just a few) were very helpful in sorting out the issues I stumbled upon, but these shortcomings make the development of more complex plugins for MiOS very tedious. If you take into account that the market for MiOS plugins is very limited, be prepared to pay a high price for commercial MiOS plugins (if the plugins you're looking for will ever be available ...).
« Last Edit: May 10, 2011, 04:45:19 pm by Ap15e »

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Re: Lessons learned while implementing DAD
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2011, 09:50:19 am »
Nice retrospective review. Thanks!
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Re: Lessons learned while implementing DAD
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2011, 01:07:39 pm »
Thank you for all the code you have written and all the assistance you have handed out.  MIOS, MCV and the rest of us know that this place wouldn't be half as successful without contributions from folks like you!
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Re: Lessons learned while implementing DAD
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2011, 07:38:09 pm »

Thank you so much for all of your hard work and programming on this out of the ordinary but very cool plugin/device.  It is definitely programmers and ppl like you that can make a real positive difference in MCV's Vera product.  It's awesome (it's a good thing in the fact that now these issues can be addressed and resolved) that you were able to uncover some issues with Vera along the way.  Hopefully, MCV takes note of what you have discovered and then resolves and/or improves upon the things that you mentioned and informed them of.

and thank you too futzle and oTi@ for assisting and helping Ap15e along the way.   All of your efforts are really appreciated!!!
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Re: Lessons learned while implementing DAD
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2011, 05:25:40 pm »


I used to work in Eclipse ecosystem for years, and developing for MiOS makes me feel I'm back in 1990s dealing with Mainframe weirdness.
Some of the biggest developer's annoyances in MiOS isn't that hard to resolve for MCV guys, including emulators (there are tons of mockup frameworks available out there)